EVERYTHING I HATE About Owning A Used BMW M4 1 Year Later!

[@BeemerFam]

Disclaimer: I had to find small things to hate since there truly is barely anything to dislike about the BMW M4! If I couldn’t find anything to hate, this video would be pointless. Enjoy!

[@tonywang0726]

One note to you on that disconnect Bluetooth thing. If next time you find out ur music won’t play don’t just disconnect it try to put ur car music input to the AUX and then click back and choose it back to Bluetooth connection. And you should hear the music no problem. It’s much faster than do the disconnect phone thing

[@jagayong9333]

Nice ride! You can still drive off with the cold start, just don’t drive like a hoon ‘til the engine is up to it’s normal operating temperature…and your neighbors will love you for it.

[@M3nace_f80]

What do you say them for is reliable past 80k miles

[@great4ever845]

What year is that

[@Aytoz.]

Waste of money wtf is this trash

[@Lev782]

I rented out an M4 off of Turo using my Mom’s info for my 21st birthday about 3 years ago. And again a year later as a rental for a trip to San Francisco. I fell in love with the car instantly and I promised myself I would own a 2018-2020 model in the future

[@eddiec.5003]

yeah id avoid the clapped out pre lci models. lci feels so much better driving wise and more refined

[@ryanjofre]

I’m ordering a brand new 2022 next month …. Black with red leather, red calipers and every carbon option. Make your dreams a reality. Life is what happens when most people are making grand plans.

[@controversenyc]

I bought one about a year ago and Turo can be your best friend. If you buy one then rent it out a few days of the month, it will help cover the payments. Depending on your area they can rent for $200-$400 a day. Best of luck!

[@johnsimoney2035]

@@ryanjofre you mean try and justify your delusions as reality. Unless you’re a multimillionaire…you’re an idiot if you buy a new car costing over $80K. If you did…hope you’re enjoying those car and insurance payments 😂

[@ryanjofre]

@@johnsimoney2035 - I went for a 2021 M5 competition! Even with 740 credit and 30k down the payments where horrible! My credit union offered me an excellent rate but only with 60k down and 36 month. I can pay cash but.....lol. Sorry if your not in my League dude. I probably make more $$$ in my sleep than you with your 9-5.

[@sascha_diefenbach]

For a better turning radius you have to give more throttle.. 😂😂

[@jexuz_7980]

Yep. Its a bmw... basic stuff

[@flip6776]

Lmfaoooooo

[@95regShamil]

🤣🤣🤣

[@menzimngadi6793]

🤪

[@Wasserglas45]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@oennis1644]

So basically small petty things in a nutshell that most ppl wouldn't even consider

[@BeemerFam]

Exactly the car is amazing

[@smr0m670]

@@BeemerFam hey at least youre honest about it lol, i love this gen of M4.

[@colinward1007]

Thanks. Saved me 10 minutes of my life watching a video

[@chrisvig123]

The big things are the crazy service interval costs if you have a new vehicle and bmw trying to screw you out of every $ that you have 😠

[@kevinanton6797]

@@chrisvig123 ong it’s like going to Gucci or whatever designer place they will charge you way more because of their reputation etc. that’s why I go to certified mechanics that know how to work on bmws but are not a bmw dealership. It will cut your costs for everything most of the time half of the price of bmw dealerships

[@stoss-11]

Don’t think I’ve ever heard a car enthusiast complain about too long of a cold start 😂 tell the neighbors to quit cryin smh

[@pieterjordaan3989]

" me running to the window each time my neighbour starts his car just for this "

[@Yamuva3]

Fr😭😭😭😭

[@Roxburysfinest]

Facts 😂

[@alushi_nehme]

I would be annoyed if it’s the car I use in the morning ngl

[@sahanchamikasasuke]

Totally ! Why didn’t he buy a camry 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@airpolska]

The poor turning radius is common in vehicles with wide front tires. The unpredictable torque can actually be fixed and made better with an updated sw flash from the dealer. I had a family member with a 2015 and it improved significantly after.

[@marcusd745]

The thing I hated most about my 2015 M4 was the exhaust rattle on startup with the stock exhaust. It drove me nuts because it sounded cheap, and it was honestly such a relief when I met other M3/M4 owners who heard it and went "yours does that too?!"

[@GPerformance7]

If there anything like my e90 335. It has a valve in the stock exhaust that rattles on cold start and I had to simply unplug it, now it sounds awesome no more rattle!

[@Mazokn]

Ppl kept asking me if my car is a diesel

[@pauljasondimasaca2462]

i like the looks of the m3 and m4 f8x but gotta admit man e92 is much better sound and handling ...

[@topfueljunkie100]

​​@@pauljasondimasaca2462I don't know how the E9X M3 could possibly handle better (unless you're talking about steering feel?), but you're on the money about it sounding better! That's FOR DANG SURE!

[@Possessive_]

Lmao oh so it’s not just mine lol bro I was scared something was messed up in my m4 😭

[@c.d.m.3821]

1. The torque curve has never been an issue unless you're driving way too aggressively on the street 2. The dct paddles on the wheel aren't an issue... You shouldn't be shifting mid turn anyway

[@Scrytheux]

Literally everyone knows the stock S55 torque curve is too agressive and the car is very snappy. And you can actually feel it even on normal daily driving commute

[@c.d.m.3821]

@@Scrytheux Never a concern for me... Then again, I'm not mashing the gas to 5k rpm at every corner I see.

[@HoodrichShinobi]

lol bmw owners are the biggest whiny little crybabies i've ever met in my life.

[@big-R]

Since when too much torque is a problem? Is that really a thing? Please.....

[@truevhazo4001]

It's an M car primarily designed for track. You want smooth that's the 440i job.

[@borisrazmiki8296]

Driving like a true BMW owner through the city.

[@djlee0721]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Andy-jd3kk]

for the paddle shifters, usually when making those turns from a standstill, it's going from 1st to 2nd gear so I just use the shift knob instead

[@dd.4910]

your mum uses that on all her nobs

[@YarMobile]

I am doing everything I can to have those problems.

[@gavinlamp]

I bought a late 2018 M3 Comp and I was getting buyers regret, but then I drove it around the neighborhood and just couldn't process why I'd ever sell it after growing up with a poster of a e36 m3 on my wall. People who have never ridden in one or driven a M3 will have many excuses as to why its a bad purchase or just doesn't make sense but once you get the chance to be in it or to drive it hard and feel what its about.... its really really difficult to justify it as a bad purchase.

[@BeemerFam]

💯

[@AbletonLiveTechs]

i got f80 too its sick af especially after some carbon mods and stage 2 tune. currently waiting on AA EL midpipe

[@78matt]

You buy cars like this with your heart not your head.

[@vkolpdj]

Just bought a 2018 M3 comp (waiting for it to be delivered), having buyers regret as well, but I keep telling myself that once I drive it the cost will be immediately justified. Your comment validated that for me. Thanks!!! 😎

[@davissonnguyen]

I can tell you this, I HONESTLY REGRET selling my F80 Comp 2018 for a G80. The F80 has Much MORE SOUL and the G80 Comp is tooo boring af. I still miss my f80 but can never find a pure OEM used with low miles. So dont ever sell it bro its an instant classic now. S55 Engine is the new 2JZ : )

[@bonganimazibuko1901]

Torque delivery is why i prefer Audi. Audi makes you feel like a good driver whereas BMW you really have to be a good driver

[@arasto3]

I have a '15 M4. I've never had an issue with my phone disconnecting after a week. And you're driving in sport plus around town, put it in comfort mode and it's not really an issue. If anything, the biggest issue with the car is the crank hub.

[@mattconnor8258]

The problem with the crank hub is that it’s blown out of proportion. Not a massive issue or likely to happen on stock motors.

[@redrex91]

I've had my 16 for nearly 3yrs now and never had an issue with my phone either or windows for that matter 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@SidwSace]

I bought a used BMW 128i with 97,000 miles with an extended warranty. Within the first month a rod bearing failed and destroyed the engine, so it needed to be replaced. Two months later the valve body became severely worn causing a shutter at speeds of 45-65mph. Thus, my transmission had to be replaced. My local mechanics could have started charging me seasonal storage fees, as my car spent more time in the shop than it did in my garage. However, all is now at bay and my car drives like the dream it was meant to be from the start. While my case is quite extreme, my advice to anyone buying a used BMW is this: understand the previous owner(s) might have seriously abused the car you’re about the buy.

[@maxthemaltesedog3597]

That’s the best engine BMW makes !! My buddy worked at the dealership and said they hardly came back for repair !! Also m4 is best balance of handling and power !!

[@Carlos-qu8ue]

M4 is my next car 💯

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Crank hub

[@tylercouture216]

The reason they don't come back is because guys who buy M cars don't take them to the dealership to get them worked on they take them to performance shops like Eurofed or 412 Motorsports & Solo Motorsports as dealerships just cant be trusted with precious M vehicles people who work at performance shops share a passion and love for cars and you can usually be right next to your car when it's getting worked on so there's that

[@Carlos-qu8ue]

@@tylercouture216 haha true i wouldn’t take my M to the dealer unless it’s under warranty or I really want to upgrade the performance.

[@tylercouture216]

@@Carlos-qu8ue I have certified Bimmer mechanic who works on mine him only

[@dmarcofusco2154]

Turn the wheel before you move… turning radius improved🤯

[@antekaramatic1551]

Me personally I love my BMW to be as loud as possible so a long cold start is a plus for me.

[@unbekanntunbekannt4248]

same

[@SuperCortes10]

Yup same I love it

[@jbrown7403]

Very good video! As a fellow F82 owner, I agree with most of your comments, especially the seat logos and the unpredictable torque. Replacing the logos with the newer black ones is well worth the ~ $300 investment, in my opinion. I have just gotten used to the cold start loudness but I agree it’s pretty annoying (especially in my 1-car garage). I took my traction control off twice but I’ve been “scared straight” after a pretty good “snap” under moderate acceleration. Not worth pushing this very powerful car to hard...can be very expensive ;) All in all, I absolutely love my car and I hope that you get as much joy out of yours! Cheers! 🍻

[@user-yy4ux9zf4r]

I would definitely recommend finding an open parking lot and getting to know your traction limits better, itll make you feel much safer pushing your limits later.

[@nikonuggage]

I love the effort in blurring out the speedometer, but you left the heads up display LOL Sick car man. Love it

[@forzatony]

Problem Number 2. The issue is the rubber that makes the seal around your windows. you need to re-oil the rubber seals.

[@jp3630]

Shhhh...leave the idiots to complain about non-issues. I stopped watching after that...

[@crujones5319]

Will agree with you on the turning radius - it's terrible! For traction, you must go with at least Pilot Sport 4 S or Cup 2 tires - Super Sports don't cut it. I drive with all traction control completely off and do not have traction issues, tho my car is a manual. Very first mod I did to the car was cold start delete via MHD tune. Thanks - good video, man!

[@ronaldo19832]

PotEnza re did pretty well for me too in the summer

[@isogamer12]

Super sports are stickier than 4S...hence being a “summer only tire” while 4S is all season. Cup 2 is by far the stickiest tire, basically a circuit racing tire

[@crujones5319]

@@isogamer12 Both are labeled 'max performance summer' tires and have the same 300 treadwear rating. Granted, the set of Super Sports I had was at less than 50% - they came with a set of used 666 wheels I bought - so maybe not a fair comp. I'm super happy with the S4's - except for the price 🙂

[@josefinkjellsson7051]

Yeah if you’re catless..otherwise it will not like it

[@DM-pm8hr]

How can you not like a long coldstart. Louder sound, so enjoyable!

[@jeromecardarelli3577]

Hi, Other defects: Quality of the front windshield, to be changed every year Sound quality Front seats, leg extension not adjustable Heat, make it necessary to tint the windows Ceramic brakes dangerous in heavy rain BMW service void if optimizations performed

[@ASCONTRACT]

I never had to reconnect my phone after I got my car a year ago. I think its a problem with your phone or idrive version so I wouldn’t tell others they will have issues with that

[@craigbishop90]

Same. I have an M2 and never had any issues.

[@joejay2876]

All good points, except the paddle shifter comment. M4 is for racing and tracking; most racers will rather have the paddle-shifters on the steering for easy access while turning while keeping full control of the steering. Conversely, having them on the column will leave you searching for the paddle shifter while turning. Now, on a

[@ZerumRmZ]

I'm a German BMW owner in Germany and 1) the torque isn't unpredictable in this car, it's the complete opposite. Torque will always kick in since it's a supercharged engine but it has a smooth torque curve compared to some other supercharged cars and it will come always at the same rpm so it IS predictable. Don't buy a supercharged car at all if you don't want this behaviour. 2) shift paddles at the steering wheel are way more expensive to engineer and to fabric than static ones. They are made this way for a reason: it's track optimized, so you can still shift if your steering wheel is in 90°degrees. The only thing you mentioned I find annoying as well is the sound of the window. But you can solve that pretty easy.

[@JoshuaJayMyers]

If I had an M4 I'd be too busy smiling to complain 😁

[@amadeuslala]

ONE THING TO BE ADDED AND UNDERSTOOD, THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOW RADIUS TURN IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUILD TO TURN, THIS CAR DRIFTS, SO YOU TURN THE CAR BUILDING REVS AND DRIFTING SAME AS U DID WHEN U TURN LEFT EXPLAINING THE HIGH ENGINE TORQUE. LIKE THAT AWE EXHAUST

[@SoonYouLLBe]

Spray WD-40 in window holes once every 4-6 months and there wont be no squeaky noises

[@hasan_440i]

Does it really work???

[@SoonYouLLBe]

@@hasan_440i it lubricates the mehanism and that makes the window regulator mehanism and motor work smoother, which helps reduce noise

[@hasan_440i]

@@SoonYouLLBe okay thnx bro 🤙 I am gonna do it for my f30 I hate squeaky noises

[@SwoleBravoo]

Isn’t it bad for the seals? It will deteriorate them quicker? A BMW SA got mad when I told them I did that in mine lol.

[@pascalolesen5187]

@@SwoleBravoo WD40 eats rubber apart. Do not listen to these ass hats

[@joaomelo1203]

Some of your complains don't make a lot of sense to me. The paddle shifters are good the way they are, if you drive with your hands on them they are always available when u turn, for parking manoeuvres use the shifter, this way you won't get mixed up. Turning radius like many said before just use that torque. The cold start with mine is ok, I have the stock configuration. Love this car, mine is a F80.

[@kevinb.jonesphotography4571]

Interesting. I rented a BMW M4 this past weekend in LA. I was taken aback as to the time it took to warm up. Thought something was wrong with the car at first.

[@ivanjezakonful]

What are you talking about cold start? You do not need to wait for revs to settle, you can, AND SHOULD go and drive right away because lubrication of the engine is much better when you drive compared to idle standstill. Keep the revs low until it reaches optimal temperature, but go drive straight away.

[@E4mafiagaming]

If your phone doesnt play music on your idrive system all you gotta do is hold the volume button down for two minutes. Let your idrive refresh. It will fix everything. DO NOT disconnect your phone.

[@MidWesti]

so basically the only thing thats actually annoying is pairing and unpairing your phone frequently.

[@StreetDrivenDaily]

Had mine for 2 years! got rid of it, stage 2 was fun, and manual trans - Car was putting good power but was never able to put it down, of course in rain it sucked, there was no first and second gear, it as the car would not hook! yeah I could go with better tires like R888R - but they would suck in rain! I don't keep my car's in the garage, I drive them! including winter time! I wanted a straight line car. I found a really good deal on a GT-R that was local! so I bought it!, pretty happy about it. Each time I get an Audi or BMW I don't keep it for too long! :-/ I'm awd turbo guy for sure! oh yeah the car threw drivetrain code ones but it went away! car had 50k miles when I got rid of it.

[@ronaldo19832]

True. I had the manual as well for almost 5 years. Even with the best tires and all traction controls off it was hard, basically impossible to put down all the power.

[@StreetDrivenDaily]

@@ronaldo19832 i swear f8x could be such an amazing drift car.

[@ronaldo19832]

@@StreetDrivenDaily you are right but I feel like they made it too heavy and big for what historically the m3 used to be. Every company is doing tho. The m2 cs I thunk it’s closest experience to a classic m3 handling and driving experience

[@mitchelldelgado2654]

so you did a whole video about 5 minor things: the long cold start (is 2 minutes even long? anybody with a sports car never pulls straight out of the driveway, i always let mine drop to 600 rpms before I pull out unless I'm in a rush) the windows squealing which you said is easily fixed with some product (any high end car owner takes care of their vehicle regularly) a bad turn radius, when many cars have much worse and you can easily get used to, and then torque curve, also known as turbo lag, which pushes power to the wheels at different times on any car with a turbo depending on the air flow and the gear you're in, (at least any car under $300k+)? I have a 435i which is the little brother, and even I lose traction on the turbo lag sometimes where my wheels will spin when the gears change, (you can also turn traction control on at all times) and then lastly you can easily fix the bluetooth issue by a. plugging in your phone, or having a mechanic reset the software. like you sat there and said how awesome it was, and even showed a random dude coming up saying how hard it is. Just seems like you're reaching. You even said how nice everything is made and how much you love it. Come on brother. This shit is hard

[@julienrocher1]

I lived in South Africa, a country which is very hard on cars. It was rare to see a BMW more than 6 years old. Mercedes and Toyotas were still running strong after 20 years!

[@jamesmedina2062]

even newer Mercs?

[@liambeyer5988]

The Cape Town bras abuse those M’s 🤣

[@Peter_Wang]

I thought about going with the M4 but ended up going with the 435xi (F33) as my weekender. TBH, I enjoy my 4 Runner more. I enjoy your videos, thanks!

[@greggomes9192]

Something hysterical about the fact that the hud still shows the speed when the speedo is blurred out in some shots

[@RomarScott]

Also when he tries to cover the license plate

[@jamesj8973]

The late tale kick is the turbo lag. They can say "no lag" all they want, but I can feel it even on my 328i

[@deezl1845]

Have my 2019 M4 competition for about 7 months. A little over 40,000 miles. Can't find anything I would change. No problems with the car at all.

[@JunGeRobben]

The iDrive system works great. If you have to reconnect it every week you should probably check your Head Unit or iPhone. iPhone is struggling with iDrive systems all the time... I don´t know why. You could try to update your iDrive so psz Data, that should help you out a lot

[@rshimtheman]

If you have the music/media connected via bluetooth, it will work fine, until you connect it with the iphone cable. Once connected with the iphone cable, you must either disconnect and re-connect the phone, but much easier, you can hit the options button when your phone is highlighted in the bluetooth menu, and just re enable the media directly rather than having to disconnect and reconnect the phone.

[@paulbarber8450]

I'm not surprised you are finding it a tad difficult to handle the torque delivery, if you're giving it 3,500 to 4,000 revs steering into a left hand corner/junction 06:37, - just an observation, sir. Also getting confused with your upshift and downshift, when the steering wheel is in a different orientation - is poor driving technique, sorry. 🤔 And may be advisable to keep Traction Control 'switched on', when driving around town.

[@fusion8745]

And the unpredictable torque is your turbo spooling up😂

[@oraclearl_fx]

These cars got wide front wheels,doesnt help with turning circle, the torque curve is peaky,its been retuned in the M4 comp, you can just have it tuned eith bmd3...yours sounds awesome tho

[@mark4210]

the popping of the exhaust would get too annoying after awhile

[@soldierviejo8224]

I hate the turning radius, I hate the high maintenance costs especially if you take it to the STEALership. I hate the Brake Dust from the Carbon Ceramic Brakes.. I hate having to reach back 2 miles to grab NY seat belt.....this car definitely needs that Seatbelt Butler thingy. I hate the stock exhaust sound, that will be my next mod. Love your channel Bruh

[@davissonnguyen]

I love the cold start! It is long because there is so much involve with the engineering in how it warms up all the oil through out the engine. Moreover, you can technically drive during the cold start mode but you'll notice your rev limited "red line is temp" shorter like 4,000 rpm so you dont damage the engine. If you abuse it- it will leak oil cause the pressure is balance and warmed up yet. (the famous oil leak!) So, yes always let the car warm up.

[@loicos555]

the cold start has nothing to do with the oil temperature but rather to heat up the catalyser.

[@SD_CRAWLERS]

When you talk about disconnecting/reconnecting your phone to play music all you have to do is press “radio” then go back to media and bam.. music will play

[@Aldo586]

Never heard a car guy complain about a cold start. I look forward to mornings lol

[@MrTurkeybags]

My friend just bought a used one of these. Its stock. He said he was gonna get a downpipe. I had a turbo german car bitd and advised him not to modify it if he wanted to keep that low torque curve. When i upgraded just my intake on my turbo the torque band was ruined then had to get many things to get back to acceptable. German turbo cars are finely tuned and once you mess with them they almost always run worse. Ive found turbo cars are way funner with the big torque starting low on the rpm. Otherwise you have to rev up all high and it just looses grip.

[@l4stwish]

for me as german a big issue is the tank volume. if often have to move from hamburg to berlin which ist 300km, you have to re fuel it when you go the 296km/h with the competition. the tank is so small, that 160km before berlin the reserve lamp starts to blink. due to that re fueling i'm loosing 10minutes. so if you take a normal car, with half the power you will reach berlin without re-filling and then it takes in average the same time. so an M4 helps me not, to save time even it's a super fast car xD only the M2 competition is more ridiculous with it's 52liters tank :D

[@HabibiC]

He did a 3 point turn when he actually had enough clearance to just go on second spin

[@FiendTheatre]

i threw up while laughing. you should see the parking lot of my local walmart. total gathering of the juggalos

[@randallschmidt6225]

Every BMW owner secretly hates their car deep down, but would never admit it publicly 😊

[@canadianloon6433]

I owned 2 and I got tired of socializing with housewives in service centers on a regular basis due to electrical problems I moved to Lexus RCF and I love it.

[@EAD_0]

Guess now at Lexus you just hang around with really old people dressed in beige

[@b577960]

I appreciate the video, but I wouldn’t find any of these things annoying or hateful as my M car is a weekend car. Warm up I do 2 min for every car I own. Squeaky window I could fix that in 2 min. Turning circle might annoy me a little. M4 badge on seats- put some clear vinyl sticker on them. Blue tooth connection yeah my 5 series does this too, Too much torque - no such thing sorry, but I wouldn’t be smashing the loud pedal as often as you.

[@kevindavis35]

Man, just be happy you got it 👍, your blessed

[@BeemerFam]

Facts!

[@TWHISPERER]

You're

[@kevindavis35]

@@TWHISPERER really

[@fezion1]

You’re*

[@jkv6079]

You're bro

[@proverbs3133]

Great review. Although this was supposed to be things to dislike I still enjoyed the vid. BTW, I have a M4 pushin 750 hp 710 to the wheel and I was able to correct all those minor things with proper tuning minus the turning radius.

[@Nakestra]

Wow. 700???

[@justinbaker6406]

I would dump that tune and get a proper one. You can seriously make this car into and absolute pleasure to drive with a $1K tune. I would personally get a different exhaust also. Otherwise I can seriously agree with all your issues. Great vid.

[@Dr.Noobster]

1 thing I hate is Why couldn't BMW default setting be Efficiency - Comfort - Comfort on startup and it's also not reprogrammable and no coding can change the default start up settings!

[@rikwarren3999]

Early BMW turbo charged cars are unpredictable. Torque surge is real and very disconcerting. You either stay in the torque curve and get 10 MPG or put up with the widow-maker. Naturally aspirated, not a fast, but better driving. Buy an e39 M5, a real car. Learn what BMW is really about.

[@daisydiamond1631]

i got this exact car and i’m wrapping it blue next month i love it drives so smooth!!

[@jacobf8213]

you just cant appreciate everything good about this perfect driver car..

[@ALPINE_M4GTS]

Perfect? 😂😂😂😂

[@CrimsonRequiem1]

For the price hell yeah

[@tylercouture216]

Nice e60 m5 man

[@ALPINE_M4GTS]

@@tylercouture216 what are you talking about

[@jacobf8213]

@@tylercouture216 hahahhaaa I had one , not my pic tho I have a f80 now

[@angelreborn1283]

i am using F10 M5....i never had any issue with Bluetooth connectivity with my iphone ...the only issue that i agree is the paddle shift placement on the steering wheel. Its a pain when i am turning it completely...other then that....long cold start....not an issue even though my car paired with meisterschaft exhaust...i just love to hear the loud rumbling cold start...just to annoy my neighbors :)

[@xabraxasx]

lmao cold start is the best part

[@stanh8071]

Aww I got the F36 GC.. just gonna have it wrapped 3M Satin pearl white, colfibre roof wing mirrors, interior colfibre to go with the red leather.. oh New Mfront and colfibre lip.. its having a reboost on the tuning up to 260 hp think 460 torque. Now then that should save me about 70k? Instead of buying an M4 competition. 😄

[@abc123fhdi]

I use the console shifter rather than paddles when I'm turning

[@JusZard]

What does have to with turning the car

[@abc123fhdi]

@@JusZard He was saying he doesn't like steering wheel mounted paddles for when he's turning. Shifting with the console shifter is easier than having to keep track of where the paddles are on the steering wheel when making 90 degree or more turns.

[@topcontentyt8172]

I like how you blurred the speed dial yet it’s all there on the head up display 🤣

[@michaelhiggins7072]

Paddle shift on the wheel is the correct way. Means the car is made for more than a straight line

[@ozzygiritli]

if you have an issue with the bluetooth audio, ie. no sound coming out, try switching to AUX mode then back to BT on the iDrive

[@mjames978]

Use silicone spray lubricant around your surrounds that contact the windows. Might need a few tins. Windows should run more easily. Will also act as a rain repellant.

[@arixramirez3701]

Only reason I didn’t get a m4 is cuz of the reverse camera car being a 428 so I drive a 07 Honda fit instead 🫡

[@TheRealE39M5]

number seven can be fixed with better tires preferable ps4s or cup2 and/or boost reduction on first and second gear, can be done by bootmode but with better tires you won't need the boost reduction. I pull off first or second foot to the floor no traction lost. Im guessing you got the super sports on, first thing I changed when I bought mine.

[@BeemerFam]

Thanks man I appreciate it

[@cudva12]

What % are you running in 1st and 2nd

[@TheRealE39M5]

@@cudva12 I didn't need to I switched to the ps4s’s combined with Thor for the Euro MDM and Diff. if you want to do boost reduction on the first two gears just do 20-30% on first gear and 20% on second. btw my pulls from first and second on euro mdm once the tires are warmed up do not lose traction. I don't see the need for the cup2s, my buddys CS is on them and they feel just as good as the ps4s’s

[@TheRealE39M5]

@@cudva12 im on the comp wheels which is a bit wider but shouldn't make that big of a difference from the 19s. Thor is now able to flash the CS EDC, better rebounding feels more planted, even better for acceleration. Euro MDM is miles better than the US version they gave us

[@cudva12]

@@TheRealE39M5 it’s crazy you mention that because I have been looking at the diff flash and euro mdm for a week now and there isn’t much info on the diff flash. Is it that much of a difference?

[@suspiciousstew2953]

About the turning radius, that's why BMW made it RWD so with a quick steering input and an aggressive stab on the throttle you can easily turn it around lol

[@youriinc]

As a owner of a bmw 218 active tourer, I've got no right to have an opinion about the M4.

[@ghostvardy6693]

I dont like how the m4s do not have the seatbelt bar that brings the seat belt to you after you close the door, but i understand why cause they wanted to save weight but jeez its a top of the line bmw.. why not the 428 430 435 and 440s have them...

[@blech71]

People complained for years about paddles being in the stalk and not the wheel itself. But I can see both sides of the argument.

[@jon4715]

stalk is the professional choice

[@danielporter9500]

Bought a 2018 m4 competition last year and it's the nicest car I've ever driven

[@andresparrow2971]

Thank you for making a video about things you don’t like. Lately you click on “everything i hate videos” to see all the pros on a car.

[@CrazyE32]

Cold start noise? Morning coffee I would say….

[@53xdj]

great video but, you could get a nissan micra with no seat badge wear , no window winding noise , amazing turning radius and of course a very quite start up. Yeah thanks for the heads up

[@Max_Da_G]

These are more a set of pecularities than bad things and are technically explainable as necessary I guess. Long cold start. 2 minutes is too long? Not really. Just watch the water temp gauge on ANY car. It takes about 2-3 min to get up to operating temperature. And modern engines are made of aluminium/silicon/magnesium alloy, which makes them more susceptible to bore scratching. So warming them up is pretty important IMO if you want the car to live longer. You also wouldn't care so much if it was quieter, but it IS loud from factory, and as a result it DOES annoy you more. Squeaking windows. EVERY car brand has that issue. It's not something you can avoid entirely. Live with it and manage it. Maybe even apply something to the wiping surface on the door itself. "Poor" turning radius. You mist have never owned a car with AWD. I realize that your M4 doesn't have it (hence why I love my 2012 Volvo S6 T6 Polestar :D) but again, this car is closer to a true sports car at this point than to a typical street car. More steering lock means more load on suspension and steering components. Also very wide wheels and tyres contribute to that, interestingly enough. Badge wear. Bro, every time you drive the car, you subject the badge to sweat (salts) and abrasion. Of course it wears after a few years. Also temperature changes inside the car don't help the finish. Agree on having to re-connect the BT. But that happens with every BT device. Sometimes it just happens. We just notice it more with cars. I'll leave the image of a 428i instead of M4 on iDrive alone. Why would you even think of turning off the reverse camera? Unpredictable torque delivery. No, it's a typical torque delivery of a turbocharged car with an aggressive tune. It's normal. If you want something that acts all progressive, you'd need something that revs more and has a softer boost ramp up. If you ever drove Japanese import, in most cases you'd know it. And to drive a high-powered car on the streets with traction and stability control turned off, and treating accelerator pedal like a cockroach is asking to get into a collision. Paddle shifters: You should NEVER shift mid-corner. It upsets the cars stability and can cause a spinout. You shift just before the corner, or on exit with the steering wheel centred. Every single shift the power is cut. Bro, that's called "Flat Foot Shifting". That is done to protect the driveline. If you ever watched modern race cars, they all do this. They ALWAYS momentarily cut the power. Completely normal behaviour of a car that approaches track cars in the way it's set up. Enjoy the ownership of a rocketship ;)

[@jamoin9639]

I like how the shifters are on the steeringwheel

[@wes2473]

Rite it’s so when ur turning u don’t have to reach back for the paddle shifter

[@jamoin9639]

@@wes2473 yeah

[@roach902]

Thats the worst thing about this car. Auto blows

[@Noddyunplugged]

@@roach902 yup. Auto on the DCTs is next to useless. It’s like trying to muzzle on a Rottweiler. It was actually quite good on the regular ZF8 autos though! But it’s actually almost dangerous on the dct 🤣 …slowing down at a junction then realising you didn’t need so you go back on the power and the ‘box is like, ..”urrrrrrm… right, one sec…urm..that one, nope, that one,” 😂

[@thomakis29]

This guy speak about a high level car like bmw m4 and what he saying problem here problem there ! I am very happy with this car.

[@coopertakakiMinecraft]

when the speed is blurred on the dash but not on the heads-up display. Love the video though. Keep up the good videos!!

[@akshayd82]

What should I expect to pay for a 2017 M4 cab with electronic steering wheel, comp 666 wheels, carplay with 61k miles? .. history shows 4 owners and 2 minor accidents (360 inspection passed)

[@christianjoseph7367]

For spirited driving or if I'm doing HPDE days at the track, I primarily use the gear shifter to change gears as opposed to the paddles.

[@johnulmerRacing]

Same here. Especially since it's in the proper sequential configuration where you pull back to shift up.

[@Solidsnake999]

So basically there’s nothing wrong with it

[@bencepuski7447]

Funny how you blue the speedometer to hide your speed but forget a about the head up display :)

[@drivetrain1746]

My M5 f10 cold start had 2 levels..idles high for about 15 secs then drops a bit for another minute before valves open on exhaust then normal idle. Thing is when the car is sat for a while after use it does the same but the second drop lasts for a good 2 mins or more before valves open. You can drive off but it's a bit jerky as the revs are pushing you along through gear changes until valves open again. This has got progressively longer as the car has got older...not a major issue just gets a bit tiresome sat there when you just want to get moving. Not sure what causes it but guess it's age/wear on some component?

[@Szilagyicsabaistvan]

I own a '15 435xd and i tought the bad turning radius was because it's xDrive? Turns out it's also bad on the M4.

[@RPMhunter]

That torque spike is a real problem, few guys I’ve seen crashed all of a sudden from the tail kicking out

[@RavensTalkPodcast]

I have the same year/model and everything you said is true 😂. Still love my baby

[@chriszeng1488]

1. gas consumptioncant 2. gas type 3. Cant drive in winter 4. Cant store it outside. Basically sports car sucks if you dont have a garage and money to burn as a average guy.

[@Playclu8]

I don’t notice the traction issue with my m4 cs, could be because of the tune or the cup 2 tires 😂 great vid btw

[@moesogood3584]

M4CS comes with wider tires. Where as the M4 comes with a really thin tire set up (common complaint from owners) also the M4CS was entirely built around the CUP 2 tires. Power delivery was also refined on the CS due to punchy/explosive torque delivery from the M4/3.

[@ryanjofre]

My family had 3 IS300’s…..they have a god like turning radius. Ultimate U turn machine. Except for the Turning Radius and the torque curve , all this stuff seems super petty and not very legitimate with respect. Even the greatest cars ever made like the McClaren F1 are gonna have little things if you nit pick enough.

[@evangeloT]

I’m happy for you because these are your problems…. ✊

[@CloudlifeTLX]

And there may not be cheap plastic on the interior but it’s definitely under the hood

[@cappov]

Love how you blurred the speedometer but the speed is on the HUD 😂😂😂🤣

[@JET-F82]

was looking for this comment lmfao