Beginner Vs Expert Audio Engineer: Can You Hear The Difference?

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[@LeChapeauMusic]

Engineer here. Third mix is insanely close to how I would do it. That being said, Simon's mix to me sounded much much better for that specific song!

[@prodbymalek]

I agree! Felt a lot more crisp which contrasted nicely with the song

[@LuvAndreas]

ayyy this video came out sick! Thank you for using my song for the challenge, it was dope hearing the different mix decisions you guys made😄

[@INGALIL]

Are you swedish dude? 🙌🏻

[@thapelosibanyoni2205]

which one do you prefer?

[@LuvAndreas]

They were all super different with aspects I appreciated. The WAVs sounded way different than the compressed KZbin versions. Simon's mix had fire width, and I liked the bassline in section 2, but the kick was clipping too hard and felt over-limited. Dawson had a clean vocal approach; the dubs were too loud, but the lead was fire, with a pro-level crispness on the top end. We dropped 'Time's Gone' with a different mix we worked hard on, but now a Grammy-winning mixer wants to redo it for us. Hopefully, his mix will be the one, and we'll redrop it soon

[@LuvAndreas]

@@INGALIL I'm not swedish, but most of my family grew up/live out there

[@INGALIL]

@@LuvAndreas I see, but nice to see you rep Sweden anyway. Kinda figured you were british as soon as I heard the accent 😁👌🏻

[@janardang8105]

Mix 3 Low end controlled really well. Mix 2 is creative. Combination of both would have been sick.

[@yoeldavidjr]

Totally agree

[@alijahpelletier]

I honestly preferred Simons mix to the expert, but I do recognize that it was the most clean sounding. I think I would've mixed the song very similar to how Simon did.

[@Dkejejej-h5d]

Agree! I found his mix better. But I still think #3 won this one because his style seems to be much more well suited for this genre (much more high ends). I think Simon would have a better shot if the track was Hip-Hop & Rnb (Since, his mixing are bass heavy). Otherwise, both were good.

[@MinusMedley]

Depends on what you're using to listen, but I recently discovered that boosting the subs like that tends to kills the groove and dynamics. If you really want to feel the subs then play it on a system designed to boost it, that would be most non-studio monitors anyway.

[@whoischenen]

He used to read the comments!

[@hulseestreaming]

Bro is too big now 😢

[@Ziro_kun]

Bro fell off

[@aspiringjoker2883]

Who says he doesn't?

[@malikevans2615]

​@Ziro_kun probably doing shit bts but he fell off lowkey on yt

[@aspiringjoker2883]

@malikevans2615 yeah, his upload schedule has always been an issue :(

[@gabrielpeters929]

I think a mix of Simon’s and the expert would be perfect in my opinion (Simon’s being too aggressive and the expert’s being too clean) other than the kicks I liked Simon’s mixing more overall

[@dbest7]

My thoughts exactly

[@RoyalCoder51651]

tbh i sorta liked simons the best. Maybe im just a slut for bass but I think it sounded the hardest. Especially on that ending part with the distorted lead

[@Mistle-uz8rc]

Same, the distorted lead is just perfect

[@antoinelegall6402]

I think he does make the instrumental the most important because he has the habit of doing it like this.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

I think he had the best bass, but the last one had better everything else. I didn't mind Simon's kick, but I like oversaturated kicks a lot with things like hyperpop and my own music.

[@antoinelegall6402]

@@youcantbeatk7006 I see, I like your music.

[@fet0logy]

Pro-engineer did a good job, but it definetely lacked some of the low-end after Simon's mix lol

[@BlueberryWolf]

Simon's mix was the best because he controlled dynamics a lot better. the 3rd engineer spent the most time on levelling and mixing but it ended up sounding a little more dull and soft, meanwhile simon's mix sounded wide and full and the drums hit (because of the clipping, which I actually quite liked.)

[@XXXPUBLICENEMY]

How to clip without clipping

[@vaskin717]

Haven’t watched it yet but I’m callin it’s gonna be a banger

[@TheRealRoni16]

Defo a banger cos I'm in it 🔥😎

[@hobbyloseryter0192]

The beginner used Soundgoodizer 🙈💀💀🙈😭

[@Ziro_kun]

He ain't a beginner

[@TheRealRoni16]

Allow me man 😂

[@TheRealRoni16]

​@Ziro_kun If i don't seem like a beginner than I'm doing a good job i guess 😅

[@Hovss]

@@TheRealRoni16 use a saturator

[@TheRealRoni16]

@@Hovss Appreciate you for helping me, thank you! I'll defo start using that instead

[@lilwombat]

Simon had the best one just ease up on the clipping. I used to blow out kicks too i like it but after watching people listen to stuff i made it's overwhelming and can translate really poorly to some speakers. Overall it was way more engaging although not as clean but that matters far less.

[@sicfxmusic]

Expert and "mid" obviously brought their experience to the table but rookie did a great job. 👏👏

[@TheRealRoni16]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@SheikRonMC]

Can you make a video on how to mix and master beats? I'm so confused because everyone has their own way, but I trust your methods.

[@shadowemblem.]

Awesome video. Definitely need to get better at mixing myself. Excellent work everyone.

[@Forest9770]

Dude that was fun! ❤️

[@IAmDek]

i like how Simon mix sounds, but maybe clipping should be more deeper on my opinion

[@prod.frizbie]

Wake up Simon Servida POSTED! ❤‍🔥

[@sicfxmusic]

You wake yourself up? No babe? 😁

[@sajagsingh8400]

The beginner was just happy to be there 😂

[@TheRealRoni16]

Yep 😂

[@averageenjoyer3934]

Very interesting that you can actually tell each level is what it is. I have no like 0 ear training or even context about judging music and it was cool to see the differences. The reactions to the kick/bass(?) was jokes

[@Akash_N_Suresh]

4:00 bro is really an expert

[@junglemankey]

Mixing is also an art form on its own

[@glennfordsolinap8606]

third mix is like music from the 2000-2010's....really clean!

[@luckygentyt]

You release this at the perfect time! I'm going to be releasing one of my best songs to date and with the tips you provided It's going to make my master much better.

[@tzxm16351]

Banger video

[@TheRealRoni16]

@tzxm16351 Any video that has me is a banger video 😏

[@D-One]

30min is crazy, id waste a third just listening to the song 3 times or so to get the vibe, do it again with more time and a sloppy fully unmixed song, maybe add some traps like EQing some tracks to have really resonant freqs and such... that would be fun af to watch.

[@BelieverStarcraft]

Mix 3 was sooo clean but i loved the creativity of mix 2. You add some of the parts/creativity to mix 3 it will be fire

[@AjayVerma-og6ip]

Please make beats session with mix and master like old days .

[@NovaMuller]

Simon got the best version for me coz it just hits more

[@gilangsuryawav]

youve come at the right time bro

[@Nightmare-yx5dp]

the pro is what i strive to become in mixing especially that low end cus man id be like simon most of the time making that low end knock

[@zxncofficial]

ngl i liked simon's the best

[@dmmakes-beats]

more video like this please i love it

[@AUGVST-m8w]

mixing on monitors is devious

[@justagge2272]

3rd mix was def the cleanest nd most professional, but simons was more unique and interesting

[@noogiebeats]

I would like to try my hands on this too

[@_kfolks_]

I wish he would've given the engineers an hour to mix as opposed to 30 minutes. There was still a massive difference between the 3, but if they would've had an hour then it would've shown the difference in skill between the 3 even more immensely.

[@coastie2025]

The perfect video to eat during dinner

[@digdigdigdigdig1749]

if you do this again, you should allow a bit more time. In my opinion, the difference between the 3 tiers would be a lot more noticeable. A seasoned engineer can get a 70% the way there very quickly, but its that last 30% that really shows the value of running a mix through someone with experience. That 30% just comes with time.

[@MarkVank]

30 minutes is insaaaaane for a mix tho

[@Dkejejej-h5d]

Both of them were really good! I think Simon would have been better if the track was Hip-Hop or Rnb. But for the sample track given, #3 had won this.

[@silver_prod]

i can definitely hear the difference (I’m on my phone)

[@RiccoSpxc3]

W video learned alot

[@uhctyannick]

fiiire! luvandreas underrated af

[@Kxngfroz_e]

I like yours the best.. the only problem I had with the beginner is that is 🎚️ level is too low.. but it's all good mixes

[@TheRealRoni16]

Yoo I'm the beginner, but i don't understand, what is low? I'd love to get some advice!

[@Kxngfroz_e]

@@TheRealRoni16 I didn't say your mix is not good. It's just not as loud as the other and it's nothing to be shamed about because Simon at times say that being louder doesn't always means better..

[@TheRealRoni16]

@Kxngfroz_e nah don't worry i didnt think u said i was bad, i just wanted to understand ur advice so i can learn. Thank u for telling me i appreciate it, will bear the volume in mind!

[@Cxcooooo]

​@@TheRealRoni16I'm making music on my phone for 3-4 years now My advice is Make the song louder and make every sound u made is hearable Like panning or wide , and make it crisp . So u can get the listeners attention to every single part

[@TheRealRoni16]

@Cxcooooo Ok I'll defo do that, I've got youlean loudness meter recently, so I'm sure that will help

[@icdeceivingdeception600]

If you could make a video more on how to mix and master that would be awesome

[@katisantegeia3697]

fire

[@MrJayBeatstv]

Dang I shoulda been on this one

[@0reason]

Cool vid

[@itstaylermusic]

it would have been cool to se the artist blindly rank them form noob to expert cause it seems like he is just agreeing with their credibility

[@missbob12345]

Simon was more creative but that is not what qualifies a mastering engineer. I have to agree with the expert, the kick and low end were overwhelming the vocals and melodic elements. Mixing wise Simons creativity was best and the experts knowledge of the mastering and leveling would likely make for the cleanest and most interesting finished product.

[@jarautajay]

Akin to what the expert mixing engineer said, I add to that "A good master can't fix a bad mix, A good mix can't fix a bad production." So if the producer/singer-songwriter gives you crap, you as a mixing engineer can only do your best to sound it your way, but that doesn't change the fact that the track is still crap. Bottom line: Production is your base, your foundation in making good music. So, sing the best verse, play your best lick, try to be on time, retake a thousand times, hit the drums with groove and feel, derail and don't limit yourself with what's with the norm. Great music is often made by breaking the rules. FLOW, DON'T FORCE.

[@dxzzydxm5518]

i’m a simple man. i see a simon video, i click

[@jvlrybeats]

🔥

[@SvgeRose]

I see you got a new camera 👀

[@its_henlxy333]

I wish you showed us how they mixed it so we could reciprocate it and learn

[@blueberry_5240]

Hi Simon, would you be able to make some cookup- style videos again? (similar to the style of the RTP series of yours) I’d much rather enjoy seeing your beatmaking process rather than these challange-videos or vs.-videos. Greetings.

[@GodSpeed1105]

No sauce on Dawsons mix 😂 Spillin no Beans.

[@Nayah9]

Please save the subtitles for KZbin shorts and Instagram. It's distracting. Love your content though! 🙂

[@brapywpopo3002]

can u make a tutorial on basic leveling on mixing?

[@Macskhananda]

my song the last one i mixwd sound like the last and third

[@khrisher]

Creatively Simons was good. But Dawson def mixed it much better to fit its song genre. Vocals were inside the pocket and every word was clearly understood. Maybe if Simons instrumental mix coincided with Dawsons Vocal mix, it would be a good song to blast in your car while cruising with the windows down.

[@roulam3001]

Simon is mogging us in the thumbnail

[@Kazeno]

the beginner guy is very cutie patootie😩😩😩😩😩😩

[@TheRealRoni16]

I agree 😏

[@creative._culture_]

Like if u think Simon ain't posting enough

[@DeficioOfficial]

Would be far more interesting if you all got 2-3 hours to mix, this was more of a speed-mixing challenge

[@DumpsterFireMusicOclock]

what… i use the pink and white theme 😢

[@tasenova2717]

one of the things that bugs me is, the pro is using pro tools, and that would be fine, if more people were aware of Fls quantization in fl faders

[@KarongoEverton]

hey simon love the content Could i ask you which is the most best program to use for stem separation ... be it paid or free

[@ozyardiary]

Curious, should the snare really be slightly louder than the Kick?

[@johnsonj1248]

it would be very generous give to us the stems of this song😄😍

[@RobinsStudy]

Hopefully we can get a tutorial for sound selection because no matter wat sound i choose it still doesn't sound right or am i the only one facing that problem? before mixing

[@newmanh]

Simon went too hard to this...the mix was such good but I really don't prefer clipping kicks...i therefore think the Professional really did a great job in making this mix super clean and ready to listen. i think with some little more time, his mix would be ready for spotify

[@melonenthusiast101]

A super clean mix isn't always the most interesting to listen to imo simons was better

[@johnsharp3459]

ok, is in between.

[@luaybeats]

Simon. Please. I try and try and try but i can never make samples. Any ideas on good practice techniques. I end up fetting up set and never save it

[@story_teller_beats]

The amount of tracks already gave me a headache lol

[@alexscales6760]

Do it again but this time don't tell the original artist who's mix is who's and make them guess

[@xtianrogelio20]

can you even work with pop punk or metal genres to say that you are an expert?

[@Narumasano]

Talking about audio engineering and mixing, does anybody agree with me that the masterisation tool in Logic Pro X is crap??

[@teshxnofficial907]

For me Simon’s mix fits the song even though the 3 mix is better. Just the kick a bit to hard😭

[@Tallsayd003]

can anyonr tell me

[@MetroKidd]

what i'm I doing here??💀💀 I've exams tomorrow

[@kayukthebruh5601]

can they stop talking while the music is playing

[@npcdisease]

Uhh yes, beginner move Mixing vocals before the instrumental 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Got damn it

[@TheRealRoni16]

Should i not do that? 😅

[@twitchbook-1]

thats sad!

[@al_Jae_music]

Hi Sir, I am from Philippines, asking if i can clean a Song generated by AI? Hope you can help me, thank you and more views and subscription on you channel ❤️🙏

[@brytonbeats5077]

Nooo you are not an intermideate🤧,you are way too faaar

[@bbs-vj7rp]

How act like a real Man ahh thumbnail

[@StalinkTz]

simon's sounded the best to me honestly, expert's one sounds kinda boring not gonna lie

[@junkyza]

this man really cheated in front of us? crazy

[@multimusicsam]

first

[@kronazmusic5497]

no

[@Migolivares]

Just me or does it seems like Simon is losing / has lost passion for making videos? They've began feeling rushed with a lot of cookie cutter'esque vibe.. A lot of the editing both visually and sound wise feel rushed and there's sort of this "Let's get this video idea over with" feeling

[@sonwabilesiheya6154]

I can do better