Your welcome, I have just posted a video using the 172, with a bit of subtle flanging, you may like. Cheers Tim.
@varixclub4 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to your next video with your enlarged sound options. I often use a flanger effect with my grandmother (from an old Yamaha SPX-90).
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
I will be doing one, the effect doesn't seem as strong as an outboard guitar FX pedal though.
@gothiccard4 ай бұрын
You're going to need a bigger rack 😮 Thanks for sharing 👍
@DisciplinedCommotion4 ай бұрын
Couple of spaces yet, its what to buy next? it will be a while.
@cornishwavesmusic4 ай бұрын
Very interesting, like me Behringer stuff
@DisciplinedCommotion4 ай бұрын
Cheers, I don't know why Behringer gets bad press, all my experience with them is positive. Well built, sound and look good.
@IanWaugh4 ай бұрын
Hey Tim - You work fast 😄I had an original 100m system and had to pick my modules carefully. Always wanted the Phaser... Sounds really cool 👍
@DisciplinedCommotion4 ай бұрын
Ay-up Ian, yeah thought I'd get a move on. The original modules were and are expensive aren't they, and they look about 50% bigger also. I have to learn a bit more about the 172 to get the full potential out of it. Cheers for watching.
@IanWaugh3 ай бұрын
@@DisciplinedCommotion Yes, the original 100m modules came out before Eurorack and were bigger. They were also a very nice olive green which B hasn't managed to copy 😊 Be wary of getting the sequencer as I think they fudged the range control. Tim Shoebridge did a video about it, a while ago now
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
@@IanWaugh thanks for the heads up
@ilyandilymusic4 ай бұрын
Great vid! If you have not made one already I would love a little breakdown of all your modules. As someone who is always tempted to dip my toes into modular I would love to see what you built and more importantly the order in which you bought and built your rack.
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I got into modular because I wanted a new mono synth and couldn't decide on one, then I saw an advert for a Behringer System 15, and thought this looks interesting, didn't know how to use them really, but it comes with what you need to get started, so I bought one and love it. I posted an unboxing and fist try video, you may like to see. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3rWoKV3Z8ucY68
@ilyandilymusic3 ай бұрын
@@DisciplinedCommotion I like that plan of wanting a good mono synth and not knowing which one to get. I’m kinda in that boat too! Hmmmm
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
@@ilyandilymusic no regrets here :)
@ilyandilymusic3 ай бұрын
I did just pre-order the new Digitakt 2 from Elektron. Pretty excited for new gear!
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
@@ilyandilymusic woohoo, new gear :)
@donutschool3 ай бұрын
Yeah - phaser is great, the flanger is a bit subtle, I guess it is limited by how much delay you can get out of a "authentic vintage analogue" delay line c.f. newer digital delays. Feed it with white noise to really hear what it is doing, so it's probably good for drum sounds. A while ago I tried patching the delay into a feedback loop with a 100 VCA and that gave a somewhat more in-yer-face flanger/chorus effect. The LFO in the 172 is a bit weird (deliberately) - the output amplitude is pretty low and decreases as you increase the LFO rate, which does sound better with the phaser but might be confusing if yu try and use it as a separate LFO. Again, if you want in-your-face phasing/flanging, patch a regular LFO to the "modulation in" (works well with the delayed LFOs in the other Sys100 modules). Gate delay is roughly equivalent to the System 55 911A Trigger delay module (Sys55 seems to use "trigger" for everything - more widely 'trigger' tends to mean a very short pulse indicating the start of a sound, whereas a 'gate' signal stays on for the duration of the note). The 172 gate delay converts a gate CV - or any other signal - into a pulse with adjustable length and optional delay. With the double VCFs, VCAs and envelopes in the Sys 100 you could, e.g. do a stereo patch where the right-hand note triggers a fraction of a second after the left, or a mono patch where the VCF envelope lags behind the VCA envelope. Or just get a "double note" effect. The gate delay is handy for "pinging" envelopes and filters - set everything on the gate delay to zero, feed in your gate/trigger signal and take the output to the audio input of a VCF. Patch the frequency control of the VCF to the note pitch CV. Now crank up the VCF resonance ('Regeneration' for Sys55) to just below the point where it starts to howl. Now when you play a note you should get a "tuned percussion" sound. More fun - random triggers: instead of the gate signal, feed white/pink noise into the gate delay, set delay and length to zero, "threshold" to max and slowly turn it down until you get that authentic dusty vinyl LP sound... For anybody who has the Behringer System 100 modules, there's an old two-volume book called "Practical Synthesis for Electronic Music" freely downloadable from the internet (archive.org/details/synth_Practical_Synthesis_for_Electronic_Music_volume_1) which is largely about the Roland System 100m and is thus, effectively the "missing manual" for the Behringer System 100. Lots of patch examples that can be applied almost directly to the Sys100 modules.
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
wow, thank you for the in-depth info. The feedback loop sounds interesting, I am quite new to modular, how would I patch a feedback loop? Cheers Tim.
@donutschool3 ай бұрын
@@DisciplinedCommotion So, I tried reproducing my old feedback patch and it isn't making the effect any deeper for me, so maybe don't waste time with that one.
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
@@donutschool Ok cheers.
@Solarphonix2 ай бұрын
omg youve got an atari lol now that takes me back 🙂
@DisciplinedCommotion2 ай бұрын
Hi, I still use it if I want build a track up and record everything separately to my Tascam Portastudio. :)
@Solarphonix2 ай бұрын
awesome i was going to get this phase shifter b ut the reviews were odd lol
@SeQFreQ3694 ай бұрын
Hi Tim, check out a vid called "Behringer 172 Phase Shifter ~ awesome sounds & some background theory" it will answer all your questions.
@DisciplinedCommotion4 ай бұрын
Cool thanks, I will. Steve I have missed your jams, hope all is well?
@SeQFreQ3693 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim, all good, just been busy trying to get a multi-track recording set up happening while the weather has been hot n humid, cooler weather now, so hopefully more choons n jams soonish. @@DisciplinedCommotion
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
@@SeQFreQ369 🙂
@monodux3 ай бұрын
Cool module. Your case is almost full! What are you going to do?
@DisciplinedCommotion3 ай бұрын
Not sure, perhaps take out the 'fixed filter bank', only used it once. Do you have the 172?
@monodux3 ай бұрын
Yeah my fixed filter bank was the first thing to go for the same reason. I don’t have any of the system 100 modules. Some of those utilities look pretty great!