Behaviour Misses Again with Skull Merchant - 8.3.0 Patch Notes - Dead by Daylight

[@mckookie2967]

They said they are reverting the stupid Unknown slowdown changes, it just wasn't mentioned

[@Picymeatball6897]

That's awsome

[@ScottJund]

ah dammit i read that on reddit and forgot to mention it, ty !

[@Trident_Gaming03]

What was the slowdown change?

[@artemyburakh12]

​@@Trident_Gaming03tapping his power

[@LiminalAlice4417]

happy to hear that but a bit bummed that theres still gonna be all that UI clutter

[@dominiccoughlin3505]

Scott looks like a substitute teacher

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

True and real

[@funkermonker6485]

𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘷 𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘵

[@etanlg]

The hot substitute teacher

[@imamemestar]

Hey guys Scott here today I will be doing the registration, please say yes when I call your name

[@philipmrch8326]

Substitute teachers look like Scott

[@YouLikeBosch]

Behaviour devs, eyes sunken and bloodshot, backs sore and throbbing from slaving away over the spaghett' code for yet another unintended patch cycle, seeing Scott immediately post with another scathing headline: o______O

[@DJinThaMatrix]

This dude proses

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

You know what ELSE is sore and throbbing?

[@TravisTLCdrumming]

😂

[@spooky0_0.]

I don't understand how BHVR is handling Skull Merchant. If she's supposed to be a sort of "tracker" instead of applying haste and hindered, I would make it so that scanned survivors reveal their aura for a brief moment and keep the stealth. Pretty sure there isn't a killer with built-in aura reading.

[@ProtsmanPanther]

As far as I know, the only one is like Trapper when someone gets caught in a trap lol

[@-arcademaster101-]

@@ProtsmanPanther Oh yeah, I've never thought about trapper seeing the aura of trapped survivors. I remember how (until Vecna), Trapper was the only killer whos power could change the players hud icon (as in the survivor face on the side). Every other killer just added an element on top of it.

[@tmoney1487]

Just give her killer instinct, thats basically aura reading for killer powers. And it bypasses stuff like distortion or off the record or object of obsession.

[@Jefrejtor]

​@@ProtsmanPantherplenty of killers have aura reading from addons, none get aura reading from base power

[@TheKing-wf9es]

So,they Rework an annoying Killer,then the Mains of them complain and we get an even more annoying Version Like Knight

[@fishyg2373]

its so weird playing this game without following the patch notes whenever something changes. I still have no idea how Skull Merchant works because they changed her like 6 times

[@anettelma123]

I had the same thing with Onryo for a while and I still don't understand what they changed in Trickster

[@rip2lucasX]

I hate it lol

[@oimeee]

basically stay in drone scan area u take dmg

[@stannisthemannis8694]

To oversimplify basically she can either force a 3 gen by leaving her drones in an area or she can drop the drone in chase and give herself bloodlust 2.

[@AeonLettuce]

I literally don't even try to understand what she does anymore. Her entire development tale (from release to present day) has given so much secondhand embarrassment

[@Spudmay]

"we here at behavior have decided that the trap killer we created would be best suited as not a trap killer."

[@MightyJabroni]

The thing is, the Skull Merchant, as she is right now, will never work as a trap based killer. Who in the blue hell is supposed to be surprised by her drones? These things are super obvious. Even more so, once they emit a massive light circle. So she basically HAS to play like a Trapper, who just shuts down every pallet in chase. And the buff/debuff craze is nothing butt a band aid, to make that viable. Because otherwise, there simply would be nothing. BHVR have designed themselves into a corner with this killer.

[@Spudmay]

@@MightyJabroni agreed. The stealth of the drones should have been a much bigger deal.

[@Angel_Flash]

@@MightyJabroni you say that but i see streams and videos where people get pissed because they're being chased and their blind teammates are running into drones giving SM haste for free lol

[@MightyJabroni]

@@Angel_Flash These guys most likely run into the drones, not because they don't see them, but because the probably have no clue, that they are speeding the killer up. That is just the intrinsic problem of DBD, though. It is a party game, which many enjoy casually. And it is very easy for us seasoned players to underestimate, the insane learning curve that DBD presents for new players. Understanding the counter-play to 37 killers (and counting) almost requires a Doctor’s degree by now. XD

[@lolohnah]

@@MightyJabronithat’s very inaccurate. every killer besides nurse follows the same basic mechanics when looping. on top of that, behavior’s incredible lack of creativity leads to killers with powers that are very derivative of each other. so even though there are 37 killers, you’re effectively only really learning 10 or so, the rest can just be countered using that same basic techniques you use for countering different kinds of powers. the real problem is that dbd is a relatively popular game and the average player is both bad and unwilling to get better. some because their play time is limited and they have more important things to do, others because they simply refuse to apply themselves

[@arcarc2663]

Corrective Action will block all skill check failures that happen when leaving a gen, from across the entire map, for free. That alone is stronger and worth more gen progress than literally every other genrush perk currently in the game. That can be 50%+ gen regression blocked even if the player just stands AFK the entire match.

[@mariofanisme123]

thats exactly what i was thinking, getting a skillcheck when leaving the generator is like 90% of missed skillchecks and negating those sounds useful; not to mention being able to see if they are getting pushed off the gen hence gaining info on the killer!

[@iswiftyfox8997]

Also sometimes stealth killers can easily sneak up on people working on gens but if u just have people sitting on the gens not giving two shits about hitting skill checks so they are fully focused on stuff around them that’s also kinda an underrated effect ngl.

[@The_FadedLine]

@@mariofanisme123 do we know that it will work on those annoying skill checks that happen the second you stop repairing a generator though?

[@mariofanisme123]

@@The_FadedLine we dont; but if it does, id say its a balanced perk with a niche but good use!

[@TheMrFancyKiwi]

It's weird how BHVR keeps doing this. They did the same thing with Trickster. Made a bunch of changes, some good some bad, then when it came to live, they removed or changed what the killer players liked and made what the survivors didn't like better so no one is happy.

[@Tundraviper41]

They need to turn the old mori into a hook charm for killers, as a tribute to an offering that has been in the game for a VERY long time.

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

Another charm for the pile nobody uses

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

This is a quality idea. Really hope your idea happens 👍

[@TheReZisTLust]

I'd rather have a charm than say a icon tbh. Icons block a banners full potential and charms at least can get thrown in a thematic hook set​@@PistolSlinginMothMan

[@Koneyy]

i think it's almost comical how the finishing mori system has been in the making for 2 years and now that it's finally here it is literally a nothing change.

[@iswiftyfox8997]

Ikr. Isn’t this like the second or third time they tried to implement it to? Nobody likes it lol. The Mori system was completely fine before

[@greenbrickbox3392]

Idk why they have tried to push this for so long and invested so much manpower into a change people don't really want. Making cypress mori basekit is fine but I don't think it required this much work lol

[@mckookie2967]

@@Koneyy yup like the "twins rework"

[@TheReZisTLust]

​@@greenbrickbox3392less bp put into random blessings and more into killer buff blessings maybe

[@woke.0220]

Scott was here

[@Symmetrikal]

Skull Merchant drones still only have 1 scan line, and no scouting mode, so consistently proccing the haste is going to be basically impossible with the fast vault change. And if you get scanned 4 times against 1 line drones to get hindered i mean, that's just a skill issue. she's literally just a less precise clown who needs to hit 4 purple bottles before the survivor gets slowed down

[@Napstah]

switch drone rotation button : *exist*

[@egocentric.0]

@@Napstah True enough, though personally I think that she will still be really suffering. Which is good, I like that she's not as braindead as before, but even I have to admit these changes are questionable.

[@Matiassanita]

@@Napstah yeah, but now you get a slow down for trying to play actively. it just punishes trying to play a more skilled and proactive playstyle.

[@amethystway2028]

She also turns into a 110 killer when changing rotation of the drones, so there may be room to just crouch the scan lines with more leeway

[@tobiz1922]

Agree. I've read the patchnotes and my first thought was "they're nerfing her again?" She could have 20% haste and hindered. Doesn't really matter if it's so much work to get 1 scan off.

[@lordchipo]

Corrective action may actually be good for those moments you let go of a gen and get a skill check.

[@kitanat9944]

Zanshin tactics really needs to be 5 or 6 seconds like Alert or Troubleshooter.

[@Lars-Liam-Vilhelm]

Aura read is generally stronger for killers than for survivors, so yeah there's no reason why it should be 8 whole seconds, which can be extended to 10 seconds with Lethal.

[@ok3enny]

Yeah, I'm hoping they chop like 2 seconds off in a future patch.

[@spooky8491]

Troubleshooter can be stacked up to 4 times by different survivors, so realistically the killer aura read should be stronger

[@kitanat9944]

@@Lars-Liam-Vilhelm Which is already a pretty strong and often-chosen perk. Yikes.

[@kitanat9944]

@@spooky8491 Killer aura reading is super powerful. No killer aura reading perk besides Lethal needs be more than 6 at base. Zanshin tactics can allow you up to 3 mindgames with wallhacks as a killer. Any decent killer knows that’s crazy. Lethal, I’m All Ears, Zanshin Tactics will be absolutely disgusting even with just Pain Res or Pop.

[@Technature7567]

I think it's worth mentioning that Corrective Action is also useful for when anyone gets a skill check the frame they run away from the killer off of a generator. WAY TOO MANY TIMES THAT HAPPENS!!!

[@marcusbourchier2245]

BHVR: "Here's the Skull Merchant. She's a setup trap type Killer. We want to punish her for setting and forgetting." Has the same energy as nerfing thanatophobia because it's very strong on Legion and Plague so that it's now very strong ONLY on Legion and Plague.

[@Lecruidant]

"Hey guys! We have a PTB so you can test changes we're making!" Patch notes drop "Oh, yeah. That PTB? Those changes mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and we made other changes that you won't be testing but that will be going out to live anyway. Thanks for.. idk caring"

[@abubaytnighan6480]

They could do updated PTBs, i dont see why not besides their roadmap getting messed up

[@NeilMarshall6]

"If anything the killer should be rewarded more for setting up an active web an controlling the area where chases go, and not just shitting out a drone inmediately" So kinda like old skull merchant? I'm not sure SM haters would be happy with that (actually no matter what they do to her, she will be always hated).

[@MostLikelyDreaming]

Corrective action can now be used to prevent the whole team's random missed skill checks when leaving a gen, and I think that's worth it. Blowing up a gen because the killer showed up never feels good, and now 3/4 people won't have to worry about it (and you could see where the chase is taking place with the aura read)

[@kutoro4497]

9:40 so basically it’s just map wide bullying…like, “haha look at this stupid idiot who missed a skill check”

[@some_dude_I_guess]

Skull Merchant got the Trickster Treatment ™️

[@EliHead-u6c]

Wdym trickster treatment, he's like upper b tier now right, skully won't be as unplayable as pre ptb but she will be FAR from above c tier.

[@some_dude_I_guess]

@EliHead-u6c I meant it in the way that they made changes that real Trickster mains didn't advocate for while not addressing the issues that made him "unfun" to play against in the eyes of most survivor players

[@EliHead-u6c]

@@some_dude_I_guess Ah yeah, game play wise she'll still have quitters, however against swfs she's still a squirrel on a highway full of Chevy silverados . Guess time will tell when the rework arrives.

[@F1END8LOODED]

thank god they brought back the original zanshin effect, i loved running it on doctor to ensure i could deny resources

[@Funky-Monk-]

It is wild to me that people complain about SM getting free hits, when Clown is in the game with a 3 times better ability for that. You also have to leave the loop, all you can do is prerun and predrop

[@Bodyknock]

Regarding Corrective Action, being map wide is actually a nice little buff because even good players occasionally accidentally fail a skill check when they get off a generator and a check just happens to appear right at that moment. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least one such failure every couple of matches even with players who normally hit all their skill checks. It's just a law of large numbers thing, with multiple people doing gens throughout the span of a match and multiple times people get off the gens part way through repairs someone is bound to get unlucky now and then. So worst case I bet even if all the players can reliably hit skill checks while they're actively working on gens, Corrective Action would still turn at least one or two failures into good successes over the course of a couple of matches.

[@ChaosTheStrange]

Y'know funny thing, I'm pretty sure it'll apply to every kind of skill check now, since it's global. I wonder if it works with Hook Skill Checks, DS Skill Checks, Auto Didact Skill Checks, etc. It'd be funny to just prevent someone from killing themselves, and then re-assuring them once you're out of stacks while you go get more.

[@xSinfulGodx]

In my opinion, as a sm main, i think the changes still make her a f tier killer. The changes are basically forcing you to trap a survivor in a loop and constantly rotate the drone for scans, but the survivor has to be moving. She only gets haste 5 sec after deployment or rotate when a survivor is scanned. Against low tier survivors that will be doable but not against high tier survivors. She still will have 1 drone line, so in enclosed maps, she will be difficult to play. Outdoors will be her best maps.

[@Kaius.]

they're doing to skully what they did to trickster, they're changing her in a way that lowers the skill floor and punishes the players who actually liked learning and mastering their powers. i wish BHVR would use this "consultant program" to actually consult the high level mains of these killers to help identify the real pain points and whatnot...

[@BunnychanFarabee]

There was literally nothing to master with SM.

[@azura6804]

ah yes the skill mastering of skull merchant xd

[@joshsquidlyburgh5820]

Here comes all the people who didn't play skull merchant to claim she doesn't have any skill

[@vindruva9640]

@@BunnychanFarabee you can hate a character without spreading misinformation about them btw

[@mitchgalbreth5531]

Oh this comment got me rolling. What skill? There's not skill before, now, or after any of this

[@amethystrose3480]

SM is possibly playable again which I like, but now the drop a drone in chase aspect has been made the only viable way to play. *Inhales and exhales* I just wanted a more unique trapping play style. I like the haste aspect but not the hindered part, and I liked how each survivor on the radar gave small buffs to speed. If the speed debuff was removed with tweaks how drones scans worked, that would have been near perfectly fine. This is just an insult to SM players. Some of us try to promote a more proactive play style focusing on chasing and not just anti looping by dropping a drone in chase all the time. We try to be civil despite having a bad past hung over our heads every single time we just try to play a game. Now we're forced to conform to a horrible play style some of us don't even like and are told to deal with it till this update. I just can't with this s***.

[@Matiassanita]

unfortunately, we are a minority that just gets free hate for liking the killer. i just hope that she doesn't just get forgotten and never touched again, but i got the feeling that it will definitely happen.

[@Katana314]

I'm kind of opposed to really illogical, high-impact power effects the survivors can't easily track. I almost dislike Legion, because it's hard to explain to new players how and why it works, and why a deep-wounded survivor should body-block for a healthy one. Wesker has one of these where his power recharges faster the more Uroboros infections are out, and it's a bit weird, but not so high-impact. But giving the killer Haste is something the game really can't do lightly, and I guarantee you less than 50% of the game's current players are aware that quietly sitting in scan range has such a massive effect on someone's chase all the way across the map. It makes no sense. I generally get what you're saying about keeping her more active. I'm hoping an increased focus on the scan direction switch does something for that, but I also don't know how they'd incentivize pre-trapping areas well.

[@Matiassanita]

@@Katana314 pre-trapping could work out better if the drones could not be hacked right away, similar to demogorgon's portals.

[@Grafii2198]

All in all SM is pretty much dead, she still has just one beam which can be seen from afar as there is no stealth mode and in order to get the haste effect you need to slow yourself down, its not like you can set up a trap and it will give you haste later without your input so if you want to use it in chase and miss then you will get slowed. Also, as she is slower when changing the direction you may crouch to not get scanned and not give her the haste at all. Hinder also went from barely noticeable if at all to kind of noticeable, and you are also immune to scan while fast vaulting, so you can't even lasertag near vaults anymore. I think it's mostly another nerf with just few buffs thrown in.

[@laskodramo]

Beams can't be seen from afar, they are invisible beyond the 16 meters radiis

[@Grafii2198]

@@laskodramo Exactly, there is like no way of walking into them by accident as you can see them

[@H.P.LovecraftOnDiscord]

Corrective action now gets rid of 0 frames, which means one proc of that perk effectively saves 10% of a gen that would have been lost otherwise anywhere on the map

[@FraoAlt]

The only way they can salvage Cranium Trader is by making her work similarly to Larry. As in the drones have some kind of effect(s) that you have to manually control for it to work, rather than being a "set it and forget it" kinda thing. Problem is they'll never do that because it requires actually putting in the effort to fix their mess.

[@adriii3737]

Corrective action is rly good bc if u miss a skillcheck knowing someone has it u decide to reveal ur aura to the teammate that brought it

[@FancyDakota]

Distortion needs to activate when completing Generators, not for chases. It incentivizes progressive and healthier playstyles but doesn't force a playstyle.

[@taragnor]

Yeah it totally misses the mark. Distortion is a perk that weaker survivors take to help them contribute to a team. Distortion isn't a perk that survivors skilled at chase should be taking, so it makes no sense. If you're good at chases, you don't want to stay off the killer's radar, you want to attract attention. If they wanted to rework the perk for skilled survivors, it should be something like "when a teammates aura would be read, they read yours instead" or something to that effect. That way it could be a protector perk you can take to keep lower-skilled survivors alive. It makes no sense in the current incarnation.

[@gorrazin7983]

I believe the only change that should have gone through with Skull Merchant is the 1 beam change. I know Skull Merchant "mains" would be upset with that but it adds counterplay, and makes the Skull Merchant more skillful at the same time. Other than that, everything should have been kept the same. Skull Merchant already isn't all that great, but the lack of counterplay other than praying to RNJesus that there's a long string of connected loops, was horrendous. It was basically a choice of "avoid lock on stack, possibly get hit. Leave loop, maybe get hit unless there's a connected loop. Stay at loop and possibly get 2 tapped."

[@PixelBush]

*THE* Skull Merchant main here: 1 beam was hands down the best change on her PTB and if they had properly balanced around that it would have been a W update.

[@adi_baa]

Scott, i don't believe the majority of the backlash on PTB corrective action was because people thought it would make it to live. I (and nearly everyone else I saw) was just stunned that bhvr changed the perk that turns missed skill checks into greats and didn't even think for a single minute about any other perk that would interact with it. EVERYONE'S first thought reading it was "oh man, that would be fucking stupid with hyperfocus, no way they didn't test/account for that though" only to be proven that they once again didn't test anything. It's more just shock at how unaware of a change it was.

[@Agony-co4pd]

Survivors have one decent counter to 50 killer aura reading perks and ad ons and people bitch and cry about distortion as if the old version couldn't be countered.

[@Orthane]

I am a P100 Skull Merchant main who has over 1400 hours on her. I have been telling them on the Forums since her rework what changes she needs, remove the Hinder entirely, it isn't needed but the Haste is, remove Stealth Mode from Drones, it's not fun to have to play Russian Roulette with drones in places like Shack, and if that isn't enough then add a -1 Scan line removal whenever a Survivor hacks a Drone so there's a way to remove stacks so she isn't guaranteed an injure. That's it. Why do they keep doing these weird, convoluted changes that no one literally NO ONE wanted? All this does is force her to play in the most braindead way possible of "Put Drone at loop, spam rotate, get injure, M1" that's her entire playstyle and her only playstyle now.

[@GoldenDeer_]

I am a p100 Skull Merchant as well. I think they should just go back to old Skull Merchant at this point. You can’t kick gens forever and I found her chase more enjoyable back then. How I’d change her right now is make it 3% haste if a survivor gets scanned in chase, 5% hinder as normal, remove the deep wound, remove 1-2 drones so she has 4-5, lower the downtime of drones that are hacked but make it so you can’t recall them if hacked, make her stealth the same as it was, and spread the distance between drones so they can’t stack ridiculously. If it was an entire rework I would remove the haste and hinder completely and lean heavily into her stealth and tracking. Make her an ambush killer. Give her a damn identity.

[@Orthane]

@@GoldenDeer_ Old Skully didn't have Hinder or free injures at all, and honestly her chase was better. I think going back would be better as well but whatever they're cooking this aint it. Also I don't want to see her haste gone. She's an M1 killer with no way to down outside of M1ing. It's the Hinder that's the problem, the Haste is needed and a core part of her kit, moreso than even Claw Traps which is why Expired Batteries is her best addon right now.

[@tiller3777]

crazy how they "one and done freddy" essentially killing the character and seeing nothing wrong with that, but when they decide to touch SM and nerf the problems about her they immediately revert the nerfs and buff her instead 😐

[@meme_lover.69]

learn to LITERALLY get good at the game lil bro.

[@Tobi-qu7go]

While people say predator is gonna be OP, I think the current distortion will counter it nicely. Plus, it's a 30sec cooldown on predator anyway

[@jordanb2864]

Predator op??? Lmao

[@kaned3570]

zanshin tactics still kind of kills mind games for survivors

[@tmoney1487]

You could just play object or distortion

[@BubbaSimp]

Object best counter!

[@PixelBush]

Right, back to the trenches...

[@EliHead-u6c]

Depressing times, but at least behavior tried to cushion the blow here, unlike a certain preschool gardener...

[@-z4630]

Corrective action's new use is making is so your teamates don't blow up the gen as they leave it to do something else. Still leaves you vulnerable, but no random 10% regression since someone wanted to go for a save or is getting chased off the gen.

[@DrewpyCheekz]

What I really like about the Zanshin adjustment as well is that I'm All Ears has a use again.

[@Minronis]

Skull Merchant? Ah, you mean Shittier Clown, she's my favorite Killer.

[@DeadHardTV]

"Woman with a wrist blade" at this point

[@EliHead-u6c]

​@@DeadHardTVnah their taking that next patch, not enough counterplay

[@stankyo]

Honestly might unironically run Corrective Action, no more unlucky 10% off a gen if someone gets off

[@ciaran7559]

on the topic of windows being overwhelming on the eyes i agree i kinda wish they woudl rework the visuals of auras a bit

[@Dabajaws]

The distortion changes were exactly what I wanted from a more chase-oriented perk that they wanted to make it

[@youfieua]

They just need to make moris only work after the last gen pops. Idk why they havent tested this yet, but it encourages killers to spread hooks evenly until the end of the match and at least give survivors a semi-full match before getting killed off. It would def lead to more endgame slugging but at that point the risk-reward is appropriate imo

[@peeperinos]

Corrective action will be massive for solo que. Especially on the lower end or against skil check builds

[@buckmills4159]

Zanshin is still op. Seeing all of the windows is a descent effect and adding aura read is crazy. At least they dialed it back but these perks that do multiple things are silly.

[@DecimatedRanger]

Mori changes are a nerf to my beloved Flip Flop + Power Struggle

[@abubaytnighan6480]

That only works once per game anyway tbh

[@DecimatedRanger]

@@abubaytnighan6480 unfortunately true but always worth it when it does

[@ClipsbyDaylight-xd6tm]

Dang Zan Shin is going to make us say good bye to unsafe 4-lane pallet mind games :')

[@andreitgk4748]

They could keep the drones the same maybe give them a bonus and make them so they can detect only running.So a web is good only in chase and not in camping.

[@Bodyknock]

Instead of removing the Cypress mori offering entirely, they could have made it so it allows you to kill one downed survivor once only one or two survivors are left in the match. That would be a buff to the current version of the offering, but it wouldn't significantly change who wins the match overall since it's very rare that you have a game where only two survivors are left, you down one of them, but they still both manage to escape. (It's not impossible in theory but I can't remember ever seeing it happen in actual matches.)

[@MagicNash89]

"We almost had her!!!"😂😂😂GODDAMMIT!!!

[@randomguy6695]

My God, you people despise this killer so much you can’t blatantly see she’s noticeably weaker than before. Trying to get a scan from one scan line is harder to do. Not to mention she’s slower while doing it. It’s not exactly free haste if the survivors know what they’re doing.

[@Minecraftgnom]

Honestly, they should've just made it in a way where Corrective Action doesn't get tokens on non-manual great skillchecks. So only get tokens when you actually hit the spacebar at the correct moment, not when it is corrected/turned INTO a great skillcheck.

[@1cef0ps]

Good distortion change

[@fixedice]

1 person being scanned is now 5% instead of 3% and the hinder is only 2% slower so the speed difference is not different

[@theshore2667]

As a doc main, I thought I was done with doc after zanshin was nerfed, thank god the old effect wasn’t changed

[@Raiden777ify]

I've been saying for a while that the solution to Skull Merchant is simple. Remove all of the Haste and Hindered. Survivors in a Drone can appear on the radar in the way it works currently. When you're examining it and within a certain range. But survivors who are marked appear on the radar constantly, even when you aren't staring at it. Her entire gimmick is about her radars and her scanning, and with the Distortion changes it's clear that BHVR don't want Ratting anymore. This solves both problems.

[@dangernoodle3343]

I really dig the distortion change, i always used it as a chase perk with qaq and lightweight i think but I always felt bad since distortion players have that stigma.

[@GenovatheWitch]

Corrective action means i'll finally be able to play with my noob ahh friends

[@D-Doc-C]

And reveal their aura so you can laugh at them lmao

[@YOGAMALLAMA]

Gonna have fun joking around with friends when they miss lol 🤣

[@mitchsz]

Isn't better to them to learn through mistakes?

[@marcoclegg]

@@mitchsz I'd have to disagree here; they get more opportunities to try hitting skill checks uninterrupted rather than being denied more chances to try again due to being chased now.

[@BenjaminHari]

Interesting change for Distortion, kinda sad that they've changed it but it is better for the chase because often you won't even know why it triggered but at least now you'll know what triggers the distortion so you know what perks/add--ons they have and you can play more around that fact.

[@NickDaGamer1998]

Two tokens was at the minimum that Distortion required for charging in chase, bringing it down to a single makes it nearly as useful as its first version.

[@genesisosuna]

Scott shitting on skull merchant always makes my day

[@EliHead-u6c]

This whole thing started because survivors kept giving up artificially inflating her kill rate, she was never that good if you ducked every half second

[@impermanentLucidity]

Skull Merchant may not be a good killer, but she sure is a good baseball player 'cause BHVR has struck out every time they try to swing at her

[@EliHead-u6c]

@@impermanentLucidity well they did rework her successfully but then inexplicably decided midgame to start swinging left handed

[@AirLight1646]

I kinda love new Corrective Action. I’ll be using it when playing with my bf as he’s good at killer but hasn’t played survivor much. Also, it will have very niche potential to be clutch if teammates get off gens and fail a skill check, as it will prevent that from happening.

[@bigsupremeguy4083]

the way i originally read this was 1 million points per mori offering taken from us, but i guess thats definitely not the case lol. i was so excited

[@Dhampire1976]

I think that for the Mori idea,they should've just kept it as is but instead of removing the offerings,let each offering give a new Mori animation for each killer specifically for more variety

[@benz0988]

everytime i think about dbd moris I remember the insane dbd mobile moris and what a watered down version we have in comparison. Still so sad

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

I’m guessing bhvr has a serious toxic positivity problem because I can’t imagine how some of these decisions get greenlit w/out someone just flat out calling them stupid

[@illicocorvum3341]

I think corrective action would be good for those moments people have to get off a gen and as always at the same time a skill check happens.

[@buckmills4159]

I think there is something people are missing about the new corrective action. Forget about it fixing people flubbing a skill check. As long as people are on gens it could erase the skill check as getting off of generator issue. Which is annoying if you are leaving gen to go unhook someone but way more impactful if you are leaving gen early because of killer approach. If this were to go meta it would be huge for survivors.

[@JaySkottTV]

Congrats on 100m views Scott

[@Millenniuhm]

Community complains about Gen Camping/Kicking SM - -> BHVR makes SM into a chase killer -->Community still cries regardless

[@MementoMori7777]

Unpleasable this community is.

[@blueboy1958]

Yeah it's so fucking funny to me that people still go on and on and on about Skully supposed to be a ''intel/tracking'' killer. While somehow not realising that a killer who can get that much intel, and nothing else, is going to be much better at camping than chasing.

[@Millenniuhm]

@@blueboy1958 she can’t camp gens anymore. Gen kick limits exist and drones got nerfed.

[@blueboy1958]

@@Millenniuhm Even then Making her just a intel/tracking killer will instantly make her F tier. Even Freddy would have a better power

[@Millenniuhm]

@@blueboy1958 freddy has the same power as clown, but far worse. He needs a rework

[@killmaim4]

skull merchant is such a shame because i conceptually like a lot of her ideas! for example I love the radar as-is, I think it's a really fun and unique form of tracking! I love the idea of using drones against survivors n such but there's just so much that doesn't work super well for dbd. I hope they can make her great and unique someday because i think there's a lot of potential

[@Yao_Guai]

A Behavior miss? Impossible

[@TheDeprived]

Actual corrective action being map wide is very nice. Make those skill checks that happen when people exit gens now not an issue. Gets rid of that as well.

[@yvng]

its actually crazy how bad bhvr are at game design. They got so lucky with dbd taking off

[@shyrain67]

i think they messed up with corrective action. i thought it would be the same but the stacks wouldnt recharge if you got a great skill check with the help of someone elses corrective action. what they replaced it with seems really strange

[@anorak865]

10:00 This is my new favorite perk now

[@alcatraz160]

CA change implies that Jonah is an omnipresent entity capable of knowing when you fuck up and fix it in a passive aggressive way.

[@MistarZtv]

Skull merchant player here: the changes, ironically made her even more brain dead to play as. 😂 Cause she's actually punished for swap tagging and timing her spins correctly at vaults now. It's like they've taken all the wrong lessons. 😭. Saying that she got trickstered is a very fair comparison.

[@nathangothan601]

Saying nothing is wrong with the mori change being reverted feels incorrect. The point was that the mori basically removed the killer needing to pick the survivor up to take them to a hook which negates the possibility of a save.

[@ScottJund]

well thats why it takes an offering slot that could have been used for more BP, a better map, etc

[@nathangothan601]

@@ScottJund nobody cares about more BP, as evidenced by the lack of a F given about the increased BP change they looked at making. A better map, sure. I’m not saying that the proposed change they made was the best route, but doing nothing seems like a massive waste of time. But I personally believe that moris can absolutely change a games outcome. Is it OP? Probably not.

[@Lecruidant]

NO! People were going to SLUG MORE??? BUT THEY SAID IT WAS SUCH A RARE THING FOR SLUGGING TO HAPPEN /s

[@themr_wilson]

I also don't like how SM is a stealth killer. Why does she get Undetectable when she sets a drone?

[@desadia]

all they had to do if they wanted to reintroduce the haste this way was just... leave the hindered alone or remove it entirely. why would they increase it back to 8%, that shit is literally unplayable by itself but especially when the killer has haste on top of it.

[@Tobi-qu7go]

While I don't like the haste on Skull Merchant, I like this a lot more then having half my team with a claw trap and seeing undetectable skull merchant ZOOMING up behind me with no way of me escaping. Wannabe Blight

[@gibsonjean70]

Thing is they could just put out surveys to find out exactly how to fix skull merchant and just listen to the community

[@RowanChate]

I have no way of proving it,but a few years ago I wrote to BHVR about a killer idea similar to Skull Merchant. She was called the Vigilante and could place these devices on the ground that would cast a radius and track any survivor that stepped inside. She could also make them sound like generators for a short time to throw some confusion into the mix. Survivors could destroy these devices, but by doing so they would bathe that section of the map in smoke for 30 seconds so you couldn't see very well, and she could stealth while in the smoke. Maybe in practice this would have been an annoying power, but I like killers like Plague where survivors can either fight her one way (stay infected but stay broken), or another (cleanse constantly but risk her main power). I just think the drones can do so much more than what is now just a basic tracking ability and a few annoying haste-related effects.

[@jacobcoates7987]

I think lopro should only do deep wounds for 2 seconds. If youre sprinting for longer than that youve already left the loop.

[@AverageGamerNub-qf6sp]

Skull merchant is just clown with extra steps

[@andrewm6400]

She's not going to be terrible to go against because she still only has one scan line. She needs a full rework.

[@DecisiveHard]

As the sole person doing gens in majority of my games, rip corrective action.

[@BizarreStorm]

Just make it so you cannot deploy a drone when you’re in Chase

[@KittiesRCool]

They just need to rework skull merchant entirely, just give her drones that control like engineer's fang pinhead change. They're so slow

[@MrJP6389]

I won't be getting 1mil BP unfortunately...I don't have power thanks to Helene and I been told by my power company my area won't have power till the end of the month 😔😭

[@FancyDakota]

People not realizing moris incentivize unhealthy playstyles anyway is hilarious. They would incentivize unhealthy slugging in the PTB and they incentivize unhealthy tunneling. Currently, the mori core design is unhealthy, whether they change the offerings or not.

[@levi_a_]

Bloodrush made it through

[@Youre-absolutely-right]

genetic limits too, bye bye Iron Will and other exhaustion perks :)

[@levi_a_]

@@Youre-absolutely-right thankfully bloodrush can help counter this

[@Youre-absolutely-right]

@@levi_a_ oh yeah sure, it's a fair anti-tunnel perk imo, go for it. I'll also run it, double SB goes vroom :D

[@blueboy1958]

As it should. Blood rush is a fun and interesting anti-tunnel perk

[@jacobcoates7987]

I was trying to use blood rush for double head ons. Did not go too well 😅

[@dawsonrudis4642]

They should just say screw it and try to rework merchant to like a Blops 2 rcxd thing. How cool would it be to kamikaze drones into people? Also sounds fun to go against to hear literally artillery flying in. I just feel like one of the coolest things about drones is how well some people fly them, so why not bring it in game?

[@Frozt_KSA]

1 scan line + haste only works within a 5 second window so if you manage to duck the first scan switchback you're probably fine? she will be less miserable than live merchant from what i can tell