BEHEMOTH | Graphics Comparison | PCVR / PSVR 2

[@BadRobo82]

On PSVR2 the graphics look more realistic because of HDR. People don't realize how important it is. As for the textures, geometry, etc., the PSVR2 and PC versions are simply the same and could look much better, especially on a good PC. You can see where the game's budget went and that the game is rooted in the Quest mobile chip, but it still manages to impress with beautiful views, good texture filtering, gore and good art design.

[@waleedisnowagamecatspecifi1499]

@BadRobo82 FOV and HDR are the biggest shocking downgrade that i noticed when i used the quest 3. I couldnt believe how much of a difference that makes specially as I was made to think that pancake would be like this magical crystal clear image. All i got was a sharp but dull and dim and washed out display on quest. Lol and quest 2 and 3S dont even bother mentioning them lol

[@Rostovgenchik]

Strangely enough, specifically on a Pc, if you play on a Pc, then in this case I saw that Quest 3 via cable via Meta Quest link looks better than on a Psvr 2 helmet. But I haven't tried the Ps5 version. It 's just that on a Pc, the picture in terms of clarity , clarity , looks better to me on Quest 3. But for example, in Re 7 VR mode on a Pc, through a Psvr 2 helmet, the picture is much better than through Quest 3.

[@waleedisnowagamecatspecifi1499]

@Rostovgenchik the ps5 with psvr2 is on a whole different level as it uses Dynamic foveated rendering. That gives it a massive edge to surpass most PCs. To get a comparable experience on PCVR you really need brute force to compensate for lack of DFR because fresnel lenses tend to be more mushy than pancake without DFR. That is why quest 2 and quest 3S are so vastly inferior to psvr2 whilw all three are fresnel lenses

[@ZFCaio]

You again with the same comment telling "Quest is holding back VR" 🥱🥱🥱

[@BadRobo82]

@@ZFCaio I didn't write anything like that, you must be delusional. Did Quest hold the game back from being better in terms of graphics, scope and without the limitations that Quest has that must be taken into account when designing a game? Absolutely. Whether Quest is holding back VR in general is a very complicated and debatable topic.

[@waleedisnowagamecatspecifi1499]

Based on all the comparisons, it sounds like psvr2 version is the best overall version to experience this game. Visuals as good as PC at base level but OLED HDR makes it excel for me over all other versions. Secondly the haptics and controller features on psvr2 make it unmatched in immersion. I appreciate that devs did a good job on all versions making it optimized however I think anyone who has access to all versions would and should play this on PSVR2

[@steffendetrick]

I have a PS VR 2 and the biggest problem with the PS VR 2 is your tethered. Especially in a game like this. My first headset was an oculus rift which was tethered then I got a quest 2, then a quest 3 and a PS VR2. I bought behemoth for PCVR because there’s way too much movement in this game for me personally to be tethered.

[@GTNover]

People are starting to realize that OLED+fresnel is still better than LCD+pancake despite Metas marketing push to say otherwise. Don't get me wrong, pancakes eliminates the hassle of finding the sweet spot, which is huge. But there is no "just find the sweet spot" to get actually blacks (simulate darkness) out of LCD panels.

[@GTNover]

​@steffendetrick I bought a 20GB, 6ft extension cable, and have it hooked up to my Kiwi cable management set. Now I only notice the cable if I spin in the same direction 20+ times without reversing. Set up cost like 30 bucks total.

[@steffendetrick]

@ I can feel the cable hanging from the side of my head the entire time, and I’m constantly stepping on it. It’s just hard to go back to a wired headset after playing wireless. Honestly, I bought a PS VR2 because of the few exclusives my quest 3 is still my daily driver.

[@waleedisnowagamecatspecifi1499]

@steffendetrick great that you have both. You get to enjoy both. As the above guy said if wire really bothers you that much, the a 30 dollar investment in a pulley system is going to be well worth it. You get a lot of benefits on psvr2 over quest for AAA VR gaming. No better place to play. For me wire doesnt bother me at all, i never turn 360 and i use analog stick turning in 15 degree increments.

[@BigFrogg]

The fact that a console is this close to a pc at ultra is insane. I really hope this new sales boost the psvr2 has had keeps up because the thing is a beast and if Sony can see a potential for profit in making games for it then we’ll get some absolute bangers in the future

[@tsrichards84]

It’s crazy how close those are. I’m really looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts on the game on the next podcast, Ryan.

[@VRGRID]

Thanks for the feedback, and we're excited to discuss on the next one as well!

[@cia4gent128]

Clearly the PSVR2 has HDR on…HDR is awesome

[@Atum1c]

Foviated rendering and hdr can’t be beat psvr2 will always win , when pssr comes to foviated the psvr2 will be unstoppable

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

????, foveated rendering still can't help the weaker gpu and cpu in a Ps5 or PS5pro match a PC with something like a rtx 3070 class gpu or higher. And any type of upscaling, even DLSS doesn't look very good in VR.

[@SimplexPL]

I'm curious about comparison of PCVR version on Quest 3 and PSVR2.

[@VRGRID]

No pc adapter for psvr 2 here so we can't tell ya unfortunately.

[@gervasiosgerva]

I have played both versions using Psvr2. And they looked the same for me. End up refunded the steam version. Also next time you guy is compare do not use Quest 3 use Psvr2. That way you have a more close comparison.

[@AndreSiqueira]

Great, now I need to buy this game as well.. Damn my wallet is crying! And people were saying PSVR was dead...

[@pmulherin9414]

I’ve found the oled and hdr definitely adds an extra level of realism to VR games.

[@deinehoellesebastian9374]

I'm playing it on Ultra as well, but on HTC Vive Pro 2 and graphics looks not that bright what you have at the Quest 3, but this might be comparing Appels with Bananas. Might be an idea for a better test if you try the PSVR 2 at your PC and check then again.

[@patfish3291]

hopefully we get more dynamic Light, more details like stones, gras and a bit more real norma Maps or geometry in rooms.

[@rogerskinner6320]

The showing of more snow means it was hiding imperfections.

[@stevebobowski3507]

Lenses and panels in the VR headset matter. The test should be psvr2 headset on both pcvr and psvr.

[@VRGRID]

Thinking about it. I just don't wanna deal pc adapter shenanigans

[@stevebobowski3507]

Would love to see a through the lens comparison between a psvr2 vs 4090 and headset like the varjo aero/crystal,BSB, somniun vr1, XR4 or likes of

[@jlg23us]

Only thing that would force me to buy one over the other would be eye tracking or other other feedback the psvr2 has. I love the psvr for those features.

[@VRGRID]

When they are utilized, you freaking notice it!

[@commonfact9680]

Hi were you using a PS5 pro?

[@VRGRID]

Stock ps5 but I've heard there no difference between og and pro as of yet.

[@SpiderLuke]

I can't decide whether to get this on Quest 3 and PC (3080) using my PSVR2 on the PC or just PSVR2. Very specific problem. Lol.

[@VRGRID]

I have a 3080 and use a Quest 3. Great with both. PC is sharper and can be played wireless, but PSVR 2 has the haptics.

[@SpiderLuke]

@VRGRID so, I have to buy them all! Loll jk

[@rogerskinner6320]

This is hoping pc is rendering more but it has more white from the snow.

[@davidepisciotta5693]

Does anyone see a blue reflection inside the headset when you have a dark image with a strong light on the top of the lences (for example in the ps menu and you look down)? I noticed it after a week and it's anti-immersive, i don't know if it's normal

[@memerogers2638]

I see what you mean by 'more clarity' on the pc-vr side. I think that might be the brightness tricking this into belief. It seems the psvr actually has more detail. If you freeze on 8:56 you can clearly see the diffference. Hands down detail for the win on PSVR. But i agree overall both platforms work well here. Also, ramping up brigtness can be achieved if really desired in psvr. But the deeper tones feel more cinematic - less gamey, imho. Even see the example in draw-distance @ 9:34 (with psvr showing better detail further away). A good comparison video here. Thanks!

[@robarmstrong5404]

Inside the headset q3 pcvr looks noticeably cleaner than psvr2. I noticed that immediately.

[@memerogers2638]

@@robarmstrong5404 I just learned that even the devs say pSvr is preferred. That seals it for me as the overall 'Best Way To Play'. Still though im sure a souped up pc does pretty close. Seems though it pushes PC's hard, as even this Video shows the PC stutter.

[@Daeva83B]

Oh man, this game does show scale very well doesn't it? I've been playing no mans sky lately and i notice something about that game.. Scale.. it's not as a good as i want it to be. For example CyubeVR, i was walking next to a mountain and it looked huge... I think behemoth shows scale very well.. and it's just.. amazing when stuff are portrayed so big. Especially in VR.

[@VRGRID]

I thought it handled scale well. Behemoths look huge and backgrounds seemed to be all rendered in 3d giving a great sense of distance and scale on those further away mountains and such.

[@poulinski74]

This is on a 2070 gpu??

[@VRGRID]

2070 super, yup

[@rogerskinner6320]

Paves 2 has more rendered!

[@Offyazz]

I played on both and this game is 100% better on psvr2

[@BigFrogg]

The psvr version looks much better here imo lol

[@goodvibesvr2739]

lol this psvr2 with pc adapters is how im playing this lol i might get the ps5 pro my ps5 died

[@VRGRID]

I gotta get a new pc or upgrade my 4 year old one. Gfx cards are still expensive af

[@leesgamingvideos4060]

Dont use the ps5 pro because difference will be lot bigger. All my psvr collection has had slight boost running on the pro even if stated or not my quest and pc maybe for sale soon.

[@ZFCaio]

It looks good on both, I see no difference, is so subtle I didn't tried the PCVR version yet, just the Standalone, but I liked the Standalone

[@Dasgrubergz]

Bro your rig is below minimum requirements... MINIMUM: OS: Windows 10 Processor: Intel Core i5-9600K / AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Memory: 16 GB RAM Graphics: GeForce RTX 3060 / Radeon RX 6800 Storage: 50 GB available space VR Support: OpenXR, Meta Quest 2+3, Index RECOMMENDED: OS: Windows 10 Processor: Intel Core i7-12700K / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Memory: 32 GB RAM Graphics: GeForce RTX 3080 (10240 MB) / Radeon RX 7700 XT (12288 MB) Storage: 50 GB available space

[@VRGRID]

It's not, 2070 super is comparable to a 3060

[@christophersawdon1617]

It’s almost like Meta paid you to crap on this game, even in just a graphics comparison video you feel the need to tell people the campaign and combat are both lacking and try to persuade people not to purchase, which feels very forced. This is a great game and we need more like this. This is what pushes vr forward, stop holding it back with console wars

[@steffendetrick]

Why would Meta pay him to crap on a game that sold on the Meta headset? You realize this game is on standalone. This is the weirdest comment section I’ve ever seen on any VR channel.

[@VRGRID]

Yes, Meta paid us to crap on a game that is also on the Quest?!?! Btw, this post is the dumbest one I've read in weeks so thanks for the laugh. Also, my channel, my video. I'll talk about whatever I want. If you want to just see the gfx, mute me. I wanted to talk about my experiences with the game so far. We aren't the only ones who think this needs some work and TLC. It's almost like Skydance paid you to blindly defend this game on KZbin (see how stupid that sounds!)

[@steffendetrick]

@ I don’t know how but it seems like every PS VR 2 fanatic ended up in your comment section. I own a PS VR 2 but I’m not a PS VR 2 or Quest enthusiast I’m a VR enthusiast, but I have personal preferences like most.

[@christophersawdon1617]

@@VRGRID If this was the dumbest post you’ve read, why did you take the time to respond with the longest reply you’ve given in weeks? It’s not the first time a company paid reviewers to dunk on a third party game on their own platform, so why are you suggesting that doesn’t happen in the industry? Now you’re the one being sus af. Are you normally this rude to people who watch your channel? You need to work on your manners

[@Atum1c]

Pc looks brighter because this video doesn’t show HDR on psvr2 , even textures look better on psvr2

[@74amazing]

Pseudo objective comparison that lacks the most basic info about resolution.

[@VRGRID]

Like what?

[@74amazing]

@@VRGRID like the encoding resolution? I guess you are aware, that a pcvr game on quest 3 looks quiet different, depending on this factor. If you compare 1440x1536 with ingame ultra settings to psvr2, the result will be completely different than 3072x3126 with ultra ingame settings. In general it is not transparent what you actually compare, since the settings/config on pc are plenty. Do you compare ultra settings in VD, ingame or both ultra with pixel density on top. And even if you don't focus on performance, it would be good to communicate your hardware specs too - like in the description.

[@VRGRID]

@@74amazing Which is why I don't hammer home to hard thew resolution when it comes to the PC settings can be adjusted for the setup. Default Quest 3 resolution. Not to mention KZbins compression of vids can fuck with the final vid so it's harder to talk about res differences when viewers can't see much of difference.

[@74amazing]

​@@VRGRID You could use the same logic to compare a game on 3060 to a 4090, limit the resolution to 1080p and cut the fps at 30 and come to the conclusion, that you prefer the 3060, because it looks "very similar", but the 3060 doesn't need so much space in the pc case. Which would be fine, if you do it transparently. But without transparency, what is the essence of such a vid?

[@Capykiller]

Most boring game with horrible mechanics. Played it for 30 minutes and got lost in loneliness.

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

Doesn't really look like the game was made to take advantage of PC hardware. Some of the textures look low res just like on the PSVR and almost the same amount of pop in as the PSVR version.

[@VRGRID]

I suspect it was built for Quest 2 and scaled up from there.

[@robertdaone]

PC specs? If you have a high end rig with a high end GPU it should look a lot better.

[@VRGRID]

2070 super i9 11000,32 Gb ram