Shield Stun Canceling - Smash Ultimate

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Пікірлер: 369
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
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@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
I hearted my own comment. What are you going to do about it?
@xyliahvortex661
@xyliahvortex661 6 жыл бұрын
Forward smash
@fifty3843
@fifty3843 6 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna use the nine hammer
@jav1122
@jav1122 6 жыл бұрын
Is that what gluttony was trying to do when he got hit for like 40% by Cosmos’ jab during their set in summit?
@blanksymortimer4088
@blanksymortimer4088 5 жыл бұрын
this means it's scarial
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 6 жыл бұрын
Wow nice technique. Can't wait to go battle online and completely forget about it while I panic and smash all the buttons on my controller
@japanrocksgousa
@japanrocksgousa 5 жыл бұрын
Practice mode
@korey2996
@korey2996 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@russianbot2179
@russianbot2179 5 жыл бұрын
this technique gives you a whole second to think about what to do. when you get rapid jabbed, just roll behind them, simple
@LoveKasumin1253
@LoveKasumin1253 6 жыл бұрын
I'm known for my personal tech of canceling shieldstun into getting hit.
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a master in that technique too. 1v1 me
@ganondorfdragmire7886
@ganondorfdragmire7886 6 жыл бұрын
I hear it's a true combo
@SquidwardProfilePic
@SquidwardProfilePic 5 жыл бұрын
I am famous for blocking a move and getting punished for it
@shanemiller1182
@shanemiller1182 5 жыл бұрын
OberynGG I’m known for my go-offstage-to-spike-then-miss-and-die technique
@brachmindunsparce6044
@brachmindunsparce6044 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the mashing-jump-offstage-and-gimping-my self tech.
@yamesswole2816
@yamesswole2816 6 жыл бұрын
"Aerials are incredibly safe on shield" *cries in Little Mac*
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. This video actually gave many kills and ko punches to littlemac mains throughout the world.
@andreazhab
@andreazhab 5 жыл бұрын
Well, actually Mac's nair has incredibly short ending lag It's just that it sucks everywhere else
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 5 жыл бұрын
Magjistarite Show What do you mean? Little Mac doesn't have any aerials. Sakurai forgot to add them.they
@spaner.1613
@spaner.1613 2 жыл бұрын
*laughs in Bowser*
@OblivionDemon17
@OblivionDemon17 6 жыл бұрын
Dabuz discovered a newly unheard of Tech: Popoff canceling.
@aaronpinilla9504
@aaronpinilla9504 6 жыл бұрын
OblivionDemon17 underated comment
@zenki4460
@zenki4460 6 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEEESSSSS
@VelvetAura
@VelvetAura 5 жыл бұрын
Secret tech only known to those who can go lippo mode
@agentdiamond9211
@agentdiamond9211 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, ZD discovered that (I think)
@sneakyscreamer
@sneakyscreamer 5 жыл бұрын
Very funny xD
@doonqueen3345
@doonqueen3345 6 жыл бұрын
"This means it's scarier to vore" -GimR
@ChillavaKirby
@ChillavaKirby 6 жыл бұрын
Scareial - noun A scary aerial
@5up3rp3rs0n
@5up3rp3rs0n 5 жыл бұрын
I like how this sounds so much like KZbin Poop stuff lol
@zacharyjohnson9562
@zacharyjohnson9562 5 жыл бұрын
wait...
@SnuggsMcDuff
@SnuggsMcDuff 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, he aint wrong
@silversabre2537
@silversabre2537 5 жыл бұрын
Scarier to vore out of shield, truly the game has changed since melee
@HappySoDuh
@HappySoDuh 6 жыл бұрын
Literally my favorite smash player at this point. Love you GimR
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
dag, thanks! :)
@jejetube7667
@jejetube7667 6 жыл бұрын
​@@GimR LOL "Dag maw"
@joe-joevalentine1313
@joe-joevalentine1313 5 жыл бұрын
And for good reason!
@itube141
@itube141 6 жыл бұрын
Or play Bowser and ignore rapid jabs entirely >:)
@romaprof2
@romaprof2 5 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Tough Guy*
@IAm-zo1bo
@IAm-zo1bo 5 жыл бұрын
Explain pls because when i tried to jab with dedede he just slaps me like you really think you can do that to me
@JonLucy_downunder
@JonLucy_downunder 5 жыл бұрын
We Are At low percents Bowser doesn’t flinch from weak attacks such as most rapid jabs
@itube141
@itube141 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonLucy_downunder he also stops flinching in PK fire after a second. I've closed stocks by waiting to side b out of PK fire until Ness is at kill percent
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 5 жыл бұрын
Romaprof I love Bowser, he's my heavy main, but dear God, playing against him online as Inkling renders my jab useless which is my main method of Inking people. A bit of ink and 6% trades with Bowser F-Smash and I lose the trade.
@LazyLee
@LazyLee 6 жыл бұрын
Scarials are what I call Wolf's Nair
@JonLucy_downunder
@JonLucy_downunder 5 жыл бұрын
Also King K. Rool’s nair
@aldali724
@aldali724 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@alexdria5071
@alexdria5071 5 жыл бұрын
Palu Nair
@JohnyMeBoi
@JohnyMeBoi Жыл бұрын
​@@JonLucy_downunderking k nair is not safe
@miraisthebestfr
@miraisthebestfr 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best smash tech channel. Really good stuff dude
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! :)
@deadlydeathed
@deadlydeathed 6 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite stuff on youtube, everyone elses content is mad boring
@miraisthebestfr
@miraisthebestfr 6 жыл бұрын
Death oof
@Niceguyhidden
@Niceguyhidden 6 жыл бұрын
@@miraisthebestfr Beefy Smash doods isn't better?
@MrEmmanuel678
@MrEmmanuel678 6 жыл бұрын
How did know one know this, I always knew what to do at rapid jab. There’s also frames for just jumping out of jab lock.
@mattsmith457
@mattsmith457 6 жыл бұрын
I blacked out for the entirety of the video and woke up feeling as though it was scarier to roll after shielding an aerial
@Aschmander
@Aschmander 6 жыл бұрын
I like how easy to understand you make things. Some players like myself are relatively knew to smash and don't know all the crazy terminology for things quite yet And a lot of youtubers will explain techniques by only using all the crazy terms and i've no idea what they're talking about
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I try to make it as easy to understand as possible so players like yourself can still understand the information :)
@TimG57867
@TimG57867 6 жыл бұрын
Finally no more stupid guessing games when people Rapid Jab my shield.
@Daniel328DT
@Daniel328DT 6 жыл бұрын
@divide two Just dont hold your jab. Some have slower jabs so good luck trying to get safely away from being punished. Honestly I find myself doing rapid jabs more accidentally than intentionally. I hate rapid jabs in this game so much.
@tactician6101
@tactician6101 5 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel328DT holding the A button does a gentleman jab instead of a rapid jab.
@Rye-Uh
@Rye-Uh 5 жыл бұрын
@@tactician6101 Depends on the character. Some like Kirby do not.
@tactician6101
@tactician6101 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rye-Uh oh yeah, of course! Just talking about those with the option to gentleman jab.
@Playboyvet_
@Playboyvet_ 6 жыл бұрын
We need u as a playable character in Smash
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
daww
@LendinSwiftbolt
@LendinSwiftbolt 6 жыл бұрын
@@GimR I think he'd have a specific mechanic where his shield takes noticeably more damage but grants like double the amount of punish frames on an easier parry window
@brafy2981
@brafy2981 6 жыл бұрын
How about an Olimar-Alph situation with Dr. Mario and gimr?
@joseresendez9756
@joseresendez9756 6 жыл бұрын
He has a better chance than Waluigi
@Dellennickolis95
@Dellennickolis95 5 жыл бұрын
You already can, miis
@liplaygames5591
@liplaygames5591 6 жыл бұрын
Back to the lab again!
@innerbeast415
@innerbeast415 6 жыл бұрын
PSA: Meta Knight’s Rapid Jab is still hard to punish with this tech unless he starts it right on top of you. His sword range beats out most character’s rolls if he starts his jab anywhere past mid range. I think Samus might still be able to forward roll through it, but I haven’t tested it yet. BACK TO THE LAB WITH ME.
@NoshuHyena
@NoshuHyena 6 жыл бұрын
Aerials that are safe on shield are indeed scareials.
@nianiwhite5052
@nianiwhite5052 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome this is going to help me. In Mvc2 we called this guard cancelling. Cable doing tiger knee ahvb through hyper Sentinel force......oh the good Ole days :-)
@smashguy7986
@smashguy7986 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the tip GimR!! It is simple but it's better to know 100 simple tech than 1 or 2 complex tech
@yetijunior
@yetijunior 6 жыл бұрын
Gimr is a real man of the groove for using Steam Gardens Theme in this video.
@Rulytasho
@Rulytasho 6 жыл бұрын
>its scarier to Vore >mfw
@austinpowers3659
@austinpowers3659 5 жыл бұрын
Wait this was in smash 4, wait shields were so strong nobody figured out this tech
@duncathan_salt
@duncathan_salt 5 жыл бұрын
there were only 2 moves that could cause it in smash 4: yoshi dair and lucario's aura sphere charge. the mechanic was patched into the game shortly after the shieldstun patch in order to nerf aura sphere charge shield breaks
@RosettaGXA
@RosettaGXA 5 жыл бұрын
Shieldstun is much higher in Ultimate than in Smash 4 which means a lot of multihits including all rapid jabs can actually trap you in shield
@dudeitsivan
@dudeitsivan 5 жыл бұрын
Useful tech AND the best Mario Odyssey song? QUALITY
@redKheld
@redKheld 6 жыл бұрын
I love that G&W just happens to be the one example of it not working for them lol Nice vid though GIMR, this is something simple and helpful to keep in mind. ...now I just have to figure out how to get MY aerials safe on shield... :/
@niar1726
@niar1726 5 жыл бұрын
Game & Watch, not worrking since 2001
@kayo4509
@kayo4509 5 жыл бұрын
That is the sickest technique when you fiscally try it. It's so satisfying when people get punished for stupid stuff I shouldn't get hit by
@arcaniaheart3570
@arcaniaheart3570 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Professor GimR.
@TrentTheCreator
@TrentTheCreator 6 жыл бұрын
I remember that end credit song on cartoon network, you just got a new subscriber and the dexter inspired avatar is dope too man.
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@JohnCena-ep2mz
@JohnCena-ep2mz 6 жыл бұрын
Good aerials are now called scareials. GimR has spoken.
@juanmjx
@juanmjx 6 жыл бұрын
3:37 Is that Melee Marth? Wtf
@TheMdub27
@TheMdub27 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit he's Darth Vader lmoa!
@TheMdub27
@TheMdub27 6 жыл бұрын
I think because he was finishing his kicks, fox's hurt boxed moved backwards before Fox's animation did
@juanmjx
@juanmjx 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheMdub27 That would make sense but, it was still crazy range lol
@ChillavaKirby
@ChillavaKirby 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah snakes grab is bs
@youssefdabul3644
@youssefdabul3644 6 жыл бұрын
Rip Isabelle mains and her trash rolls...
@kirbyofthestars2269
@kirbyofthestars2269 5 жыл бұрын
At least her jab is so trash that people can never frame 1 invincible roll out of it, right? :')
@Sorapie
@Sorapie 5 жыл бұрын
Kirby of the Stars her jab is useful
@higuisitsmayamia
@higuisitsmayamia 5 жыл бұрын
We need a buff :c
@JMJackMcNally
@JMJackMcNally 5 жыл бұрын
buff granted
@kachosuffer7
@kachosuffer7 3 жыл бұрын
hopefully more nerfs
@vyq6014
@vyq6014 6 жыл бұрын
I needed that! Awesome stuff!
@Mercurius19
@Mercurius19 5 жыл бұрын
I had known about this before, but I hadn’t even thought of its uses like this before. Thanks!
@disboundedx8038
@disboundedx8038 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest you're doing much better than the Beefy Smash Doods, I used to always go to them for smash techs but since ultimate came out it feels like they aren't doing anything, and when they release a video on a tech it's already been done
@NBDbingo5
@NBDbingo5 9 ай бұрын
To this day many players online don't know this, so you can get out of rapid jabs easy and you can stick them in rapid jabs easy
@zapp485
@zapp485 2 жыл бұрын
3:04 the og AAAUUGGGGHHH!
@ancienturtle216
@ancienturtle216 Жыл бұрын
Could you roll in if corrin charges f-smash on your shield?
@Nipponing
@Nipponing 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you GimR.
@kkvibe2707
@kkvibe2707 6 жыл бұрын
Before I even get far into the vid gotta point out I love the choice if Steam Gardens as background music!
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
odyssey too good
@meljXD2
@meljXD2 5 жыл бұрын
Ive tried this and thought it didnt work but now imma practice this
@freshyeska9875
@freshyeska9875 5 жыл бұрын
Back to the lab again
@dei4
@dei4 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is the vsauce michael of smash
@cripplepickle87
@cripplepickle87 6 жыл бұрын
nice back scaerial
@ryanfoley8897
@ryanfoley8897 6 жыл бұрын
BACK TO LAB AGAIN
@AtomicDoorknob
@AtomicDoorknob 5 жыл бұрын
I knew there was something going on with rolls and jab locks makes sense now
@SquidwardProfilePic
@SquidwardProfilePic 5 жыл бұрын
I've always known about this but I've never really thought about it too much. I can't really do well against characters that have lagless aerials that get to press buttons for free so this might help.
@zacharygoraum9315
@zacharygoraum9315 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Vsauce vibes. Thanks for the video!
@yeahman9842
@yeahman9842 6 жыл бұрын
is that Ty the tasmanian tiger music i hear
@TheUmbreonGuy
@TheUmbreonGuy 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually very useful.
@MoFo5869
@MoFo5869 6 жыл бұрын
thank you Gimr, this one was useful af for me! blessed
@captainquickscope8414
@captainquickscope8414 6 жыл бұрын
This means is scarial... *starts tying noose*
@rytheyan9064
@rytheyan9064 5 жыл бұрын
I knew about this about a month in and thought this was common knowledge lol
@kouko6727
@kouko6727 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a normal mechanic because I always find my self in shield stun lol.
@agility7324
@agility7324 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY im using this against my freind how play palu
@FelipeKana1
@FelipeKana1 5 жыл бұрын
I really need to train more spot dodges and parries
@theweissman7475
@theweissman7475 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a list of characters with jabs that this would apply to, so I know who I could style on :P
@Inn0c3nT
@Inn0c3nT 4 жыл бұрын
3:37 *melee marth grab range flashbacks*
@Custodius44
@Custodius44 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a list of what characters rapid jabs meet the 11-hit requirement? A google doc or something?
@mrasray7622
@mrasray7622 5 жыл бұрын
Little Macs up-b actually has intangibility on frame 1 so can he shield-stun cancel into up-b?
@vanillacokejunky
@vanillacokejunky 5 жыл бұрын
Up-B is a somewhat universally good option for most characters out of shield.
@mrasray7622
@mrasray7622 5 жыл бұрын
vanillacokejunky yeah but little mac especially because frame 3 with intangibility on all the startup
@Gromper7878
@Gromper7878 5 жыл бұрын
I always try to parry the last hit and end up getting hit instead. No more of that lol
@eriklatimer
@eriklatimer 6 жыл бұрын
I never knew this 😂😂. Thank you Tech GOD 💪🏾 GimR!
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
Gotchu
@drewwitte8473
@drewwitte8473 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Gimz
@grotn_
@grotn_ 5 жыл бұрын
I used to roll out of rapid jabs in 4 as well but I thought people knew about this so I didn't think anything about it, lol
@zuruzukin1793
@zuruzukin1793 6 жыл бұрын
Yo this is nice!! Definitly my favorite mechanic so far.
@austinpowers3659
@austinpowers3659 5 жыл бұрын
This was on my Reddit notification first
@weenee4714
@weenee4714 6 жыл бұрын
5:07 oh lawd he comin.
@YogiofEternalPeace
@YogiofEternalPeace 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know of this channel, but you earned a new sub! :)
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@philipbutler
@philipbutler 5 жыл бұрын
love the ending
@boogit9979
@boogit9979 5 жыл бұрын
You're the only guy who can pull of a beanie with out looking like a mega hipster
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Rztro1544
@Rztro1544 5 жыл бұрын
4:53 after 6 years of studying English I believed I was an idiot for messing up words, lmao
@dagingerbreadman70
@dagingerbreadman70 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, people have made videos on z-drop combos with mega man and link, but NOONE and I mean NOONE has delved into villager wood block combos (the wood piece spawned by chopping down tree). There aren’t many high tech combos with villagers, but I think woodblock could be a potential goldmine of skilled play, in an otherwise boring to watch character. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to lab it, so I’m trusting you to make the discoveries. :)
@ShiddyKong
@ShiddyKong 6 жыл бұрын
Is it a one frame window on Frame 11 (for the roll) or can you roll any point beyond the 11th frame?
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
Any point
@ShiddyKong
@ShiddyKong 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing that up for me
@TheHangedMan
@TheHangedMan 6 жыл бұрын
Smash ASMR when
@Sonictunic
@Sonictunic 5 жыл бұрын
ty gimr fampai
@TheProgenitor
@TheProgenitor 6 жыл бұрын
This almost sounds like a Guard Bonus mechanic rather than stun canceling. In the slow motion clip, it seemed like the invuln started while you were still shielding. I wonder if this applies to other actions out of shield, like jump or spotdodge, or even just a simple shield drop. Might warrant some further exploration.
@cmk5498
@cmk5498 6 жыл бұрын
Yooo it's the progenitor!
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
nah that's just how the shield animation works. It seems the first OOS option starts while the shield is still up
@vegetarblessb
@vegetarblessb 5 жыл бұрын
Gimr looks like cleaned up westballz
@logan_wolf
@logan_wolf 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is very fascinating and interesting information that I will never use, because I suck at Smash Bros.!
@MewtwoGenetic
@MewtwoGenetic 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice to know this, thanks a lot!
@larrystevensons9672
@larrystevensons9672 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you gimz, very cool
@kishurocks
@kishurocks 4 жыл бұрын
Left stick or right stick? I'm guessing it's right because of C-stick (control) but I could be wrong. Thanks in advanced.
@baileygamble3530
@baileygamble3530 5 жыл бұрын
4:59 “this means it’s scarier to vore” yeah I think that’s always been scary
@fireflyhighh
@fireflyhighh 5 жыл бұрын
I did this since like week 1 how did people not know this
@levix1524
@levix1524 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you fellow gamer, very cool!
@WhoIsSirChasm
@WhoIsSirChasm 6 жыл бұрын
Ponyta evolves into Rapidjab.
@Orbrun
@Orbrun 6 жыл бұрын
If only this existed in smash64
@SplitSeoul
@SplitSeoul 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! You're awesome!
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy 5 жыл бұрын
Is this yet another reason why we should usually do the 3-hit jabs when possible?
@magnificify
@magnificify 6 жыл бұрын
Would parrying an aerial be a better option? I guess it would depend on the aerial because some create space and if hit from above or behind a punish might take too long to come out
@hamptonwooster
@hamptonwooster 6 жыл бұрын
So you basically just hold the control stick to the left or right while shielding until it's that 11th frame?
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
you gotta mash it
@hamptonwooster
@hamptonwooster 6 жыл бұрын
@@GimR ahh thanks
@ShiddyKong
@ShiddyKong 6 жыл бұрын
@@GimR So it's a 1 frame window? Must it be on exactly the 11th Frame?
@Smoothcarries
@Smoothcarries 2 жыл бұрын
Would this work vs the Corrin Fsmash cheese? If so thats huge
@domothebro2435
@domothebro2435 6 жыл бұрын
So for people like inkling who can lock you in shield from a good distance away is it better to roll the opposite direction or does it just depend on where they catch you? ...also never change your outro gimz
@KeleuHerdley
@KeleuHerdley 6 жыл бұрын
If you’re talking about splattershot, roll away if you can. If you let go of shield, you immediately can be punished by down tilt or grab(grab only works if they’re close enough). Rolling towards inkling at that point results in you getting inked anyway, and gives Inkling more punish options. Rolling back makes you almost entirely unpunishable, since the only way Inkling can beat you out of that option is by reading you. For rapid jab, it’s the same as the other rapid jabs; just roll in asap.
@domothebro2435
@domothebro2435 6 жыл бұрын
@@KeleuHerdley I dont know if it has a specific name but I was talking about their normal jab where they repeatedly fire the gun and it travels a good distance. It may have to do with my characters, being ganon and zelda
@pendalink
@pendalink 6 жыл бұрын
Idk about this being in smash 4, I definitely tried everything to get out of aura sphere lock
@mekk-knightsarecool222
@mekk-knightsarecool222 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t yeah. But you could have just shield di into them then back and you can drop ur shield.
@TheRyanNeighbor
@TheRyanNeighbor 6 жыл бұрын
Idk if it’s just with my headphones but audio sounded like it was fading in and out constantly, making you really hard to hear at parts.
@GimR
@GimR 6 жыл бұрын
yeah I did something with the audio and it caused this to happen
@natekite7532
@natekite7532 5 жыл бұрын
Wait so if you shield DI towards your opponent, will it automatically roll on the 11th hit, or do you have to count? Also, does this only work for the 11th hit specifically, or does it work at any point after the 11th hit?
@shortbutripped
@shortbutripped 6 жыл бұрын
Love you gimr
@devanrichter3454
@devanrichter3454 6 жыл бұрын
3:36 Marth? Is that you? LMFAO
@noxyu2806
@noxyu2806 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful thanks that really help
@addisonbean
@addisonbean 5 жыл бұрын
Where is that song from that played while he was talking? It reminds me of something in club penguin
@addisonbean
@addisonbean 5 жыл бұрын
Nvm it's Steam Gardens from Super Mario Odyssey (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWmwqWRuqrdkmrs)
@TDawg437
@TDawg437 4 жыл бұрын
Does this work against the input characters (Ryu, ken and terry)?
@skeletalknight
@skeletalknight 5 жыл бұрын
GimR should start an ASMR channel on the side. His voice is super relaxing. Nearly fell asleep during this video. (Not knocking its content, btw.)
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
I've gotten this a lot
@rykeerodriguez9559
@rykeerodriguez9559 5 жыл бұрын
Does this still exist? Do you still auto roll if you're holding B? I'd assume no?
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