Beethoven - Symphony n°9 - Berlin / Furtwängler 1942

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@AndreasBorucki
@AndreasBorucki 10 ай бұрын
Ich hatte Furtwängler bisher ignoriert wegen seiner Verbindung zu den Nazis, bin eher durch Zufall hier gelandet und höre gerade Beethovens 9. als hätte ich sie noch nie gehört. Ich kenne alle gängigen Aufnahmen, es gibt viele begeisternde, die 2 Kleiber, Klemperer, Scherchen, Celi... aber ich bin noch nie so beeindruckt und mitten in der Musik gewesen!! Es bestätigt sich der schöne Satz: Ignoranz in der Jugend bringt Freude im Alter. Gesamtaufnahme kommt, 55 Cds, ich freue mich auf 4 Wochen Glück am Stück.
@thebigstink7472
@thebigstink7472 8 ай бұрын
He was not a Nazi in the slightest.
@cm5071
@cm5071 7 ай бұрын
Furtwängler war kein Nazi, er hat sich sehr für die vier jüdischen Mitglieder der Berliner Philharmoniker eingesetzt (und verloren), für Hindemith (und da auch den kürzeren gezogen), danach ist er von allen offiziellen Funktionen zurückgetreten sowohl bei den Berliner Philharmonikern als auch an der Berliner Staatsoper und in der Reichsmusikkammer. Er hat allerdings auch KdF Konzerte gegeben und in besetzten Gebieten, Konzerte für den Führergeburtstag meist mit medizinischem Attest vermieden. Allerdings sind von ihm auch dumme Äußerungen überliefert, wie die: das deutsche Volk in dieser Stunde der Not nicht alleinlassen zu können. Ein Nazi, sicher nicht, er hat herumlaviert und das Gefühl gehabt, Deutschland wegen seiner kulturellen Wurzeln nicht verlassen zu können. Das Selbstbewusstsein Thomas Mann's: "Die deutsche Kultur ist, wo ich bin", hat er nicht gehabt.
@grigoriosrizakis8515
@grigoriosrizakis8515 3 ай бұрын
@@thebigstink7472 basically he never criticized Hitler's politics, and he was the conductor of the Berlin orchestra back at the time. After Hitler asked him to play one of Beethoven's symphonies, he refused and was kicked out. There is a nice documentary here, I suggest it in case you haven't watched it.
@xj457xj457
@xj457xj457 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best version ever in history. Thanks God the sound is not good, otherwise there would have not been any need to record the 9th symphony ever again.
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 2 жыл бұрын
What a ridiculous statement
@concerned1
@concerned1 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxsaruman82xx87 welcome to KZbin.
@juanuceda401
@juanuceda401 Жыл бұрын
????
@vlad3192
@vlad3192 Жыл бұрын
Its funny how people argue these days about differents tastes in music
@illegalewahrheiten2911
@illegalewahrheiten2911 Жыл бұрын
There is no need to record it again. All these "better sound" recordings are vastly inferior.
@filipjandus4537
@filipjandus4537 11 ай бұрын
This record gives me the goosbumps. Played with so great energy! Many professional orchestras miss it nowadays. They should have recorded the following applause too.
@Esgovar
@Esgovar 9 ай бұрын
¡Furtwängler, genio Director de Orquesta! Único..❤❤❤
@Claugremusique
@Claugremusique 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest version of all time by far, which takes us to another world!!! What intensity, power, breath and esoteric passion as Beethoven would have wanted! !!!
@carlonordio4668
@carlonordio4668 3 жыл бұрын
I agree unsurpassed. The best of the best
@algirdpatrick5048
@algirdpatrick5048 3 жыл бұрын
Not to take away from Furtwangler - but have you heard Fritz Bush's 9th with the Danish radio orchestra - 1951. In my opinion it ranks as one of - if not the greatest. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5-WhaqCjN6hpJI
@joseluisgimenezperez909
@joseluisgimenezperez909 2 жыл бұрын
Perfetion!!!
@peterheisler4648
@peterheisler4648 2 жыл бұрын
A cry for freedom in Nazi Germany
@joseluisgimenezperez909
@joseluisgimenezperez909 2 жыл бұрын
Ya!--!!
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Après une telle écoute de cette interprétation, on en ressort pas tout à fait indem, oui ,vraiment, cet homme était bien et est bien le plus grand chef d'orchestre de tous les temps, merci Furtwangler et encore plus à Beethoven pour un chef d'œuvre aussi sublime
@camillebadoux2891
@camillebadoux2891 Жыл бұрын
Lorsque le génie de l'interprétation se met au service du génie de la création, il nous offre des moments d'éternité ! A chaque fois que l'on écoute cette merveille, elle devient encore plus émouvante et plus belle . Gloire à ces hommes qui nous font goûter le Paradis .
@ionediasadv
@ionediasadv 5 жыл бұрын
Beethoven + Furtwängler = sublime!!!! Greetings from city of Juiz de Fora, Brazil!
@alexsandroalvesartecultura5116
@alexsandroalvesartecultura5116 3 жыл бұрын
Os alemães nasceram para a música.
@nihil7385
@nihil7385 2 жыл бұрын
MT pica
@cedericocosantorini8013
@cedericocosantorini8013 2 жыл бұрын
Le meilleur second mouvement que j'ai eu le privilège d'entendre ! Extraordinaire !!!
@cedericocosantorini8013
@cedericocosantorini8013 2 жыл бұрын
...idem pour le troisième !!!
@metanoia322
@metanoia322 Жыл бұрын
ESTE GIGANTESCO DIRECTOR DIRIGE COMO SI FUERA EL MISMISIMO BEETHOVEN EL QUE DIRIGIERA, GRANDES AMBOS.
@JoseMedina-sv8uy
@JoseMedina-sv8uy 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite version of the 9th. I love Beethovey and Furtwängler. Thanks for sharing.
@bonazzaenrico
@bonazzaenrico 2 жыл бұрын
Ogni volta che ascolto la nona è come se la musica si impadronisse della gestione del mio corpo, del respiro, del battito cardiaco, ansie, gioie e paure. L’ascolto di questa versione è stato molto singolare, per alcuni versi è stato come sentirla per la prima volta. Devo riflettere
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très bien parlé
@xarisstylianou
@xarisstylianou 5 ай бұрын
I can not find fault with any classical vomposer , I can not help and wonder what music they wond come up with today???? ❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍
@richardresseguier1
@richardresseguier1 8 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@richardresseguier1
@richardresseguier1 8 күн бұрын
Sublime
@sdeveau7970
@sdeveau7970 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing to say. Perfect. It is like getting run over by a Tiger II but in a nice way. Greatest conductor ever.
@grantowen6992
@grantowen6992 3 жыл бұрын
instaBlaster...
@nickie2011
@nickie2011 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@seanforgor
@seanforgor Жыл бұрын
Getting run over by a tiger II 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MrHschumann
@MrHschumann 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful performance. Gives the lie to David Hurwitz rant.
@leonardogiacobbe5422
@leonardogiacobbe5422 6 жыл бұрын
Per me questa è la più grande interpretazione di sempre,superiore anche a tutte le altre che dello stesso Furtwangler ci sono giunte.Ha accompagnato i momenti più belli e quelli più difficili della mia vita,dandomi gioia,commozione e conforto,sempre.Se è vero che la bellezza salverà il mondo,questa musica è salvezza e vita.
@alessandrocommellato1479
@alessandrocommellato1479 3 жыл бұрын
Come no! Infatti questo è il concerto del 1942 per il compleanno di Hitler, in piena guerra, a cui assistettero tutti i gerarchi nazisti e Goebbels in prima fila. Questa bellezza ha proprio salvato un beato cazzo
@alessandrocommellato1479
@alessandrocommellato1479 3 жыл бұрын
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@fabriziogarzi9892
@fabriziogarzi9892 2 жыл бұрын
Una esecuzione meravigliosa, incandescente, fosforescente. Purtroppo da tempo non esiste l'eguale non ostante alcuni grandi direttori abbiano tentato di almeno eguagliare.
@Esgovar
@Esgovar Жыл бұрын
El mejor Director de Orquesta , aunque el sonido no están bueno pues entonces no tenían la tecnología de hoy. Pese a eso me encanta Furtwëngler, el tenía que ocuparse de su Orquesta, no los podía dejar sin comer , eran tiempos difíciles. Lo admiro más, pues eran tiempos muy peligrosos. No era egoísta, vió por todos. Amo a este hombre.
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très beau texte
@notaire2
@notaire2 5 жыл бұрын
Spannende live Aufführung dieser ewigen Sinfonie mit perfekt synchronisierten und gut harmonisierten Töne aller Instrumente, klaren Stimmen aller Solisten sowie kräftigen Stimmen des ganzen Chors. Der unvergleichliche Maestro dirigiert das weltklassige Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo mit dramatischer Dynamik. Die Tonqualität ist auch ziemlich hoch als eine Aufnahme vom Kriergsjahr 1942. Einfach wunderbar!
@demcadman
@demcadman 9 ай бұрын
This was the best time for the arts, esp interpretations of Wagner, Mozart & Beethovan.
@giorgiodecolori4206
@giorgiodecolori4206 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven grazie a Furtwangler ci dona una potentissima iniezione di autostima , dalla quale possiamo trarre la forza per vivere come esseri umani . È il massimo cimento che ci è dato. Grazie Ludvig ,onore a Furtwangler Giorgio Decolori
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
the drummer is the real star of this performacne, especially in the first movement
@johncitizen9540
@johncitizen9540 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard Furtwangler's 1951 recording of this symphony? I heard it yesterday for first time after hearing this one several times. The percussion is much more conventional in that performance. I was a little disappointed by that. Here it sounds like they're trying to smash the timpani to pieces.
@seanforgor
@seanforgor Жыл бұрын
You mean the timpani?
@clarainesroldanreina1426
@clarainesroldanreina1426 2 жыл бұрын
This is jus simply the best execution
@Smokey6633
@Smokey6633 Жыл бұрын
The slow pace up to the 6/8 is gorgeous
@camillobenso468
@camillobenso468 2 жыл бұрын
I crescendo e accelerando di Furtwangler conferiscono una drammaticita' unica alla musica, senza distruggerne la coerenza. Questo e' terribilmente difficile a realizzare .Roba che solo geni musicali possono permettersi.
@francescaemc2
@francescaemc2 Жыл бұрын
Ben osservato. Sono completamente d'accordo.
@p.a.cthegoldenageofmusic3279
@p.a.cthegoldenageofmusic3279 Жыл бұрын
È tutto scritto nei trattati dell' epoca e messo in pratica nella prassi dei direttori...e musicisti della tradizione..da Beethoven a Wagner a Schumann a Brahms fino agli anni 40 ..poi tutto è finito nelle mani del metronomo...come se un cuore dovesse battere per tutta l interpretazione sempre allo stesso tempo quando sappiamo che il cuore accelera e rallenta con le emozioni...
@camillobenso468
@camillobenso468 Жыл бұрын
@@francescaemc2 Infatti...L'era tecnologica (dove tutto si misura e si conta), ha permeato anche l'interpretazione musicale mettendo cosi' fine ad una grande tradizione.
@varpurantanen
@varpurantanen Жыл бұрын
Really the best ever; I've always felt that in all the concerts and recordings I have heard the finale seems to kinda fizzle out after that fabulous start - but not here. Brilliant!
@ricksanders3996
@ricksanders3996 6 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😮
@aleksandarfrick2656
@aleksandarfrick2656 2 жыл бұрын
Best recorded conductor ever .
@lqstone
@lqstone Жыл бұрын
Amazingly beautiful.
@b.murenthaler
@b.murenthaler 4 жыл бұрын
outstanding performance forever ! furtwängler the genius master ! 👏👏
@JoseMedina-sv8uy
@JoseMedina-sv8uy 4 жыл бұрын
Considero esta versión un patrimonio de la humanidad. Saludos desde Hermosillo, Sonora, México.
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très belle phrase
@jaysoper3974
@jaysoper3974 3 жыл бұрын
today is the 250th anniversary of the most significant of births - stop wretched world & rejoice!
@SimarutLapisatepun
@SimarutLapisatepun 8 жыл бұрын
1:12:49 - *The most final part... It's tempo is like PrestisSISImo!!!*
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
7:02 and let the greatest musical heroic transcendent godly heavenly humanely glorious ambitious striving elevating celestial JOURNEY BEGIN! Thank you Ludwig van, shukran jazilan :-)
@waterglas21
@waterglas21 2 жыл бұрын
Its sounds like punk music
@LuisMiyoshi
@LuisMiyoshi 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing and incredible performance for Beethoven!! The Best at Symphony Nr.9!!
@orfeo117
@orfeo117 Жыл бұрын
Resulta "difícil asociar"a BEETHOVEN,con FURTWÄNGLER Y HITLER mientras se escucha este MONUMENTO registrado en 1942...con esas voces e instrumentistas ....en Berlín...que tres años más tarde ERA EL INFIERNO EN LA TIERRA....Y toda Europa devastada...y considerando que el GRAN LUDWIG no pudo "escuchar"está maravilla.... Lo único ETERNO continúa siendo lo más INASIBLE...la MUSICA....
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très beau texte, félicitations
@sdeveau7970
@sdeveau7970 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention that Beethoven's 9th is the greatest composition ever.
@acromiton
@acromiton 3 жыл бұрын
That'd be either his 7th or his 5th, I'll let you choose
@wlrlel
@wlrlel 3 жыл бұрын
@@acromiton I love these two too...but imo they can't reach the 9th . So where comes your opinion from? I'm just interested, not offended
@fabriziogarzi9892
@fabriziogarzi9892 2 жыл бұрын
S Deveau, non e' mica vero. Secondo i tuoi gusti.
@ptolemaios5364
@ptolemaios5364 2 жыл бұрын
@@acromiton not even close
@travis07ful
@travis07ful Жыл бұрын
I love the 9th but the Eroica is something
@aticbg01
@aticbg01 9 ай бұрын
Génial , indépassable !
@mathiascuypers533
@mathiascuypers533 9 жыл бұрын
The ending is insane^^
@joseluisgimenezperez909
@joseluisgimenezperez909 3 жыл бұрын
Likes Ludwig!!!
@nasshibahara
@nasshibahara 5 жыл бұрын
What a genuine perfection.
@Jannette-mw7fg
@Jannette-mw7fg Жыл бұрын
Beethoven the best composer that will ever live on this earth, needs the best conductor that ever lived and World War 2 to play his music as it should.....earth shattering ferocious, beautiful vulnerable, exciting joyful rapture and haunting forceful at the same time...
@davidjaumot5332
@davidjaumot5332 3 жыл бұрын
Para mi la mejor 9 de Beethoven
@user-user-user-user.
@user-user-user-user. 4 жыл бұрын
This bombastic, ferocious interpretation of #9 obliterates everything in its path in Wermacht-like fashion. Fuetwangler, quite simply, devours the competition. This is #9, par excellence. The pinnacle of 20th century symphonic offerings. No other comparisons.
@IsomerSoma
@IsomerSoma 3 жыл бұрын
Disgusting comparison.
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 3 жыл бұрын
At least someone who understands .... thank you
@kable321
@kable321 3 жыл бұрын
"bombastic" is hardly a term of praise
@user-user-user-user.
@user-user-user-user. 3 жыл бұрын
@@kable321 That’s because you don’t understand.
@ginsan9854
@ginsan9854 3 жыл бұрын
Karajan.
@duwir5959
@duwir5959 4 жыл бұрын
I ever thought that this was the best version of the ninth, what a deep (nearly philosophical) approach. The bars are bursted. Klemperer and Walter has also great 9th´s, but Furtwängler are unforgetable. Today nearly every conductor hurries at the 9th, no big breath.
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
Karajan 1962-1963 version is by far the greatest 9th symphony ever period. I can't believe there is even a debate. His drums in the first movement and cello and double bass in the second movement are the genius in Karjan. To perfect Beethoven symphonies, it is ALWAYS about the lower strings, and Karajan understood that!
@duwir5959
@duwir5959 3 жыл бұрын
@@ludwig4713 Karajans 63 is great, right. But if you read amerecan critics they apreciate Fricsay, Jochum and even Isserstedt. The orchestral playing at Furtwängler is not well, it ´s during 2nd WW.
@Methilde
@Methilde 9 ай бұрын
​Il ne s'agit pas de batterie mais de percussions, soyez plus precis avoir d'avoir un avis si tranchant.
@guidoheinke8144
@guidoheinke8144 4 жыл бұрын
What a spirit! Furtwängler and his musicians unified all these musical thoughts to a desperate prayer for love and fraternism among all human beings....but unfortunately god had no mercy...if the listeners would have known.....
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 SPEECHLESS!!! What a magnificently synchronized and disciplined yet powerful energetic zeitgeistly piece of drumming I've ever heard in all versions of the 9th!!!!
@metanoia322
@metanoia322 3 жыл бұрын
ESTA VERSION ME ARRANCA EL ALMA DEL CUERPO, NO HAY NINGUNA OTRA QUE PUEDA LLEGAR A ESTE CLIMAX DE PODER ESPIRITUAL.
@josearcos8589
@josearcos8589 8 ай бұрын
Arrancar o acariciar?
@Menurella
@Menurella 11 жыл бұрын
Very powerful. Same remark as on your other videos : it's the best interpretation I heard!
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
The drummer in the first movement stole the show, oh lord!!!
@Methilde
@Methilde 9 ай бұрын
​Not a drummer but a "percussionist" here.
@preetiatwal2167
@preetiatwal2167 4 жыл бұрын
"He certainly had an enormous influence on me. I remember that when I was Generalmusikdirektor in Aachen, a friend invited me to a concert that Furtwängler gave in Cologne. Furtwängler's performance of the Schumann's Fourth, which I didn't know at the time, opened up a new world for me. I was deeply impressed. I didn't want to forget this concert, so I immediately returned to Aachen." - Herbert Von Karajan
@jrh2u
@jrh2u 2 жыл бұрын
You should read what Furtwaengler had to say about the nazi Herr K
@marek_petrovsky
@marek_petrovsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrh2u Interesting! Could you, please, expand on that. Thank you in advance.
@jrh2u
@jrh2u 2 жыл бұрын
@@marek_petrovsky Apparently F, who was very anti-Nazi, disliked K because K was a member of the NSDAP. F's experiences during the Nazi era are quite interesting.
@marek_petrovsky
@marek_petrovsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrh2u Thanks, I'll try to find further info abour this.
@soutteruk1
@soutteruk1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrh2u Interesting. What did Furtwängler say about wee Herbie v K?
@boodejige2013
@boodejige2013 3 жыл бұрын
wow.... in the middle of world war 2 in Berlin playing this !!
@siegfriedrocholl4949
@siegfriedrocholl4949 4 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful version of this masterpiece
@MrGer2295
@MrGer2295 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Beautiful! Thanks for posting!
@weiterimtext8134
@weiterimtext8134 3 жыл бұрын
Maestro! Perfect! Present! Futur I! Futur II! Zeitlos!
@นพคุณต่อวงศ์-ค5ง
@นพคุณต่อวงศ์-ค5ง 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this ultimate masterpiece. Sublime.
@MilaGontcharova
@MilaGontcharova 3 жыл бұрын
Под руководством Фуртвенглера, вся музыка звучит божественно!!!
@robertarnold3394
@robertarnold3394 2 жыл бұрын
If people truly adhered to Beethoven’s spirit our future would be irretrievably altered for the better.
@timothytikker3834
@timothytikker3834 3 жыл бұрын
Elemental power, the very forces of Nature at work!
@jespersonne3084
@jespersonne3084 3 жыл бұрын
Overwhelming! Second to none.
@massimodefrancovich4795
@massimodefrancovich4795 3 жыл бұрын
L'adagio molto e cantabile di questa edizione è qualcosa di trascendentale. Il tempo lentissimo usato solo un genio come Furtwangler poteva sostenerlo e variarlo in modo così commovente.
@renato45222
@renato45222 3 жыл бұрын
@MassimoDeFrancovich: Questo concerto del 42, probabilmente complice anche la peculiare contingenza nella quale si produsse, con una "contrainte" storico-sociale così cogente sugli interpreti, in primis su Furtwangler, dovrebbe costituire materia di studio nei conservatori e non solo nei conservatori. Non è certo questa la sede, ma a parte la poetica sublime del III movimento, sulla quale concordo pienamente, tutta l'interpretazione di Furtwangler andrebbe analizzata battuta per battuta, comprese le pause non esistenti in partitura ma pregne di significato. Si è avvinti da un senso di cosmicità e di infallibilità tecnica ed estetica inarrivabili: la mente e il cuore di chiunque ami la musica, indipendentemente dalle competenze tecniche, ne escono sconvolti e rapiti.
@massimodefrancovich4795
@massimodefrancovich4795 3 жыл бұрын
renato45222 sono completamente d'accordo. Vorrei aver firmato io le sue parole.
@alessandrovittorini6706
@alessandrovittorini6706 3 жыл бұрын
If you confront this version with the one in 1951, you will realize how the war allowed Furtwangler to reach perfection.
@illegalewahrheiten2911
@illegalewahrheiten2911 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler in the audience might be key.
@aisddd1996
@aisddd1996 2 жыл бұрын
This is not that performance. This is the March 1942 performance. It is brilliant in all details. The April performance was for you-know-who's birthday and it is a mess. Some people say Furtwängler deliberately mangled the conducting.
@xtraa
@xtraa 5 жыл бұрын
"Of course, when Furtwängler conducted Beethoven between two bombing raids in 1942, that sounded different from a Beethoven, in which we are at most concerned with the EU rescue package." - Christian Thielemann
@MusikPiratCH
@MusikPiratCH 4 жыл бұрын
What does Christian Thielemann understand of Beethoven's 9th (although I know he is a conductor as well) and what does he understand of Wilhelm Furtwängler? In those dark days of WWII music was probably the only hope. And when you don't know if you will live the next day then you'll even play the same Symphony differently (as it would be the last thing you'll do)! Joachim Kaiser wrote: "Furtwängler was never better than during WWII!" How true! :D
@wlrlel
@wlrlel 4 жыл бұрын
@@MusikPiratCH that's pretty much what Thielemann said...
@MusikPiratCH
@MusikPiratCH 4 жыл бұрын
@@wlrlel Not in this mentioned sentences. Sorry but my point is that Furtwängler and Beethoven are by far more important than Thielemann! :P
@wlrlel
@wlrlel 4 жыл бұрын
@@MusikPiratCH Now that's true. Nonetheless Thielemann is one of the greatest conductors of the last (maybe 20) years, and surely the greatest Wagner conductor. And in addition a great person; I really really like him.
@MusikPiratCH
@MusikPiratCH 4 жыл бұрын
@@wlrlel That's entirely up to you. Even for Wagner I prefer Furtwängler. But this may be a time issue because I think at Furtwängler's time there were better Wagner singers. For my taste since the sad end of Peter Hofmann (Parkinson) and the end of the career of Siegfried Jerusalem there are no great Wagner tenors out there any more. :(
@javierelzo8989
@javierelzo8989 3 жыл бұрын
Es imposible no extasiarse ante una interpretación como la de esta Novena. La versión de Lucerna de 1953 puede ser, técnicamente mejor. Pero aquí, en 1942, estamos ante un interpretación única en la historia de la música. Cada vez que la escucho se me encoge el corazón y me quedo sin habla. Solamente el silencio es posible. Javier Elzo
@joseluisgimenezperez909
@joseluisgimenezperez909 3 жыл бұрын
JA!!!
@aliena2979
@aliena2979 2 жыл бұрын
@Baregil de Gomcesval Dudo que la dirección de Furtwängler se viera lastrada por la "desnazificación". Tienes razón en cuanto a la orquesta castrada. No sé por qué ninguno hacéis referencia a su versión de Bayreuth de agosto de 1954, ¡ahí sí contaba con una señora orquesta!
@MegaClassicguy
@MegaClassicguy 3 жыл бұрын
Furtwängler was the God of Maria Callas, Gleen Gould and Carlos Kleiber. There is nothing to add.
@fabriziogarzi9892
@fabriziogarzi9892 2 жыл бұрын
MegaClassicguy, non sapevo che la Callas amasse a tal punto Furtwaengler..lo sento per la prima volta. Mi faccia sapere da dove ha preso questa notizia. Grazie.
@mickideandalusia3676
@mickideandalusia3676 Жыл бұрын
Beethoven&Furtwängler auch und gerade in schweren Schicksalsjahren ein Ausdruck deutschen Genies. Das Anhören dieser Aufnahme der 9. Sinfonie aus dem Kriegsjahr 1942 ist für mich wie ein Gottesdienst.
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très beau texte, félicitations
@alextejada6454
@alextejada6454 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent! The fact that it was recorded at a time when a certain German chancellor wanted to promote "heroic" art gives this recording more value.
@johncitizen9540
@johncitizen9540 2 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to read further about Furtwangler VS Hitler. Its a great story. There was a 1990s film "Did Furtwangler conduct for the Nazis". I think he was a truly amazing musician and human
@illegalewahrheiten2911
@illegalewahrheiten2911 Жыл бұрын
This is heroic.
@petercook4070
@petercook4070 4 жыл бұрын
As good today.in 2020 as when it was recorded seventy eight years ago, Times change(thank God) but the masters greatest work will forever transcend the human condition for all time. If music be the food of love.international understanding.play on.WONDERFUL>
@drforensic272
@drforensic272 4 жыл бұрын
important point: Fürtwängler hated the music of Wagner in the beginning of his career. But in order to have any chans to make a career as a conductor in Germany, even before Hitler came along, he had to incoroorate Wagner into his repetoire. Which he did, much so by reinterpreting him in his own way. Some say that Fûrtwängler wagnerized Beethoven. This is wrong; however, perhaps it would be correct to say he beethovenized Wagner, in order to stand him.
@petercook4070
@petercook4070 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Forensic The old saying *You always hate the one you love* is surely relevent in this case. Wagner under the baton of Furtwangler is really masterfully interpreted,
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 3 жыл бұрын
He started to love Wagner later on. But it's true that he really disliked him early on, he wrote about it.
@illegalewahrheiten2911
@illegalewahrheiten2911 2 жыл бұрын
I think he definitely Wagnerized Beethoven.
@robertarnold3394
@robertarnold3394 2 жыл бұрын
What is the third movement but tender joyfulness tinged with a foreboding lurking sadness? After the strife of conflict of the successive previous two movements we almost get past the turmoil eyed to be cast back in, only to be resolved on a completely new plane of freedom
@emilianodominguez7096
@emilianodominguez7096 Жыл бұрын
El mejor director de orquesta de todos los tiempos, sería bueno que remasterizaran el sonido, yo creo que no lo han dejado por obvias razones para quien tocó. Saludos desde México 🇲🇽 Actung!
@rodrigo7046
@rodrigo7046 Жыл бұрын
Remasterizar, para que? Si de por si el sonido es lo suficientemente bueno, y la propia dirección de Furtwängler supera a interpretaciones realizadas en la actualidad.
@davidjaumot5332
@davidjaumot5332 4 жыл бұрын
Impresionante version,esta grabacion firma parte de las famosas grabacines de la guerra, con una tecnolohia muy avanzada para la epoca.PERO para apreciar esto se tiene q escuchar en cd no por el movil pero insisto es una tecnologia muy avanzada
@metanoia322
@metanoia322 3 жыл бұрын
UNA PRUEBA DE LO MAS CONTUNDENTE QUE NO SOLO SE INVOLUCIONO EN CIERTAS TECNOLOGIAS SINO EN ARTE. NADIE IGUALA A ESTE FORMIDABLE DIRECTOR.
@fernandodelacuadra9703
@fernandodelacuadra9703 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly recomend the movie Taking sides, by István Szábó in wich he shows the disgraceful way this venerable master director was mistreated by certain American officer in charge of "de-nazification", in 1947 after the war had ended. It is a very impresive movie!!!!
@MegaClassicguy
@MegaClassicguy 9 жыл бұрын
The best ever
@aisddd1996
@aisddd1996 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Brookes I am sure that the chinese, the russians, et al will treat you and your ungrateful kind much better than the US ever did.
@aisddd1996
@aisddd1996 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Brookes Neither china? 1 million Uyghurs in concentration camps in china might disagree. Millions all over the world come to the USA legally or illegally. How many millions all over the world are clamoring to get into china or russia? When will you be moving to china or russia? Look to see where people from all over the world wish to go so you will understand things better. You hate the US, I know this, it is plain for all the world to see. And if the US should fall no doubt you will have some new superpower to hate.
@aisddd1996
@aisddd1996 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Brookes I see today that a Texas firm is moving to phase two to test a Covid-19 vaccine and the initial testing looks good. And America will make this vaccine available to the World. But if you hate America so much feel free to not help yourself to it.
@aisddd1996
@aisddd1996 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Brookes Just remember no matter how much you want to be well and healthy refuse any American aid. Live your convictions. Be consistent.
@vdodenstein5754
@vdodenstein5754 4 жыл бұрын
@Mister Brookes "The day the United States of America collapses Freude Schöner Götterfunken Tochter Aus Elysium will be sung in every corner of the planet" MADE MY DAY.
@vlad3192
@vlad3192 Жыл бұрын
Nice rough sound in truly romantic days! Bravo.
@nellysotos5254
@nellysotos5254 2 жыл бұрын
Excepcional
@GaryLachman
@GaryLachman Жыл бұрын
Furtwangler, Beethoven. Enough said.
@francescaemc2
@francescaemc2 3 жыл бұрын
grazie di nuovo.
@enaralva
@enaralva 2 жыл бұрын
For a recording dated in 1942 during the Second World War, it is astonishingly the quality sound considering the early no hi fi equipment. About this version already without the great Jewish musicians Furtwängler makes a remarkable interpretation of the ninth symphony.
@kerrgal
@kerrgal Жыл бұрын
Reading this has made me profoundly sad; especially after Holocaust Remembrance Day, just passed.
@MATHERALUS1976
@MATHERALUS1976 2 жыл бұрын
Primeira música prensada num CD como conhecemos hoje.
@FrédéricMordin
@FrédéricMordin 5 ай бұрын
magnifique !
@焼き芋-w1g
@焼き芋-w1g 3 жыл бұрын
素晴らしいと言う言葉しか、見つからない。
@MusikPiratCH
@MusikPiratCH 4 жыл бұрын
seiji shino Couldn't you see it this way? Music was probably the only joy and hope during WWII. Furtwängler is giving this joy (and hope - despite the Nazis)! :D
@edwardweeden2834
@edwardweeden2834 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you have just made the most intelligent comment I have ever read about Furtwaengler, his career and his era. Bravo!
@carsonwall2400
@carsonwall2400 3 жыл бұрын
Except he was conducting *for* the nazis, who of course hijacked Beethoven as a fascist icon. And what group exactly would be given joy and hope by it?
@MusikPiratCH
@MusikPiratCH 3 жыл бұрын
@@carsonwall2400 Please don't come with this very stupid nazi comment. Even Yehudi Menuhin played with Furtwängler after the war. Most people could listen on the radio to those Furtwängler concerts! I think you only like to see "nazi" = evil (so you have a reason not to listen to Furtwängler)! Furtwängler even helped jewish musicians (in his two orchestras WPO and BPO)! If you like to ignore Furtwängler fine but don't write such stupid comments!
@gerhardtpolzenhagen9196
@gerhardtpolzenhagen9196 2 жыл бұрын
@@MusikPiratCH Eine sehr gute, intelligente Antwort auf diesen haarsträubenden Unsinn des dümmlichen Schwätzers Carson Wall..
@上田進-r2g
@上田進-r2g 4 жыл бұрын
「すべて偉大なものは単純である」 この箴言は、フルトヴェングラーの愛した言葉です。その言葉を眼光紙背に徹して読み、熟読玩味した結果、出現した言葉が、「如何なる大らかな事はすべて簡単である」で 更に至り着いた言葉は、「自問自答」であり、「ひとり言」です。この間費やした年月は約30年推敲に推敲を重ねて記した言葉です 。 進 (1950)
@user-ob6kk9bh1p
@user-ob6kk9bh1p Жыл бұрын
高校生の頃フルトヴェングラー協会(日本)に入りました。貴重な頒布レコード2枚と知らなかったDrの資料を頂きましたが今は存在しません、復活を!。
@constantinebuddberg8924
@constantinebuddberg8924 2 жыл бұрын
So.. when i was very .. very young..Herr Furtwangler..for me..as a God..Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Bruckner,..and now my Russia under suppression of the KGB again
@longiflora1170
@longiflora1170 2 жыл бұрын
Ага, и никто , совсем никто не слушает классику в РФ. Бедный ты.
@mcaaltdboris4544
@mcaaltdboris4544 3 жыл бұрын
I. Allegro ma non troppo un poco maestoso (Key: D minor) II. Molto vivace (Key: D minor and D major ) III. Adagio molto e cantabile​ (Main Key: B flat, / Other Key: D, E flat, and G Major) IV. Presto - Allegro assai (Main Key: D, / Other Key: D minor, B Flat Major, G Major)
@robinho6888
@robinho6888 4 жыл бұрын
48:45 ... 4th movement begins
@francescaemc2
@francescaemc2 4 жыл бұрын
grazie. ne plus ultra
@Луиза-з2я
@Луиза-з2я Жыл бұрын
The theme of the Ode to Joy is almost note for note quoted from the motet "Misericordias Domini" KV 222 W. Mozart!
@giuseppecardenas2400
@giuseppecardenas2400 Жыл бұрын
Can this version be remastered? Searched it through Spotify but haven't found it.
@krvr989
@krvr989 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you wrote the most badass piece of music in history... And you can't hear it :(
@ludwigvonzork7494
@ludwigvonzork7494 4 жыл бұрын
Sad, bro :,((
@everettworld1765
@everettworld1765 4 жыл бұрын
He heard it definitely! In his mind though, but I'm sure he heard all of it.
@brucknerian9664
@brucknerian9664 3 жыл бұрын
The mind is an incredible thing. When I first heard Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" conducted by Andre Previn, it played out entirely in my mind while I slept that night--and it was even more intense then the actual listening experience I had with the recording.
@alessandrovittorini6706
@alessandrovittorini6706 3 жыл бұрын
But he could feel it
@TorMax9
@TorMax9 2 жыл бұрын
I hear music in my head all the time. I wake up in the morning with a different song/ piece of music playing. I am not even the disc jockey, someone else/ something else is making the decision what is playing. Sometime I don't even like the song. Usually I do. And it is more intense than when I look up the song on KZbin and play the real version.
@ludwig4713
@ludwig4713 4 жыл бұрын
WHERE CAN I GET THE PIC IN THIS VIDEO OF FURTWANGLER. i WOULD LIKE TO DOWNLOAD IT, PLEASE.
@silverloto6773
@silverloto6773 3 жыл бұрын
Seid umschlungen, Millionen! Diesen Kuss der ganzen Welt! Brüder - überm Sternenzelt Muss ein lieber Vater wohnen
@sdeveau7970
@sdeveau7970 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness.
@denistremblay8029
@denistremblay8029 Жыл бұрын
The essence of Beethoven : Joy is summoned by the power of the will in spite of the horrors and amidst the turmoil of history... it is not a festival or a mere celebration as many tought... Here is expressed the origin of all celebration and then cannot be a celebration but a summoning ... it is an expression of the sacred which is terror and joy at the same time... Others Maestros cannot direct it as Beethoven thought of it; apocalypsos : revelation... If someone want mere beautiful music for a festive celebration Furtwangler is not the choice...And Beethoven never write a carnival music anyway ... Furtwanglwer is not Walt Disney...
@joseluisgimenezperez909
@joseluisgimenezperez909 2 жыл бұрын
El verdadero Ludwig!!!!!
@bluedrop85
@bluedrop85 Жыл бұрын
It's me or it seems that most comments are very recent for a 10 year old youtube video. Is there a pre-war Germanic spirit revival going on?
@classicore22
@classicore22 Жыл бұрын
No, we're just Furtwängler and Beethoven fans.
@ptolemaios5364
@ptolemaios5364 Жыл бұрын
this is literally one of the best versions of probably the best music piece there is
@sloubry
@sloubry Жыл бұрын
Ce n'est pas une 9e "de joie". C'est une 9e de révolte et de fureur, de passion aussi. C'est pourquoi cette version, bien qu'extraordinaire et totalement unique, ne peut pas être "la meilleure" (si tant est qu'il en existe une) car elle demeure très éloignée de son message originel.
@denistremblay8029
@denistremblay8029 Жыл бұрын
La joie pure plane au dessus du volcan et c'est un APPEL à la joie, une sommation héroique et une prophétie, en depit de tout pas une fête ou un carnaval ... Seul Furtwangler la dirige comme Bethoven pensait la joie pure: un irrepressible avenement au milieu de L'histoire elle même...
@lionelthiebaud7081
@lionelthiebaud7081 Жыл бұрын
Très juste, excellente réponse, et surtout merci Furtwangler et encore plus à Beethoven pour un tel chef d'œuvre
@jude999
@jude999 4 жыл бұрын
Unbeatable
@ptolemaios5364
@ptolemaios5364 Жыл бұрын
1:11:44 i just love how it skips a beat there
@sanhuan34
@sanhuan34 3 жыл бұрын
Ars artia gratis. Furtwängler is a heroic genius standing on a level where beethoven's 9th tranceded the banality of the führer's birthday april 20 1942 which ironically coincided with the turning of the tide of the war in spring/summer of 1942. Man plans and God laughs. Es leben Furtwängler, Beethoven und. Deutcheland. Alle menschen werden brüder.
@memesofproduction27
@memesofproduction27 6 жыл бұрын
Joy, beautiful spark of the gods, Daughter from Elysium, We enter, drunk with fire, Heavenly One, thy sanctuary! Your magic binds again What convention strictly divides;* All people become brothers,* Where your gentle wing abides. Who has succeeded in the great attempt, To be a friend's friend, Whoever has won a lovely woman, Add his to the jubilation! Indeed, who calls even one soul Theirs upon this world! And whoever never managed, shall steal himself Weeping away from this union! All creatures drink of joy At nature's breast. Just and unjust Alike taste of her gift; She gave us kisses and the fruit of the vine, A tried friend to the end. [Even] the worm has been granted sensuality, And the cherub stands before God! Gladly, as His heavenly bodies fly On their courses through the heavens, Thus, brothers, you should run your race, Joyful, like a hero going to conquest. You millions, be embraced. This kiss is for all the world! Brothers, above the starry canopy There must dwell a loving Father. Do you fall in worship, you millions? World, do you know your creator? Seek him in the heavens Above the stars must He dwell. LIVE, FLY.
@jamesnicol3831
@jamesnicol3831 4 жыл бұрын
LAMF
@petercook4070
@petercook4070 4 жыл бұрын
And to think the orchestra,chorus and Furtwangler were brave enough to perform this wonderful work in Berlin 1942.Against everything the despicable Nazi government represented
@ЛюдмилаБлишун-ц1ж
@ЛюдмилаБлишун-ц1ж Жыл бұрын
браво!
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 Жыл бұрын
Strange what oppression can bring to a musical Soul.
@thebigstink7472
@thebigstink7472 11 ай бұрын
59:00 the best alla Marcia I’ve ever heard
@constantinebuddberg8924
@constantinebuddberg8924 2 жыл бұрын
So what do you think about?
@ludwigvonzork7494
@ludwigvonzork7494 4 жыл бұрын
Best artist: Rock: Elvis Classic Music: Mozart Hip Hop: Tupac Metal: BEETHOVEN
@ludwigvonzork7494
@ludwigvonzork7494 4 жыл бұрын
pd: ME QUEDE SORDO al escuchart esta maravilla al maximo con auriculares... ¿VALIO LA PENA? Fue la mejor experiencia de mi vida.
@nataliamorbosopipparola6691
@nataliamorbosopipparola6691 4 жыл бұрын
jaja, que buen comentario brother
@erikgardetemps
@erikgardetemps 4 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigvonzork7494 ya estabas sordo...
@ludwigvonzork7494
@ludwigvonzork7494 4 жыл бұрын
@@erikgardetemps yi istibis sirdi dijo el mudo
@fabriziogarzi9892
@fabriziogarzi9892 2 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigvonzork7494, spero tanto che riuscirai per un qualunque miracolo ad udire un poco di piu'.
@masayukiohno8111
@masayukiohno8111 3 жыл бұрын
この演奏、トスカニーニの演奏と似てるな。凄みが半端なくある
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