Bedford Fire Department: Structure Fire 1/9/2012, From RIT - to 1st In

1242hrs- Bedford Communicatons alerted Companies 8 (Moneta), 13 (Stewartsville-Chamblissburg-2nd due), and 1 (Bedford-RIT) to 8646 Dickerson Mill Road for fire in the attic of a private dwelling. Medic 14-8 was the first to arrive to find heavy fire showing from the roof on sides Alpha and Bravo. Wagon 1 (with three) arrived next at 1250hrs and began stretching a line into the interior as Fire Attack Group 1. Engine 13 arrived just behind W-1 and established Dickerson Mill Road command. Ladder 1 (with six) arrived and began the primary search and controlling utilities. The fire was marked under control at 1317hrs. All searches proved negative. Units operating: W-1, E-13, L-1, W-83, W-13, R-8, T-1, T-7, T-10, T-12, Air One, Medic 14-8, Medic 14-13, and County 10. Total Company 1 personnel on scene: 11.

[@erihep2714]

Thank you for the ones that have put kind comments, but for some this was our home... My grandmother was on o2 and was lucky a passerby helped her and my mother in law out that home! Bedford county did a great job saving a lot of our belongings. It may have not been top notch but our grandfather built our home. Im thankful my kids where in shool and my family got out safe! Yes we lost memories but i still have my family! No we cant replace some things but you cant replace family. Im thankful for what we have we work hard. For the rude obnoxious comments i wouldnt wish this on yall but live in our shoes and see how it would feel!

[@wduane2807]

I am so sorry for your loss but glad everyone made it out ok. Were there any pets in the house? What was the cause of the fire?

[@JB91710]

Erin The vast majority of people are short sighted and narrow minded. They don't watch these videos and THINK of these houses as being their own when they type their comments.

[@janclendenin5407]

God bless you and your family!

[@randallbanks1589]

So sorry for your loss. I get sick and tired of all these negative comments as well. People don't realize a few things. You are NOT near a fire department, and I'm sure that, given the size of Bedford it's all Volunteer. I grew up in a small Michigan town and currently live in one. It can take a while for crews to arrive. I think they did a pretty good job considering.

[@larryrwendelljr4465]

Whether you complain or not, Fire Fighters go after the fire, but under orders from their chief. I'm not a fire fighter, but I have a lot of respect for them. They are not paid enough for the work do and continue to serve their communities. I take my hat off to them all!

[@JohnPhillips-gp7nn]

This is one of the few I might say to many Indians and not enough chiefs. Hell of an attack, image what some coordination may of done. Great job interior crews

[@yankee1209]

Survey says: The guys on the yellow line are completely useless and should save their energy to pack hose for the guys that actually do the firefighting. Nice work to the guys on the orange line. You need to be aggressive if you ever want to save anything but a cellar.

[@bitethedevil]

My dad was a volunteer for our fire Dept during the 50's and 60's. They had to assist another township at a house fire. When they pulled up, all that other township firefighters were outside spraying water. Our township firefighters, got the hoses and went inside and the fire was under control and extinguished in minutes. And this was before air tanks and masks.

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

Thats bullshit.

[@robertgildea2841]

The firefighters did their best. My prayer for the fire victim.id the Lord Jesus will give the person that lost everything his comfort and strength~

[@theone2225]

loving the guys who decide to fix the hose after its been charged yet stood there staring at it before it was charged like itd untangle itself lol

[@nathanbeal8577]

Need more pressure!!! Lay the hose right the first time and you would have it.

[@1Helmet1]

I don't have a problem with attacking after a partial roof collapse. Sometimes those are easier (visibility) and quicker to knock down because of access to the attic. But it is awfully hard to fight a fire with two cowboys and nine kink-chasers. You've got a ripping structure fire fifteen feet behind you and you're going to put water on the lawn fire? Really? Props to the guys on the orange line.

[@NorthShoreFire3]

You were flowing two 1 3/4 lines.Hit it big from the start with the 2 1/2 and get the bulk of the fire knocked out quick then go to work with the 1 3/4. A constuctive criticism is all.

[@ffandrewd2986]

Nice. They did do a great job with what they had!

[@littleblitz8239]

FF w/ fog pattern gettin more done than the straight streamer. Can't understand why everyone uses a str stream most all the time...yes for distance, ok, but up close & personal, I'll use a fog pattern LittleBlitz 85 LZVFD Ret

[@riseagan]

The fire that he put out was just in the eves. If you're fighting a well established fire, a fog patter won't have the ability to penetrate and be effective. The heat will cause the individual water droplets to evaporate before it has any real effect. A lot of departments around where Im from are doing away with the combination nozzles and switching back to smooth bore and solid streams for actual suppression.

[@mrcrazy051]

I like the comment even though I've been inactive since 2010 never saw a officer do a 360, no rehab after guys came out and not even a staging area for fresh firefighters to wait for assignment. Then the two guys come out after being inside for new bottles really that's just stupid and dangerous especially when there's enough firefighter's on scene to rotate them in/out.

[@erickaegi629]

For some reason the insurance companies seem to think that using a fog. Pattern causes more damage which I think is a crock of bull!

[@ericpl7227]

Fog patter produces smaller droplets of water! Smaller droplets of water evaporate quicker and are gone before they reach the fire! Straight stream produces larger droplets of water, therefore the water actually gets TO the fire!

[@JasmineLindros]

@@ericpl7227 If the fire is ten feet in front of your nozzle, a solid stream will splash all over YOU without putting much wet stuff on the red stuff. For short range, a fog pattern does the most suppression with the least amount of wasted water. The initial attack looked effective, wide pattern on the front of the house and eaves, solid (-ish) stream through the windows into the room beyond.

[@ccfd90765]

good job. the way you did it put the fire out and saved what you could of the structure and contents. could have chased the line a bit better but you got water on the fire.

[@bedfordfd]

Didn't have the water supply to support 2 1/2 operations.

[@ranger6x660]

A house is NOT worth a life.

[@scottdore4458]

I'd be putting monitors either mobile or deck guns and dragon slayer lines and knocking down the bulk and then send the crew to dig out hot spots every area does things certain ways and I was here I'm just glad home occupants escaped and all firefighters made it home be safe out there and stay low and thanks for posting the video on here

[@scottdore4458]

Wasn't not here

[@freeamericausa1]

Those men inside should have been called out when the front half of the roof collapsed. Sounded like the engineer on the first in pumper was the only one running the show, while many of the THUMBS wandered around, waiting for somebody to tell them NEED MORE LINE. Training GUYS. TRAINING PAYS, AND SAVES YOUR LIFE.

[@danielheartsill4269]

You talk about your home not being top notch. That was incorrect as it looks like a happy home with lots of love. That is the best anyone can expect. Being happy, warm in winter, dry, cool in summer is top notch. Many look to a fancy house for happy and in many cases it just isn't there. I myself rather be happy with lots of love. God bless.

[@poe2318]

Great knock guys. Bravo.

[@TheTigger7019]

What a group these guys are :X

[@shuckyducky11]

Why this crew made an interior attack after a partial roof collapse is beyond my comprehension. There is no rescue so there is no need to risk firefighters for a house that will be demolished. Hit it with a deck gun and mop it up.

[@jeffreyarnoldjr1086]

Ahhh, it's nice to see people who know how to fight fire for a change!

[@JB91710]

Jeffery Wake UP Call! I think you need to read my comments above.

[@ffandrewd2986]

@@JB91710 wake up call! You need to shut your mouth

[@ericluebke2430]

This a training video for what not to do at a fully involved structure fire

[@joeburke8370]

The one without the green skyline postpones only the shoes for sale unknown to anyone

[@robertrosa6374]

NICE take down gentlemen!

[@JB91710]

Nice mediocre take down.

[@ffandrewd2986]

@@JB91710 again? You? Dude, they were working with low water supply.

[@rodhard688]

Poor showing all the way around! Poor attach, big hoses more water!

[@rodhard688]

SB Poor attack.

[@robertrosa6374]

poor attack my ass!

[@edwardherbert7280]

I agree. That initial attack needed a Deuce, And A Half to start off. Structural Compromise, and Orange Nozzle still made an Interior Attack, It's His Funeral.

[@l1officer]

It was dispatched as a fire that had spread to the attic.

[@danielthomas4652]

Please elaborate why they didn't do a good job?

[@ffandrewd2986]

Exactlyyyy

[@dariusfrazier9703]

Now thats how u fight a fire im starting my firefighter journey hope to work with firermens like this

[@victoriacoleman7496]

Not how you fight a fire. Nothing about this was smart.

[@antoniusmilesdale6120]

Then you do is better.. Let's see it Ms. Knowitall. @@victoriacoleman7496

[@davemarshall706]

Never step inside that house. Poor safety. Sorry.

[@Blazefork]

Good stop guys!

[@discgolfer78]

great job to everyone on bedford fd awesome

[@ltphillips6230]

Risk little to save little. I'm not much in surround and drown but in this case it would be appropriate.

[@JB91710]

Obviously wasn't Your house and You possessions!

[@TheMongothetrucker]

Definitely a surround and drown, interior attack was out of scope of risk/reward.

[@JB91710]

If that was Your house, would you want Your possessions to burn in the right half?

[@redbug3777]

Good vid! 🚒🌊

[@skiqsr]

Willing, Working crews need the best direction from management outside.

[@kither04]

Why would they enter when back half of the roof has collapsed and the front looks like it is sagging? Obviously the house is a loss. Why risk full collapse on your head?

[@greg19902011]

That was badass i like the dual attack teams from the get but why did it take so long to get water to those guys? there were 4 of em just standing there they could have flacked out their lines s you could get the water to them. but after you got your ater supply established yall did freaking awesome

[@chosenone1004]

I couldn't even finish watching that video. I don't like the lives of firefighters being put at risk . There's no life threat inside this dwelling and you already have more then half of the roof collapsed so why would you risk putting them guys inside of that place ? The house is a loss . They should have been pulled out . Senseless

[@alwicks135]

***** how about 343 fireman that died in one day.....is that number enough for you?

[@patgeorge1]

It doesn't make any difference to the sicko mrm as that was " a one off" but keep up the good work ( Fire Fighters worldwide)

[@JB91710]

Trouble You don't know construction. They were perfectly safe in there. Even in the left side for a while. If the ceiling joists haven't burned through, they will carry the roof debris. What these guys needed was a Push from a Leader to get up to the window and door and kick the fire in the ass instead of holding back so long.

[@fxrforever6807]

There you go !!!

[@JB91710]

Dennis If that was Your house, would you want Your possessions to burn in the right half?

[@RCFDvolunteer]

What was the GPM for this house?

[@jlm993]

a 2.5 line flowing 325 gpm would for 10 seconds would knock that fire down 75%. still leave plenty of tank to take a 1.75 and put the fire down

[@ctitown4488]

Orange strip, red hat big fella, do something like help pull hose. Pull those men out. No need for them to be in there.

[@thenussbaum44]

Can anyone run a pump, give them some pressure. Most of these fire videos show lines with no pressure.

[@cstoner15]

ronymexico1, you have an awful a lot to say on a topic you apparently don't understand very well. If you could read and comprehend the description of the video you would know they were dispatched as RIT on the initial assignment. They arrived first and pulled a line. They didn't have a water supply so a deck gun would have been great for about 30 seconds. The department is a great, aggressive department. I was not interior nor was I there, but they've seen enough fire to know when to evacuate.

[@herve30able1]

Wow. What I can see is plenty of firemen walking around here and there. Like ants moving around the building tossing the hoses all the time, putting a ladder without purpose. Going in and out without good reasons. Yeah ! Like a bunch of soldiers without heads… Let the house burns ! It is a lost anyway...

[@JB91710]

cstoner The deck gun could have knocked the major fire out with 5 seconds of tank water before the video started.

[@proteen545]

HOW many fires where there I saw 2!!!

[@lizareed54]

That home is tooo well involved with fire

[@MrProfire]

As they would say on duck dynasty "she's gone"

[@ffandrewd2986]

Well, yea

[@ericpl7227]

Don't they teach firefighters how to flake out hose anymore?!

[@mrdjdrenalin]

I'd be more worried about the Grass fire out the back, this structure is well alight, just surround and drown haha

[@douggriffin2910]

should've put 3 master streams on it right away and blitzed the be-jesus out of it.

[@ffandrewd2986]

They didn’t have the water supply for big hoses

[@mikemiller9119]

Who’s the guy walking around in orange like he’s walking around his front yard with his bath robe open? Is he on a lunch break, because whatever he’s doing doesn’t seem to be happening.

[@jlm993]

400gpm for the whole house

[@freeamericausa1]

I didn't know the Keystone Cops were still around.

[@TylersNeighborhoodGarage]

Bet that was a chimney fire since there is smoke coming out of a crack in the chimney itself.

[@markmurphy6701]

I will never understand why they have to go making up Fire hoses have the ever heared of first aid reals? If you look at any UK fire trucks water on as they leave the fire truck. Granted they still make up lines to get lerge volumes. But Fire are under control while US FF are still makeing up? Maybe I can learn somthing new? over to you!

[@Howard3S]

Unoccupied, once the roof structure comes down its time to retreat and regroup. Going inj and standing under that structure and getting trapped, then more firefighters have to go in. First job - don't become a liability, Ok, I watched some more of the video. If I was the incident commander watching this afterwards, I wouild not want to be explaining why half my crew was well inside that structure seeing what the camera sees. Or, ho rah, JOhn Wayne fire fighting?

[@skiqsr]

SO right... management failed!!!

[@SC-us1hs]

don't worry sir,we saved your leaves!

[@larrystultz7237]

you are correct...but,sh*t will happen....

[@fcinternetmarketing]

That's badly burnt.

[@JB91710]

The truck has onboard water. The engineer activates the pump and hits the Visible Burning Material with the Deck Gun for 5 seconds to knocked the legs out from under it. They are probably bring their own water so they need to THINK of where every drop goes. Neither of these guys on the nozzles has a clue how to stop this fire. The one on the right Wasted his water on the outside of the building while the guy on the left used a straight stream that does not cover enough burning material to even slow this down. One should have hit the window and the other the door with 35% cones FROM CLOSE RANGE! When they finally knock down the first floor flames using double the water they should have, they stand in the same spots and continue hosing down the same material. The guy in the orange helmet is a worthless human. 3:55 How much water does he have to put in one spot? The guy in the red helmet is useless as he has a great view if the attic fire and can direct orange helmet to move to the left so he can get a direct shot into the attic on Burning Material! Some lessons to be learned here!

[@ffandrewd2986]

Keep in mind that the red helmet is on a lower plane then the camera. If you lower the camera down to his level, you probably couldn’t see it.

[@ronymexico1]

if youneed a rit team for an exterior attack, you better go back to school

[@ffandrewd2986]

You always need a rit team. Always. If the structure collapsed etc

[@janeparker1475]

So sad 🙏🏻

[@TheYoucantbeserious]

Build quality of houses in America are bad, which doesn't help things. Fire fighters in the uk and Europe will enter a building even if there is nothing else at risk due to being able to rebuild the damaged part of the building. So by looking at these videos and i have viewed a lot. It appears that..if there is no one or nothing at risk. Then. Fuck it let it burn? Surely the more they can save...the more the owners can rebuild?

[@JB91710]

Gus If that was Your house, would you want Your possessions to burn in the right half?

[@jonnybabe2233]

I hate to comment on these videos but come on guys pull a 2 1/2 your just fooling the public!

[@robertrosa6374]

Did they have a 2-1/2. But my question.

[@Blazefork]

Could their water supply support it?

[@SmokeyTheBearE4]

powder keg...

[@billmahnken915]

P

[@jonnybabe2233]

2 1/2 anybody

[@ffandrewd2986]

Didn’t have the water supply to support 2 1/2 ops

[@Speeddemon3]

I hope they're volunteer. I wouldn't pay them. Everybody standing around while the place goes back up again. Wth?

[@jays106]

I believe they ran out of water

[@memphise34a]

Sissies.

[@ffandrewd2986]

Stfu

[@herve30able1]

Amateurish !

[@paulstephens7532]

Fzv

[@raypugh3267]

Looks like it needed burnt!!!