Becoming "Tactical" Doesn't Require Becoming "Tacticool"

[@Game-Preacher]

If you own a AR-15 you have thousands of dollars of tacticool devices. If you own a AK-47 you have hundreds of dollars of tacticool devices. If you own a Mosin Nagant you have sling and ammo What more do you need comrade?

[@unknownfreedom9350]

+Forest Ray a sks comrade

[@tylerjavier9974]

Bayonet?

[@_.9S._]

@@tylerjavier9974 Grenades too if you manage to snag them.

[@Killzoneguy117]

Slings and ammo are capitalist vanity. True patriots of the Soviet Union do not need sling. They do not need ammo. They do not even need gun. They only need glorious light and radiance of Comrade Stalin

[@JoeyP322]

Very well said... There's a reason why the Mosin has been around since 1891... Powerful cheap round too... Can't beat it.

[@pablosuarez4592]

When you run out of ammo you can use it as a bat.

[@mhaugen692]

Or spear lol

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Just use the pointy bit.

[@markmccormack7206]

"If I'm gonna be tactically efficient, what do I need?" "An education," is the first thing that came to mind.

[@gregsummers7350]

Well said. "All the Gear and No Idea." is what SF operators say about these tacticool idiots. You can do a few very cheap upgrades (bed the action & float the barrel) to make the Mosin Nagant a more accurate shooter. Clean all the cosmoline out of he bolt and chamber. Polish all the bolt components for a slick action. Use snap caps to practice sight picture, trigger control and reloading at home. Then practice shooting as often as you can at the range; so that you can shoot accurately to 500 metres. Thanks for the great post, Greg

[@rangerup1804]

I like your thoughts on the Mosin. Good usable weapon if you know how to shoot it effectively. Windex works great at the range then I use warm water and soap at the house for a thorough clean, then oil it and come back to it a week later and check for any rust and will clean it again with some Hoppes then lube it with some Rem Oil. I have three Mosins, an original 1891, a 91/30 and a model 38. Even the old 1891 shoots straight and accurate. Like your channel, you cover a lot of different weapon systems. Keep up the good work.

[@GunGuyGallagher]

"Tacti-COOOOOOOOOOOL!" I installed my tactical third testicle, bought some multicam-maxipads, waxed everything below my neck, got some tactical patches, bought a tactical assault pen, and got some tactical bacon... needless to say I'm pretty high speed, low drag. I don't know why so many dudes want to replace training with gear. If they'd use all of that money to buy more ammo and spend more time pulling the trigger they'd be way better off. Nothing is as tactical as putting bullets into people before they put bullets into you and only practice accomplishes that. Mosins make it easy because they're cheap to feed. ;)

[@itsnodawayitustabe5654]

I know that kind of culture is what annoyed me a lot when I was in the army It sadly is more about looks than practicality, they have you patrol terrible terrain with 70 pounds of shit we never used but when ever they take fire they just call in cas

[@tedhodge4830]

Might want to get some stripper clips for those cartridges, a big part of what makes bolt action magazine fed rifles effective is the stripper clip loading mechanism. They're cheap, a couple dollars at the most and 2 5 round clips should fit neatly in each of those pouches. That's 20 rounds of .30 cal with a convenient loading mechanism. I've heard on a Mosin, grab the top cartridge and tilt it upwards to relieve spring tension before you push the rounds down for smooth loading.

[@Catburd641]

I agree with the general sentiment, but I will say that swapping the wooden stock for the new Archangel stock by ProMag, removing the bayonet and grabbing a couple of ten-round magazines drastically improved my M44's portability, ergonomics during shooting and carrying, target acquisition, ease and speed of shooting and reloading. I mean, it's hard to beat doubling the number of rounds in the weapon, while cutting reload time in half. I rebuilt the trigger sears myself, polished all of the moving surfaces, and accurized the receiver by smacking it with a hammer until the bolt didn't wobble anymore. Necessary? Naw. And it's a $200 stock on a $100 gun. But for $300 I've got a gun that will compete against any of my buddies' $800 Realtree hydro-dipped "sniper rifles", and look like something out of the Bourne trilogy, at half the cost to shoot, to boot.

[@Czechmate99]

I understand and agree with the sentiment. It's a fact of life that there are people out there who can't afford &1000

[@Defx10]

I have an AK-47, which I put a quad rail with angled grip, a collapsible stock, and a red dot scope. My goal was not to be "cool," but to increase comfort and effectiveness. I have carpal tunnel syndrome, and the angled grip is more comfortable and less strenuous on my wrist than the standard AK foregrip. I'm 6'2 with a long wing-span, and the standard AK stock was too short for me, so I got one that's longer. I got the red dot scope so I could more quickly acquire targets. If someone wants to call me a "mall ninja" or mock me for being "tacticool," then so be it. I also have a Mosin Nagant, which I've done nothing to. Both of those rifles will be with me in a SHTF scenario.

[@armeddefender]

@Hellsredeemer ...why run and gun, when I can just beam somebody from 400+ yards away?

[@alexgottmituns7049]

Good video. This has been my argument as well: A good guy can have all the tactical gear and armament he can carry. But some bad guy with a cheap 22 rifle and no "tactical gear" will end up shooting the good guy when he least expects it and hoard his guns. Sad but true. It's not about what caliber you have, it's knowing how to use it.

[@slayer04031974]

Exactly!!

[@groundsquirrel354]

Thats why I advocate less equipment on an AR-15. Learn to use it as a base platform, master the iron sights, then add ONLY what you NEED to improve your performance. I don't do electronics at present and would only opt for a reflex sight mounted to co-witness with my iron sights. I do use the magpul ergonomic foregrip. All other mods are mechanical in nature like chrome bolt carrier, tactical charging handle for easier pulling with gloves, etc.

[@tedhodge4830]

Worth remembering that the highest scoring sniper ace of all time, Simo Hayha, used the iron sights on a Finnish M39 Mosin for a large number of his kills (the others allegedly being with his Suomi SMG). He preferred iron sights because it reduced the glare and chewed snow to dampen his breath signature. Henry Chan also dinged a steel gong at 1100 yards with an M39 with open sights and surplus Finnish ammo. Some of the world's most successful snipers used the Mosin to great effect, despite often being considered one of the worst contemporary bolt actions of both world wars.

[@VanPrepper]

This is a great video. Thanks for posting it.

[@DevilTakeMe]

Military surplus ammo that you can buy for like 18 cents a shot contains a primer that uses potassium chlorate. After firing this turns into potassium chloride (a salt like common table salt) which can rapidly start the rusting process if it bonds to metal, particularly in the barrel. AK47s that shoot surplus ammo have this problem, too. Windex is thought to help prevent this salt from bonding to the metal because of its limited ammonia content before washing it all out with hot soapy water.

[@thefirefox-bx3mx]

The Battle Of Stalingrad just ask the Germans.about Mosin Negant Sniper Rifles

[@215dagby]

Cover fire is either well-aimed or area fire upon the enemy position. It works like this: it's a barrage of fire that keeps the enemy from effectively exposing himself to shoot (you can't effectively shoot and still remain 100% covered, some exposure has to exist). This frees up your element to flank and approach the enemy from an unsuspecting angle, while he's tied up with his head down.

[@matarilelirelon4235]

Yeap. One of the North Hollywood robbers had a malfunction in his AK and that's how things started to go downhill for them.

[@spikespiegel11015]

Things went downhill for them because they were idiots. They had supressive fire all day, but didn't actually use it for what it's supposed to be used for

[@matarilelirelon4235]

crawch mongol yeap

[@AlexKS1992]

Not to mention the cops were not willing to let them get away and the gunman were wounded. If the cops didn't get them there wounds would've done them in.

[@pedrobossio5440]

The funny thing about this was that a Mossin would have ended that whole robery within five minutes, cops didn't have a high powered rifle.

[@armeddefender]

@Jesses001 The windex neutralizes the corrosive salts left behind when shooting corrosive ammo. You can also just dunk the firearm in plain water (make sure to dry it out well).

[@texxmexx8176]

LOL! Reminds me of the WWII "Liberator" pistol " A good gun to use to get another gun with"...

[@pozn9962]

Texx Mexx, Be neat to have one of those Liberators in the collection. LoL

[@groundsquirrel354]

Here’s my observations since I’d done quite a bit of reading and research, and have practical experience with the M-16/M-4 in combat (Afghanistan) and AR-15 for sporting. This is opinion, so please don’t get too bent out of shape. First, the mosin was designed in a time when conscripts were common. This meant the need for a basic gun that was decently accurate and functional in the worst of conditions was of prime importance. It wasn’t a pin-point accurate weapon, and from what I can gather most European weaponry from that time frame wasn’t either; They had a different mentality and less of an obsession with knocking flies off peaches without disturbing the fuzz. The mindset was accurate to hit a certain-sized target at specific distanmces. The 7.62x54R round will do tremendous damage regardless of where it hits, as long as it hits. So knocking out a dime size grouping wasn't a real concern for the design. This isn’t to say the gun isn’t accurate, or can’t be made more accurate. The Finns certainly upgraded their rifles and solved a lot of problems. Shims and magazine mods added levels of dependability the Russian models initially lacked. The same fixes can be applied just as easily today, and with a net search you can find resources for improved sights, shims and modified magazines. This usually costs less than the gear often added to an AR-15 platform. The standard US Army rifle and its extended family is a fine weapon with a solid history, but has its drawbacks. Many are difficult to operate in dirty conditions. The round size can be an issue with hardened targets. But it’s overall a good rifle and should be considered when looking for survival purposes. Likewise the Winchester Model 70 is an excellent rifle, and has been used in combat as well (Viet Nam). It’s generally considered an upgrade to the German Mauser, with its own uniqueness. It makes an excellent deer gun and long range competition shooter and comes in a wide variety of calibers. The mosin, while ugly in appearance, will operate in conditions which may otherwise cause problems for the M-16 variants. Comparative to a Win. Mod. 70, I’m unsure. But I would much rather have a mosin in close quarters as the rifle has been described as a spear with the potential to shoot. In other words, with its bayonet and steel buttplate it can double as a close quarters defensive weapon, but I certainly wouldn’t want to intentionally walk into a situation needing that. An M-16 with solid stock and bayonet would work well too, but a bayonet runs extra cash and the buttstock may not survive a rough encounter in a hard fight (saw several crack under less stressful conditions). The Win. Mod. 70 is best used for range in my opinion as it doesn’t feel study enough to be used as a club, then remain accurate without damage to the stock/retention bolt locations. I’ve heard complaints about the leather dog collars and canvas sling setup on a mosin, but the good news is it makes it much quieter than metal fixtures can be, especially from that time frame. Essentially as long as you know what you’re getting into, the rifle’s functionality and limitations, how to work around those or just accept them, then the mosin will work for multiple purposes. It’s not an uber weapon, but it is solid for what it offers. My only real gripe about it is the rising price of the current selection these days.Everyone's experience will be different, but I highly suggest at least trying one out at a local range before dismissing it as antiquated junk. When everything goes south, you want your gear to be the most reliable it can be, and most mosins are certainly that. So may not be an Olympic grade sharpshooter with it, but you can defend yourself and potentially harvest large game with it if need be. Plus the historical value means that as long as our supply is at it's present level, you can be pretty sure the prices will continue to rise like the other milsurp rifles have done.

[@armeddefender]

@Jesses001 No problem. Make sure it's the windex type with ammonia in it. It's the ammonia that actually neutralizes.

[@100radsbar]

If you load the Mosin ammo in stripper clips, you can reload the Mosin quickly. It takes a bit more practice than with the Mauser, but you can reload it quickly. :)

[@jordansilver4629]

I know I’m Late. But wow ! I just picked up my first moson. Took some time talking myself into getting none because bolt action was NEVER my top choice. But man ..... after cleaning 14 pounds of cosmoline out of it and cleaning and lubed up. It is a very impressive rifle. Mind you it’s 2020. I got mine for a 285cad. It looked a little beat up. But very very little next to no rust. And shoots like a DREAM. Amazing video by the way. Hope your still around.

[@DevilTakeMe]

Oh, I agree, it's not necessary, but it can help, is what the thought is. The best thing after finishing firing corrosive ammo is to clean it as soon as possible and a proper hot soapy water cleaning is best, but some people may not be able to clean their gun in a timely fashion or if they just enjoy having an extra step in the process. Having a little spray bottle of windex for a first wipedown before a proper hot water cleaning doesn't hurt.

[@MikeinVirginia1]

I like this cool straight-forward approach to the basics! In the last month, I've seen newbies racing to get the "cool" gear without knowing anything - then showing up at the range. I got "covered" by a .50 Desert Eagle and an "evil" AR-15 with a 60 round mag in it within 10 minutes. Talking to the range management about how to deal with this issue.

[@armeddefender]

@sethyew The biggest issue with Mosin Nagants is the quality of the barrels. Some of them have pretty bad barrels and sometimes the sights can be off pretty bad. As long as the mosin nagant is in pretty decent condition for it's age, you can hit a man sized target out to 500 meters. We have a 500m section over at my range, and there's some good Mosin shooter's that use that range to good effect. Have you checked out Mag30th's channel? that guy is pretty amazing with surplus rifles.

[@armeddefender]

@Tehyamz Where do you get your information? Have you sat down and tried shooting an Mosin Nagant 91/30 part 100 yards? I have, and I can tell you from first hand experience, a rack grade mosin with a decent barrel will hit out way farther than just 100 yards.

[@survivedsavedjohn1468]

I know that a lot of people will say bull crap but in my experience is a six-year combat vet I've chosen to sit in my living room with a Mosin 9130 on the couch. I've got a r so I've got pistols virus or have many many shotguns and yet I choose to sit with my Mosin I think it's a wise choice in every respect I guess time will tell thank you guys and thank you for this video

[@97Teakwondo]

I just got one and I love it, the only thing i think you need to think about. If that person see's you and it turns into a full on firefight, you have a bolt action, he most likley has a semi auto rifle and he has a better mag capacity.

[@Tripp426]

I have one of these and I love it. It's a 1942 so it's not as old as yours but it's still a blast to shoot. Something you forgot to mention about the Mosin is that recoil is very manageable considering the power of the caliber.

[@armeddefender]

@97bighunter If the Mosin is in decent shape, it's not hard to do. Shoot off a bag/bipod and it's easy. I've shot 500 meters with Mosins quite often. Just make sure it's sighted in correctly, and you are good to go. :)

[@kyleellis7130]

I just want to comment this lol I recently bought a WWII 1943 Mosin and it literally has a new bore it's in excellent shape and speaking of how well older bolt actions work compared to newer rifles. I have a 1900 Swedish Mauser and it's hits perfectly at 100 yrds it also has the original 119 year old barrel! It's in beautiful shape and shoots the well balanced and accurate 6.55x55 Swedish. I love it! Love my mosin too! Have a good one!

[@theonecalleddoc]

Its an issue of repair/replacement. If our M16/M4 breaks it can be easily parted out and or replaced. Also, in a firefight if someone needs to pick up my rifle after I have been hit it helps that its practically the same thing they have already been using. Not to mention all the accountability issues.

[@DeadeyeLefty]

I loved the FAL as well, only we called them the C1 and C2. What you say about the 'one shot deal' is exactly the difference between a battle rifle and an assault rifle. Since most rounds fired in combat tend to be suppressive, a soldier can carry more 5.56 ammo than 7.62. Our patrol load was 80 rds of 7.62 but when we adopted the 5.56, that went to 180rds and was still only 2/3 the weight. Where I live, it's not legal to take deer with 5.56(.223) but it is with either 7.62 (308Win) or .303

[@DelmondStrongarm]

good stuff, alotta good points. when asked what kind of gun to bring to his training course jeff cooper always said, "bring the gun you have."

[@Nationofhonor]

@MrMoonpaced Why would you want to know? That's just a standard one, it's not like it's special or anything.He probably got it at his local gun store. If you were wondering about the prices, it is around $90 for an average one, $190 for a high quality one, or $500 dollars for a badass sniper version used in the battle of Stalingrad (granted the scope is probably worth twice as much as the gun itself.

[@shonuff5429]

Thanks a lot brother. I did not know, and indeed was looking to understand corrosive ammunition. You are the first person I have encountered, that can satisfactorily explain how corrosive ammunition works.

[@WanderingBeast]

Im not saying it has to be a AR/AK but a mag fed weapon would be one thing I would want.

[@gurumagoo]

Boil the bottom of the bayonet for about 30 minutes. If yours is anything like the ones I have then it was covered in cosmoline when you got it. Cosmoline leaves a film and it also gets into the spring area making it really stiff to actuate. Boiling it should fix your problem. All my bayonets go on and off easily and smoothly.

[@teamphenomenon9517]

I just got one today and it is badass!!! - Thanks for the great videos!

[@killinpigs]

Exactly! I got the cool looking quad-rails for my AR, and it increased the weight dramatically. Once I thought about it...I wasn't going to be attaching anything to those rails, so I put the lightweight fore-stock back on the rifle. It's so much more fun to shoot now, and I can transition between targets much quicker. My "go to" guns are "manual", but I do like having the semi-auto in case I ever find myself against crazy odds.

[@silverblue73]

@millerusaf just to clarify, did you mean yards or meters? though, 500 yards is equal to 457 meters. 300 meters, the standard for farthest target on Army ranges, is a little challenge for iron sights. 500 meters is harder still.

[@thechinadesk]

Dear Miller, True. After Carlos Hathcock retired, his 30-06 Winchester Model 70 was tested at the range. They found to their surprise that it wouldn't shoot any better than 2 MOA at 100 yards. Of course that didn't prevent him from becoming the deadliest sniper in Vietnam.

[@bjb249248]

Great Video btw. I've always cleaned my Mosin Nagant dry and swabbed it with gun oil here and there but I was quite surprised when you mentioned wiping the action and chamber out with Windex. Even after shooting with corrosive ammunition I just wipe it down dry. Just curious as to what Windex actually does?

[@1anthonybrowning]

Here on YT, datamancer has a working prototype 10 round MN magazine. I don't know if he is in production yet. Maybe he has a waiting list for when he does. I recommend that you look into it and see.

[@sgtmasters]

dont get me wrong, I think the mosin nagant makes a hell of an intermediate range sniper style rifle. Theyre really decently accurate at long ranges if you just practice with them.

[@admiralfaffy]

because it wasnt meant to be a high velocity or accurate round... it was meant as a subsonic heavy hitting round with very good penetration on soft and hard body armor. Thats why the Mosin used the 7.62x54R and the Modern Draganov and other Russian(sniper) rifles uses their version of the 5.56

[@mach1mustang1971]

where did you see the 200 rounds for sale at?...i have been struggling with trying to find good ammo for my mosin m44...thanks so much for the practical info....nice to see someone that does not think you have to be rambo to be prepared...take care

[@215dagby]

We encountered DShK 1938 fire at one point. Wasn't extremely well-aimed but it was enough to halt our movement. From that point, Artillery assets were used to neutralize the machine gun nest. That was a pretty good idea of how being on the wrong end of fire superiority works. In the end we established fire superiority with 105mm arty.

[@cronus33]

@bjb249248 Most 7.62x54R ammo that people purchase/fire is corrosive. This means there are salts in the primers (for preservation) that will collect inside the firearm, which can attract moisture and lead to pitting of the metal. The ammonia in Windex counteract these chemicals.

[@WingmanSR]

I absolutely agree that *time* is the crucial factor with corrosively primed ammo; Whatever you have the quickest access to after shooting milsurp is what you should use, windex, water, 409, whatever is handy. The reason why it's corrosive is because K-Cl is hygroscopic IE attracts water molecules from the air creating saltwater. Everyone needs some corrosive ammo though, the stuff lasts forever which is why they choose to use it still. Probably know that already, but maybe new info for someone

[@ThrowingSpoon]

I definitely agree with the point your present in the video man, I personally love the Mosin Nagant. What ammo loads do you recommend for a fellow M91/30 owner?

[@JCTheSniper15]

The M91/30 is an excellent rifle. I have one myself. I paid about 120 for mine, and all the serial numbers are matched, and it had never been fired, so I think that was pretty decent. I just couldn't pass up such a great marksmans rifle for such a great price, and with ammunition for cheap.

[@61loneviking]

Great vid and right on the money. Are those ammo pouches Russian? Have you seen them for sale anywhere else? I've been looking for some pouches like this. The M/Nagant really surprised me as to how accurate it is and how good it's sights are.

[@PhauxTheFox]

you should pick up a few stripper clips, they're very nice and come in hand and help keep you ammo neat and together

[@Hiberniason]

What kind of firearm do I need: MP15T, G22 and a G27 stashed in a back pocket. 20 mags for the 15T and 10 for the Glock 22 which will fit either pistol... I have an M44, SMLE Mk IV, an SKS... Great rifles. But in the world you are talking about what rounds are you likely to find on the battlefield: 5.56 or 7.62 x 39. There won't be any .303 British and only some 7.62 Soviet either from the SVD or linked in the PKM... My point is know what weapons fire the 7.62 Soviet so you can harvest...

[@amyhuk]

@4FunGuns the great thing about bolt action rifles is they are nearly as fast single shot as they are cycling from the magazine. but i wouldnt suggest going toe to toe if someone is shooting at you with a semi or full auto. just bug out. the nagant shines at 300 to 800 yards. i could wipe your whole squad out before you could move into range to return fire

[@4545joedirt]

@cfleig all you need to do is clean the "salt" from surplus rounds out. i have one and i bought a spray can of cleaner lublicater and protector stuff for about $12 and the "salt" colects moisture and rust the barrel

[@Krakatov]

that is under 50 rounds in the ammo pouch. I usually put 40 rounds in there, and it is jammed full at that. no wobble at all.

[@mustangcop342]

I found the short M-38 for $130, 2 extra mag pouches(6 compartments total). Stock pad and pouch to hold cleaning supplies. Practice once a month, i'm good to go for anything. Plus i get to have some fun once a month. I've hit 500yards with the short barrel.

[@WingmanSR]

potassium chloride is very readily water soluble though. The windex/ammonia thing is really not even needed, hot water down the bore a couple times and your good to go.

[@215dagby]

I see your point but I've gotta point out something. I was a Non Commissioned Officer and served two tours in Iraq. There's an aspect of battle that puts this style of weapon at a slight disadvantage. Yes, it's deadly. Yes, it's a good weapon but the factor is fire superiority. Massed fire/cover fire. Once fire superiority is established, pop shots with a slow firing weapon become harder to get off, since all sorts of lead is flying your way. Once you're pinned, a flanking element will move on

[@viktorgorchev]

Awesome video. Will be buying a Mosin sniper myself in November. Have wanted one since watching Enemy at the Gates when I was 17 =) And yeah, 7.62x54R will drop just about anything you would encounter in a post-apoc survivalist situation with ease, out to a reasonable distance if your rifle is maintained well enough and you're a decent enough shot.

[@armeddefender]

@Whitehorze I'm looking around for an AK. I want a nice, sturdy AK to round out my little "tactical" rifle collection (Mosin Nagant, PSL, then an AK)

[@Fiddepik]

the Kalashnikovs (for that sakr Dragunovs) are indeed the rugged type of automatic/half automatic rifles. but due to auto/half auto feature it's less reliable, and there's more parts that can fail. if you -had- to get a assault rifle, i'd say the AK (because things such as colts are jamming easily from dust and dirt unless you clean obnoxiously often). if you want a gun that can outlast you (and not the other way around) get a bolt action, you will also save ammo that way, no trigger happiness.

[@santapoco]

Great Video! Especially for the more grounded in reality prepper/survivalist. Much appreciated from the folks on a budget who don't buy into all the hype about having 4 weapons categories (Pistol, Main Battle Rifle, Long range rifle and shotgun) plus 2000 rounds of ammo for each one. This route allows you to budget the extra cash you save for more food storage and still afford a weapon to protect it.

[@gentlegiant6585]

Mosins are used to hunt polar bears. Plus there's stripper clips for faster loading. Yep, you can get your targets weapons to after taking them down. I use an sks. Getting a Mosin for a sniper/hunting rifle. Also, watch Enemy at the Gates to see what they can do.

[@xxreaver117xx]

depends on the ballistic protection, IIIa and IVa vests will stop a mosin round, although most people don't wear helmets and headshots work

[@ZASurvivalist]

One of the most under rated yet best SHTF shoot and scoot rifles out there. Accurate, easy to operate, inexpensive and powerful.

[@robertschroeder4107]

i know what your talking about, and with that sling i walked around with the gun holstered like they do on that game(across my back, butt of the gun upwards, turns out you can easily grab it and aim it like that). It wasn't loaded of course... i'm not an idiot. Just a dork....

[@AngPur]

Windex usually doesn't have ammonia in it, and It's debatable if you even need ammonia to remove the corrosive salts.

[@MrAmericanBarricade]

My friend and I both just ordered ourselves a mosin nagant. They should be here on Monday. Can't wait.

[@BrianHealy]

I like your idea here, the only thing I would add is good revolver as a side arm. A .38 or 357 would come more in handy on up close threats and you don't have to worry about jamming. A shotgun isn't a bad choice either. Nice video

[@ShotgunShooter6666]

Love my mosin. After shipping, I paid $164.50 for 880rds of 54r (2 spam cans). Paid $120 for rifle locally.Not even 300 bucks and theres enough ammo to last a while with a very nice rifle.

[@shockurmom]

I picked mine up for $100 at my local gun shop about 2 years ago and i love it. Couldn't ask for a better rifle. Especially for the money. Durable and built like a tank. Weather your shooting old surplus ammo or newer non corrosive ammo, it doesn't matter. These guns are still being used by soldiers in many countries to this day so you know they will last a lifetime.

[@papamoose71]

Good points,use what you got. When i started out, i got a 12gauge. But let me tell ya, i had a lot of fun building up my collection.

[@zyanhh]

Mosin is great, it fought in both world wars and nearly any war since 1890, its ammo is still used in modern sniper rifles (SVD). It can work in -40 degrees (celsius). I would only recommend getting ammo clips. Much faster reload speed and they are cheap. Also great is that you can still get cheap optics with mount for this gun. In Belarus they still made same rifle scopes like used Zaytsev and other famous russian WW2 snipers.

[@mastervader1028]

I'd spend the extra few dollars for a Finn M39 Mosin. You'll have barely any problems when cycling the bolt and it's WAY more capable of awesome accuracy than the 91/30 (although the 91/30 can be pretty accurate). Not to mention, it's shorter and the iron sights aren't sighted with the bayonet attached.

[@Aricsspace]

thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally a voice of reason.

[@dukenukemthreed]

@CrotalusKid I wont clean metal with windex or ammonia ever again, why chance the corrosion? Also petroleum based cleaners PREVENT corrosion and continue cleaning even after you run a dry patch.

[@Loveoftheoutdoors]

THANK YOU!!! I've been looking for the American-equivalent (Springfield) for the same reasons. But I thought it would be easier to scrounge ammo for it since it's 30-06. I think the Enfield, Mosen, Springfield are good choices for the exact reasons you mentioned.

[@oscarfox15]

Please explain how one jams a revolver faster than one jams a semi automatic of any kind............

[@74Hobbes]

Yup... QUALITY gear and being proficient with that gear is key. All of my personal gear is tuned towards hunting, yet can easily be used for other purposes if necessary.

[@Strelok762]

also if you get good enough with a bolt action rifle like the one featured in the video if need be you can keep up with a semi-automatic rifle under aimed rapid fire

[@floydteter4323]

Spot on. I can't run so fast or jump so high anymore. But I can defend my self anywhere from 6 feet to 300 yards with my Mosin M44. Next buy will be a 91/30 for accuracy at longer ranges. Skill with a Mosin will win out over unskilled spray and pray.

[@mythic456]

@hillikt I've shot guns before and are comfy. I mean as my first own rifle of a larger caliber. Would it be to advance for a first large caliber ownership or should look towards something else?

[@sebastianthecool]

what does the sign on the left side say? spoty420- should be good any rifle oil should do rem oil on bolt makes it slide real good but use hoppes 9 to clean it

[@biglj822009]

Mosin Nagant if you have the right try of scope you can shoot up to a mile. I just bought mine not too long along and i like it.

[@xxreaver117xx]

I've found that building AR-15's are a lot cheaper than buying them if you go to the right places you can build a pretty nice Ambi AR that anyone can pick up and use for about 700 bucks but yes i did start off with a crate of 91/30's

[@Aulaein]

@millerusaf Would you happen to know if he is using a regular infantry or an actual sniper? I know the M91/30s used as snipers were of better quality than the regular infantry ones. I went to my nearest Dunham's and looked at their's ($120). They looked really good and definitely unissued, but im not sure how accurate they will be. Ill be elated if I buy one and end up with a mosin that might as well have been a sniper during WWII.

[@BetaBucky312]

go on cheaper than dirt, they're selling a 440 round spam can 7.62x54R Romanian ammo surplus for $95. $125 if you include the shipping charge

[@markalan68mt]

Couldn't agree with you more. Fancy and hi-tech just means there's more that can go wrong with it. Simple, powerful, and accurate can't be beat. I'm getting mine in a couple of weeks. Can't wait.

[@admiralfaffy]

plus the round an ak uses is a SHORTENED and LESS powerful version of the Mosin's 7.62x 54 R, and they easily penetrate soft and hard armor vests... Totally agree with you here, rounds per minute is always less important than accuracy and taking your time/lining your shot up

[@recordmanful]

Corrosive ammo would not be a good thing in a survival situation IMO, there are non-corrosive ones from Bear.

[@Hiberniason]

@CATCH22LR why not use a flintlock? At least long enough to create an opportunity to trade up... For that matter a hammer, pocket knife, screwdriver, etool, nail-gun, shoelace, lighter fluid and a match, ax, pry bar, rock, 2x4, baseball bat, golf club or just about anything else you can use to create trauma to the human body can be used as a "starting place" to the wide, wide world of battlefield recovery and self supply opportunities.... So why not use a flintlock?

[@BigSwede7403]

This brings up a favorite point of mine. While a modern 5.56mm rifle will give you great mobility and capacity and what not... Most modern tactics and equipment are aimed at countering those strengths. Giving a person with a long range, hard hitting, full sized rifle an advantage if he knows how to use it. A bullet from a Nagant will go through that wall, through the vest(i think), through the person, and out the other side, at 400 meters. Not many 5.56 rounds capable of that.

[@armeddefender]

@djSpinege Yep...the ammonia in certain types of Windex will neutralize the corrosive salts on old corrosive ammo. Of course, hot water will do the same thing. :)

[@kingmasta11]

why not have both, mosin for distance, and a simple AR for close quarters?