Beforel Orel: Orel and his Grandpa

[@hildamistwater8206]

While Arthur was a bad dad I do love him as a character and the exploration of how, sometimes an abusive parent will still be good to their grandkids, and how that can be emotionally painful and confusing to the parent of the grandkid. One of my favorite episodes of the show, for sure

[@ericglenn9984]

I mean one could just look at real life to come to that conclusion.

[@Neo-Najarin]

Sure Arthur neglected Clay. But Clay never showed remorse and kept on antagonizing him. While Clay still believed he was blameless about what had happened.

[@Illier1]

Well Orel hadn't done anything to upset him while Clay actively ruined his life lol.

[@akiraeatsguitarpicks491]

He wasn’t a bad dad Clay deserved it

[@seantolson6223]

@@Neo-Najarin Clay was literally a child and Arthur was treating him like he wasn’t. He was 100% a bad father.

[@hlinguini1365]

Arthur is probably one of the best depictions I’ve ever seen of the “grandparent effect.” People may be horrible parents, but as they grow and mature into older age they settle down and realize their mistakes, leading to much better grandparents. We can see how Arthur, while still being a little bit shitty, is wiser and kinder to Orel.

[@nore5888]

Cotton and Bobby from King of The Hill

[@lightheart5]

Like Homer from The Simpsons

[@ardilladepresiva8911]

No realmente, su hijo era un niño con rasgos sociopatas y egoístas, incluso consentido a más no poder por su nerviosa madre a la cual mató sin querer porque se quería vengar de que el no fuera su único hijo. Castigo a su hijo para llamar le la atención porque realmente ya no lo quería con justa razón, hasta que se canso y solo lo abandonó emocional mente. Si fue un mal padre, aunque no pudo corregir a su hijo por su inestable esposa, pero si es un gran abuelo y él merecía a Orel.

[@bethanyoneal5789]

Reminds me of my grandma. She was an awful mother, but a wonderful grandmother

[@lydiajulianprower8356]

The Cotton Hil effect.

[@jordanpeterson5038]

This episode said a lot about clays father. He knew how bad moralton was and how easy to lead orel to believe things.

[@geministrial950]

Little Orel's laugh is just the most adorable thing ever

[@thecanadiandane7262]

The only good part of the episode “Nature” was Orel’s laugh, what a ray of sunshine

[@wew3294]

@@thecanadiandane7262 RIGHT. Morslton doesn't deserve him ☹

[@onemanarmysswampparty]

I hear sandy cheeks in his laugh

[@jononpaper]

​@@onemanarmysswamppartythey have the same voice actor

[@WizelBalan]

The good thing about Orel is that while his parents were horrible people, he still became a loving father with 2-3 kids, married his childhood sweetheart, and had a puppy. you go Orel.

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

And Shapey and Block became first responders!

[@ElStink4K]

And retained his faith without using it for toxic means unlike the other adults

[@yellow538]

My boy had no chance of a happy life and still made it out by being a good person :)

[@Gooberwares]

I’m hoping he’s seeing a there’s thou

[@kikook222]

The thing I like about the prequel is the end where his grandfather says that Orel might be easy to manipulate but they can never corrupt how pure he is.

[@Veteransmoker]

Clay flipped him off while driving away

[@alyssabullock6421]

Oh my gosh I didn't notice that before 💀

[@cgecko3]

Clay hates him ALOT it was foreshadowed before this episode and before we got his backstory too in subtle moments. Orel: "Dad, dad!" Clay in a resentful voice: "Where" (this was when he didn't know who Shapey's father was but it could also be in reference to his own hatred of his father). Clay: "Orel! A father never gives up then he would just be a husband and that's practically worthless" he's subtly calling his own dad worthless because he gave up being his father. Clay: " We have a finite amount of love in us..." This also applies to his father. I also think there was a throwaway line where Bloberta mentions the word "Grandfather" and it upsets Clay making him roll his eyes .

[@marceldawn0_o]

real tbh

[@MisterJohnDoe]

And then at the end of the special...

[@jak4470]

If only Arthur stayed around longer. He'd be a better paternal figure than Clay.

[@Skoringo]

Shame too because originally he was supposed to be a major player in season 3 before it was cut down

[@sentry3019]

@@Skoringo sad asf man this show could’ve gone farther but no Adult Swim just cut it

[@nexus5253]

It’s especially ironic considering adult swim is usually the one that keeps or revives bold cartoons willing to push the envelope for what can be shown on tv.

[@Sukuna214]

He’s the one responsible for creating Clay. He needs to die that’s it.

[@env0x]

@@nexus5253 not really. "edgy" isn't really [as]'s priority. they like random humor and social commentary, but if something is too edgy or the wrong kind of social commentary they always pull the plug. it's happened with so many shows on adult swim.

[@SrMadru]

Imagine youre arthur, you havent talked to your son who you hate for possibly decades, then all of a sudden a kid appears and apparently he is your grandkid who you didnt even know existed and your son just goes away to pick him up god knows when, thats kinda wild lmao

[@WhyTho525]

Not to mention, Clay gives the middle finger to Arthur at 0:12

[@kraevorn7483]

@@WhyTho525 honestly I blame everything on Clay’s mother

[@joechill6327]

I love that, "Moralton" it's reputation is known far and wide.

[@danielnidhiry5796]

nah he used to live in it

[@reddawn1873]

Arthor was a bad father And to be fair clay's mom was arguably bad too But at least Oral And Arthur had a decent relationship And it really says something that He knew Moralton wasn't good

[@randomcenturion7264]

Nah, not even arguably. Clay's mom warped Clay into a narcissist that to this day can't accept his own faults.

[@Abandonsoyciety]

He knew moralton wasn't good because he probably knows his son's the mayor.

[@lightingdragon4143]

@@Abandonsoyciety 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tairabanzu]

So called Christian cult like town... and this comment actually from a Christian... nothing good comes from it...

[@frogmouth2]

It was probably regret for how he raised clay.

[@iamstartinganewchannel.9902]

Lil Orel is too pure for this world.

[@isaiahwalking]

Just realized clay was flipping off his dad through the scope of that sniper lol.

[@idunno7166]

1:18 Who knew that this question would be answered to Orel but not in the way he expected?

[@Tiny_T0mb0y]

Orel's lil run to his grandpa's house is adorable

[@sonicinajarvauntedspeciali7245]

I love how Orel is just constantly "😃 FRIEND?"

[@Buttonnnnnn]

"Wow! What's nature?" You will find out sooner or later

[@nexus5253]

The biggest shame here(for us) was that he was gonna be a more prominent character if the show wasn’t cancelled(though you can sleep a bit better knowing he made sure everything he had was given to Orel after his passing)

[@apetheory7152]

While Arthur may have been a shitty dad to Clay during in his childhood, it looks like he changed quite a bit at this point.

[@jnlaw2644]

Theres a sweet irony in their relationship, kinda like Bart with Homers father. Him and Clays dad seem to get along. If Orel was there instead of clay imagine the life he could have had. He loves that kid, because he knew from the start he was nothing like his father.

[@Sphere-Friend]

He had time to reflect and regret his actions towards Clay. One could even see his chosen isolation as a form of penance. He never reached out to Clay to say he was sorry, because he wasn't. The man that Clay became deserves no closure. Arthur saw him as broken, and nothing Arthur could say would ever fix that.

[@Riskijay55]

@@Sphere-Friend tbf clay was a beyond fucked up kid, who manipulated his father to hitting him, and didn't really care when he got his own mom killed, if your take away arthur was abusive dad then yeah idk.

[@joshuagraham2843]

He hates his son but he loves his grandson

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

I like how clay flipped his dad off while driving away

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

If you don't raise your kids, you'll be raising your grandkids. Dude took a hell of a lot of time to finally get to be a decent parent. Shame it meant he was such a shitty dad to Clay.

[@A-TALKING-TOASTER]

You also have to remember that he was also being raised by a mother that didn’t have the common sense to not smoke ride roller coasters and jumping trampolines while heavily pregnant

[@Fruitjuiceandbananas]

Yea

[@nexus5253]

He was slightly annoyed by him but he recognized Orel was a better kid than clay ever was and clearly only wanted the best for him. He may not have gotten to see it but thankfully things did work out for Orel so he got his wish.

[@esparzacartoons2050]

Makes perfect sense that clay never told his own father he had a kid.

[@afrikasmith1049]

Arthur wasn't a good father to Clay, but it wasn't completely his fault. Clay's mother had a very negative influence on him. Arthur could have tried to set him straight, but there was too much anger and grief and the fact that Clay takes more after his mother even though he's actually quite intelligent enough to become mayor at such a young age speaks volumes of how it was most likely going to play out. You don't see writing like this in most adult cartoons.

[@A-TALKING-TOASTER]

The sad thing is Clay could’ve actually became a better person if that woman of his didn’t get him into drinking

[@WhyTho525]

​@@A-TALKING-TOASTER It was both Clay's and Bloberta's fault.

[@adamgonzalez9650]

Dang, didnt realise how much I miss old shows like moral orel, where the writing is superb and visuals are amazing

[@N1gHtStAlKeR726]

Moralton is more a hellscape than SinVille. Poor Orel never stood a chance, and still came out as a better individual than everyone else.

[@prestonlouppe]

"Other people are not like moms or dads. They tell me things." 💀

[@feralmantis]

0: 05 Arthur : GET OFF MA PROPERTY 👺👹🤬 Orel :oh hey grandpa ! 😊😇😄 Clay : 🖕🏻 I donno why but this made me crack up-

[@vincentberkan605]

His rifle resembles a Spencer 1860 repeater.

[@Abandonsoyciety]

Damnit if only these old guys weren't so stingy I'd love to restore and collect old guns and trucks. That way when I'm old I can find someone younger to pass the torch too. Can't let the good ole fashioned ways die. I've had enough liberal crap and transvestites for a century.

[@枒]

@@Abandonsoyciety *what*

[@eternal60214]

It's actually a Pettywinder 2560 continuer

[@astarteswillum5259]

He's old school.

[@alllittlethingzz]

I wish Arthur stayed in the show longer and I like how he had a good relationship with Orel even though he had to warm up to him.

[@toonzach2870]

HA I just noticed Clay flipping Arthur the bird on his way out. Brilliant.

[@Rev3ry]

Orel's laugh 🥺💘

[@frogglen6350]

i love how he uses the scope on his rifle to get a better look at clay while clay flips himself. I bet he knew his dad was pointing a weapon at him 😅

[@Ax3L8008]

Bro I has to watch Beforel Orel three times to finally realize Clay flipped off Arthur while he was driving away 😭

[@yuarentlucky]

The sad thing is, had the show run longer, Arthur would have been sick and dying in Orel's bed, and eventually die at the end of season 4.

[@123darkelf]

Honestly this is endearing as fuck.

[@andrewdunn5568]

1:18 only a really depressing time

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

Anybody spotted Clay flipping Arthur the bird at 0:14?

[@LCTesla]

"Wow, whats nature" Orel sounds like a Gen-Z

[@kenny_fennecfox]

0:43 istg dino made his personality and character so adorable ‼️‼️🗣️

[@evilshet2873]

The cotton hill effect

[@houseofskydartvanvixen4490]

0:23 That was adorable

[@diegobareno5820]

Arthur Puppington and Grandpa Phil, two of the best animated grandpa’s ever.

[@EllislovesCrossovers]

Orel looks So Cute UwU

[@theorichalcumspider7755]

That boy ain't right.

[@wilhelmhinrik7815]

I own grandpa's gun.

[@wilhelmhinrik7815]

YEE HAW

[@HIDHIFDB]

@IntergalacticNobody im not North american and i own grandpa shotgun, revolver and pick up truck

[@akneegrow6152]

@IntergalacticNobody You say that like it's a bad thing lol.

[@akneegrow6152]

@IntergalacticNobody Then don't make statements that can easily come off as snark or passive aggressive, sped.

[@akneegrow6152]

@IntergalacticNobody All of that coming from the guy who said something that is universally recognized as a negative jab towards Americans or American culture then panics and tries to accuse his opponent of ''kicking up chit for attention'' when they simply stated ''you say that as a bad thing.'' Good lord, you are achieving levels of projection never thought possible. Your existence is why we need to bring back eugenicist laws.

[@matthewfontanez8646]

Isn’t Arthur the reason why Clay is a jerk to his son All because Clay accidentally killed his mother?

[@sentry3019]

More than that, he’s got way more issues than his dad being abusive. Tbf he pretty much got his mom killed and due to her having so many miscarriages she gave Clay all of the attention on top of being super religious making Clay pretty spoiled and messed up so Arthur blamed Clay for his mom’s death and hit him making Clay think that’s how he shows affection when in reality he was just mad at Clay. All of what happened is never an excuse to hit your kid but you can see where both are coming from at least in a way even if you don’t agree with their decisions

[@SkeletonFigure]

That laugh was scary 💀

[@kraevorn7483]

People saying, Arthur was a bad father to Clay, but really if you look at Clay‘s childhood on how he was influenced by his mother, you begin to understand why

[@dgameryoutube5045]

The best person in orels life is his grandpa (idc that he isnt religious because his so called religious people arnt good people at all)

[@VictorMoreno-fh8bl]

Me personally I don’t think Arthur was a bad dad. Clay was just babied by his mom to the point we’re he felt like nothing was his fault then after she died, he had no direction to go which left him in the same mindset of nothing is his fault in life

[@doctorwhofan6340]

I like the song in this but can't find it and yes youny oral is so cute!

[@GollyOrel2005]

My grandpa died so I am goth now. 🖤

[@naan000]

0:30 "mostly Orel"? what do they call him sometimes then

[@xavierortiz6713]

I though orals grandparents where dead

[@definitelynotsiri4058]

fun fact: clay is not exactly the most honest person ever

[@kills26]

Which episode is this? I thought I had seen them all, but don't remember any of this.

[@fangirl3086]

This was a special they aired a few years back called Before Orel, it was an introduction to a spin-off series that sadly never took off.

[@kills26]

@@fangirl3086 Ah, sadness I thought there was some episode I could have watched.

[@fangirl3086]

@@kills26 it is a full episode, but it was the only one made.

[@rachelthompson7487]

I didn’t see this one. What episode is this?

[@naan000]

It's a special episodd I think

[@zanderkendall2202]

@blockposabule upload Every Bloberta Puppington (Moral Orel)

[@Mihaly_]

Wow! What’s nature??? :D

[@gatobosshunter382]

what season and episode is this????

[@gold8857]

Before Orel, It's the first episode or something like that

[@RicklessSanchez]

I wish I wanna be Grandfather like Grandpa Rick Sanchez \m/.

[@matthewramoscat1628]

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