Beer Thunder: Why Was This Plane Down-tiered In Sim?

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Squishface (Drinks Beer And Plays WarThunder)

Күн бұрын

I fly out the F8U-2 and I yap about it.

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@benbased7740 2 ай бұрын

I think one reason why it's so strong is because it has the full package of things that are important to have at the low BR of 10.0/10.3: -is supersonic, has afterburner->has a definitive advantage over subsonics -can turn well enough for a supersonic, better than phantom -retains energy well, better than mig-21 -good gun armament -good missles, almost imposible to evade without CMs -has a plentiful ammount of CMs There is no single other plane at 10 or 10.3 BR that has a simmilar package. There are even fighters at higher BRs that lack some of those features. And in the 9.0-10.0 range most planes only have 1 or 2 of these listed features, so you can just abuse them.

@hiddenhidden5339 2 ай бұрын

Imagine overperforming by a full G of STR and no one noticing

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@hiddenhidden5339 Gaijin: It's within our margin of error. Skill issue.

@СергейНикольский-я2ц 2 ай бұрын

That 21F is a very sad plane that would be actually very cool if wouldn’t uptiered THAT much. I mean look at the F4D, the plane with one of the best TWR in game, over M1.0 max speed on the deck, fantastic acceleration, awesome guns with a lot of ammo, 4 missiles that are arguably better than R-3S’s (the same sh*t imo), awesome 40km radar, 24deg/s sustained turn rate at 600kph and with no stall speed sits at 9.3 meanwhile the 21F with no engine power, no radar (only rangefinder with 3km max lock range), with a gun that deals no damage and at the same time has only 60 rounds, with only 2 R-3S’s, with M1.05 rip speed that you won’t even be able to reach in horizontal flight on the deck, no energy retention, 15deg/s max STR at 700kph sits at 9.7, at the same BR with the Japanese T-2 that carries great (for the BR) radar and 9J’s(9P’s), at the same BR with the harrier C that carries 9G’s, 60 flares and digital RWR, at the same BR with the J35A that is better in every possible way than the 21F. There’re a few more aircraft that are incomparably better than the 21F that sit at the same 9.7BR. I just can’t get those guys who make decisions about BR’s. Look at the Su-27S, the plane that is better than the F-15A and Gripen in RB moved down to 13.0 in that gamemode but at the same time in sim it is still 13.3 while being soooooo much worse than the F-15A and Gripen’s in SB, how does it make any sense? It literally should have been the opposite, 13.3 in RB and 13.0 in sim

@scheherazade0xf 2 ай бұрын

best guns in its br. performance is practically an f5e mirror. has a really nice max rate squat at 650kph. was already badass before rip resistance buff.

@pouletbidule9831 2 ай бұрын

rizzy glizzy jizzy

@josippetkovic389 2 ай бұрын

it's perverted how you control your planes!

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@josippetkovic389 I try to make it look good. People might actually play the mode if it looks fun.

@josippetkovic389 2 ай бұрын

@@squishface80085 You have to "invest" in equipment first to play sim. Lets say 300$ on top of having decent PC. I don't think that kids or their parents have that kind of luxury now days. On top of all that Gaijin economy is not really friendly either. New player wants to play latest planes for which they have to grind and learn to fly in general. Your ideal audience for sim is adults who have both time and cash to climb the ropes. Someone with baked will and all that... There isn't a lot of people out there that fit into that category. It'd be hard to draw in someone from RB. If it was me I'd do RB matches intermixed with some sim content. You'd have to make it seamless. Speeds you maintain in a turn in sim match how that translates into RB and stuff like that. One dogfight at the time, you narrating along what is going on, what's your view of situation. Story of a hunt etc etc.

@C4Cole05 2 ай бұрын

@@josippetkovic389 You could definitely get by with a cheap stick and some keybinds, but having a full setup is a definite advantage, theres no beating the situational awareness of a VR headset or even just eye-tracking with just a mouse and some keybinds. I played a couple matches and my only kills were either with missiles or against slow or non-manoeuvring targets, as soon as I got into proper dogfights it felt like I needed a third hand to control where I was looking. I was also on mouse joystick mode which did not help.

@josippetkovic389 2 ай бұрын

@@C4Cole05 I agree, having top notch setup idea holds but you can do good on basic setup, good in Gaijin terms. Stick, pedals and IR are minimum basics to start. If you really want to bottom it down you can use keyboard and mouse with track IR. Nothing beats spatial awareness. Track IR is some 150$ I think. That's a lot for a kid. That's why RB beats SB playerbase vise. EDIT: Game is punishing by it's design. To go in on a minimum requires a ton of will.

@Vogelchen 2 ай бұрын

@@josippetkovic389I started playing sim with a 20€ stick on a laptop. Also played with gamecontroller for fun a few times. Dedication is a lot more important than equipment.

@RylanTempleton-w5l 2 ай бұрын

I like how the a-10c is still the best aircraft for 11.7 bracket and on 13.0 the best thing red team gets is the mig29G vs f-16’s and f15A and Gripens but yet we can’t get the Su27 at 13.0 or anything to offset the endless hoards of blue team

@clankplusm 2 ай бұрын

14:00 ironically the Mirage F1C / CT are same br as mld so it still fights irccm lol

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@clankplusm MLD was moved down to 11.3BR in last balancing patch. Mirage F-1C is still 11.7...unless the tech tree one is a lower BR.

@williewalrus 2 ай бұрын

Quishface

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@williewalrus Wawuz

@TransportSupremo 2 ай бұрын

Arguably the best 10.3, now at a low low price of 10.0

@engineer1941 2 ай бұрын

2:20 France is often in Red team and has F8E and i rarely saw anybody play F8 besides french players so i can see why they would fire missles at you.

@marty4286 2 ай бұрын

This is my favorite BR bracket, I wish it was way more popular

@MeanHereAT 2 ай бұрын

The only difference visually on the F-5's is the Roundel

@MeanHereAT 2 ай бұрын

The dessert camo is unlockable

@evancrisp7538 2 ай бұрын

You’re right about the mig19s. Would love to see them add at the very least counter measures. Unguided rockets can sometimes throw a missile but cannot be fired at high speed. No RWR Is rough. The overall performance of the 19s is great. Could possibly outperform anything in that BR bracket even on the high end. Would love to see a video of the mig19s

@RobertoMattes 2 ай бұрын

Mig 19 has RWR, it covers the 3 o clock to 9 o clock hemisphere and has no directional info. Its pretty crude but it help sometimes

@kizvy 2 ай бұрын

Cranking the wez

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@kizvy Jerking the hog.

@gween_val2551 2 ай бұрын

the u2 doesnt have radar missiles?? or does it in sim

@KomodoMeerkat 2 ай бұрын

Haven’t actually played this one, just the F8E (Love the 9Cs). But these at 10.0 ( agree much more fun going try hard around 10.7 area 😬)

@TheWarthog2012 2 ай бұрын

You better tell me how the f did f-4c go down on 10.3 and f-4e on 10.7

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@TheWarthog2012 F-4C is the same BR as F-4E in Air SB now. They are both 10.7 BR.

@InTheMood-fi3bh 2 ай бұрын

You can only carry the aim9c in groups of 2, so it’s ether 0, 2 or all 4

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@InTheMood-fi3bh That just goes to show how much I actually use them. (never)

@lameducky 2 ай бұрын

@@squishface80085 they're goated in RB

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@lameducky 🧢

@InTheMood-fi3bh 2 ай бұрын

@@squishface80085 how do you get your camera to go up for deflection shots? whats the binding?

@squishface80085 2 ай бұрын

@@InTheMood-fi3bh I have Track IR and my axis sensitivity for the Z axis is cranked up reasonably high so I just move my neck IRL to look over. There is also a head position movement bind that you could do with keys/buttons in the options.