Smash Ultimate - Shield Tilting and In-Shield SDI

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@BeefySmashDoods
@BeefySmashDoods 5 жыл бұрын
Leffen just tweeted ROB might be the best character?? He probably saw this video ;) ► kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4q4oJuFidahbck
@KrAceZ
@KrAceZ 5 жыл бұрын
Well this is definitely a welcome change
@suprm3405
@suprm3405 5 жыл бұрын
In deed
@Mango-cw4tm
@Mango-cw4tm 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly doesn’t surprise me
@betchaos7383
@betchaos7383 5 жыл бұрын
Leffen said something vaguely related to something you said? You better copystrike him Instead of using this opportunity to reference your own video.
@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 5 жыл бұрын
no hes not but falco tho...
@failboat
@failboat 5 жыл бұрын
Shield spinning is just the newest quickplay taunt tech tbh
@poisonedmaple6874
@poisonedmaple6874 5 жыл бұрын
eyyy it's failboat
@papertiger4525
@papertiger4525 5 жыл бұрын
Especially with the Pits. Did you SEE that staff twirling BS?
@3lectronX
@3lectronX 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol
@icicleditor
@icicleditor 5 жыл бұрын
Picked it up before the vid lol
@tomjackal5708
@tomjackal5708 5 жыл бұрын
since they removed _actual moves with hitboxes_ yeah
@amazinblasian117
@amazinblasian117 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important part about Shield Tilting: in Quickplay, shield dancing is the best substitute for taunting for most characters.
@spyciramen6856
@spyciramen6856 5 жыл бұрын
yes other than t bagging it make your opponents "tilted" and end up throwing the match because of unsafe options with their salt best mindgame imo dont forget to mixup with t bagging as it could have a greater effect on them,
@PalPlays
@PalPlays 5 жыл бұрын
That Snake hip wiggle instantly made him jump to B tier of the taunt tier list.
@oasis9009
@oasis9009 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Do not EVER teabag. It doesn’t make your opponent more likely to be reckless. It makes your opponent hate you and stops them by having a good time, and isn’t that what Smash, and all video games, are all about?
@hahahaani
@hahahaani 5 жыл бұрын
@@spyciramen6856 after teabagging an inkling that was spamming bombs all game, they actually tried to approach with a dash attack rather than staying on the opposite side of the stage
@hahahaani
@hahahaani 5 жыл бұрын
@@oasis9009 I teabag projectile spammers and from my experience it can help in making them approach.
@snipersev0743
@snipersev0743 5 жыл бұрын
Dark pit's shield tilt animation looks cool
@Cammycam1000
@Cammycam1000 5 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of those people who are so high they're hand dancing
@prestige8477
@prestige8477 5 жыл бұрын
Woah! That IS pretty cool!
@ArylBarrel
@ArylBarrel 5 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaa
@mrgoosej
@mrgoosej 4 жыл бұрын
And pit’s
@collinkeepers7996
@collinkeepers7996 5 жыл бұрын
That SDI during parry was sick
@anyapeanutlover
@anyapeanutlover 5 жыл бұрын
I like how (Dark) Pit spins his weapon whenever you Shield Tilting.
@yoshka1038
@yoshka1038 5 жыл бұрын
3:15 Hoyoyoyooooooo!! (Brawl side B)
@koopakape
@koopakape 5 жыл бұрын
Still wish dark pit had brawl pit's moveset
@timothygooding9544
@timothygooding9544 5 жыл бұрын
they removed it because it was annoying in low level and useless in high level with SDI existing
@iamlittlepon9548
@iamlittlepon9548 5 жыл бұрын
Those words were so powerful i could hear them
@thedarkyoshi1337
@thedarkyoshi1337 5 жыл бұрын
You actually can jump out of the double shield if you press the jump and attack buttons. This can help you buffer a directional airiel without the risk of dodging.
@bloodwormosu3
@bloodwormosu3 5 жыл бұрын
multishining?
@irok1
@irok1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@waveplasma1369
@waveplasma1369 5 жыл бұрын
Welp, might as well press all the buttons now
@laggalot1012
@laggalot1012 5 жыл бұрын
I found with certain specific characters that ordinarily using the shorthop attack shortcut out of shield gets unintended results, such as Samus (becomes Zair for some reason), but doing it out of double-shield gets the correct input. Might be interesting.
@waveplasma1369
@waveplasma1369 5 жыл бұрын
@@laggalot1012 Normally Shield + Attack = Grab, so maybe the double shield causes the shield to be a separate input to the attack button
@Takujaki
@Takujaki 5 жыл бұрын
shield SDI could be a counter against some crossups that can be a game changer in some matchups in the future
@colinfliegt8091
@colinfliegt8091 5 жыл бұрын
FINALLY i know something about smash before beefy smash doods uploaded it
@ajdyasgen
@ajdyasgen 5 жыл бұрын
Because BSD Izaw say that weeks ago in his video about the basics
@IAMTHESLIME_
@IAMTHESLIME_ 5 жыл бұрын
same, learned it myself fooling around
@holidayoreoreal
@holidayoreoreal 5 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Razhregus
@Razhregus 5 жыл бұрын
I saw it in the Smash tips in-game. Actually kind of useful. Also where I learned that Simon’s jab1 works like Melee Shiek’s side b.
@thelads1525
@thelads1525 5 жыл бұрын
It's in the smash 4 tips too I'm really surprised this wasn't known about
@ThatOneScienceGuy
@ThatOneScienceGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I like how when you shield there’s a cloud of dust on the ground as if the shield is just a deflating balloon.
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 5 жыл бұрын
this is definitely something worth knowing even if you dont use it all of the time, just for those really tense moments where your trying to think up a way to get the edge at high percent. or tilt the shield as a clutch way to save you from a killing blow.
@reidmccants624
@reidmccants624 5 жыл бұрын
Yes more options means more skill gaps means more tactical and optimized gameplay. which is very fun to watch, the skill of top players just moving the control stick in just the right way at just the right time to get one extra advantage over their opponent creates tension in a match and that’s what we can all love about the game.
@luckygonzalez9377
@luckygonzalez9377 5 жыл бұрын
The new online taunt
@user-kh2ms3pm4m
@user-kh2ms3pm4m 5 жыл бұрын
only dedede's taunt left in ultimate
@luckygonzalez9377
@luckygonzalez9377 5 жыл бұрын
@Mohammed Barwani That's why it's even more disrespectful
@gravity8120
@gravity8120 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. If nothing else, I'll make use of this just to see Pit/Dark Pit twirl their bow around.
@illuzions1615
@illuzions1615 5 жыл бұрын
OMG this is so useful. You don't know how many times I've accidentally input rolls while I'm in sheild. This will really help me
@PassTheSnails
@PassTheSnails 5 жыл бұрын
I discovered a few weeks ago on my own that pit will spin his palutena bow whenever you shield tilt and I’m so glad that BFD are showing the public en masse now so I don’t have to frantically run around telling people by myself
@NobleRenegade
@NobleRenegade 5 жыл бұрын
In case you were wondering, this is why Lucina/Marth Sheild Breaker and certain smash attacks can be aimed up or down in this game
@lollol-it4nw
@lollol-it4nw 5 жыл бұрын
I liked the deltarune music at the end 😀
@blitzen8876
@blitzen8876 5 жыл бұрын
found the person who only comments on the music not the video
@Luigikid
@Luigikid 5 жыл бұрын
If you master all these techs, you are beast!
@fireblaze8909
@fireblaze8909 5 жыл бұрын
Yooo this actually useful as hell
@trunkskoolkid
@trunkskoolkid 5 жыл бұрын
FireBlaze 890 how so?
@fireblaze8909
@fireblaze8909 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Johnson cuz I use it to bait and a bit of Jank. I tried it in a match where I shield spin to confuse people. U gotta do it right so u don’t get grabbed
@Justeego
@Justeego 5 жыл бұрын
I was on the verge of replaying that only maybe top 10 player in the world can take advantage of shield SDI, than you said it, very nice video as always
@koopakape
@koopakape 5 жыл бұрын
That field of hopes and dreams remix at the end.... Can't believe you got insider info of the Kris DLC
@elim9054
@elim9054 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know about SDI in shield stun, but shield tilting looks like it will be extremely useful given how prevalent shield pokes are in this game. Parry SDI seems like a subtle optimization, but people will think it's hype because it's specifically about optimizing punishes.
@sourthecat
@sourthecat 5 жыл бұрын
The way you say "Special" is just so satisfying somehow. Your tutorials are so useful and straight to the point as well! Thank you!
@Aego384
@Aego384 5 жыл бұрын
New advanced tech: Dark Pit's bow spinner
@salj.5459
@salj.5459 5 жыл бұрын
3:16 That’s pretty cool. Didn’t know Pit and Dark Pit did that.
@jrdatz
@jrdatz 5 жыл бұрын
should be noted that if marth or lucina catch you holding shield too long or low on shield, and you don't tilt shield down or up, we will shield break you with neutral B as it's a new mechanic that we can change the direction of neutral B
@celphdstruct1580
@celphdstruct1580 5 жыл бұрын
that in shield sdi explains so much on why im perfectly spaced out for an attack out of shield and sometimes just out of range thanks! good vid
@SteelWolf8
@SteelWolf8 5 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure i saw a clip of this somewhere else but if youre shielding an attack and tilt the shield away from your opponent you can actually cause your hitbox to move slightly and for some attacks that enough to make Them not connect and therefore punishable.
@friedricefred3609
@friedricefred3609 4 жыл бұрын
I was always so confused how I could beat people but they were amazing at shield shifting when if I barely moved my stick I would roll. Thanks for the guide!
@Mandasnor
@Mandasnor 5 жыл бұрын
Shield SDI is gonna be really nice for micro spacing. Also punishing hard hitting moves sounds great
@JakeDaVGM
@JakeDaVGM 5 жыл бұрын
This can help Pichu already be great. When people hit him on shield, it usually pushes him too far back for tilt or grab punishes, but this might change that a lot.
@kappaccino4447
@kappaccino4447 5 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see shield-tilting being effective. Moving your shield closer to an incoming hitbox reduces shield-uptime, and will let you save more of it's health.
@smashyu545
@smashyu545 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed that (Dark) Pit becomes a windmill while shieldtilting?
@leoleo4469
@leoleo4469 5 жыл бұрын
3:16 yup
@Gurtington
@Gurtington 5 жыл бұрын
Literally everyone who watched this video noticed.
@Brutepaintballer
@Brutepaintballer 4 жыл бұрын
Free energy production!
@Serralas
@Serralas 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first time ever since I started watching you guys' videos that I already knew most of the information. Lol
@MaxNMotion
@MaxNMotion 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone appreciates the crazy tips that the game has!
@p03t29
@p03t29 5 жыл бұрын
I learned this playing Doc and trying to instant Up B OoS. Was wondering why I kept tilting up. This video explains it so well. Thanks!!
@SasukaRH
@SasukaRH 5 жыл бұрын
You thought I wouldn't realize the fact that there are 69 tips. You can't fool me as I have an anime pfp!!!
@Aego384
@Aego384 5 жыл бұрын
Ejaculation salt
@sovietmuffin501
@sovietmuffin501 5 жыл бұрын
Andres E. Gomez M. Top tier
@SasukaRH
@SasukaRH 5 жыл бұрын
@Lubra K. Shin heck
@SasukaRH
@SasukaRH 5 жыл бұрын
@@Blues2Dark dId YoU JuSt aSuMe mY GeNdEr?!?
@michaelgillespie8097
@michaelgillespie8097 5 жыл бұрын
Game over boyos. This guy has us beat.
@sachitechless
@sachitechless 5 жыл бұрын
I think this will be very important going forward. From what it looked like IS SDI could force a crossup meaning that moves that have plus frames on block could be nullified by crossing up your opponent meaning you need to use completely different moves for the mixup. Also Shield tilting is gonna be hella useful due to how many moves shield poke now
@im_Spade_
@im_Spade_ 5 жыл бұрын
Shield tilting is super useful. Shield SDI is probably also super useful against characters that rely on certain moves to be safe on block that might not be safe anymore. This is so cool imo
@redjay5206
@redjay5206 5 жыл бұрын
Shield tilting was in Smash 4 too, probably just not as good as now, but it still existed
@FlashandZach
@FlashandZach 5 жыл бұрын
That field of hopes and dreams at the end.
@iamlittlepon9548
@iamlittlepon9548 5 жыл бұрын
-I accidentally learned about this in smash 4, but i guess this is even more useful-
@joshcarriker6958
@joshcarriker6958 5 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to shield tilt but always thought it was too risky, this is extremely useful
@snivyboy168
@snivyboy168 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone did this in one of my arenas, I would think everyone saw me as a weirdo cause I didn't know how to do it. Thank you, BSD!
@JosephHk743
@JosephHk743 5 жыл бұрын
This seems pretty situational, but nice to know all the same especially for some characters like Snake and Inklings.
@HarvestMasterJack
@HarvestMasterJack 5 жыл бұрын
I think this might actually be a pretty big deal. The nerfs to most grab ranges have made shield grabs unreliable against many moves, but being able to shift closer during block just might make it so you can punish safer moves if you react and SDI in time. Being able to shift away against cross-up dash attacks should also make it easier to punish those with an OoS option, for those who have one.
@JonLucy_downunder
@JonLucy_downunder 5 жыл бұрын
Holy balls Dark Pit’s shield spin animation looks crispy
@cdc.drippy_
@cdc.drippy_ 5 жыл бұрын
I see you BSD wit them ending remixes from VGR. A man of quality taste in remixes.
@WeavileGuy
@WeavileGuy 5 жыл бұрын
i feel like this could help change whether or not an attack crosses up if you read/react to a move (like most dash attacks) that just barely crosses you up and makes it easier to punish because, at least for me, it's pretty difficult to do a grab out of shield if they're behind you of course tilts are easier to do the other way but grabs lead to better punishes
@Nwordsoup
@Nwordsoup 5 жыл бұрын
Grabbing out of shield is more of a smash 4 thing. It's not nearly as good as it used to be, and honestly it's kind of a good thing.
@Quizoid
@Quizoid 5 жыл бұрын
This is so refreshingly clear.
@semantik95
@semantik95 5 жыл бұрын
This is obviously extremely useful. Especially for punishes
@ThrowOutxD
@ThrowOutxD 5 жыл бұрын
I like how pit spins his sword or whatever when he shield tilts lol
@corvax8644
@corvax8644 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, did dark pit spin his bow during shield moving in smash 4??
@wickedbat4710
@wickedbat4710 5 жыл бұрын
Corvax Both Pit and Dark Pit did
@phoebe5114
@phoebe5114 5 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! Thanks for making this, especially useful for shielding both Icies. Love that outro, too.
@Djeraldancheta
@Djeraldancheta 5 жыл бұрын
I've missed countless of grabs out of shield by the shield stun. I still have to dial out that habit from S4. Although, the ShieldSDI brings it back in situational times!
@LegendarySannin88
@LegendarySannin88 5 жыл бұрын
There's been a video on this made back in December. It's a shame they don't recognition. Thanks, Edman Urias!
@davidkim301
@davidkim301 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t sleep on the tips menu; they have lots of stuff you don’t see anywhere else. For example: short hop aerials do less damage than regular aerials.
@The_DGO
@The_DGO 5 жыл бұрын
I've found a new tech I call instant-dash-jump. normally, you need to dash before jumping to get a dash jump, but with my very basic tech it is possible to jump before you dash. This tech is possible, though I'm not sure why it works exactly. I think you might determine your aerial momentum based on where the control stick is pointing on the first airborne frame in smash ultimate, and if it is pointing all the way right or left, you well get maximum momentum in that direction as soon as you leave the ground. this means you can do stuff like dash-jump OOS to punish opponents who spaced their attack well, and to instant RARs across the stage easily, and even do dash-short-hop aerials in any direction, including Nair and up-air. you do it even better with this new tech b/c you can input the attack direction in shield before jumping, so instead of needing to make the attack and momentum direction within 3 frames, you only need the momentum direction.
@Okadalzo
@Okadalzo 5 жыл бұрын
ZeRo already told us about it, in his controller video.
@JustinY.
@JustinY. 5 жыл бұрын
Still no Sans
@ObamaSexGaming2007
@ObamaSexGaming2007 5 жыл бұрын
Shut
@NessMotherBound
@NessMotherBound 5 жыл бұрын
Wow your here early XD
@BeefySmashDoods
@BeefySmashDoods 5 жыл бұрын
cFive still believes!
@limbo9751
@limbo9751 5 жыл бұрын
fucc sans, goku is wat we need
@NessMotherBound
@NessMotherBound 5 жыл бұрын
We need Bandana Waddle Dee!!!
@JustArcher19
@JustArcher19 5 жыл бұрын
I think that shield tilting is much more useful in this game since shield poking happens much more often
@Cthulos
@Cthulos 5 жыл бұрын
Might be useful for Lucario if you want to get a Force Palm Grab instead of a Flame if you're just outside of the range of the grab.
@GamerBlazened
@GamerBlazened 5 жыл бұрын
I learned Robin's new levin mechanics by reading the tips on a whim
@ShadowXxRhyme
@ShadowXxRhyme 5 жыл бұрын
This is hella useful for people you barely cant reach for a grab
@FoxIord
@FoxIord 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine needing an advanced technique to punish unsafe shield hits. *Climhazzard sounds intensify.*
@ArgonPSO
@ArgonPSO 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd go into out of shield options with this one lol. While you can't empty jump out of double shielding you can do any aerial. Double shield + up A will do an up air for example.
@esf1934
@esf1934 5 жыл бұрын
I really love playing dr mario now lol, so much impact and combos on moves
@rocketdog734
@rocketdog734 5 жыл бұрын
it's funny, i knew shield tilting was a thing in smash 4 but i never used it because my shield never got poked lmao now it actually matters in this game
@gizmobies6
@gizmobies6 5 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who smiled at the goofy shield movements? XD
@accel103
@accel103 5 жыл бұрын
1:12 i can see this becoming a new way of teabagging
@fightinggamesandchill.5660
@fightinggamesandchill.5660 5 жыл бұрын
I think shield sdi should be something that a player must get use to do without thinking, I believe any space advantage is great after blockstun and would help to punish big more consistently
@PepperonibeatsZombie
@PepperonibeatsZombie 5 жыл бұрын
As a Yoshi main, This doesn't apply to me LOL
@-pinky.
@-pinky. 5 жыл бұрын
ProKobe Shield SDI is actually super important vs swords so you can nair more thing OoS that you normally never would. The shield b thing is also situationally good for buffering fair/bair OoS w/out rolling.
@GeneralJerrard101
@GeneralJerrard101 5 жыл бұрын
I think ZeRo said this was in ultimate too. Just one of the tippity top tier strata the pros don't tell you.
@Yuseigo
@Yuseigo 5 жыл бұрын
This would be really good for tactical players that aren't new to the game
@ZzigZaG00NIN
@ZzigZaG00NIN 2 жыл бұрын
I like dks face at 0:23 he looks too surprised
@danmas7181
@danmas7181 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the how to mash video and you guys have come a long way. Quality I'd really high now
@card44
@card44 5 жыл бұрын
Basically what he's telling you to do is to press both the shield buttons at the same time.
@GreenTopaz213
@GreenTopaz213 5 жыл бұрын
Now we all know how ninkendo does it, thank you so much
@n00bJesus
@n00bJesus 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the superb tips doods!
@jeremystinson2124
@jeremystinson2124 5 жыл бұрын
This will be an underrated mechanic.
@Mullkaw
@Mullkaw 5 жыл бұрын
Hold Sheild + Sheild + Up and mash B, and you do an up B OoS when your sheild is hit, even with tap jump off
@HighPricedManiac
@HighPricedManiac 5 жыл бұрын
That made me laugh. That damn timing 0:43
@spades5713
@spades5713 5 жыл бұрын
I hear that Field of Hopes and Dreams remix at the end.
@FrnzFrdnnd
@FrnzFrdnnd 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I knew about the double shield. Pretty useful :)
@smashgambits
@smashgambits 5 жыл бұрын
Shield tilting is definitely going to be used more and more, especially by big characters. As Ike against many characters, a correctly spaced dtilt will poke their shield even if it's only had a little damage (unless they shield tilt). I usually do double dtilts because the move is fast and has long range. If they get hit it sends them at a great angle to follow with other moves. I expect the meta will shift (or has shifted) to swordsman spamming dtilt, which can only be effectively countered by shield tilting. So I give it under a year before shield tilting is as common as short hop RARs. Shield SDI? Who knows if that will make much difference. Odds are that even if a top player implements it to get a hype win, 99% of us won't even realize that the win was due to shield SDI. I doubt it will become popular.
@koalasandro3967
@koalasandro3967 4 жыл бұрын
Right when he said "what was that?" In the intro a bug appeared on screen and I thought that was part of the vid🤣
@The2000bmc
@The2000bmc 5 жыл бұрын
**DON'T FORGET** **I'M WITH YOU IN THE DARK**
@stevenbrunelle3156
@stevenbrunelle3156 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I never knew this? I'm tilted.
@PetroklosZDM
@PetroklosZDM 5 жыл бұрын
Shield Tilting will be extremely helpful, especially now that it can be done so easily. Using it to avoid shieldpokes (duh) but to also get shieldpoked instead of having your shield broken!
@gdawgs101
@gdawgs101 5 жыл бұрын
Secret? You're like the 4th or 5th KZbinr I've seen cover this in the past 2 weeks
@michaeleanthonyjr
@michaeleanthonyjr 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought that shield poking was a stupid mechanic because shield tilting is too difficult to do consistently. But with this new feature, it's at least manageable. I still think shield poking is a redundant mechanic. But at least players can work around it.
@azathothalter
@azathothalter 5 жыл бұрын
Tips are very useful, i don't have to use all the characters to learn stuff from them
@anthonyrobinson6448
@anthonyrobinson6448 3 ай бұрын
extremely important against corrins fsmash i'd say.
@brettCU
@brettCU 5 жыл бұрын
In-shield SDI seems like it would be useful for Ganondorf to get grabs out of shield.
@tonynieves7206
@tonynieves7206 5 жыл бұрын
This is a sick technique
@psi_vibes
@psi_vibes 5 жыл бұрын
Incineroar looks like he’s Dempsey rolling
@londonl.5892
@londonl.5892 4 ай бұрын
This is also how you get out of Corrin's charging f-smash
@smeltstarverse7306
@smeltstarverse7306 5 жыл бұрын
Deltarune music? In a Smash video? *HECC YEAH!*
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