Beckett Ruins Everything - Star Trek Lower Decks 1x07

[@pendrake40]

Some context/explanation for those who have not seen episode *[LD 1x07 - "Much Ado About Boimler"]* in its entirety, &/or may not understand why Mariner is acting uncharacteristically incompetent with this video/scene... *;)* 1. *_Ramsey's 'angle'_** ~* Captain Amina Ramsey (Toks Olagundoye) _purposefully_ took-up the dull assignment of "babysitting" the USS Cerritos, with the ulterior motive to poach Mariner over to the USS Oakland and make Mariner her XO (Executive Officer) there. However, Ramsey did this with *_GOOD_* intentions, stemming from their close Friendship. From Ramsey's perspective, she could not understand Mariner's inexplicable loss of career-drive and -ambition after earning top-marks at Starfleet Academy, as well as helping Ramsey and many others of their class excel; something which led to Ramsey's own Captaincy. Simply put, Ramsey was trying to help her friend Mariner, *_"get back on track"._* 2. *_Mariner's (counter-)'angle'_** ~* However, Ensign Beckett Mariner (Tawny Newsome) *_KNOWS_* of Ramsey's ulterior motive (or more accurately, figures it out very early-on) of Ramsey trying to set-up Mariner to become XO of the USS Oakland (a job that Mariner does not want); but also knows it is earnestly well-intentioned. So Mariner is deliberately acting uncharacteristically incompetent ("taking a dive") as a counter-effort against Ramsey's agenda. Mariner knows that *_>Captain

[@Stingra87]

@@EdibleNonsense Or accidentally get HIM promoted due to him looking HYPER competent (he's just awkward, like Barclay was) next to her, which she doesn't want either (right now, at least).

[@pendrake40]

@@Stingra87 *& @EdibleNonsense ~* Or, a possible episode plot would be that Boimler gets promoted because of: - a.) *Circumstance(s) ~* _["Something"]_ occurs and Boimler is simply in the right place, at the right time, and with a very large dose of sheer dumb luck. - b.) *Hidden Agenda ~* Captain Freeman (mom) &/or Admiral Mariner(?) (dad) promote Boimler, in an attempt to force Mariner to seek an promotion as well, in order to keep-up and continue to be Boimler's Mentor. Or some other ['Antagonist Character'] has Boimler promoted for some Hidden Agenda &/or Ulterior Motive. The counter-plot would be that Mariner knows Boimler is *NOT* yet ready to be an Officer; however, _not_ because of incompetence or even personal fondness, but rather Boimler lacking the maturity/wisdom, and the field-experience, to be a *'good'* Officer on his desired path to the Captain's Chair. The drama would be that Boimler misunderstands Mariner's well-meaning intentions and is resentful of her as a result. Likewise, the (premature) promotion quickly goes to Boimler's head, leading to Boimler acting like a jackass among his friends and all other Lower Decks crew; which, of course, reinforces Mariner's point/belief that Boimler is not yet ready for Officer-ship (-hood?).

[@TommyRayzer]

Well this makes her even worse then. So she is acting incompetent on purpose. She really doesn't have any reason to.

[@pendrake40]

@@TommyRayzer ~ As said in my initial Comment, Mariner _does not want_ to be the USS Oakland XO. However, this is complicated by two hindering factors preventing Mariner making an outright rejection to Ramsey... - a.) Mariner is trying to spare her friend Ramsey of any hurt &/or resentful feelings between the two close friends. Mariner would rather have Ramsey think Mariner a 'klutz' (but still a friend) than an ingrate (friendship broken). - b.) Mariner is also afraid she may not be able to refuse Ramsey (due to their close Friendship) if a direct offer (rather than Ramsey's manipulative method) is made; which would put Mariner in an unhappy and resentful position _("If I were rank-up for anyone, it would be for you.")._ So Mariner is trying to avoid such a confrontation.

[@Cell287]

Still feels like a rom com

[@NLaertes]

Jennifer Hale is a Vulcan...thats a nice sidestep from Mass Effect

[@yoshidinono8095]

who?

[@powerist209]

She voiced female Commander Shepherd.

[@johnstewart7362]

And Samus Aran.

[@DarthSpock1]

I recognize that name. Didn't she voice Bastila Shan too?

[@Tolandstife]

And Female Trooper in SWTOR

[@DocWolph]

"Mariner, stop being such a butthead and you will actually be good at the job."

[@Stingra87]

I'd like to point out that those aliens are based on the Axolotl, a pale amphibian that has extended gills to breath while in the water. It is also very endangered, with most of the species being located in and around Mexico City, which is a heavily populated and heavily polluted city. Axolotl are extremely sensitive about changes to their habitat, so all the water traffic and pollution has led to a mass die-off and there's conservation efforts going on to purify select areas so the population might have a chance to rebound. So yeah just wanted to point out the similarities between IRL stuff and what Mariner and the rest of the Away Team were doing on that bog planet.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Nice to see a Vulcan acting like a Vulcan 4 once instead of packed with emotions like an overflowing sardine can.

[@silentdrew7636]

Heaven forbid Vulcans be true to themselves and try to gain some maturity regarding their emotions.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

@@silentdrew7636 A true Vulcan purged all emotions away.

[@silentdrew7636]

@@TheMrPeteChannel that's just a mask that they wear because they're indoctrinated into a religion that says that emotions are evil. The healthiest and most mature Vulcans are generally the ones who open their eyes and start allowing themselves to deal with their emotions in a more healthy and mature way.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

@@silentdrew7636 Dude...they got that ceremonial ritual thing shown in ST TMP. It's an emotional purge. Basically you become a robot if successful & think nothing but pure logic.

[@silentdrew7636]

@@TheMrPeteChannel you mean the one that Spock abandoned because he realized his connection to his friends was more important? The one that served as the turning point for Spock to grow into a more mature character?

[@sanyahikari7072]

0:46 Optimus Prime is not happy.

[@jordangan3246]

In any other circumstance, I would consider this unfair and mean spirited, but with Mariner, this felt incredibly satisfying to watch.

[@cobracorporal6738]

Indeed it did

[@multismashify]

So was your enjoyment of it deflated at all when they revealed she was faking being incompetent at the end of the episode?

[@jordangan3246]

Willowville Yeah. If anything, it made me hate her even more.

[@multismashify]

@@jordangan3246 Sorry to hear that.

[@jordangan3246]

Willowville Thanks. Lower Decks started off on a bad note and I thought it would take a while to get its footing. But nope. As the episodes are rolled out, it’s actually gotten even worse. The thing is, even though it’s a Rick and Morty clone, Rick Sanchez is one of the best written characters when it comes to Adult Animation. Rick and Morty was a parody of Back to the Future but behind the humour, it was a lot deeper than people expected when it came to the characters and situations. Lower Decks felt like there was nothing underneath that surface of terrible comedy and emasculation (Hope Boimler’s luck improves) and this episode felt like it was about to breach that surface and show how Mariner’s behaviour and personality is actually harmful to everyone and not just Boimler. But nope. It turns out that she was faking it all along, thus making her character even more unlikeable. Now, I not only want her off the ship, I want her out of FRICKING STARFLEET FOR GOOD.

[@richardjohnson9543]

I wonder if Professor Rubichik could be a reference to actor Saul Rubinek from TNG's "The Most Toys "?

[@spencerkoelle184]

It is.

[@angerymechanic661]

Oh thats an ninja punch to da face. Leaving behind critical mission equipment.

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

Very fitting to have Jennifer Hale playing a Commander.

[@kahlrhoam6769]

Kind of like (now) Acting Captain Burnham? LoL. 🖖✨

[@retched]

Is that.... Birdgirl?!

[@SpamSide_B]

At the end of the episode, it turns out she was faking being inept.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

When you almost kill the away team with a sewage explsion, it stops being fake.

[@multismashify]

@@schwarzerritter5724 Does it?

[@Stingra87]

@@schwarzerritter5724 I highly doubt that it would have been fatal. If there was a risk of death, Mariner wouldn't have left the tricorders and wouldn't have done the 'durr I'm stupid' act. Mariner is an EXCELLENT Starfleet officer as this episode proves at the end, and is apparent in pretty much every episode. If there was a danger of her or the team getting hurt, she would have sucked it up and done her job the right way because that is what she is trained to do.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Stingra87 There is a distinct possibility an exploding pressure tank will kill someone standing next to it. Of course Mariner would have brought the tricorders had she known they would need them to prevent a disaster, but that means it was a pretty inept thing to deliberately leave a vital piece of equipment on the ship.

[@Stingra87]

@@schwarzerritter5724 It was deliberately inept because she KNEW that if anything went wrong, nothing bad was going to happen. She was purposefully being terrible because she didn't want the promotion.

[@curious5887]

Mariner is similar to me, because i’m also incompetent guy

[@davidreynolds8865]

except Mariner is actually almost hyper competent, she simply doesn't want to be promoted.

[@dac314]

You can see the bag with a Tricorder sitting next to it in frame right before they transition to the planet surface. Incredible attention to detail, UNLIKE SOME SHOWS *glares at Star Trek Voyager*

[@alphanerd7221]

What are you whining about?

[@dac314]

@@alphanerd7221 you got a final tally on how many photon torpedoes they had when they arrived in the Delta Quadrant?

[@alphanerd7221]

@@dac314 What is the nature of your complaint?

[@pearsegallagher9832]

i kinda head canon ramsey and durga are together

[@johnam1234]

I really enjoy the video and hope the show last many years

[@shaftoe195]

Oh boy, I love seeing all these people hating Mariner in the comments. Lol.

[@davidreynolds8865]

Well its not hard, she is an unlikable mess. She actively sabotaged Boimlers career, played with is feelings, and got pissy about him getting the promotion at the end of season 1.

[@jetison333]

@@davidreynolds8865 she wasn't mad that boumler taking the promotion, she was mad that he took the promotion without telling and her and then leaving without saying goodbye. He completely ghosted her.

[@curious5887]

If Beckett had been a bit more focused, she will not ruin everything sadly she did ruined everything 🤣

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

Nah she did it on purpose

[@4eversquidsisters266]

Axolotl humanoid!

[@thomashill6347]

She did make herself look bad GOOD THING WE KNOW BETTER. and she shows that when the water is raising she is up for the task.

[@FurryEskimo]

I know a lot of this series is about how Star Fleet can be too uptight, but she actually should feel bad for a lot of what she does,, she’s genuinely juvenile, not misunderstood.

[@Supermegamanuel01]

She's not even juvenile she was on DS9 during the dominion war she just refuses to grow up

[@spencerkoelle184]

She's flawed but I still love her.

[@gumpreeengthegumpreeeng]

axolotl creature, hehe

[@Southern_Crusader]

Turns out those seeds if handled incorrectly go up like pure Francium exposed to water. *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*

[@PaRadaRada]

So how big of a boom we talking here nuclear boom or blow up a Death Star boom?

[@simpsonfan13]

I like mudkipz planet.

[@natekarpowicz7564]

0:14 Its called Suus Mahna.

[@kayseek1248]

Is she the original Sam voice actor from Subnautica?

[@fulcrum2951]

Huh, Commander Shepard a Vulcan

[@sageisbored]

Is that purple guy supposed to be a Naussican?

[@Lukos0036]

Rigellian it looks like.

[@sageisbored]

@@Lukos0036 ohh good call you're totally right

[@nickmalachai2227]

(reads title) same.

[@CS-bu7lo]

"Last week, I put a scorpion in Ransom's bed... it was bad... he almost died"-- Mariner, laughing 🤦🏼‍♀️🤨. This was a few episodes after she had promised him to "dance in his blood "😁, after he had sent her to the brig, on the pretext that her sleeves were rolled up and she had disobeyed his orders (instead of kissing her like she wanted and expected)😁. Er, Mariner, that is more than a bad joke, that is attempted murder, punished by prison time. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤨 Anyway, he never reported or punished her for that, despite still not knowing who her parents are, so he's either too forgiving or he has feelings for her... I'm beginning to feel sorry for him. I hope she only joked around to scare cpt Ramsey 's team, but I have a feeling she was telling the truth. Really, a scorpion in his bed? What is this, revenge or klingon courtship, lol ?! I would have put scratching powder on his weights or something like that, unpleasant and a good vengence, but not dangerous or criminal 😁. Mariner (and Ransom) need a lot of therapy with a competent psychiatrist, dr.Meeglemo is not enough, I think. A, and Mariner pretending to be incompetent to refuse her friend politely?! Really dumb and hurtfull for cpt Ramsey & her competent team. She should have mustered up the courage to tell her friend the truth about her not wanting to rank up yet, instead of making a fool of herself and sabotaging the team's mission. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I like Mariner, I used to be similar to her many years ago (well, I wasn't that unhinged), but sometimes she becomes unbearable...

[@cobeoe]

I am not surprised she may know protocols And junk But when the situation calls for her to be a regular star fleet officer she can't really do much

[@multismashify]

She's behaving in incompetent fashion deliberately to avoid being offered a higher rank position on another ship. This is revealed at the end of the episode.

[@cobeoe]

@@multismashify I know But Her actions are still way too recklessShe admires captain Kirk and picard and stuff but if she served under them for real Her actions would not be tolerated on there ships

[@multismashify]

@@cobeoe Her actions may be on the more reckless side, and it's not as though they never result in problems. That being said, when an actual problem arises she's proven herself highly capable in taking steps to solve said problem. She mentions that she often break rules that get in the way of her taking care of things, and while not always perfect, this seems to be a motivation behind a lot of her actions. As for admiring Kirk and Picard...did she say she admires them? I don't remember that. I remember her mentioning Kirk when she was in the situation where she was surrounded by enemy spears, but not that she admired him. And I don't recall her ever mentioning Picard.

[@Stingra87]

And yet at the end of the episode (and most episodes where there is a risk of loss of life) Mariner has shown to be EXTREMELY competent as a Starfleet officer. She is able to take command in a crisis situation and figure out a solution to the problem just as quickly and efficiently as any of the 'hero' characters in the other shows. She's purposefully taking a dive here because she doesn't want the promotion, and the reason that she's not been fired from Starfleet is because he DAD is an ADMIRAL, which in Star Trek is the equivalent of a senator and thus she's most likely protected by him and his position. Really, you and others are just really reaching for ways to more or less say 'Mariner sucks, get rid of her'.

[@goliathprojects7354]

Mariner is definitely a Mary Sue. See how everyone is loving her? She is such an idol!

[@Cell287]

I wouldn’t say Mary Sue, badly written maybe. Rey is a Mary Sue. This is trying to hard to be funny.

[@repulser93]

@@Cell287 Neither of them are. You want to see an actual Mary Sue, look at Alice from Resident Evil in or Kirito from SAO.

[@Nobleheart111]

Seeing how she was deliberately making herself look incompetent to ensure she would go back to the Cerritos, yeah. She is even able to fool the entire ship into thinking she is a screw up.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@Cell287 I do believe that was sarcasm on OPs part ribbing people who accuse Mariner of being a Mary Sue.

[@denvermiller5091]

People do love to throw the label around without actually understanding it's full meaning...

[@709mash]

I find mariner pretty annoying.

[@vintagedot8350]

Kinda feels like the point, she keeps acting brashly and and selfishly and while some of the people around her seem to be used to it we the viewer see all angles of her and don't like it. I imagine she'll get a lot of development especially after her Vindicta adventure

[@evilcrash8683]

No surprise she ruins everything.

[@Stingra87]

She did it on purpose because she was trying to avoid getting promoted, which is something she absolutely does NOT want. She's clearly more than capable of being an excellent Starfleet officer (as you can see in previous episodes AND in this episode specifically), she just CHOSE to take a fall here so she could remain on the Cerritos and as an Ensign.

[@ghuff31]

@@Stingra87 let it go. Fixing short sighted/stupid comments is not the hill you want to die on. All the smart people understand. let that be enough. :-)

[@Cell287]

Stingra87 I see it as a boring Romcom set up. I rarely like romantic comedies. No logic or good set up. It’s just boring. I’ve seen these jokes so many times. Clone wars had better jokes and story

[@danic_c]

@@Cell287 I really don't think you can call Lower Decks a romantic comedy. Of all the four main characters, only one has been on a relationship that has lasted more than an episode, and that wasn't until season 3. I agree that Clone Wars at its best is much better than Lower Decks, but on average, I'd say they're both pretty comparable in the quality of their writing. Lower Decks is an animated adult comedy, Clone Wars is an action Saturday morning cartoon, yet they both manage to be so much more, and they both embody the best of their respective sci-fi franchises.

[@F40PH-2CAT]

She's terrible.

[@danic_c]

Nah, she's a great character.

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

The black chick is like the type to just call everyone the n word for a laugh. And will prank everyone owen hart style

[@michaeldiekmann6494]

Is this garbage canon?

[@sebsignat8286]

Very canon

[@silentdrew7636]

@@sebsignat8286 and quite good at that.

[@RDR911]

Yep. Star Trek is officially producing children's shows, now. It's sad.

[@sebsignat8286]

@@RDR911 with a franchise this old; they need to branch out

[@silentdrew7636]

@@RDR911 I've heard the upcoming kids show looks good. Thankfully most of the recent stuff has been good, so no real reason to worry