Behringer Announces SP1200 Clone | The Boom Bap Kingdom |

[@svetkolisica1635]

EA Ski is very knowledgeable with the converters, sounds etc.

[@jazzroom]

Its overrated- 90s converters were less pristine that's colored the sound that we all learned to love that much ;) I use most 90s and 80s gear ..so I know the difference . So basically to have a sampler that colors the sample on DAC ad/da converter one needs bad specs components ..so you get the " dirty" "crunchy" "warm" sample 😅 I use SP1200 , MPC3000 / MPC2000xl mpc1000 akai S950 ..I can hear difference in quality and "pristine " sound of MPC1000 compared to mpc3000 easy..but with a little EQ out if the High frequencies and slight boost of the lows inside MPC1000 u can't distinguish from MPC1000.. just my 2 cents . Peace 🥁

[@georgegeez8708]

I would buy it if Behringer goes forward with the SP1200. Thus far I have their RD-8, RD-9 and RD-6 along with quite a few of their synths and other products. They sound great. I'm buying their Lm Drum next. After that, their next drum machine clone to drop is the Oberheim clone of the DMX. If they ever clone an Akai, it will definitely be the MPC3000. I look forward to what they bring next. They are definitely shaking feathers in the hardware game.

[@obscuresoundz]

despite having an isla 2400; i would still get the behringer clone; i dont like the pads on the 2400, I wish they had the click buttons as per the sp1200, but hopefully they do an asr10 clone also

[@MixTapesGaloure]

WHATS NEXT THE MPC 60

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@MixTapesGaloure They should do an MPC3000 in my opinion! Honestly, Linn is dropping the ball. I could see a big market for an MPC3000 re- make J Dilla edition! You heard it here first!

[@nevedofficial466]

@@theboombapkingdom8628 personally feel like Linn's reasoning for not jumping on the whole reissue train are valid imo. With that being said... I would not trust Behringer with a 3k remake. And if they made it a J Dilla edition I wouldn't fuck with it unless a percentage of the profit went to Dilla's family. But i personally don't see Behringer being able to make a 3k that lives up to the og very cheaply... Akai honestly should do a J Dilla edition of the next mpc they drop imo.

[@Bilpokat]

@@theboombapkingdom8628bpc3000

[@Bilpokat]

@@nevedofficial466I do

[@michaels8597]

hopefully...

[@philtyrich1]

Behringer approached Lewis Parker about the SP1200 back in 2021 one of his homies works for them

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

Based on what I read Behringer actually started planning back in 2019. I'm pretty positive they have a concept in the works they just wanted to see the interest from the public and that's what they'll use to decide if they're gonna move forward. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@philtyrich1]

@ they were playing with the idea back in 2019 but never gave it real thought until they asked him and few other producers on their take it’s 2025 and they still haven’t put it out 🤷🏾‍♂️. So for now its just all talk until they send you one to review .

[@jazzroom]

​@@theboombapkingdom8628interesting. Guess they know that lofi 12bit trend is only getting bigger with the years so they are pulling the plug now by asking software ingeneers to contact them - guess they are busy reverse infeneer the SP1200 OS to adapt to their new sampler?

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Honesty I dont see how Behringer could put high enough quality components into a SP1200 clone for under $500. I think its possibly to make a device with the functions but not the sonics.

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@HOLLASOUNDS I'm curious as to how they will do it too. I know they have been looking into it since 2019 so they may have figured something out already. I'm not sure if they will lessen the price by using a plastic chassis instead of metal, cheaper knobs etc. time will tell.

[@snubdawg1386]

or you just be fooled by the high prices

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@theboombapkingdom8628 They can make a metal case and have all the functions of the SP1200 but have the insides of a culculater inside, no real converters or electronics. Maby they could make it from stock parts from pre existing stuff they make. Or this is just a marketing tool and there is no SP1200 coming.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@snubdawg1386 I heard what went into the development of the Rossom SP1200 and how much effort they went to capture as much of the original as they could and users say its sonically very much like The EMU original. Yoi think Behringer can do that for $500?

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@HOLLASOUNDS My guess is they already have a supplier that can make a copy the DAC for a very cheap price.

[@ciskid23]

I’m excited for it, I just need 5 min sample time. Sd card slot, be able to connect to pc to transfer files. Of any thing they’ve ever cloned this should have been done first. With that in mind exactly what kind of wait time we looking at?

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@ciskid23 Peace! Sounds like you have a few good ideas for the unit! I'm not sure when it's dropping as development is just starting. Hopefully it comes out before the end of the year. I definitely am interested in this one.

[@Toastfacekillah87]

They've been doing their research and can see the money. If the LinnDrum never got the attention of hip hop beatmakers, this sure will. NGL.... ill prob end up buying it 😂

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@Toastfacekillah87 They've been researching it since 2019. I'm sure they have a company that can manufacture the DAC for pennies on the dollar so they'll be ready. I'm looking forward to it!

[@JohnCulpry]

I’d love to see some high quality filters built in for the individual outs.

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@JohnCulpry Me too! Let's keep our fingers crossed!

[@mckrisbo]

The should hit up the Jazzcat and buy his design for the replacement SP1200 filters.

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@mckrisbo Sound Semiconductor made the original, the Rossum Re-issue, and the DAC in the S2400. I'm not sure who can and will make it for Behringer but my guess is it will be a company that can make it much cheaper.

[@mckrisbo]

@theboombapkingdom8628 people get too wrapped around the axle with component manufacturers. What matters is how they behave and how they are used in the circuit. The Model D and the RD-8 sound close enough to the originals to me. How many of the exact original components do you think they have? Also, I'm pretty sure if a dude in his garage (both Isla and Rossum) can get a custom chip made then Behringer should be fine to pull it off.

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@mckrisbo Personally I don't care who makes the DAC. Sonicware makes the Lofi-12XT for less than $500 and it sounds better than most of the samplers on the market if you are like me and like the 12 Bit sound. As long as it has the correct sonics and a few quality of life features I think they can pull it off and make it dope!

[@telephonerecordstv831]

Im not gonna lie...i kinda like behringer products...i have a few and have no complaints

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@telephonerecordstv831 Likewise. I have Behringer mixing boards that are over 10 years old and they still work. I had a Tascam Model 24 that barely lasted 2 years and failed completely. Thanks for watching and commenting. Be safe!

[@alex_darsen]

They didn’t say they were going to do it. They were only asking whether they should and sought suggestions.

[@mckrisbo]

They said on their FB group that the LM Drum has been their most successful products launch ever. The finally see the demand for vintage inspired samplers so, yeah, they're going to do it.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Up next: MPC 60 and Boss Sp303 😂

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 We can only wish!

[@ElanBrio]

I would like to see it

[@ElanBrio]

I would want basic fx

[@matthewgaines10]

While nice that they exist to bring older, more expensive products to the masses, it’s hard to be impressed with the business model. The only thing I own from them is a patch bay. It was affordable and capable.

[@michaels8597]

Let's deal with FACTS, because a lot of dummies will be getting all emotional one way or the other, like babies... 1) NO piece of gear gets to be the gatekeeper, and it has it's time, then it's absorbed. The Fender Strat is cloned tons of times, and even though I have a Strat, I will never CRY because they innovate them under another name. The next issue is, why do we need to pay $5000+ for a sampler which will never be different? It's not as if my ASR10 will transform into something else, and as time goes on, it might break down because it's OLD..duhhhhhhhh..Some of these samplers are so old there's a picture of the parting of the Red Sea, or the Flood inside it ,carved by Noah himself. 2) A clone is NOT a copy , because that's a felony, just Rolex has at least one model which has been cloned by 5 watchmakers. In this case, now you can get something CLOSE TO the SP 1200, without the speed limits, storage limits, and possibly with full MIDI/USB, and some tweaks.I love innovation like I love sampleheads who do MORE than rip records to make tracks, like Herbert did, to make sounds for a whole LP with NO ripped samples....3) Perhaps someone knows as fact, yet I would think that quality components of better quality are less expensive and more readily available then in 1244BC, when you had to build a forge, have some guy shovel coal, will the blacksmith fashioned the parts./tools. I hope they make it... The only folks who still care about 1766BC quality are those still crying in their caskets until they come outside at night..

[@DJ_PROMO_PR]

Kudos for Behringer. Keep them coming. Brand purists will always be against companies like Behringer, Isla Instruments, etc. Also, "big name" brands are just salty because Behringer offers quality gear at cheaper prices. Lotta gear youtubers out there (not this channel) are hired to bring Behringer down. They won't even dare to show a Behringer product on their channel. 🤷‍♂

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@DJ_PROMO_PR Peace! Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree with you. Back in the day Mackie used to have a bad reputation as being cheap as well. Companies like Behringer, Mackie, Sonicware have found a way to balance price with quality while others may offer higher quality I think they put profit first.

[@sonertv]

12 Bit /22.1Khz to be correct.

[@theboombapkingdom8628]

@@sonertv The SP1200 was actually 12 Bit at 26.1 Khz. We just say 24 Khz because typically 12 bit is associated with 24 Khz. Emu used the SSM2044 and AD7541A DAC. That's where the artifacts and transient classic sound comes from. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@MrStoof91]

Too much..

[@jayc9184]

I'm not interested.