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@herotrojan16452 жыл бұрын
hi John.. for intermediate which one would you suggest htb or tryhackme? thanks for your great video!
@razdingz2 жыл бұрын
yo super vid, nice to see you think about us low iq people who have no money
@brandonfarley5297 Жыл бұрын
First off, you got into try hack me, so thank you. The Jr. pen tester module, is the try hack me equivalent?
@JuanBotes11 ай бұрын
hi thanks again for making great content, this gave me good insight and I successfully passed the CPTS exam end of 2023. \o/
@YondeCode2 жыл бұрын
I started IT 9 months ago and I completed like 30 modules, some took me so much time but I love this course !
@abg24872 жыл бұрын
Which course ? Give link
@jorge12325512 жыл бұрын
I’ve been 12 months still going
@abg24872 жыл бұрын
@@jorge1232551 which course??
@jorge12325512 жыл бұрын
@@abg2487 pentester Jr course on academy hack the box, just finishing up with foot printing. Life gets in the way :) but pushing through it, I heard password attacks is very long too.
@abg24872 жыл бұрын
@@jorge1232551 is it free??
@anonyghost74222 жыл бұрын
Good to see it wont cost an arm and a leg. Plus having hands on labs definitely makes this cert interesting. Only time will tell if this cert is worth it but I think it has its place in the industry. Great video Mr. Hammond!
@prodge64 Жыл бұрын
I had heard about CPTS when HTB released it, but It wasn't until now that I realized that it's possible to earn this cert in as little as 41 days! I know, I know, we're all on our own individual paths in life, but if they're confident in their numbers then I'll be damned if I don't do my best to be there at the end of march with my first ever cert. Thank you John, you're an awesome contributor to the community!
@thebxsavageАй бұрын
How’d it go?!
@TheHangman19952 жыл бұрын
Crazy that this costs like 1/3rd of the price of OSCP and looks like it might be a better exam and contain superior materials. I might have to take this exam for funsies to see how it compares to the OSCP/eCPPT. It really does looks like the best value since INE took over eLearn and blasted their prices through the roof.
@sgtkeebler2 жыл бұрын
I have started the course! So far it is really good, and unlike OSCP it won’t completely bankrupt me. I am on the student plan which is $8 USD. I am doing the CPTS for purple team training. I just completed the Blue Team Level 1 exam, and now I am working on CPTS and Elearn Security certified threat hunter
@zaccampa40552 жыл бұрын
I have been working my way through it as well. It’s pretty tough!
@bilalahmad9638 Жыл бұрын
How much time it took to complete blue team L1 ?
@sgtkeebler Жыл бұрын
@@bilalahmad9638 I like to take my time, you get 6 months access and I took 5 months of non-stop learning, and took the cert on the 6th month. If you decide to take it, make sure you know Splunk and how to run searches. IMO everything else like using autopsy, wireshark, and other investigative tools is easy, but Splunk was the hardest because it is like picking up a new programming language.
@setsura7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I am going to go thru the course material and work on this exam first, then get OSCP, this is a 1 stone to birds path.
@F0rc3Tv2 жыл бұрын
i won the hackthebox 25 years celebration giveaway and won a silver anual voucher which makes that i get the rest of the modules i havent done and a free exam voucher so im super excited and nervous
@hakitajs9669 Жыл бұрын
I am definitely interesting. Just to get money 1th.I've already started with the basics, I'm heroically conquering new points :).I'm really glad that there are people like you, to encourage, interest, and to teach people, to be masters together, and to be each other's great rivals, but never enemies :)
@claudiamanta19438 ай бұрын
Rivals not enemies- I like that 👏 I can be competitive especially that it sounds like excellent fun where everyone learns.
@hashaamiftekhar2 жыл бұрын
I would like you to take this CPTS Exam so that proper honest review can come up. Like literally, modules are really well organized and up-to-date, which meets the standards. looking forward to take this one. Just wrote it down on my list and aimed at it.
@ltnlabs2 жыл бұрын
Educational institutions should map their curriculum to HTB Academy and CPTS. The curriculum is phenomenal and the skills learners gain are job-ready for sure. Ill be working on mapping to it from the college Im at.
@Giperium3 ай бұрын
Excellent review of the exam, thank you very much!! You can answer one question by the exam, it may include a host that will require knowledge and skills of "buffer overflow", I know that OSCP excluded this from its exam, but HTB may have this.
@ThereWillBeCake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview man. Looking at starting this course this year.
@snazzycipher77122 жыл бұрын
As a mom and homemaker reentering the workplace, this cert sounds more realistic than the 24 hour, adult diaper wearing, wannabe military sniper, pentest certs.
@bjduncc2 жыл бұрын
lol
@old22352 жыл бұрын
Diaper wearing wanna military sniper 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@snazzycipher77122 жыл бұрын
@@old2235 Yep! My hubby told me stories of how Marine snipers can lay in the grass for days waiting for their targets. That they pretty much wear diapers or go on themselves- this is what I think 24+ hour exams seem to expect from first rate pentesters and IMO it's juvenile to judge how well a person can hack by how willing they are to endure a nasty infection. That's machismo, not talent.
@SparQz Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the price of the oscp, ec council etc are way higher than this one
@justinkassinger82388 ай бұрын
Yea but the problem is no company is going to care unless you have the OSCP. So yea it sucks, but it's necessary
@gurneyh2 жыл бұрын
I have a pretty good background in pentesting. I've done some professionally. I've worked on and off on the OSCP but time constrains were always an issue. While this cert doesn't currently have the prestige of the OSCP I'm wondering if it would be a good training ground for doing the OSCP. Thoughts?
@imranthoufeeque2 жыл бұрын
Hello John, If you take the CPTS exam i would request you to post the video about converting that report template to .md format.. You already showed it for OSCP using the pando but we need to find a way here as well.
@zakb.71088 ай бұрын
I am coming from Software development position as a Java developer and all I can tell is how interesting and worth the money that CPTS path is. Im through some modules and I am so happy to have tried it already.
@UnixBro6 ай бұрын
How good can it be for a software engineer ? I have similar background as you.
@Dalai33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the information you shared
@smartsalmon12 жыл бұрын
I hope this gets big on HR, I want to take this, and I probably will after OSCP, but it sucks that there are so many newer and better certs that just never count for anything with HR. It feels like a tradeoff of gaining skill vs gaining HR points. Not that OSCP is bad, but it's not what I'd choose these days to become a qualified entry-mid level pentester.
@TheNikohSan2 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend instead?
@ZacxOff2 жыл бұрын
I know HTB markets themselves to beginners wanting to learn… But even their beginner stuff feels like it’s at a fairly intermediate level. It’s like they are trying to brute force the info into you Also… yes. Cubes are confusing and stupid
@smartsalmon12 жыл бұрын
It is, you're right. When I did most of TryHackMe then went back to HTB it felt like a perfect transition.
@faanross2 жыл бұрын
THM does more hand-holding, which is great if you are a true beginner and have no idea what anything means. HTB def "forces" you to be self-sufficient, which can be a little hard to start but is ultimately likely the most important skill as a hacker - being able to be confronted with something you have no idea about and being able to figure it out by asking the right questions, and piecing the relevant info together. They are both great imo, lately HTB wins out for me just because I can learn from IppSec, which is some kind of gift from the Hacking Gods.
@faanross2 жыл бұрын
It such a new mindset for me - being both completely bamboozled and fine with being bamboozled. I call it being "led by curiosity", typically if something does not work the way I though it "should've" I would get mad at it and think - why the hell are you not doing what you are supposed to. Now, I've trained myself to think - huh, that's interesting, it didn't do the thing I though it would, let's figure out why... It's almost like it has something to teach one about, y'now life in general eh?
@podavu70442 жыл бұрын
@@smartsalmon1 Same here !
@C_itsNemo Жыл бұрын
What prerequisite do I need for this. I’m currently finishing the Google cybersecurity program right now
@Jordan-hz1wr2 жыл бұрын
ngl HTB has some damn good courses.
@FaLkraydz5 ай бұрын
0:18 - Hello, please help! Can I have the name of the song at the beginning of the video after the intro? Shazam didn't catch it. LOL 😊
@neilthomas5026 Жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at 7:58 lmaooo ! i dont even know why GOLD !
@4Ur3L1US-hacks4 ай бұрын
You gained yourself a subscriber that you guy
@defnlife16832 жыл бұрын
I like this. I wish they didn't have a Discord as the main forum though. Discord mines a lot of customer data, including a history of all the chats, IP ADDR, etc.
@gatariqwq2 жыл бұрын
im curious as to where you can find proof of these claims
@defnlife16832 жыл бұрын
The sad part is that it was easy to obtain the information, and the amount of info they track is insane. I decided to delete the account because of that. Obviously KZbin is worse, since it's a huge data-mining operation, I'm also considering deleting all my google related accounts soon.
@gatariqwq2 жыл бұрын
@@defnlife1683 do you have a link you can point me to?
@defnlife16832 жыл бұрын
@@gatariqwq I linked it above, but maybe it doesn't show up for you. Search on yt - Discord fined 800k and your discord data package is dangerous.
@defnlife16832 жыл бұрын
@@gatariqwq hope that helps!
@hankmoody5514 Жыл бұрын
Im adding these to the list. They are relatively affordable.
@ChrisWiley772 жыл бұрын
This looks amazing, especially for people who can't afford the expensive certifications. However, my big question with this is, how is it viewed by the industry when it comes to looking for a job with this cert?
@illusionsingh Жыл бұрын
Next Year This cert will be mine Because this year I'm focusing on OSCP
@blixerblacking42112 жыл бұрын
this is the most undirect sponsor I have ever seen good job but I got you John 😂
@tizkit12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video John. I'm glad HTB has made a more financially accessible Certification I just wish they didn't do the blocks thing. Using their own currency is sketchy as hell and I think hurts their credibility.
@shadowKamiyama Жыл бұрын
may i ask is it free access right were you dont have to pay for this if you want to try it out because if so that will be good to do
@sampaioveiga2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, great video as usual. Which would you recommend: HTB CPTS or eJPTv2? Thanks
@_AN2032 жыл бұрын
10 days... ?!?!? They are merciful !! Not like OFFSEC Exams.... 😶😑
@Lucad22782 жыл бұрын
Hi when you mentioned the pricing, you said "if you're a student - if you're not a student" Student as in any student or is there any specific studies you need to be doing which give you access to the "student" pricing scheme? Thanks
@dimitriosbougioukas61502 жыл бұрын
We accept any educational institution in Academy…. 😊
@javonnierutherford91512 жыл бұрын
hey john, could you do a comparison between online courses like INE, TCM, HacktheBox, etc and show ones you recommend, don’t recommend, and why (basically like a ‘Best online cybersecurity courses for beginners’ video? I’m a college student and my college (Texas State) doesn’t offer a cybersecurity degree so im kinda forced to learn through these online academies for the time being. thanks !
@mrarmbar405 ай бұрын
If I have access to the eJPT training through my workplace, and could do the student version of the HTB CPTS which one would you recommend to do for knowledge, training, and job readieness after completion of the cert?
@thatoneguywithtwothumbs Жыл бұрын
Yea but putting on a resume that your experience in cyber security is a certification from htb is a guarantee for a quick and good quality job right? Would you be laughed out of the interview or would it be taken seriously?
@kylemcgowan1 Жыл бұрын
What logo is on that hoodie besides the Nike logo?
@UNUNFBFB2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos , greetings from Iraq 🇮🇶
@praneeth.v88010 ай бұрын
some people say CPTS is harder than OSCP, so if i prepare for CPTS and do the pentration tester job role path on HTB does oscp exam becomes easier?
@lemmack2 жыл бұрын
This course and certification looks incredible, but it has almost zero industry recognition right now. Don't do it to get a job, do it to learn a lot. Maybe one day employers will respect HTB as they should.
@verduoh2 жыл бұрын
A lot of cybersecurity professionals do respect HTB but it's not yet recognised as a significant certification platform. That will change because hundreds of organisations and universities already use HTB in their training/learning environments.
@phillydee3592 Жыл бұрын
Great way of looking at it...do it to gain skills and learn..Like I heard that most get cybersecurity jobs by networking 🤷🏻♂️ so you never know..
@sreenathkalarickal2 жыл бұрын
I completed quarter of this cpts training but due to HR requirements i had to choose CEH. Nd now i am running around CEH😪
@Kattakam2 жыл бұрын
Don't know about this one. The already community certifications meet the basic level of acceptance. Problem with this one is, it supposed to be entry level but has all the elements (except price) to be intermediate. Also, picking and choosing the 85ish questions that will be in an exam out of, I think you said 24 modules is down right insane if you are taking the test. This brings me around to what mastery looks like and how a basic level certification needs to be that - basic. Businesses alike will see this as unrealistic because of the time (ten days) to achieve and willing participants let alone what job is going to pay top dollar for a basic level certification...
@coolergappney19432 жыл бұрын
I've been offered several entry level IT jobs just from talking a out HTB and what I learned, and told with what I know I could easily work my way up quick. That's from two separate professionas one from Dartmouth and another from a local bank. I've been practicing every day for a year and a half. I talk with a guy who works under the bank guy that offered me a job. He's been working at the bank for almost 3 years and knows a quarter of what I know. So yes this an amazing resource, with information that easily transfers over to other certs.
@dennisreynolds92022 жыл бұрын
I've been doing hack the box for a few months. But I stop. I'll back into if it's true.
@hitanshugedam84082 жыл бұрын
CPTS or OSCP, what would you recommend?
@boyata-rj3zy2 ай бұрын
cpts by far without a doubt
@johnvardy95592 жыл бұрын
Without background pentester can i start with this one?
@fram11112 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@raymondkapumpa20452 жыл бұрын
Hai John I didn't complete my computer science degree, how can this certificate help me to acquire a job if I complete
@Rogues4Ever2 жыл бұрын
@John Hammond, as a software engineer who is looking at broadening his horizons, what tips would you give for this?
@TonyAsh-rp6fp2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I am a beginner , I am confused about hack the box. Do they teach in video tutorial or they have just labs only. is it for a newbie ? because i registered but no clue what to do.
@ahmedmouad344 Жыл бұрын
what about bug hunter one is it worth, will it teach me all what i need to be ready as a bug hunter to actually start at hacker one or something? thank you
@WtfAnupam Жыл бұрын
NO, you don't do Network pentest in BUg Bounty
@vinothn42282 жыл бұрын
Could you please let me know the requirements for this course.?
@sourabhpurohit85752 жыл бұрын
I just want to know if it is recognised by recruiters or not ?
@brypleb57922 жыл бұрын
it has value of course, but more well known ones are going to be more recognized by recruiters/employers. The OSCP is the top dog as far as that goes.
@JonnyWilson-rg3uv19 күн бұрын
I like the mitre attack/defend a lil better than the kill chain mythology. a lil more in depth imo but I'm not certified or anything just learning on my own time because I love tech. I took my CompTIA security plus and passed and as soon as I have the money I'm going to maybe get the ceh next . Ifanyone can point me towards some free resources id really appreciate it as I said I'm self taught and don't have alot of money so any free resources I can learn from please let me know
@weyland-yutani.2 жыл бұрын
any recommendations for those who cannot learn in such a reading heavy environment, specifically video based hands on type of training sites?
@IJSayin2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there is a way that your computer can read it aloud for you
@weyland-yutani.2 жыл бұрын
Of course it can...it needs to be seen
@موسىالعبود-د2ك Жыл бұрын
most I enter the exam after I finish the 41day !! or I can make it whenever I want ?
@WtfAnupam Жыл бұрын
as soon as you complete your training or course material from HTB
@anishgoud6512 жыл бұрын
There are any certification for automotive cybersecurity
@rationalbushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I have done most all the learning tracks on Try Hack Me. When I looked at Hack The Box the confusing payment method was one of my big complaints. THM is so much easier if you want VIP access you pay something like 100 euros per year and you can access everything there. But this does sound interesting to me so maybe once I finish a few things at THM I will give HTB another try.
@dimonbaly6885 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I sometimes study a lot, I also started with Trihakmi. Hack The Box is very expensive for a subscription, I usually go through everything quickly, I have to wait for the “cubes” to open other training material or buy them separately. They will get tired of looking for another platform for learning. Why can't they make a regular subscription like on THM?
@ToanNguyen-br7fn2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, can you please do a video comparing CPTS to eJPT? From course to exam and its worth in the industry. Like which do you think will be better, which is more advanced, is both necessary or is one or the other enough?
@hasanster7442 жыл бұрын
Seems like CPTS is much more better. I have ejpt,it is simple.Actually i thought cpts can be comparable with ecpptv2
@Tv3kar2 жыл бұрын
eJPT is junior level, I would say CPTS is one level up.
@ToanNguyen-br7fn2 жыл бұрын
@@Tv3kar thank you, so would you say it's one level below oscp then?
@ToanNguyen-br7fn2 жыл бұрын
@@hasanster744 thank you
@Tv3kar2 жыл бұрын
@@ToanNguyen-br7fn Yes. Not 100% necessary to take it to pass OSCP, but it has some good knowledge if starting out
@wkaibigan2 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a lot of different certifications around. Who actually regulates them to the point that the certifications actually mean anything in the real world?
@defnlife16832 жыл бұрын
The market/employers. Companies and customers decide which people they hire.
@udotcarter2 жыл бұрын
Be diverse in this industry. From forensics Detection Traffic Analysy Intel Purple / Red team are in my tool box
@sahirsahir96042 жыл бұрын
Can I get a course content in pdf or videos etc
@ryankessler95286 ай бұрын
This "Exam" is horseshit. Can't even get one flag I've gone through all of my notes in from the role path and I can't find shit. Probably losing my job over it too. Love it
@cristianalvarez5036 Жыл бұрын
Can a complete noob with 0 cyber knowledge complete this course? I work on IT & got plenty of time to study, but 0 knowledge in programming language or tools for the trade. Like I said, starting from scratch. Is it doable? Or I need other certs prior?
@WtfAnupam Жыл бұрын
prior to this CPTS you can go with certs like EJPTV2
@abdullahgamer8560 Жыл бұрын
Im starting from scratch too, but i will do the google cybersecurity cert first, just to get the foundational knowledge
@gvoden2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this for security engineers/architects who aren't full time pentesters?
@verduoh2 жыл бұрын
Almost all roles in cybersecurity/IT can benefit from knowing how pentesting/hacking actually works and knowing how to hack at a professional level can be a lot of fun and open doors
@markgreen2170 Жыл бұрын
...yes, 'copy/paste' is a good strategy ...but, learn how to TYPE FIRST! next, you can configure your shell cursor to use vi commands. that with a large command history buffer will serve you well:)
@nixcutus2 жыл бұрын
Already on it...
@corners17332 жыл бұрын
cool, sounds like a good tool
@Fencist-dt8od Жыл бұрын
Do i need to renew the cpts?
@WtfAnupam Жыл бұрын
NOOOO
@Stick2Web2 жыл бұрын
I thought Kratos was talking before I looked at video. Lol
@razdingz2 жыл бұрын
marketing aside , will anyone hire with this ? Am only imagining what food tastes like these days ?
@irs-e72 жыл бұрын
41 days sounds like a joke :D Maybe if you will studying everyday for 8h I have 120+ h and 40% at this path
@verduoh2 жыл бұрын
41 days is not mandatory, it's just an estimate, and it's realistic for the kind or training this is. You can do it over whatever length of time is realistic for you. It's estimated that if you work at it full time, it would take about 8 weeks but most people will take a while longer. You can take all year if you like, though frequent learning will pay off better
@pachinchannel Жыл бұрын
It si imposible in 41 days.. the AD module just brings a way long content for a week.
@darianmariuschirca26562 жыл бұрын
I'm currently studying this path on HTB, but ... I'm curious regarding the certification, do you think is same, lower, greater when it comes to world renowned and curriculum weight, compared with OSCP ? Thanks
@anonyghost74222 жыл бұрын
Comparing a brand new cert to a well established one is not a fair comparison. OSCP is king (by recognition, I personally think PNPT will be its rival real soon as it continues to grow) but I do think that this path and cert will have a place in the industry. The material and hands on will most definitely help prepare you for all current pentesting certs and HTB is offering it at a reasonable price! TCM Security has been leading this "affordable education" and it is good to see HTB follow suite and offer something solid for an affordable price. Most pentest roles pay well, so investing a few hundred dollars to eventually land that role is worth IMO. I will be taking this cert just to gain more knowledge after PNPT and then I will go after OSCP. In regards to quality? We may have to just take the course and see how good the platform can convey those topics . Just my 2 cents
@NoportOfbot2 жыл бұрын
I was told it s between eJPT and PNPT
@dimitriosbougioukas61502 жыл бұрын
CPTS is an OSCP, GPEN and eCPPT equivalent
@Rootreaper9 ай бұрын
Has anyone with a family and job pass this? I just don’t want to take vacation days off for this
@H4ck3er0114 күн бұрын
I am in thi situation. I passed the OSCP and it was not easy between HTB TCM and the PEN-200 but I made it.
@1080778542 жыл бұрын
I just saw the biggest commercial ever
@MAX-nv6yj2 жыл бұрын
I think I will go to it after I finish Advent of cyber 2022 at THM ^_^
@trustedsecurity60392 жыл бұрын
The BIG problem with this "cert" is you need to pay and make all the modules before being able to apply for the exam... and that's a big problem when you already know 90% or more... i will lost soooo much time and finally i will not take it and they will not have all the customers like me
@wiktor54792 жыл бұрын
Hello Boss!
@ti0sec2 жыл бұрын
GO to CPTS!
@pachinchannel Жыл бұрын
41 days to finish the pentester jr path? Let me laught.. Ha!
@milestips2 жыл бұрын
thanks you
@_AN2032 жыл бұрын
13:04 Looking at you OFFSEC... 😶
@razdingz Жыл бұрын
i dont see any employers who ask for this ,
@VirtualShaft2 жыл бұрын
How can I trust an ad
@_JohnHammond2 жыл бұрын
Don't 😉 You can check it out and see for yourself! 😜
@kairoswave2 жыл бұрын
forget the eJPTv2...INE ruined that with the new scoring system. PNPT and CPTS are the way! just bought my vouchers and looking forward to it :)
@tomgibson92912 жыл бұрын
There must be something wrong with this offer, because now my login to the academy doesn't work now and the system is so messed up I can't reset my password, or create a new account because the email is already taken. This might be good training, but the account management sucks worse than anything I have ever seen.
@bitter2sweet2 жыл бұрын
Contact them and they will help you fix it. Mine got messed up a couple of weeks ago.
@christopherwest4931 Жыл бұрын
i feel more dumb when you call yourself dumb 😢
@ArSiddharth2 жыл бұрын
Sms spoofing free tools or web???
@ArSiddharth2 жыл бұрын
will someone help me, my college website is using old version of php (php5) So what should I do, See also Exploits of the Exploits Database but they are many, There are many vulnerabilities from PHC 5 to the latest version
@MUGISHAPrince-lm7uv2 жыл бұрын
Is it Free and you get Certified for it
@tomamore3 Жыл бұрын
I have to be honest. This is clearly a paid infomercial. I'm rather disappointed, and it hurt your reputation with me. Makes me hesitant to take your suggestions seriously. Had you started with "This is a paid ad" I would have a different perspective.
@WtfAnupam Жыл бұрын
And you are wrong, I have attempted both OSCP and CPTS and man ohh man CPTS is not easy as OSCP :/
@michaelpierre97382 жыл бұрын
"Who?" lolol
@APT43082 жыл бұрын
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@DavidCosta852 жыл бұрын
I would like to become a purple teamer or intrusion specialist. your videos help me to learn a lot. what is the fastest way to become a _hacker_?
@majkbencic86162 жыл бұрын
I would like to have a certificate from Hack the Box/big/fan.... but read so much.... Unfortunately I read and speak English slowly.... I am monkey sees monkey learns ......2 jehrs i nid translet the text and anderstend wath this is
@claudiamanta19438 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@cywer59202 жыл бұрын
What has more value in terms of practical experience as a beginner. This HTB courses or tryhackme path?
@1hackatdaylinus2 жыл бұрын
I was start in that way hackingthebox
@Kristoffslayer2 жыл бұрын
This feels like tryandhackme and OSCP mixed very well.