Beginners in MMA Should Not Use These Techniques

[@hard2hurt]

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[@kension333]

I'm so happy you said that about the superman punch. I've laid so many younger fighters on their butts throwing that after a couple solid leg kicks. Once they start looking down at your legs to anticipate more kicks, that's when you throw that sucker!

[@mickwise1]

Look at the way usman used it against Colby, that was some effective front kicking

[@johnstern626]

This is looking great! When is HammerTime coming out? Have you seen and can you review The Hammer Defense System by Guro Marc Halleck?

[@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667]

I just started tomorrow and if the move doesn't start with "spinning" or "flying" im not doing it!

[@ant7699]

You should do a spinning kick.

[@billyg.personaltraining]

All I heard was “do these five moves more often. “LOL

[@hard2hurt]

That works too

[@tjl4688]

Same. They're basic because they work.

[@kuuryotwo5153]

Well, more like: "Do these five moves *correctly* more often."

[@youngmf6052]

Ya. I was just thinking that, these are five great weapons that seem to work more often than “honest” techniques, shiiiiiit man, if it works and I “honestly” beat you, I still win.

[@joshuahitchins1897]

​@@youngmf6052 His point is that if you overly rely on these as a newbie, you won't get better. If you're in a competitive environment, by all means, throw whatever you got. As a beginner, relying on these moves avoids learning basic things like footwork and head movement to get in, balance, taking punches, and solid 1-2s. If you're a beginner and you're looking to beat someone instead of learn, you're going to get somebody hurt.

[@heresjonny666]

Tl;dr: Training is for improving your skills, not using things that stroke your ego.

[@hard2hurt]

That's a good chunk of it. Add in "make sure you know why you're doing things"

[@futureshit-glungis7202]

Wouldnt this be a Tl;dw?

[@ashes4821]

Whats the meaning of that? "Tl:dr"

[@rodolfotercero8917]

@@ashes4821 Too Long; Didn't Read. It's basically used to summarize something that's long. It's like saying "in summary" or "basically"

[@futureshit-glungis7202]

@@ashes4821 yeah usually you see it ok reddit when theres a post with a really long text they usually have a tl;dr at the bottom so that you can scroll down, still know what it said in summary but dont have to read the whole thing

[@davybigfly]

What I learned from this video: Don't take shortcuts in life. You should spend your time improving fundamentals like footwork and punch mechanics, and not go spam some cool move that kinda works better now. Someone who truly built up his fundamentals would counter you effectively. *OR* just shoot for a double and hope he doesn't sprawl

[@ahmaddeham_]

1:02 right hook 2:32 pull 4:00 lead front kick 6:16 spinning back fist 8:22 Superman punch

[@someguy5025]

When you said he might even win a world championship with that winging right hand all I could picture was Deontay Wilder.

[@TheLyingFigure]

I forgot about him and was sitting here thinking Francis nganou became champ without me hearing about it lol

[@Frosty1026]

All I thought about was the H bomb even tho that thing Dan threw was just vicious

[@firefiret8]

That's who I thought of too

[@firefiret8]

@@TheLyingFigure nah ngannou could breathe in your direction and your going to sleep meaning he has more tools in his tool bag

[@danedavidson]

I was guilty of this for a long time with the "lockdown" from half guard. Really easy to prevent people passing my half guard but I wasn't learning any good offense from there because I was too busy "succeeding" at preventing the pass.

[@hard2hurt]

Good example!

[@ashes4821]

This translates to that one friend that always press the same button and wins in Mortal Kombat

[@alimoorad5998]

LMAO! Great example! Hes not getting good at the game! Just getting lucky!

[@Mukawakadoodoo]

I’m trying man, it’s just frustrating and it feels like you have to be precise and fast to pull off those special fancy moves , lol

[@MaxLohMusic]

I beat all my friends literally button mashing random buttons for Soul Caliber and Marvel v Capcom. I always used this to prove my point that SSBM was a better fighting game because that would never fly in SSBM.

[@user-ns4zm8qe9p]

@@MaxLohMusic yeah with the games it kinda speaks on the balancing more than anything

[@jc8153]

1:40 - 2:03 I’m guessing thats a Jab at Deontay Wilder, eh?

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

More like an overhand at him lol

[@lolconbio2242]

@@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 nah a hook

[@duffpaddy3996]

Spinning backfist .

[@glenndiddy]

Yeah instantly thought of that clumsy oaf of a champion

[@TWaldon]

Same thing I thought.

[@VolatilisAzure]

"If you're a filthy dirty south paw" I feel personally attacked LoL

[@sephy980]

You should! you filthy devil hand you!

[@snazdogdbfan251]

@@sephy980 southpaws are like vampires and our greatest weakness is other southpaws or people who can work in both stances. We shrivel up and recoil when we see them sort of like when a vampire sees a cross

[@Sqauredcircleboxing]

southpaths are the worst and more worst are those guys who switch between southpaw and orthodox, just like me

[@jimmyriley2709]

@@snazdogdbfan251 Lol, yep I am a southpaw and I can relate

[@youssafsu2307]

I feel kinda proud

[@christopher9000p]

I hear you. My old Taekwondo instructor used to tell us to avoid using stepping side kicks in sparring as he said it was a "crutch for someone who doesn't want to work". I get where you're coming from.

[@Histgyph]

It’s more of a good range management tool and a counter for approaches, and an approach itself, seems like your instructor was full of shit

[@christopher9000p]

@@Histgyph He never said anything about not using front leg sidekicks as counters, and as a TKD black-belt, I can tell you that the vast majority of stepping sidekicks that do land usually only hit the person's arm anyway, which doesn't score any points. I probably should have clarified that he didn't flat-out prohibit their use in sparring, he only discouraged them and other "short-cut" techniques as they can ultimately be detrimental to the development of one's style, which is essentially the whole point of this video.

[@stenduginski2306]

New mma students like "Ill try spinning! Thats a good trick!"

[@perthDev]

Goddamn you young anakin skywalker

[@berserk3380]

Let me be the spinning beyblade

[@fahed2544]

I appreciate this video, it’s insightful for beginners and more advanced kickboxers. I like the idea of having a few moves that have a high success rate without a lot of experience while also knowing the risks and ideal uses for those moves. Really great stuff, actually! Thanks man!

[@jusan_tinos]

1:53 *cough Wilder *cough

[@Glock-bj3nz]

1:55 wilder

[@carl8752]

Y e p

[@hoop6988]

Pretty much

[@untilheaven]

fedor is the master of the overhand right

[@KeyserSoze23]

Now all you have to be is 6'7" with tons of fast twitch muscle.

[@vicnapo6529]

Bruh he is actually doing an analysis of my style

[@dropkickcorpse]

Thanks for the video. I've definitely seen the Rear Hook and Front Kick problems before, but I haven't kept track of it like your video. The Spinning Backfist is weirdly the go-to for overly aggressive newbies who've never been seriously hit in the back of the head before.

[@insidetrip101]

I'm so glad that you've shown these techniques because I don't train striking. Now I can do something that is "highly effective" and get "false positives" if I ever have to strike without ever training striking. Excellent tutorial!

[@SlothKong]

Glad I watched this video. I was spamming the lead kick the other day in a sparring session to keep an aggressive opponent at bay. Rather than work on my technique I kept spamming the kick to create distance. I put some serious thought into it at the end of the session but now it just makes so much more sense. Great video once again Mike!

[@crosswren014]

This man just did a list of "5 moves which are so OP I implore you to not use it" lmao

[@artofkickboxing]

Hey Mike! Awesome job covering these 5 techniques that beginners will favor. I definitely agree a lot of times they will use certain moves because they don't have the head movement or foot work to close the distance.

[@mikeywilson6183]

13 years training, kind of falling into a coach/instructor role at my local gym. see a lot of young kids throwing some of these strikes at each other and they do work even though the skill and drilling isnt there. Been a fan of the channel for about a year or so now. would like to come down to MB and check your gym out. located in Gaffney sc at the Eng school of self defense. keep dropping knowledge bombs of these folks.

[@NateWongSongs]

I get the feeling no one is going to stop throwing these moves from this video but everyone’s going to set them up and improve their technique. The details on hip placement were 💯 great vid

[@hard2hurt]

My intention all along

[@thullraven1]

I stumbled on this. I'm an experienced fighter and I already know all this, but I watched this anyway because you are such an excellent teacher and have a way of getting the information across in a very realistic way.

[@Mattisin]

Tutorial videos weren't supposed to hurt me

[@robbybee70]

southpaw or compulsive front kicker? or both....

[@heeebeeegeeebeee]

Man great channel. I did martial arts for about 14 years growing up and ... now I just live vicariously through this channel, haha. Maybe one day I’ll get back into it

[@m_js5709]

Totally on point. This highlights the difference between training and competition. The purpose of training is to do things which can allow you to improve and get better. The purpose of competition is to do things will get you results. It's very easy to get stuck in the trap of just doing things which get you results during training but then that also gets you stuck not improving which wastes the training session. Oftentimes if you have a move that's working too much then you should probably stop using it as much during training in general unless you're getting ready for a competition where you'll rely on it because your time would be better served working on things that are more difficult for you so that you again can actually improve.

[@x.invictus6597]

Your delivery of your points is amazing.

[@TheJoshuapierce]

That video was awesome 😎 I’ve been doing martial arts for ever now and never has it been explained better then that in my opinion.

[@KaptainCanuck]

The closer to correct term for the "overhand rear" (overhand right is a limiting term) is, actually, a cross. The cross is NOT simply any "rear straight" but is a punch that, when the head slips under, the opponent's punch is between your head and your punch, which arcs over the opponent's arm to the jaw. A great defensive counterpunch but takes great timing, as well. (info courtesy of the great Jack Dempsey)

[@cortex7024]

ive been a begginner in MMA but I've trained in Taekwondo since i was 4 so when i first joined the class as the new person, i wasn't actually that bad and surprised a lot of people with my kicking speed and precision and now after a year of it I've gained the ability to use the taekwondo kicks with the MMA style kicking so during sparring im able to trick a lot of people because the are expecting a kick to the body and then i do a fake and flick to their head and then do a nice left kick to the body when they are a bit stunned. i of course don't do it hard and i only do that to experienced friends of mine that have been doing it for a long time and have fought in fights but still its great that im still relatively new and yet im already caught up with them and i have more tricks that they do

[@silverousleonidas5790]

7:44 - Anyone else wanting to make bad Kung Fu joke when they saw this?

[@nobodysfavourite6953]

That superman punch explanation was an eye-opener

[@eriklindkvist7247]

Love your voice when you say “never turn your back on your opponent” 😂👍 Good video by the way!

[@bigdaddyjuan6720]

In wrestling back in school we would just keep learning the basics until we got really good at them and that's all we really needed

[@instinctfaust9181]

I remember when I was doing all those second opinions at the end of the vid and now I’m doing all the first. It’s good to remember we’re you came from. Also love the vids

[@H.haru_u]

try sparring with jeet kune do teachers i want to see more of the icy mike vs other martial arts those are good videos

[@andrewlaw8121]

I like this video. We should always understand the decisions we make and not make in the ring. If we don’t understand why we hit or not get hit, we’re wasting training time...

[@GTFORDMAN]

ahar yes but the 'Spinning Superman back fist' can only be successfully learned once the individual moves have been successfully trained! ;-)

[@periodic98]

I find that the teep is a good way to end a combo to create distance after finishing an exchange,it doesn’t have to do damage,it just has to create distance.Same kinda concept with finishing your combos with a jab in boxing to make space after.

[@allstarwoo4]

I think that’s kind of the point and problem. It is good but because it’s so good you don’t have an incentive to learn other techniques.

[@Servant.of.the.MostHighSWT]

Amazing!! Love this channel & content brother 🙏🏼

[@Wtfisahandlebar]

Beautiful explanation, I'm going to keep this in mind while sparring thank you very much!!!!!!

[@originalusernameguy]

The answer to all the questions at the end is "because it looks cool" 😎

[@13earj3w]

Can you do a video about stress training? I want to train out of my freeze response. I don't freeze up from sparring/tournaments but I do in real world chaotic situations

[@Condeycon]

I did a pre-vid prediction based on the title and was right on both spinning backfist and superman punch. As a short intermediate-beginner I abused the hell out of those things when I first started lol. I would also add jumping kicks to the list. They have a lot of the same benefits of the superman punch but in kicking form. I learned a lot of them early on and really favored them over learning how to throw a decent roundkick.

[@jamesthompson8084]

"He might even make an amateur or professional career" *cough* deontay wilder *cough*

[@mattdowds8505]

Anakin Skywalker "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!" Icy Mike "Stop spinning! Please stop spinning!"

[@phasecheck5774]

I always get great results from my sidekicks

[@itsdafna6577]

When I first Knew About Your Channel I Immidiatly left my BJJ Gym (im a purple belt) I Moved To Muay Thai anf i can safly say hand to hand combat is the real deal Mike!

[@astyages889]

As a beginner boxer , thank you my friend , i figured what iam doing wrong everytime because of this vid .

[@fbiagent2848]

I think the right hook is less of a gimmick or “false positive.” Superman punch and spinning back fist are definitely more gimmicks than useful tools. I use the right hook and set it up as a tool and it works just as good as my rear roundhouse for its purpose

[@Ninjacob00]

Which is fair but Mike makes a good point that the rear hook becomes gimmicky when not trained properly because it devolves into a right/left overhand that leaves you with the “Deontay Wilder” situation where your fundamentals suffer since you have easy success with the overhand

[@jeraldmcclainofficial6005]

Excellent tips! Liked. Subscribed.

[@TheWillToFight]

It takes practice but you can use the combination of a pullback and a lead snap kick can sometimes be quite effective

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah that's not what these guys are doing lol

[@TheWillToFight]

@@hard2hurt Yeah mate I know exactly what you’re getting at lol it is a bit more of an advance move to put it off correctly

[@crisscross2310]

A short guard that's practically in place /someone with a close and high fence will catch that spinning backfist in tight as it impacts the hook/side guard and have rear to side control no problem

[@bladecommando]

Nice to hear you echo what my instructor teaches.

[@t-pupz]

Very insightful. Thank you for having this video

[@matthewm3669]

This makes me want to become a human beblade "let it rip"

[@1ばかぶた]

I agree, the most important thing is the stamina efficiency

[@saenchai7792]

Great video

[@coopscommentary5372]

Totally get not using it lazily or without reason, especially as far as beginners needing to form good habits, but the front kick as an entry is absolutely an "honest" way to close distance/begin exchanges. For one if you're getting leg kicked or calf kicked when you try to close, it takes that target away, unlike entering in a boxing stance which often leaves the lead leg exposed to kicks (a la Max v Volko II). Again I get that's a niche technical adjustment with serious reasoning behind it's use, but just thought it was worth throwing out there as to when it can be good to do.

[@ArisenMind]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks Mike!

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I learned the pull from my boxing coach. Still only just getting used to practicing the spinning back fist. A gym I was training at 3 yrs ago taught and kinda drilled the superman punch, but I was never into using that move. Idk why. Lol. Also, kinda not used to throwing right hooks. Though I often practice them. However, I will throw a right lead hook, separate from a left lead hook.

[@ak4600]

You guys are such good coaches, I wish I live close to your gym and train by you

[@SJ_Jordan]

Comment on the super man punch, can often be countered with a side kick to the stomach or liver. only mentioning it because there’s hella beginners flying and spinning through the air at my gym and that’s what I’ve been using to stop em.

[@quinnlaya331]

I barely do spinning attacks without setups because somebody can throw an overhand to your head while moving to the direction of the spin where the attack ends. I mean look at martin nguyen vs eduard folayang. That was enough to show me not to overuse spinning attacks or to throw them without setups.

[@curiousoli]

That was an interesting discussion. Thanks !

[@alexanderfriemann5906]

Keep this up! You're are great influence Mike! I implement alot of your and and Liam Harrisons techniques while coaching, en everything is suck a great flow tocit, and good explanations. Dont. Ever. Stop!

[@pquic]

the spining back fist's problem is even if you do it fast it just has to be blocked like any other side punch such as a hook and then you stop with your back to your opponent

[@hard2hurt]

No you dont

[@Akr0n24]

Good video, even better conclusion.

[@TD-zs2nc]

Fun nerd fact: In video games these are called "first order optimal strategies." It's like E Honda's hundred hand slap, or Kirby's down B rock attack. They are easy to execute, high rate of success techniques that beginners latch onto at the beginning of the game at the expense of learning fundamental strategies.

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah devote that time on kirby to your parasol game

[@marconoris4932]

The superman punch can even be used as a safe way for leading an opponent into a grapple, just like GSP did with his jab(lead kick->superman jab->grappling and throwing on the ground). It's just to good for your own good if you are learning how to fight, cause it makes you want to use just that.

[@weniswarrior666]

Switched to southpaw recently (left hander coming from wrestling) and been spamming my left hook ever since thanks to this video. At least I also started using my superman punch more technically.

[@Clyde1996]

So.. we're not throwing spinning shit now? I know somebody that will be happy to hear that. Great videos, I don't know how I found this channel but you've been an awesome help during lockdown training.

[@bullfrogboss8008]

Man your videos make me miss boxing classes

[@youtubesbichasspolicys5888]

The superman punch is useful when you realise the belt you’re after isn’t the Lw/Mw belt but actually the universal championship belt

[@IamTheFive]

Beautiful summation.

[@miniapplesun]

I think spinning stuff is for when you miss a round kick and end up in an awkward half turn.

[@VroomVroomzzz]

finally i’ve found someone who finds UFC sloppy front kicks annoying to watch

[@coolman54061]

go watch boxing then

[@kermit1211]

Make that 2 people. I also didn't like the way they use front kicks.

[@VroomVroomzzz]

@@kermit1211 yea it’s like a “i wanna kick but i’m too tired to kick properly so just swing my leg out there”

[@VroomVroomzzz]

@@coolman54061 it’s not about me disliking the use of other strikes or techniques other than hands. but more of they just throw that kick out like a lazy kick

[@kermit1211]

@@VroomVroomzzz this is basically me in every TKD tournament I go to.

[@nunninkav]

Hmm.. I counter the spinning back fist by circling behind them and throwing a lead hook into the back of thier head, their shoulders key you in if you notice it. The thing is, you may not catch it the first time, but guys who do it, tend to do it alot, after the first one or two times you'll see it. Generally though, if you are constantly moving offline anyways, you may just step behind them when they spin.

[@jupiterjunk]

Sage advice 6:50 You'd have to be Barry Allen, to get someone's back, when they're doing a spin. Yeah, I tried that once. Once. I thought I could catch my partners back, because I knew my friend, how he fought, and how he "usually" set himself up for a spin; or so I thought. Bill had been practicing a more "vertical" spinning back kick, for his close-range kick attack. I didn't know this, but I found out. I caught his, very sharp, right fibula (ankle bone) with my right ear. My left ear popped, I saw a flash of light, and had to quickly recover myself, from the ground, before the follow-up foot strike came crashing down.

[@abdelhakym8283]

It's one thing only coaches understand when you want to show a technique but you know It's gonna be tough getting it through some heads

[@datguy9408]

I have a really good turning back kick but it was after learning boxing that kick became nastier. Otherwise I really don’t like spinning around much besides the occasional spinning back fist.

[@benjaminhorowitz9927]

I used to suuuuck at boxing and the only thing I did was supermanpunch but then one of my partners Mo teap kicked me out of the air after trying it one to many times. It like jumping into a spear. After that I started using my jab better and started having fun in sparring and then the lockdown came. Anyways my now I now how to enter without without spamming superman punches.

[@graphthis2249]

Is it unreasonable to block a leg kick and then move into a superman punch as a counter to the initial leg kick?

[@cherokeefit4248]

What do you think the outcome will be with Kuntry Hoodlum vs Turrman at R&R?

[@Diabolical-Divinity]

You are so an instructor, I mean that with fu5ll positivity. I would come to you and let you pull me apart. Respect!

[@peartree8338]

"Here's might even win a World Championship..." Igor Vovchanchyn flashed before my eyes. 🤣🤣🤣

[@sh33psk1n8]

During the spinning-hook-kick you also turn your back for a split second and no one cares. So I don´t see a problem here. I wonder why my Kickboxing instructer never tought us the spinning backfist. I´ve never seen it in any of the training sessions. Is it just to simple of a move or are there any cons?

[@Inspectorzinn2]

I think you just used reverse psychology on me. You've managed to convince me to start trying these out lol but your main point is solid.

[@hard2hurt]

maybe it was double reverse psychology

[@knightofjustice5475]

The thing is, no one straightens their punches, but it's outstandingly more effective than winging the arm out to try generate power. Takes practice, and discipline to employ in a real match/fight, but if you do, it works.

[@Lawland]

Hey Mike, what are the pros and cons of having the heavy bag touch the floor? What would you recommend for a home gym with just the one heavy bag

[@willh3972]

I've some undercard matches where the spinning back fist is well setup, timed and executed for a knockout. Then theres Chael Sonnen trying it against Spider Silva where the only person he hurts is himself

[@beatlebomber]

Very good instruction. Keep it up.

[@unknownbk2719]

Love ur vids very helpful to a beginner boxer👌💫

[@martysanchez8894]

Well put. There's a reason you rarely see the veterans at the gym use those moves in sparring. It's just not as important to work on when you already know they work - time is better spent mastering more fundamental skills.

[@totallyinteresting68]

Exactly. They’re great to have in your toolkit but they’re not that hard to throw, i why practice them as much as something fundamental

[@hard2hurt]

Spot on assessment

[@abduljewadsaddo309]

The chuck Liddel disrespect. I love it.

[@pleaseenteranamepleaseente7381]

What do you think about tactical gloves in terms of self defense? Mainly speaking of the ones with metal knuckles. Are they actually effective or no?

[@zeekmotion3622]

Amazing explanation👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@lightsoul8973]

For my prospective, you forgot to mention the spinning back kick. I've "won" a good number of sparring sessions sitting clueless at safe range, faking a lowkick then finally spinning into a back kick... Pretty vicious and it can land in every direction too ;)

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

How long before learning the frozen beam?? cut off the head and spine is legal? How many get the jocke??