I love the 8th symphony - so tight and compact. Someone once summed it up by saying how the 9th symphony takes until the 4th movement to explode into joy whereas the 8th does it from the opening measure.
@Chris-cb4igАй бұрын
Comme un retour de jeunesse ... Mais avec un Beethoven murit et TOTALEMENT génial dans ce qu il compose .
@pukupuku70652 жыл бұрын
I hope that listening to Beethoven will make the world peaceful.🙂
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
It DOES mate ! Dont forget his 9th: "All men will be brothers! "
@Chris-cb4igАй бұрын
I hope too. Et pourtant Beethoven pouvait être bagarreur ( pour la bonne cause )
@Opoczynski2 жыл бұрын
Notice at 20:38 the extra long, unexpected pauses. They make you hold your breath. Brilliant decision. After the 3rd and 7th, this my favourite symphony. When asked by his pupil Carl Czerny why the Eighth was less popular than the Seventh, Beethoven is said to have replied, "because the Eighth is so much better."
@ultimateconstruction4 ай бұрын
Wow interesting, source?
@JohnWhipp2 ай бұрын
@@ultimateconstruction Yes but to be fair, whether or not Beethoven ever actually said those words, it is a famous enough quote. Wikipedia cites "The Symphony: a listeners guide". pp. 44-47. Oxford University Press, 1995 (Michael Steinberg) as a source for this, but in any event, a quick google search returns ample evidence from credible sources that Beethoven is reputed to have said this.
@jgesselberty2 жыл бұрын
The 9th may end with the Ode to Joy. But the 8th is pure Joy from beginning to end.
@Quotenwagnerianer2 жыл бұрын
It definately is Beethoven's cheekiest symphony. It's like he is poking fun at Haydn's model of the symphony.
@lawrencetaylor41012 ай бұрын
@@Quotenwagnerianer And Haydn not only gets the joke but is laughing along with Luigi.
@harryhagan5937 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing that there are probably less than 50 symphonies in all the world that anyone cares much about! Each of these gems is like a fabulous piece of architecture; a building that we all love and revere. A building that never needs remodeling, and is perfect in every way, always and forever. It never ages, regardless of any new fashion. It lives and breathes and inspires throughout the ages. When this was composed there were no cars, trains, electric lights or telephones. No screens. Beethoven lives forever!
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
👏 🙏 🤝 👍Bravissimo ! Such a wonderful statement . . .
@TOTAL4576 ай бұрын
Brilliant execution. Beethoven makes you give 200% of what is expected of you. I see the musicians fight with their instruments as if in a battle. The energy needed to perform the last movement is extraordinary. A dedicated musician would rather die than not give his/her full body and soul full, unwavering commitment so that what Beethoven wrote comes to life and the symphony will ultimately reach the goal of its existence. Thank you, Beethoven. In his sufferings, he gave us the sublime.
@Chris-cb4igАй бұрын
En effet , Beethoven était comme cela ... On comprend mieux sa sympathie pour le général Bonaparte .. Je n ai pas dit Napoleon .
@douglasbrown82882 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is the best interpretation and performance of this symphony that I've ever heard. Järvi really understands Beethoven's most misunderstood and underappreciated symphony. And he gets the privilege of conducting the very fine Frankfurt Radio Symphony! We listeners are the fortunate beneficiaries of this recording. Thank you!
@peterwhyte3172 жыл бұрын
I think Parvi helped to make it what it is.
@peterwhyte3172 жыл бұрын
Sorri, Jarvi!
@lilalola332 жыл бұрын
Cello 🤣
@wdashwor Жыл бұрын
Wow! is right. I've never heard it done better! And I'm particular about performances of this-actually my favorite Beethoven symphony of all, believe it or not. 🙂
Thank you for posting this a little "forgotten" symphony by Beethoven. I specially like the Allegro vivace at 16:50.
@vinnyvid11 Жыл бұрын
So, here's Beethoven sitting at his piano and he decides to experiment with the dynamics of sound and tempo. Simply brilliantly wonderful. Can't stop smiling!
@netizencapet11 ай бұрын
Albeit he was fully deaf at this point so it was a conceptual thing.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Nice statement Vinny ! Master Ludwig once said he who has understand his music never EVER can be depressed . . . .
@joespencer4712 жыл бұрын
I always love Paavo Jarvi's spirited conducting!
@CNWitaly2 жыл бұрын
Interpretazione precisa, pulita e allo stesso tempo armoniosa e piacevole... Bravo Maestro Järvi e brava l'orchestra sinfonica HR!
@MegaVicar2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful performance of this elegant symphony! Thank you!
@curtisgrindahl4462 жыл бұрын
This outstanding orchestra has given me such great pleasure during the pandemic by making so many full length videos available on KZbin. This is a wonderful performance of an under appreciated symphony. I've been giving special attention to even numbered Beethoven symphonies that get less attention and have loved the experience. So fine! Thanks for this beautiful rendition... filled with joy. And as always done with great skill. The camera work and sound production are outstanding.
@martincaracoche46572 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with you Curtis. I felt the same. Thanks for the orchestra, and the wonderful team that make possible this very well filmed and edited videos. Greetings from Mexico City.
@harryhagan5937 Жыл бұрын
I second that emotion! Thank you all, h-r!
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
You are so right Curtis. These musicians are regularly so humble . . . since everyone is just a tiny part of a great orchestra . . . and yes, go on listening to master Beethoven ! He once said "He who hears my compositions will never EVER be depressed any more . . . My secret additional tip concerning Paavo as conductor: His wonderful NOTRE DAME interpretation (Franz Schmidt) Good luck to you !
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
@@martincaracoche4657 EL VIVA MEXICO ! So great to see fans of classical music world wide . . .
@Dylonely422 жыл бұрын
A great joyful symphony which is a bit less famous than 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th by the same composer. But still a masterwork, and thanks again to the orchestra.
@MrBPOfan2 жыл бұрын
P. Järvi has greatly influenced and shaped the HR SO as we know it today. He seems to be very beloved by both orchestra and audience. All sections, simply impeccable playing. At 14:20, the solo cello played in such masterly fashion, with perfect integration with the winds. Dynamics, rubattos... all there, perfect example of chamber music played within the orchestra. Listen again carefully if you will. Thank you HR SO for sharing such joyful videos.
@adamcathcart9 ай бұрын
great cello playing in the trio, but a lighthearted yet firm boo is merited to the film editors for not giving any visuals!
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
This is german precision and quality at its best (imho)
@alexanderhoffmann346 Жыл бұрын
Paavo Järvi ist ein genialer Beethoveninterpret. Im Unterschied zur 7. und 9. Sinfonie tobt in der 8. Sinfonie kein Krieg, kein erbitterter und leidvoller Kampf der Menschen. Es geht vielleicht hier mehr um uns selbst, als Einzelner. Wie frei und souverän sind wir? Ludwig zeigt es uns: er ist außerordentlich frei und macht, was er will, voller Energie und Originalität. Auch voller Ironie und Humor über sich selbst uns seinen Beruf als Komponist. Sehr oft läßt er die Musik in eine Sackgasse oder gegen eine Wand laufen. Er macht sich über die Formen und Stile lustig. Die Leichtigkeit der Musik ist so schwer zu spielen, dass die meisten Orchester verkrampfen oder die Musik zu seicht und flach interpretieren. Paavo dirigiert mit großer Leichtigkeit, Elastizität, Ausdruckskraft und Eleganz. Das Orchester kommt hörbar nicht an seine Grenzen. Im Finale des 4. Satzes kündigt sich kurz die 9. Sinfonie an, so als ob der Humor zu Ende wäre. Diese Sinfonie ist ein sehr guter Test, um die Klasse eines Orchesters zu prüfen. Paavo ist richtiger Vollblutmusikus, bei ihm ist die Musik völlig frei und nach allen Seiten ungezwungen offen.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
So wunderbar gesagt, lieber Alexander . . . mit so viel Liebe und Sachverstand !! Ja, nur ein GENIE kann ein anderes Genie erkennen . . . womöglich bist du ja auch eines (Musiker, Maler, Philosoph?)
@janmikolas8868 Жыл бұрын
I love this so much! Maestro Jaervi knows how to do a Beethoven..This symphony is full of really magic and very funny moments, but I think in time 22:17, that is something brilliant and exceptional!!! This transition from F sharp minor to F major, without any transposition!!! That is something amazing, never happened in music before Beethoven..I love this. (listen to this passage from approx. 22:00 and enjoy the moment later..).
@kevinvincenthalpin60892 жыл бұрын
Such a good, clear reading of this symphony. Bravo.
@donosodemaistre276425 күн бұрын
It is strange that there has been no Beethoven in recent decades. Today we probably have brilliant composers composing for other brilliant composers. But Beethoven is there for everyone, for amateurs (like me) and for true geniuses. 😊
@twicetwo2 жыл бұрын
Díky!! Paavo Järvi kombinuje sílu a virtuozitu:)
@Tubaka012 жыл бұрын
When I want to introduce my son to one of Beethoven's symphonies, I look for Paavo Järvi.
@knks27372 жыл бұрын
I love 8th symphony of beethoven and paavo jarvi is my favorite conductor. thanks for this channel.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
I thank Paavo and his wunderbar orchestra very VERY much. So overwhelmingly well done ! Without sweet music I would have been gone long ago . . .
@enriquenougues58502 жыл бұрын
Maravillosa orquesta !!! Maravilloso teatro !!!!!! El mejor nivel musical !!!!
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Buenos dias ! ! !
@stefaniegodeke33572 жыл бұрын
Schwungvoll, bei elegischer Linie mit sanftem Anhub.Schön zu hören.
@tt-ew7rx9 ай бұрын
The conductor certainly understands the role of double basses in this work. If you just concentrate on the bassline it's already a very enjoyable performance to listen to. Holding tune under a huge commotion above is just superb.
@rachelkerenpaz517317 күн бұрын
I read this was Beethoven’s favorite symphony
@Chris-cb4igАй бұрын
Quel Orchestre !! Quelle Direction !!!!!!
@lawrencetaylor41012 ай бұрын
Ninth Symphony, an Ode to Joy. Eighth Symphony, a truly Joyous Ode.
@Petr0syan2 жыл бұрын
Lovely symphony
@briankim52582 жыл бұрын
Wonderful 8th!!!
@notaire22 жыл бұрын
Wunderschöne und spannende Aufführung dieser pseudoklassischen doch perfekt komponierten Sinfonie mit seidigen Tönen aller Streicher, milden Tönen aller Holzbläser und brillanten Tönen aller Blechbläser. Der zweite Satz klingt echt rhythmisch und auch erfreulich. Im Kontrast klingt der dritte Satz echt elegant und auch bezaubernd. Endlich kommt das begeisternde und übezeugende Finale. Der intelligente und geniale Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Wunderbar und atemberaubend zugleich!
@tribonian38752 жыл бұрын
ach, ich hatte Sie schon vermisst.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
👏 🙏 🤝 👍 besser und schöner kann auch ich es nicht ausdrücken . . .
@tameryeniel92433 ай бұрын
Muhteşemdi. Kendimi akışına bıraktım. Özel bir ruh coşması...
@jauscielinginclusive38732 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Go to THIER concerts THIER great. BRAVO BRAVO
@netizencapet11 ай бұрын
Carl Czerny asked the Master, "why does the public love the 8th symphony less than the 7th?" The Master: "Because it's so much better."
@ultimateconstruction4 ай бұрын
Yes it is.
@miguelyuyi94158 ай бұрын
me encanta ese ritmo afrancesado que tiene esta melodía muy relajante y hermosa
@Bethman-c3p2 жыл бұрын
Tja, da hat der hr doch glatt die Berliner Philharmoniker in den Schatten gestellt 😍
@tribonian38752 жыл бұрын
In den Schatten gestellt ist wohl etwas übertrieben. Ich würde so sagen: das HR-Sinfonieorchester gehört mit zu den Besten der Welt. Ich bin mir sicher, das wird auch so bleiben.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
@@tribonian3875 Werden somit der guten alten Goethestadt voll gerecht
@SilvioNobre2 жыл бұрын
Extraordinário!
@job28792 жыл бұрын
14:19 horn
@Discovery_and_Change7 ай бұрын
1st movement 0:04 begins |
@michaelfrantz19402 жыл бұрын
Brilliant performance!!!
@AdamKolers-e2q20 күн бұрын
14:20 clarinet excerpt
@dongweilin53932 ай бұрын
Interesing speed.
@karum6mm30 Жыл бұрын
Kõik, mida Paavo Järvi puudutab, muutub kullaks!
@matthewlinaman8 ай бұрын
They should re-edit the video at 14:22 to show the impressively played and wildly difficult cello except :)
@dorette-hi4j6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. At 25:12 the cellist was asked to take a bow and was resoundingly applauded by the audience, and orchestra stamping their feet. Well deserved.
@DanielFerreira-ep6dq Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@LCMM21502 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@AdamKolers-e2q20 күн бұрын
Clarinet Excerpt 14:20
@andrewgreen72347 ай бұрын
bravo!
@MauriceBiron1 Жыл бұрын
Under Maestro Järvi's baton, this symphony is uplifting!
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Yes Maurice ! Master Ludwig himself would´ve cherished it VERY much !!!
@karlheinz93362 жыл бұрын
They switched clarinets and bassoons?!
@cellili2623 Жыл бұрын
14:20
@javiergarciaflorez98222 жыл бұрын
No es muy conocida 😃 pero tiene como todas sus sinfonías el regusto Beethoven
@tue-hainguyen36322 жыл бұрын
Sublime
@honorerigault27843 ай бұрын
22:07 magic
@user-pp4ky9xd4w2 жыл бұрын
4kなら電気屋さんのテレビに、デモ映像で流されるかもしれませんね
@michelbouchard75653 ай бұрын
20/20
@tedebesiosa71742 жыл бұрын
Felicidades..... .....
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
. . . con mucho BRIO !
@hudsoncampos22012 жыл бұрын
Bravi
@luissousa34205 ай бұрын
Me parece a única peça clássica do Beethoven!Fez as pazes com o período anterior
@user-cw5nt2gm5z2 ай бұрын
空いてるのが驚き😮
@arvindhkrishna2 ай бұрын
excerpt 20:00 !!
@celalnecatiucyldz820210 ай бұрын
beni tanrıya en yaklaştıran şey müziktir. la musique est ce qui me rapproche le plus de Dieu. Beethoven
@taeseokwoo7397Ай бұрын
00:04 03:48 04:00 04:13 05:57 07:12 14:27
@loreleidenton70007 ай бұрын
❤
@samuelbotsford78382 жыл бұрын
I like to watch Sebastián play the flute.
@vkkoorchester66611 ай бұрын
why doesn’t the description show a list of the musicians involved? they deserve it, no?
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Absolutely ! Every single one is a proud part of it !
@jfacts2113 Жыл бұрын
Beethoven is the greatest musical genius of all time. Nobody but Tchaikovsky comes close
@Dylonely42 Жыл бұрын
Bach, Mozart ?
@netizencapet11 ай бұрын
Agreed but don't leave out Mahler, son. And there is this force of the universe called Bach. Come to think of it, throw in the latter Bruckner too.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
@@netizencapet 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 yeah, Gustav is a VERY special genius. . . his Adagietto ALONE deserved him the temple of fame . . .
@dominiquepaul68772 ай бұрын
The fifth symphony played by the Ekseption was recoded in 1969 and the youngs of this year didn't wait "The Saturday Night Fever" for dancing rock and jerk on this Ekseptional cover! Beethoven couldn't say "no" to the using of his music for advertising and more with the misleading reason of making it famous among a larger number of people! The Doors were even more lucky because Jim Morrison asked for his music never be used in ads and his wishes has been respected
@mariocurasi2012 Жыл бұрын
Uff buena versión, tenía que ser de Paavo Jarvi
@faithyoun8 күн бұрын
4:22
@akihonishimura61006 ай бұрын
👏 自分用 14:28
@mats40126 ай бұрын
14:25 14:25 14:25
@ronaldbwoodall26282 жыл бұрын
Jarvi in attack mode!, almost swallowing the first measure in his haste to win the race with Toscanini and Mengelberg, while along the way missing some of their warmth and character, not to mention their humor. He may have followed Beethoven's metronome markings, but certainly not my internal ones. I couldn't relax.
@Quotenwagnerianer2 жыл бұрын
Your iternal markings are seriously off then. I heard Klemperer conduct it slow and at this speed and guess which is the better performance. The 8th loses all it's humour when the tempi are dragging. And I still can't for the life of me understand why 35 years after Norrington and Gardiner and others recorded, people still think this is being rushed. THIS is is how it is supposed to sound. Everything else is just too slow. Karajan, a drag. Solti, sleep inducing. Previn, boring.
@CFDavid8472 жыл бұрын
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a million times… people who complain when classical music is played “too fast” are dinosaurs who need to die out. They stand in the way of progress.
@ronaldbwoodall26282 жыл бұрын
@@CFDavid847 I have no way of even beginning to understand what you're trying to say even if you repeat it a million times. What I think you ARE saying is that in different eras or times, interpretative styles change with prevailing preferences, often without regard to, and/or knowledge of, performance practices in use at the time the music in question was written. While that, admittedly, may not rightly be called "progress", it does reflect the resultant capacity to realize that great music can withstand - triumph over - any change in manner of interpretation that the years may impose upon it. In other words, I agree with you that such a stance is not progress, and if you read my original remarks, you'll also realize that I wasn't complaining about Jarvi's tempo choices, but only of his (relative) failure to imbue them with the amount of warmth, character, and humor, that Toscanini and Melgelberg did. I'm not a score reader, so I readily admit that all three conductors could be well within any indicated tempo markings. "...haste to win the race", was merely a rhetorical phrase used to indicate that tempo, after all, is not the real issue.
@nikolai50125 ай бұрын
Why so many empty seats in the audience?
@donosodemaistre276425 күн бұрын
The concert was probably given during the C19 restrictions.
@user-js8yx5rz6z Жыл бұрын
14:20 cl
@jean-danielmartino96192 жыл бұрын
Dommage d'avoir supprimé plusieurs vidéos dont au moins 3 avec Hilary Hahn. Je ne pense pas que cela provienne de mon ordinateur. A noter que les 3 vidéos en question dataient d'1 an environ voire moins.
@jean-danielmartino96192 жыл бұрын
Je me réponds à moi-même : je suppose que cette suppression correspond à l'annonce de la parution le 7 octobre prochain du disque "ECLIPSE" enregistré par Hilary et Andrés dont deux extraits (superbes) sont déjà disponibles sur diverses plateformes numériques. Je me remercie de m'être répondu !!!
@LikeaQnimation11 ай бұрын
Airship assault theme💀
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha, much more a "nerve" assault thing . . . but a VERY excellent one anyway ., ., .,
@eva4adam4512 жыл бұрын
Great but fast.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
. . . like Beethoven liked it
@davidmoreau52475 ай бұрын
Don't you get it ??? He had a beautiful sense of humor...the 8th is his Musical joke !!!???
@markmmv10 ай бұрын
XVIII c. symphony parody
@amandayingluzhang22209 ай бұрын
贝八
@evankajikawa12772 ай бұрын
wow completely ignoring the poor cello in movement 3 😂
@robertoa.m.3984 Жыл бұрын
Almost all of them are too fast
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
? ? ? Say that to Paavo - if you have the guts . . .
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Do NOT forget that master Beethovens BRIO was exactly this way ! So no, sorry, NOT too fast . . .
@srednivashtar21879 ай бұрын
Terrible. Too fast. Too light. This is not Beethoven's music.
@AL_THOMAS_7779 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha, are YOU a conductor ? How can you be so sure . . .
@dorette-hi4j6 ай бұрын
Beethoven - slow and ponderous. Really?
@davidalderson49804 ай бұрын
Great, but a bit on the slow side.
@davidblackburn33964 ай бұрын
And we all know what opinions are like because everybody's got one.