Bed bugs, good luck charms, rain coats vs ponchos 🪳🍀☔️ Camino Q & A! (Round 2)

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[@denniscockrell]

To protect your gear, line the inside of your backpack with a lawn & leaf trash bag. With everything protected inside the trash bag, everything will be completely dry no matter how wet the backpack gets. This is what we use in mountaineering rather than a backpack cover. We go through rain, snow, ice buildup, etc., and no worries.

[@NadineWalks]

Great tips! I think I should experiment with using a pack liner (and I love that a trash bag- a sturdy one- will do the job!)

[@tyraaaaa]

We've done the same thing but with hazmat/clinical waste bags!

[@abukyle1999]

We used waterproof pack liners in the Army. Should be able to get them at a surplus store.

[@rowanmulvey8632]

Trash compactor bags are very puncture proof, fit the inside of a backpack well and last a long time and are inexpensive compared to the price of a pack liner.

[@cltinturkey]

In Italian, "In bocca al lupo" literally means "into the wolf's mouth". It's an idiom used to wish someone good luck. Receiving that necklace from an Italian is definite good luck!

[@gisellaseregni3001]

Also, about talismans. Just Before the uphill to the Irache wine fountain on the Frances there Is a smith workshop: though It sells beautiful things, i had to think of the weight, so I bought a small iron Shell and started wearing It in Santiago and every day since. Not for luck, but to spiritually stay on the camino in my Daily life. Thanks for reviving so many Camino experiences and sharing them

[@mulliedog1]

I used a poncho that was made to cover me and my pack. It worked good. I used a belt to wrap around it to keep the wind from blowing all over the place and it worked well. I used Vaseline on my feet especially around my toes. I wore two pairs of socks. Toes socks covered by wool socks. I didn't have any blister issues. That's my two cents worth! Haha! Buen Camino!!

[@NadineWalks]

Thank you for your insights!! I think this comment section is becoming rich in good advice and tips :)

[@lisablanco9894]

My husband and I walked sections of the Camino Frances in 2018. His pace was much faster than mine so he would go on ahead. When he reached our next stop he would leave his backpack out the front of the cafe/bar with his baseball cap tied on top of his pack. I would recognise his cap (which was unique) and know he was inside. It worked really well. I am now preparing to walk the entire Camino Frances in September but this time I'm going solo. I'll be able to travel at my pace and stop when I want to. Thanks for the great tips :)

[@francefehr429]

Hi Nadine. Another very interesting post with very good questions. So helpful for people who are going to walk on the Camino for the first time. As for me who walked in 2019 (800km-Via Podiensis) I still find it interesting and now because my "little "experience as a pilgrim I am trying to help anyone who is going there this year. Once we have had this unique experience, most of us need to stay connecting one way or the other to the Camino.I really like the part where you talk about walking with someone which I did. My husband and I walk together almost all the time so I am used to his fast pace and he - used that I stop so many times to take pics. He is not complaining. I tell him sometimes that he walks fast but not angry about it as I would not like to walk on my own so we are a good team (especially in France because he doesn't speak French fluently and I do). Rain jacket or poncho. So far I only walk with a rain jacket and rain pants. Next time I would like to have a poncho and not bringing rain pants. Well see ! I do not like walking in the rain at all.The topic about walking with pain ... I did for almost all my journey (39 days) as I didn't know at that time that I had stress fracture on my left foot. I managed with ibuprofen (2 or 3x/day) but still it was difficult. I made the choice to keep going. Interesting is that on the last day in the Pyrenees ( as we ended in Roncesvalles before going back by bus to StJPdP), I did not feel any pain. the beauty of the mountains was magical! I will share this post with a women who is planning her first Camino. Thanks gain for all your dedication in helping other people. 🙂

[@RobertTorres_robtor15]

I walked with my sister-in-law last year on the Camino Ingles and you are right about communication being a big key. We had our tough moments emotionally for our own reasons on the trip but thanks to being able to let the other person know we need some time and space, it never blew up into anything big. It was such a rewarding experience to share with her and we are planning on doing the Camino San Salvador this year thanks to your videos of doing that Camino last year. Thank you for all your videos, they are so great to watch!

[@RC-qf3mp]

I have a great Patagonia outer shell jacket that is good for light rain and has an adjustable hood, high neck protection and vents under the arm pits. I also used a poncho (similar to Altus) which was great for downpours. It added warmth as well which was desired in the Nov-Dec part of my Camino Frances. The real issue is having the right combination of layers that work as a whole for the season/weather you encounter. So the poncho helped me withstand cold weather in the 20s F. And on windy and rainy days, I felt extra protected. In the summer, I’d probably keep the poncho but ditch the outer shell.

[@LogansWanderlust]

Can you pls share the link to your Patagonia jacket?

[@gisellaseregni3001]

My worst injury was falling and hitting very hard on my ribs, that was very painful the first week, but i walked on as It was less painful standing up and going, than taking my pack, removing It or preparing the bed for the night... But bed bugs were a really bad experience. I was covered in bites and scratchy everywhere for two days until the antibiotycs did their job. As you Say, it's part of the experience, you accept it and be grateful to be there notwithstanding

[@RedFlash20000]

I have the same Problem with the Rain, sometimes i get more wet by using the rainjacket because of sweating and humidity than just walking without a jacket. The wind, air and the temperature of my Body is keeping me dry. But if i Start freezing id rather like to put my jacket on. freezing can be dangerous on a Long hike.

[@jamesbaldwin2783]

Babble or Dualingo are great programs to learn basic Spanish. Having lived in Spain for 6 years, I can say that Spanish people appreciate the effort, even if you mess up.

[@carolinesaunders6656]

Hi Nadine, very enjoyable video, thank you. I just want to mention that permethrin will not prevent you from getting bed bugs or bitten. However, it will kill any over 2 or 3 hours, so it can prevent you from spreading the bugs or bringing them home. After experiencing way more than 50 very itchy bites in Reykjavik, I now spray my pack inside and outside. I use dry sacks for my belongings, these I also spray inside and out. I did get a few bites on the Camino Francés last autumn but felt reassured I wouldn't carry the critters alive! I suspect they are not a huge problem on busy Camino routes because there is a lot of knowledge on how to prevent them/deal with them. It's a much newer problem in Iceland!

[@NadineWalks]

Thank you so much for this information, and the correction! (clearly I don't know much about Permethrin!) But it's so helpful and hopefully will help others, too! (and I'm starting to itch myself, just thinking about your experience in Reykjavik!)

[@jameszumwalt3660]

This is wonderful advice. Many thanks for sharing your wisdom and insights.

[@bloodynorahvan2203]

Thanks Nadine another really useful and informative video for the trail-curious 🙂

[@FrScottHikes]

Thank you. The part about walking with a friend or relative really helped. I have a lot of anxiety/questions about hiking with my sister this spring. You helped to clear some of that up.

[@angiebee598]

You could try the Altus Atmospheric long raincoat that covers the backpack as well. It's not a poncho but sometimes people refer to it as such.

[@g.l.murphy9287]

Thank you so much Nadine. Your advice and knowledge is so fantastic. Very much appreciated by someone like me as I still have yet to do a Camino but learning a lot from you.

[@NadineWalks]

You're welcome, I hope to keep making more of these videos!

[@dathang]

My favorite part of this one is the "You just do it!" section. Didn't sip on coffee while watching... but it didn't hamper the experience in the least. :) Cheers and adventure on!

[@briangifford1074]

Thanks for all the info! Truly a great resource. I'm about to start the Camino and the forecast looks VERY wet. I have a poncho that I've always carried backpacking as a "just in case", but I sdded an actual jacket at the last minute. I guess I can now test out both!

[@stevefoster1511]

The mysterious algorithm has led me to your channel. Funny that it's only now I'm seeing it. Have viewed your Portugues walk and now some other. I really enjoy your descriptions and your thoughtfulness and am certain you hare providing aid and comfort to many Pilgrims as a result. Chuckled at your Rain Coat/Pack Rain Cover vs. Poncho discussion. I haven't viewed all the comments here but expect some are similar to my experience. Our 2019 Portugues Camino was characterized mainly by rain. Rain then sun then rain. Whole days of rain without getting out of our rain gear even once. Flooded trail sections requiring detours. Horizontal rain crossing into Viano de Castelo on the infamous (to us) Eiffel Bridge where every tour bus and car added to our misery with direct hits from the massive puddles. We experienced wet packs the first couple of days. As you discuss, the rain ran down my back and despite a rain cover on my pack, it soaked into the pack and everything was wet or damp after a day of that. We purchased cheap ponchos in Esposende. What a difference it made from then on - with the exception of later that day when crossing that Eiffel Bridge in horizontal rain, even the poncho couldn't keep us dry. On the subsequent all-day-long-rain days I frequently wore only the poncho and rain pants and my pack was never wet again. I highly recommend but as you say, each of our Caminos is our own, in every way.

[@mrsbouvier1]

Hi Nadine! Thanks so much for all you share! I’m headed for the Camino Portugués coastal route in April (my first camino!) and after watching you cope with the rain and wind there last year, I assure you I’m planning on using *both* a poncho and rain jacket if needed. I’m a very light packer, but taking those plus some ultralight layers for warmth sound like a must. Oh! And after seeing how stressful it must feel to wonder if your shoes will dry by morning, I ordered some very lightweight hand warmer packets you can activate to stay warm for quite a few hours. A backpacking blogger said if you put them in your shoes overnight they can dry them out. (Plus they’d be great as actual hand warmers!) Thanks again for all your wonderful info!

[@NadineWalks]

The hand warmers in shoes to help them dry is a brilliant idea!! (as is the poncho AND rain jacket). I hope you'll have little-to-no rain on your springtime coastal Portugués, but if you DO have wet weather, it sounds like you will be more prepared than I was! :) Buen Camino!

[@pyronitro]

in scouting, we are told to bring mole skins that you can get from walmart or almost anywhere. Before a hotspot becomes a blister, take care of it by applying the moleskin. its a big relief. also it helps if you test your shoes and break them in. learn to tie your shoe real tight to your feet but still comfy, loose shoes causes blisters. Another blister prevention is to wear a liner sock. Thanks!

[@NadineWalks]

Great blister prevention tips! I know about moleskin but I've never tried it... luckily I don't often get blisters but I should carry some with me just in case!

[@litespeedin]

Hi Nadine, enjoying your videos...they are a wonderful resource! I will be doing the CF starting April 22nd...just bought a Frogg Toggs poncho, though I wouldn't wear it for any other hiking I have done. We shall see if it comes in handy, is easy enough to get to and worth the trouble of putting on. I certainly like the idea of a dry pack!

[@NadineWalks]

I like the idea of a dry pack, too!! Many have recommended using a pack liner (even just a trash bag) inside the pack, and I might try that in the future. But I'm also thinking about testing out a poncho! My current rain jacket just doesn't seem to be doing the job...

[@jackg7225]

I had a raincoat and pants as well as a poncho. I walked the Norte and encountered wet conditions along the coast. I prefer the poncho . As I'm getting ready for the Portuguese, I'll probably leave the rain pants behind and maybe even the raincoat, just depends on pack weight. I just got too hot wearing the pants and coat

[@sharonlivingstone5956]

Loving your Q&A videos!! I'm Team Rain Jacket. I find ponchos flap around and ride up in wind plus rain gets in via the arm holes. And the hood on the poncho never stays in place. Also, throw away the pack cover and use a pack liner - mine is nylofume, super light and durable. Never need to stop and put the cover on, rain doesn't get in and a puddle in the bottom of your pack doesn't mean your stuff gets wet 🙂

[@NadineWalks]

I'm really thinking that I should try out a pack liner, thank you for the recommendation!

[@marybrown8892]

Great information🙌

[@peterfontaine4627]

Nadine--really good discussion! Yes, the bedbug issue really had me freaked out when I first started researching doing the Camino, but now I am trying to sort of put it on a back shelf and not worry about it. I like the necklace story too--I am a big fan of talismans, rituals, and having certain pieces of clothing when I do my backpacking and hiking so I will certainly have something along those lines when I do a Camino. I am team rain jacket. I can see the pros of a poncho, but it also seems kind of awkward/cumbersome in comparison to a jacket. I am planning on doing the Camino--probably Portuguese from Lisbon--by myself. One question I had was I know that when you get to an albergue there is a certain process/protocol/agenda/tasks, but could you maybe describe that again? What exactly happens at the end of a long day of walking, and you arrive at the albergue and ask if there is a room available? What happens at the front desk? What usually comes next as you move into getting situated, cleaned up and set up for the night?

[@NadineWalks]

I love this question and I think many people may be curious about the albergue process/protocol (I know that I certainly was before my first Camino!) I'll try to answer this in the next video :)

[@Rkolb2798]

Walking with someone who is slower is somewhat difficult , also someone who wants to stop constantly can be a strain 😊

[@NadineWalks]

Yes, and I've found that if I spend too long walking at a much slower pace (or, what is unnatural for me), it can actually strain my body a bit!

[@RC-qf3mp]

Question: do you get the post-Camino blues after arriving home? How do you cope with that? How has the Camino changed your “normal” life? I’m now obsessed with socks and shoes, and avoiding blisters and strengthening my feet. And I wear hiking clothes in normal day to day life and feel like I’m preparing for my next Camino, even though there are now plans.

[@NadineWalks]

Ooh, such good questions! (I definitely get the Camino blues after returning home, it happens every year but I've gotten a bit better at managing them. They hit me HARD after my first Camino!)

[@johnavery5384]

Hi. I am a big fan of the Sea to Summit poncho. Lightweight and covers me and the rucksack. I always have some cordage which I use as a belt to since it from flapping in a strong wind. The cord also doubles as a washing line.

[@NadineWalks]

I like the double use of the cord for securing your poncho AND use as a washing line!

[@williamhecht984]

Also, some ightweight carabiners are useful to keep the poncho down and not flapping :)

[@dunringill100]

Hello…..these videos are fun and informative…..thanks so much ! A couple more questions…. - Gortex layer in your shoes or wet feet….what’s your opinion? - what do you use for hand washing clothes…..Camp Suds, Laundry Bar, some Shampoo, other? - There is way too much pilgrim debris along the trail, particularly on the Frances, people don’t seem to realize that it can take years for a simple tissue or discarded face mask to break down and decompose….how can we get the message across to people to ‘leave no trace’? - Have you ever found your professional counselling training and skills of use on the trail in helping fellow peregrinos ?

[@NadineWalks]

Great questions!! I'm adding them to a list and will try to answer them soon :)

[@julierawlins5984]

Altus brand poncho highly recommend

[@NadineWalks]

I think if I ever buy a poncho, that's the brand I'd go with! I've also heard great things.

[@StewartWilner]

Don't forget a rain kilt! Much better in most conditions than rain pants (which are inconvenient to put on/take off in the middle of the day). Also, the ultimate answer to the age-old question of rain jacket vs poncho is: umbrella.

[@NadineWalks]

A rain kilt! So many options I haven't considered! And an umbrella is a great idea, though I think I'd have to rig up some way to attach it to my pack, I'm afraid I'd get too tired of holding onto it

[@StewartWilner]

@@NadineWalks lots of ultralight options. My umbrella is from z-packs, but there are many others. It ends up not being tiresome to carry it, although you can also attach it to your pack. I mostly use my umbrella as a way to protect myself from the sun. It makes the days much easier, and I am much less tired at the end of a sunny day if I am using my umbrella.

[@johngauthier5145]

Your videos are great and very helpful as I prepare for my first Camino! One thing I haven't seen anyone address or ask about is: what do you do for cell service... do you buy a local sim card or just go use data roaming? Any tips would be super appreciated. Thanks! 🙏

[@gisellaseregni3001]

If you are a european Citizen you Will do with your normal SIM. Otherwise add roaming in Spain to your card. Anyway, you do not Need the phone during the day, the way Is well indicated. So use It only for pictures and when in the albergue use their wifi. Only few albergues don't have It. When It happens, enjoy the evening with other pilgrims and do not worry. In case of emergencies, you May ask local pilgrims to use their mobile. Buen camino!

[@secondtimearound4761]

Hi Nadine. I’m walking French route this March April 3rd Camino . When are you next there! Buen Camino

[@idaleung8003]

Thank you

[@chaddventures]

I've had jacked up feet on both my caminos and I just kept going. Pushed through and made it to Santiago and the Ocean both times

[@NadineWalks]

It's kind of amazing what we can do, when we really put our minds to it, isn't it? Sometimes, of course, we need to stop (if there's a risk of greater injury, illness)... but often the pain is something that we can mentally overcome.

[@cltinturkey]

Do you travel with a sleep sack? If so, is it mostly made from silk? Supposedly, that's a good protection/barrier from bed bugs getting to your skin.

[@stinestoraasbaska9450]

Just wonder if you have covered stretching pre and after waking?

[@ferdibra]

Thanks for putting the “bedbugs” into perspective. I think a couple of KZbin clips exploit bedbugs to get views.

[@jeremywilliams703]

My wife and I walked the Portuguese from Lisbon. At the last minute one of my daughters decided to join us and walk for a local charity. She can’t eat bread, it makes her sick. Something we didn’t discuss before the pilgrimage. It drove us nuts every morning skipping from cafe to cafe asking “Ovo? Ovo? Ovo?”! It wasted a lot of time and interrupted the routine of rising, packing, taking coffee/toast and rolling out of town. Just saying... ✌️❤️🙏🇦🇺

[@NadineWalks]

Yes, there are unexpected things that you never would have thought to plan for or discuss beforehand!

[@user-jl7nn8iq2v]

Hi I'm team umbrella 🌂. Game changer!

[@NadineWalks]

One day I'll try out an umbrella...

[@ronskelly]

Hi Nadine...thank you very much for these 2 Q&A videos...very helpful advice for upcoming Portuguese walk. Question...went for a camino talk at a local hiking supply store and the speaker mentioned that she always rubs Vaseline on her feet each morning before walking to avoid blisters. Do you have any experience with this? RonS

[@NadineWalks]

I'll answer this in an upcoming video!!

[@Rkolb2798]

Not probably the best place to ask , but maybe you could give us an insight to your perception of time on Camino . Do you work on a natural cycle. IE eat when your hungry etc or do you stick to a regular clock type schedule ?

[@NadineWalks]

Ooh, very interesting question! I'll add it to the list :)

[@diannea957]

I had one person recommend I bring an ultra sound dog repeller because some of the farm dogs can be very aggressive. I would appreciate if you think this is a real issue and if I should bring one.

[@NadineWalks]

I'll try to talk about this on my next Q&A! (I think, at times dogs CAN be an issue, but not a big one and I don't necessarily think you'd need to bring something like that. But I'll elaborate more soon!)

[@vitorluis]

Hey, Nadine. First of all, thanks for all the information you shared on the channel. I'm almost a month from my first Camino and your's videos/blog are very helpfull. My question is: I suppose not, but are you a religious/spiritual pilgrim ? Do you have/feel any spiritual experiences when walking the Camino ?

[@NadineWalks]

I think I'm a sort of spiritual pilgrim, slightly religious but it's not why I walk (and yet, it plays a role when I'm there)

[@vitorluis]

@@NadineWalks Oh, very interesting. Thanks for the response. Would love to hear more of this side of your caminos if you feel confortable about it 😀.

[@anneroberts6101]

Hi Nadine, great videos. I am a shy person, do you have any tips on how to start conversations and join different groups?

[@NadineWalks]

I'll try to answer that in an upcoming video- I'm shy too, but I've managed to meet a lot of people on the Camino!

[@patrickmooney4135]

Question(s): In your experience, which airports are the best for coming and going? Will the Spanish be annoyed if you give their cat or dog a treat or snack? Any more word on the wild boar situation? Is it wrong to indiscriminately hand out trail names to unsuspecting people based upon your favorite breakfast cereals? Sorry, I was thinking about Corn Pop. Yeah, you don't have to answer that one. Will you ever break down and buy yourself a set of hiking poles or are you dedicated to finding a useful stick along the way? Thanks.

[@NadineWalks]

Great questions!! (I laughed at the trail name one... for better or worse, trail names aren't common on the Camino! But if they were, my name would be 'Lucky Charm') I have no idea how owners might feel about feeding their dog/cat a treat. Hmm, good question! And I'll try to answer some of the other questions in an upcoming video :)

[@patrickmooney4135]

@@NadineWalks I hope you don’t mind, but I would dub thee, “Sticks” because according to your videos, you don’t bring any walking sticks with you but find one along the way…which means you must always be on the lookout for one…a good one. You could of course feel free to change it to “Styx” because of your love of the classic 1970’s band and their best songs “Babe” and “Come Sail Away” which are most assuredly at the top of your favorite Camino play list for walking. And also, this would allow you to put a sweet Styx patch onto your backpack… Then again, you might grow tired of hikers serenading you with, “Lady! When you're with me I'm smiling… ” So to counter that, you could choose to go by “Miss Styx”… or “Mystyx” and be all mysterious while being on the trail… like Stevie Nicks… Which brings us oddly back to “Lucky Charms"... Huh... But because I’m incredibly lazy, “Charms” it is. Yeah, I apologize. I thought YT would have a character limit on these comments. Good to know. 😀

[@charsiu808]

what was the average costs to hike the Camino?

[@NadineWalks]

It depends! I can try to address this in a future video but... I think if you stay in albergues, take a picnic lunch and/or cook dinner, 25-35 euros/day would probably be an average amount. Municipal albergues are cheaper (around 10 euros, sometimes less), and some private albergues can be around 15 euros, maybe up to 20. So there's a range! If you do multiple coffee/alcohol stops, eat a menu del dia lunch, a pilgrim's menu for dinner, your average might be closer to 40 euros/day. And if you stay in private rooms then that number will be higher, maybe 50-60 euros (or more, of course depending on the type of place where you stay).

[@jag3799]

Hi Nadine, I finished up Del Norte (including Cape Finisterre) November. Also hiked TMB, Madeira and parts of North Africa while there as well. Wanted to throw in that I've been in the rain slicks camp for years as I've found it much more versatile plus i don't like the flapping around of a poncho. Question for your next Q&A- There are many solo hikers I've met along the way. I am a staunch solo trekker primarily because I enjoy the liberty of being absolutely spontaneous, ie left del Norte at Ribadeo , to hike the TMB once open then came back to Spain. Why do you trek alone?

[@NadineWalks]

Ah, great question, I'll try to answer it in an upcoming video!

[@joniirvin1469]

Thank you for another informative session Nadine! I’m wondering about contact home. Walking alone, I’ll let people at home that I’m ok. What is the cell reception/ Wi-Fi situation while there? ☺️

[@NadineWalks]

I can expand on this in an upcoming video, but if you're on a more popular Camino route, the cell reception will be very good, and there is wi-fi in nearly all albergues and most bars/restaurants!

[@joniirvin1469]

@@NadineWalks thank you! And I’ll watch for your video! I’m hearing things like needing SIM card so I just want to be sure I can make minimal contact home.

[@davidrauth9816]

walks with wolves

[@laurena719]

I suffer from shin splints

[@davidrauth9816]

she who walks with wolves

[@johnbutler8998]

Having your mobile phone and Google translate can help with a lack of Spanish - particularly if you need to have trickier conversations where the standard Camino vocab isn't sufficient.

[@johnbutler8998]

Just in terms of dealing with the pain, one thing I learned that was a bit of surprise was that things don't necessarily get worse and worse and worse - which was a big fear for me after a few days when things seemed to be going wrong. Your body gets more resilient as you go, and you also problem solve by getting in contact with pharmacies/doctors/other pilgrims :)

[@robinharbidge5694]

I carry a rain jacket and a poncho and use a 60 litre Aarn back pack which is highly waterproof. Your question re dealing with pain/inconveniences is an interesting one; you will no doubt encounter them but a normally resilient and intelligent person will endure partly because of all the “feel good” endorphins that the physical experience will generate. I did suffer badly with blisters for about a week but then my Camino angel popped up and gave me a jar of Vicks Vapor rub with instructions to apply liberally to my feet; in two days no problem! I always use it now. I have always walked with family or friends but I have found that with some understanding and patience it has worked really well and has become part of the family folklore. When I walked with my son we would be together morning, night 22:40 and evening. One evening my son suggested that we don’t need to have dinner together each night. I agreed and we went our separate ways. Half an hour later “hey dad, do you mind if I join you”. Having said all this I realise that the Camino is not for all of us but I do love it , pain and all.

[@NadineWalks]

Yes, great information, thank you for mentioning it!

[@NadineWalks]

I love this point, that the pain doesn't necessarily get worse and worse, and that our body strengthens as we continue!

[@arunanababsing5708]

I wanted to know whether the probability of you dying while doing the camino is very high?

[@NadineWalks]

Very, very, very low