Beethoven, Symphony 5, 3rd & 4th movements

[@Trepur349]

Beethoven's best piece and one of the greatest songs of all time.

[@네온-s6h]

I cried when the 3rd movement turned into the 4th movement, ‘Triumphant.’ That self-overcoming. That becoming. That ideal of hero. Those are what I need.

[@marc-emmanuelclement5403]

From France : Beethoven wasn't a businessman...he was a european Citizen after all !!...his music is our soundtrack !!!

[@lesscott4301]

Does it not frustrate you when the technicians that create CDs think that the last movement is the 4th track and therefore the is a dammed gap in the transition!!!!

[@miguffx]

TRIUMPHANT OUT OF THE MATRIX

[@vernots]

That pizzicato whisper to full-throated brass

[@Gabbleduck1]

These two movements must be in the top three pieces of music ever composed. They are truly inspiring.

[@bigmanjoewilliams]

+Harry Fowler Yeah they are

[@jrbleau]

Every part of the third movement is extraordinary, but the limelight he gives to the woodwinds from 3:28 to 4:28, then the storm beginning right after, with the triumphant segue into the 4th movement, is transcendental. Good god, what a composer the man was!

[@hoid8069]

jrbleau I also love how he reuses the motive from the first movement.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

*_4:48_**_ This buildup is beautiful_*

[@karlpiela5882]

So advanced and futuristic modern composers can not compare whatsoever!!!!!

[@Kyubiwan]

The last note was MAJESTIC

[@karlpiela5882]

So advanced and futuristic modern composers can not compare whatsoever!

[@GeorgeFanucci]

9:52 to 10:10 (especially 10:04) seems like John Williams may have used this for some inspiration?

[@victorpaesplinio2865]

I love this scherzo. The pizzicato at the end is amazing. And the way the piece gains momentum before the 4th movement is the climax.

[@alkishadjinicolaou5831]

The 5th symphony is n unbelievable ;masterpiece. The whole lot of it. Not just the 1st movement!!

[@python14444]

I've been waiting nearly 2 years for you to do the rest of the 5th Symphony. Thank you!

[@BreakerdeGodot]

I kind of wish this video included the full version of the 3rd movement. I know it's repetitive, but keeping the full scherzo-trio-scherzo-trio scherzo structure makes the transition to the 4th movement that much more triumphant.

[@gonnathrowyouatomato5304]

Does anyone know of a good recording of the "full version" of the 3rd movement?

[@deathbringer2336]

@@gonnathrowyouatomato5304 There’s a video of the full 3rd movement by a KZbinr named “ClassicalArchives” that is pretty good

[@newjerseydittohead]

The is a special thrill in hearing the music go from pianissimo to fortissimo in a matter of a second or two during the bridge between the third and fourth movements. The thrill is rather reduced when both movements are played in a mezzoforte.

[@Kyubiwan]

04:28 That transition from the scherzo to the finale is incredibly awesome. It just sounds like walking on a staircase to heaven.

[@GandalftheGolden1]

Beethoven's #5.3, my favourite of all masterpieces. Deep, deep, deeper still when the cellos dominate.

[@daveloutorres9651]

The last five chords: Take out the fourth chord. What do you get? A concise summary of the four note motif of the entire symphony. Thank you Beethoven for so many of these musical marvels

[@daveloutorres9651]

12:53 - 13:02 don't overlook how awesome that is! Long notes followed , after a slight downward trajectory, by three short notes! I know the four note motif is omnipresent in this symphony but there are so many that go by unnoticed!

[@jakewerner2495]

Whoever took the time to provide such a wonderful graphical representation of such a magnificent piece of musical work: you are great!!!!!!

[@smalin]

Thanks!

[@annbogden2847]

@@smalin no, thank you

[@rogerstill71]

As gratifying to watch as to listen to!

[@davidtores1617]

12:41 The angels of music becoming happier and happier and happier as they circle around Beethoven's imagination

[@SimPilotMika]

1:02 is the 1st movement motif, its all over the symphony and in other Beethoven works.

[@alenkavenx2056]

Which other works, for example?

[@SimPilotMika]

Alenka Venx like the appassionata sonata.

[@gameplayvideos9546]

Probably the best performance of Beethoven's 5th I ever heard.

[@marshadowking7859]

Do you know who is performing this?

[@Kyubiwan]

00:00 3rd movement 04:28 Cutscene 05:04 4th movement Honoka's solo part ("Todokete setsuna saniwa") in Snow Halation was quite satisfying, but the transition/cutscene (interlude) section between the 3rd and 4th movements of this symphony is much greater than that!

[@ahmadmcer]

thanks for the timestamp.

[@alanfite333]

I love the colorful graphics of the pitches! AMAZING

[@isaiahcruz3431]

I don't know why I like 00:23 so much

[@michellelongoria5637]

isaiah cruz me too

[@ryanwilliams9892]

it's a lot fun too play

[@lotavio343]

Me too

[@marc-emmanuelclement5403]

From France, To me, these 2 last movements are the perfect original soundtrack of Napoléon's legend, from victories to defeat and then Eternity… Even if ludwig didn't like him ! "just a man in fact" said he after The Emperor self crowned himself in Notre Dame...

[@Nicolas-hq7rw]

But Napoléon's symphony was the symphony n°3 which was renamed "Eroica". (If I am not mistaken...). Probably you make a link with Napoléon since you saw the video about General Lasalle on YB . (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmGxnXiqmZyEbKM)

[@jonathanvernot762]

Third movement recap in pizzicato works so well.

[@ishimarumitsuki3346]

love the mixture of march and beethoven

[@0live0wire0]

The beginning arpeggio figure is a nod to the 4th movement of Mozart's 40 symphony. A great master in the steps of another great master.

[@classicalricky]

17 people w/ no taste/talent disliked this. sad. this is beautiful.

[@dandominguez6512]

Okay, it’s beautiful & sounds amazing, but this’s 2018, not the 17/1800’s darling

[@kobebaird]

This sad, Alexis play little pumpernickel

[@annbogden2847]

@@dandominguez6512 what??

[@davenothere6957]

THIS...is what got me to subscribe to this channel. Watching and waiting for those horns to cut loose at the 23 second mark just did it for me. Beautifully done, these videos are.

[@smalin]

+dave nothere Speaking of horns, you might enjoy the trio of this (with a different format score): kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHOziJqOa9tmi7M

[@babylonm1963]

when I want to listen to classic music I just come to your channel. The sound is very clear, I can recognize each note accurately, the speed of the music is very fine... It's Just perfect. Thanks a lot

[@smalin]

You're welcome!

[@heraclitusblacking1293]

I watched this so intensely that afterword when i scrolled own to the comments, everything was shifting and kinda weird. I legitimately thought someone had put LSD in my coffee for a moment...

[@smalin]

The motion after-effects are to be expected (no need for drugs) ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_aftereffect

[@pedro3509]

I love Beethoven and Mozart. Pure genious!

[@annbogden2847]

My thoughts exactly

[@willzhang4136]

I love 9:16 to 9:47, it's really complicated but sounds perfect

[@eilialves6284]

Just perfect! It's the best part!

[@oscarstephanedeniau1305]

So bombastic ! All (not really) the grandiousness, all those feelings of joy, victory, triomph ! And the great mastering of the dynamics ! Those nuances... Those (this) movement(s) represents exactly what Berlioz spoke about : « Mais c'est au Finale que la Salle du Conservatoire eût offert un curieux spectacle à un observateur de sang froid. Au moment où quittant l'harmonie sinistre du scherzo pour la marche éclatante qui lui succède l'orchestre semble nous faire passer tout à coup d'une caverne du Blocksberg sous le péristyle d'un temple du soleil, les acclamations, les chut, les applaudissements, les éclats de rire convulsifs, contenus pendant quelques secondes, ont tout d'un coup ébranlé la salle avec une telle force que le puissant orchestre, submergé par cette trombe d'enthousiasme, a disparu complètement. Ce n'est qu'au bout de quelques instants d'une agitation fébrile que le spasme nerveux, dont l'auditoire entier était possédé, a permis aux instrumentistes de se faire entendre. » Merci encore de nous faire partager cette œuvre monumentale !

[@alenkavenx2056]

T'as commencé en anglais et t'as fini en français sant te rendre compte xD

[@jonathanmacpac]

It seems Beethoven did have some difficulty concluding the 4th movement. The original version had a longer ending. Beethoven thought it was too short, and added 16+ more measures of bombast. Then he realized that his original vision was not too short, but not short enough, giving us the conclusion we know and love.

[@emalikesmusic19]

"bombast" I love that

[@AnnieGalla]

Literally nowhere in his comment did he imply that genius's don't struggle. Yet here you are assuming he's some type of idiot for pointing out an observation that does not even have that much of a negative connotation to it. Could you be more of an uptight snob?

[@pbrower2a1]

Nothing says that genius implies ease. It may imply wise choices in refining one's work. People who can;t refine their work may be geniuses -- but not very good at what they are doing.

[@TheTurtleVillage]

Jonathan Vernot wasn't criticizing Beethoven, he was just pointing out the fact that he had to revise the ending a couple times. He had no point in saying that, he was just stating a fact. Have mercy on other people for their mistakes just like I showed you mercy for your error in judgment in responding so harshly over a false assumption.

[@jonathanmacpac]

Nobody needs to defend Beethoven, author of some of the best music in history. My favorite Beethoven moment is the Andante of sym. 7, when the fuguette that ends the middle section builds to the mighty final statement of the main theme. I get chills just thinking about it. Think I'll play it right now.

[@Nicolas-hq7rw]

I consider this masterpiece the best of Beethoven's art !

[@ulasuslu3481]

Smalin that's the best graphical score I' ve ever seen

[@IAmDylanPowers]

I like the finale. Of course, everybody knows about the first movement. A fun fact is that many people suggest that pieces in the minor key end in minor. In Beethoven's words, joy will follow Sunshine, sorrow and rain. In Beethoven's 9th Symphony in D Minor, it's pretty much almost the same thing that Beethoven's 5th Symphony does. The Fourth movement ends in D Major.

[@ewilson712]

That accelerando is legendary

[@sheeppoop9091]

A man who was reluctant to ever care about how difficult a piece was to perform for the musicians -- look where it got us today! He gave those gears of music a good ol' kicking, and added a few new evolutionary parts as well :)

[@ze_rubenator]

Well, Mozart is anything but easy to play. Especially his vocal parts are infuriatingly difficult.

[@ze_rubenator]

Matthew Chorney Yes, but Lizst was much later, and he knew that he himself was able to play it.

[@vanhouten64]

No greater music has ever been written than these ~14 minutes

[@napoleonsukk7770]

Mass in b minor?

[@napoleonsukk7770]

Or perhaps Beethoven’s 9 symphony

[@annbogden2847]

@@napoleonsukk7770 good day to you, Mr. Mozart

[@MiloDC]

This is phenomenal, no doubt, but the first movement of Beethoven's Ninth is the greatest music ever composed. Fact. Verdi and Stravinsky both said so.

[@Flumphinator]

Gave me such chills. Thank you for your work.

[@Kyubiwan]

1st mvt: Sinful world of destruction, Hell so close. 2nd mvt: Prayers, Repentance, Asking for forgiveness. 3rd mvt: (While still in the sinful world) Attempts to overcoming Satan, trying to resist temptation. 4th mvt: Heaven, Eternal life.

[@fazalinator]

Makes you heart and soul soar

[@sycabara9229]

woah after watching the video everything looks like it's moving to the right.

[@smalin]

See "motion aftereffect" in Wikipedia.

[@peterjongsma2754]

These visuals get inside the music amazingly. You hear so much more and with such clarity. Whole new musical experience. This should be the music when God appears. Too Good.

[@annbogden2847]

Well said🎶🎼🎵

[@ulilulable]

Wow, what a cool, intuitive and beautiful way of visualizing a whole symphony orchestra! I really like it. Btw, anyone else that get the feeling that Beethoven for the 4th movement was all like "wonder what happens if I string together all possible ways to end a piece and make a movement out of it?" ;)

[@pbrower2a1]

Maybe it is 'I can do more' with this'. Think of another masterful Fifth -- Mahler's Fifth. He keeps throwing something enticing in a primitive fugue that he can't quite conclude because he does not give us the climactic chord and then shows that what follows can only be anticlimax. That of course is clearly different from what Beethoven does here, as there is no anticlimax. But Mahler's last movement in his Fifth is decidedly longer, and his anticlimax shows that no matter how long the final movement is you did not really want it to end. False codas are tricks of the trade of masterful composers.

[@RamilVanRien]

12:23 that piccolo is amazing!!!

[@annbogden2847]

YES

[@IAmDylanPowers]

5:04 cool part.

[@gonnathrowyouatomato5304]

it's the beggining of the 4th movement

[@andresse1241]

09:16 Also

[@marcydeerfield]

THIS FUCKING SLAPS 🔥🔥🔥

[@47tilinfinity29]

did you come from the reddit post

[@marcydeerfield]

Prismismistic yerrrrr

[@b43xoit]

It would be interesting to have an interface where you could touch any note on the score with your mouse pointer and hear that note sounded in isolation.

[@ikschrijflangenamen]

Sekaiju lets you do that on a MIDI file.

[@RamilVanRien]

5:04 4th movement

[@oreodog]

I like the small thing you did at the end, with the blue :)

[@chanchoinva]

Thanks for the great music smali and letting us look at the mind of a musical genius.

[@pablosorbara2280]

The transition beetween the two movements reminds me of the transition beetween the Opera and the rock part of Bohemian Rhapsody...

[@sofiablandonquiroz6407]

It's the Tbilisi Symphony Orchestra, and Jansug Kakhidze is the conductor. :) The album is "The symphonies Vol. 4: Specific symphonic pieces (Symphonic drama in the 18th century)"

[@GolightlyR3]

That's I was wondering, It is one of the better renditions getting around.

[@acialist]

having the score of this really helps to know when the last movement starts. It's rather obvious to me now. These videos definitely make it easier to follow along in a score though.

[@Dracorex13]

Do I have this right? I think I do, but I'm not entirely certain. C: Blue C Sharp: Olive D: Purple E Flat: Teal E: Red F: Cerulean F Sharp: Yellow G: Indigo G Sharp: Green A: Magenta B Flat: Cyan B: Orange

[@smalin]

See the link in the FAQ.

[@Dracorex13]

I WAS right! Thanks! I like these videos and what you're trying to do. I love classical music, but regular music sheets can be confusing and these are interesting ways to visualize music.

[@matthewpiper6526]

Amen. Thanks again, Smalin, for the gift.

[@Gabbleduck1]

Brilliant . I love it.

[@Yup900]

Magical!

[@eunaekim9216]

Wondering where the fourth movement starts? It's at 5:04.

[@Wherrimy]

Can't find where it ends, though.

[@Connor-fj5rc]

Yeah, that's technically where it ends, but Beethoven wrote these two movements so that the 3rd would seamlessly transition into the 4th. That's why it's so hard to differentiate between the two.

[@DaDennyH]

Spectacular!

[@jakewerner2495]

incredibly mathematical and simultaneously artistic. How can we arrive at such a medium in modern day? It seems the lines are drawn between the two, when in actuality are co-dependent.

[@guge2835]

I can't speak to the musical side of things, or just how related music and mathematics are, but, at the least, I think it is safe to say that there is a great ignorance about what exactly mathematics is that would prevent it from being associated with any sort of art in the modern day. You might find a document called Lockhart's Lament interesting if you're curious about the state of mathematics in culture

[@annbogden2847]

@@guge2835 WOW

[@blizzardballz]

so many fantastic colors

[@abinashmishra329]

You can’t have the 3rd movement without the 4th...just like you cannot have Jackson Browne’s Load Out without Stay

[@cdiegorodriguez]

May I ask why you didn't include the repeat at 7:00 where it's supposed to restart at the beginning of the movement?

[@smalin]

You'd have to ask Adina Spire.

[@Kyubiwan]

The last six chords were later re-used at the end of Dvorak 9 finale.

[@leonhardeuler6811]

Main theme of the last movement is C E G (in half notes) then F E D C .... You can divide the motif into two part, the triad C E G and the scale G F E D C In the coda Beethoven plays with these two ideas Triad: 11:56, 12:20 Scale: 12:41 Triad again (first note accentuated by timpani): 12:53 Scale again in case you missed it the first time: 13:03 Beethoven didn't do this by accident. He does a similar thing in the Harp quartet (which shares many aspects with the fifth) finale also in the accelerando.

[@leonhardeuler6811]

Also 13:10 is a canon of the main theme, finally in plain sight.

[@leonhardeuler6811]

For a golden rule, whenever Beethoven has an accelerando (and a long coda), he's hiding a motif somewhere (in his later periods at least), he always does it.

[@wesleybuckwalter2558]

John Williams 5:50

[@calen7255]

Nah mate, Beethoven was ripping off the theme from 'Willow' (apologies if Willow was done by Williams hehe)

[@colitipal]

You can tell because of the raised fourth degree of the Lydian mode.

[@callummccormick86]

When we finally blows ourselves up, you have to hope this music survives somewhere in the rubble so people will know it wasn't all bad.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

*_Don't cry because it's over. Cry because that's hella cringe_*

[@mura45442]

very nice, arigatou gozaimas.

[@HAL9000-r8u]

My music teacher made an arrangement of this for my string orchestra, he had to go through over 95000 notes.

[@fredkiana1972]

Incredible! I love it!

[@ohmm1915]

4:28

[@mahmoodiaco]

Ba Ba Ba Baaam, Ba Ba Ba Baaam, Ba Ba Ba Baaam Ba Baa Ba Baaam.

[@ChrishanSilva]

13:18 Ultimate warmth of C major

[@trueblack6760]

I love this except the color choice. I have a image for each note and this is so great to understand the every instruments are coordinated by one guys mind. Only bad thing happen to me is after watched this display, even after the music, my eyeball moves right to left in quite a speed for a minute...

[@smalin]

Are you saying that you don't like it that I've used Harmonic Coloring ( www.musanim.com/HarmonicColoring/ ) itself, or that my choice of which colors to use for Harmonic Coloring aren't good? (As for the motion after-effect, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_aftereffect )

[@trueblack6760]

@@smalin Thank you for your reply! Now I do understand your equal-different order idea mathematically. But how about simply assigning the color accordingly to the Hz, I mean just in the order like C, C#, D#…. Then I think you could get more balanced coloring widely spread in the color circle. Please accept my apology in advance if you have already tried it, or if my English bothered you. I found your work today and start watching amazed by your variation of visualizing method.

[@LucianoHelenodaRosa]

Thank you, smali

[@chefjaike]

With these lights and symbols....I feel like I'm bowling with Beethoven....and The Dude. ;)

[@Gabbleduck1]

Brilliant,

[@jakewerner2495]

ingenious!

[@rsplayer07]

8:38, is this a return to the 3rd movement?

[@treeskates]

No, the 4th movement begins at 5:05. Many motifs do repeat though. And the dot dot dot dash four notes are heard throughout the entire symphony.

[@deathbringer2336]

Yeah tree is right. It’s not a return to a movement, but it is referencing the 3rd movement. The 4 note motif is present throughout all 4 movements of the symphony

[@mkpianofab]

I have perfect pitch. However, I don't have that perfect pitch where I associate a certain pitch with a certain color. That must be maddening! So seeing whatever color for whatever note doesn't bother me. I also just like to listen while watch the full conductor score.

[@ze_rubenator]

+mkpianofab You're thinking of synthesia. I don't think there's a particularly strong connection between the two, because perfect pitch can be taught, but you are born with synthesia.

[@pascaldespinasse8136]

delicieusement hypnotique !!

[@nevadodelruiz949]

Victoryy!!!!

[@vasilipanin8978]

Please do a 3D animation of the orchestral version of peaches en regalia :-) if you have the time.

[@smalin]

See "Could you please ..." in the FAQ.

[@vasilipanin8978]

smalin where is FAQ?

[@smalin]

Bui Panin In the "About" text for this video.

[@CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando]

Can I make a suggestion about the timpani, I think you will be more easy to identify if the format is also a timpani (like a bowl).

[@smalin]

The timpani has a white aura.

[@h5g43579]

explain to me what happens please

[@lalloushhayg2656]

Proud I am subscribed to you!

[@Gabbleduck1]

Absluteley Superb, please do Vaugn Wiliams variation on a theme of Thomas Tallis.

[@smalin]

See "Could you please ..." in the FAQ.

[@Kyubiwan]

Smalin, you forgot to light up all the notes in orange when the piccolo, contrabassoon, and the trombones started playing!

[@charissamarluk]

thank you steve...!!!

[@endiahguyton1475]

amazing

[@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386]

the fugue part begins at 1:52 and ends at 3:16.

[@israelasiku3975]

The symphony that showed Ludwig van Beethoven at his prime!!!!

[@fatih-hx3bm]

listen to more music

[@dovlifson3]

Beethoven didn't know when to end so he just kept on going. that ending just keeps on going on and on lol

[@MrChinessefood]

very very beautiful