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Behringer MS5 // Initial Impressions and Review

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Starsky Carr

Starsky Carr

Күн бұрын

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@Only_Facts_24
@Only_Facts_24 Ай бұрын
i might be absolutely crazy here, I own about 8 synts, Rev2 ,Ub-xa, Grandmother, Juno 106, Ms20, Minifreak and minilogue, Moog minitaur. Ive come to the conclusion that they all sound the same...and you can do exactly the same crap on all of em. Some have a brighter tone that others but its nothing u cant fix with some eq.Hell even Mike dean has a room full of synths and every single jam sounds the exact same. I kinda feel dumb now knowing that i can pretty much make any sound on the rev2..The rest is like extra toys. I use to chase every new synth on the market but now I just cant buy anything no matter how much bells and whistles it has. This is just my personal opinion btu im curious to know if someone else also feels this way.
@derkernspalter
@derkernspalter Ай бұрын
You're not alone.
@Riistube
@Riistube Ай бұрын
@@Only_Facts_24 100%. The crossover is so real but I will say that in my experience personally, I’ve noticed a bigger gap on the higher end synths. I got the Gemini, prophet 10 and the 3rd wave and the differences there start to become so huge that I’m making sweeping decisions on songs and avoiding certain synths. Also, a friend has the rev 2 and while it sounds great, it just is missing the final 10% in my personal opinion. The prophet sits in a mix unlike anything else.
@WtfYoutube_YouSuck
@WtfYoutube_YouSuck Ай бұрын
Yeah....one flagship analog poly and VSTs and you're g2g.
@tommm4989
@tommm4989 Ай бұрын
In my experience the real difference is whether a synth mixes well or not. My minifreak and my minitaur always sound peeerfect in a mix; they just sit where they're supposed to and lift everything else in the arrangement up. I owned a matrixbrute as well, which was a synthesist's dream, but it always sounded a little obnoxious. I also absolutely loved my digitone, but found that it struggled to play well with others as well.
@derkernspalter
@derkernspalter Ай бұрын
Take Martin Gore for example. He's a collector of old analoge synths. He has his whole basement full and he stated there was a time when the delivery man brought in a new synth every other day. And then i listen to the music and the analoge blips and chirps and whatnot just sound the same as they did on the previous 5-6 albums. Next example would be Vince Clarke from Erasure. I brought both up not because i don't like their output, quite the opposite but i know both own some of the largest synth collections.
@johnsaunders6510
@johnsaunders6510 Ай бұрын
So glad that Behringer are producing these wonderful classics and prices that mere mortals can afford. Wonderful stuff. Thanks Startsky for the quick overview. Hope you enjoy the match.
@DisciplinedCommotion
@DisciplinedCommotion Ай бұрын
yeah, well said :)
@roseutterback5755
@roseutterback5755 Ай бұрын
I love it the immediate effect of making a dope bass it’s soooooo slick
@plane_guy6051
@plane_guy6051 Ай бұрын
Also, they have MIDI, so I personally wouldn't even want an 'original' because I would be mainly using it with MIDI in a studio
@FreeThink1984
@FreeThink1984 21 күн бұрын
Very based indeed all hail uli
@PCoyte
@PCoyte Ай бұрын
Lovely - looking forward to the comparison with the original!
@hazybrain7
@hazybrain7 Ай бұрын
Me too ! Starsky Rocks
@mikescherer3892
@mikescherer3892 Ай бұрын
I have an original SH5. The Behringer seems to behave exactly like mine. I thought my AR on mine was messed up, but apparently it's a feature not a defect since Behringer copied it.
@NormAnonim
@NormAnonim Ай бұрын
I was also puzzled with Pan. And was surprised by Hold knob at the beginning. Three remarks from me: 1) Watch out for headphone output! At 1/10 it's already too loud for my (250 ohm) headphones. 2) The Hold knob is VCA bias. It's kind of drone knob. 3) I was also asking at forums "why Pan for mono-mono synth?" (like mono voice that in not even stereo). Someone suggested good idea that I am yet to check out. I will route one channel to BBD and route it back to ext in. Or anything else, really. The key is to turn Pan knob into Mix knob. ;] When I bought mine, I was all after that SH-5 filter and I found myself grabbed by the VCOs sound for few hours. Only then I got into that creamy filter. And since filters run parallel, adding fundamental with dedicated bandpass can shatter windows, if sound system provides such power, because this synth surely does. Cordially, Norman
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Cool nice tips. I’ll have to have a play with the filters. Sounds like the MS20 trick of turning reso up on the HP for earth shattering basses.
@asynchronicity
@asynchronicity Ай бұрын
Better looking than a lot of Behringer stuff
@endoflevelboss
@endoflevelboss Ай бұрын
Not seen much Behringer stuff then have you 🙄
@asynchronicity
@asynchronicity Ай бұрын
@@endoflevelboss Definitely have. Why?
@dyscotopia
@dyscotopia Ай бұрын
​@@asynchronicityit's generally very well built and aesthetically pleasing. At least the three products I have (model d, deepmind 12, and neutron)
@TJ-rf1xl
@TJ-rf1xl Ай бұрын
This is their next big clone drop on my wishlist. Availability of everything Behringer in Canada is always sketchy, so it may be quite a while before I actually get my hands on one though.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 Ай бұрын
Been eyeing up a 3 tier rack for this, my Poly-D and a Monopoly. Would look soooooo good together! Love how Behringer have been sticking to certain designs for certain synths. When you make synths affordable enough to have a lot of them, how they all look and fit together matters 😊
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 19 күн бұрын
Now that's a plan, with a B2600 on the side. !! I think Behringer should stick to this design as the main option , would rather see a POLY D type POLYVOX than a piss ant Model D or POXY D.. lol
@robert-wr6md
@robert-wr6md Ай бұрын
Yes if I was Andertons I'd send my first one to Starsky Carr too. Gonna get a better review than Jack could muster up. Bless his cotton socks. 💗
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Nah…. They don’t know it’s me 😂
@xray2785
@xray2785 Ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarrthey will now
@derkernspalter
@derkernspalter Ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Now they know. 😉
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 Ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarr- some say that your real name is actually Hutch. And that you drive a red Ford Capri with a white stripe. 😉
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Ай бұрын
​@@leftmono1016 round my area of North London it was Cortina mk2s doing the "striped tomato" look - the local custom Capris were usually more original and tastefully done. What annoyed me with the local Cortinas was e.v.e.r.y s.i.n.g.l.e o.n.e had the stripe painted wrong! 😱 Oh to be back in 1979! 😎
@marsmediapro
@marsmediapro Ай бұрын
It looks and sounds great! It sounds somewhat like my Sh3a. Thanks for sharing, and looking forward to whatever else you do with it!
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 Ай бұрын
This synth looks sooo wonderful. I could watch it all day
@harrymartin684
@harrymartin684 Ай бұрын
This is one I've been waiting for!
@Roboami
@Roboami Ай бұрын
For "Weak" sync, you have to set VCO1 to a higher pitch than VCO2! Extreme settings tend to give better results.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Thanks. I’ll have to have a play. I never realised week sync was the other way round with the tuning. Always learning!
@digitaldiezel5870
@digitaldiezel5870 Ай бұрын
Very excited to hear this!
@drrespite5115
@drrespite5115 Ай бұрын
On my MS-5 the way around the AR level drop is to patch the gate output back into the external trigger input then select ext as the trigger source for the AR. No major drop in level although the attack is still slower than the ADSR attack. I'm guessing that is just a trait carried over from the original. Hope someone else finds this useful!
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Nice one, very useful thanks and pinned
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 Ай бұрын
@drrespite5115 could this MS5 problem be possibly fixed with a firmware update ? Cheers
@vwolmusic
@vwolmusic 23 күн бұрын
Mine arrived yesterday and its really great! Fantastic range of sounds - the option of having the different sounds (VCO, VCO, Ring Mod) routed through each filter - or direct to VCA realy gives it a unique sound to me. -One thing that I would like to change through is having the option to have one or both of the LFO's to be free running - You cant currently get that slow filter modulation on shorter notes :(
@RJJNY
@RJJNY 8 күн бұрын
Tip from hardwarejammers found on the modwiggler forum: instead of sequencing via the gate input, use the external trigger input and set the ADSR trig to EXT, that way the LFOs are free running. The gate input can be used to retrigger them.
@vwolmusic
@vwolmusic 7 күн бұрын
@@RJJNY Thanks I'll give that a try.
@RJJNY
@RJJNY 7 күн бұрын
@@vwolmusic there's also a video on here of Mathew Jonson demonstrating an SH-5 where he uses the technique all the way through, but doesn't explain how it works until the end. In some ways it's better than being able to switch the LFOs between free running or retriggered, because the gate input can be used to create more predictable rhythmic effects. E.g. even with just a Korg SQ-1 you can use the gate output on one of the channels to trigger the LFOs once every bar while running a sequence on the other channel. Opens up a lot of possibilities, and I guess might actually have been intentional from Roland.
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik Ай бұрын
yep I'm waiting on this one to be in stock in Australia..
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Ай бұрын
I bet Uli will be over the moon with your support.
@StaunchOfficial
@StaunchOfficial Ай бұрын
I'm in Aus and got mine about 6 weeks ago. Just pre ordered it through store dj, took about 2 months to arrive :)
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Ай бұрын
@@StaunchOfficial condolences.
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik Ай бұрын
@@StaunchOfficial you must be an influencer then because its not available in any Australian stores yet I've called and they all said the same, waiting for stock.
@StaunchOfficial
@StaunchOfficial Ай бұрын
@@fiddlestickzmuzik All I did was order it through the store dj website when Behringer announced it was shipping. Maybe the first batch to arrive in Aus were all pre orders so none made it into stores, i'm not sure. I've noticed it no longer says 'pre order' on the website now, it's changed to 'back order'. Might be worth a shot if you're happy to wait a bit?
@caryheuchert
@caryheuchert Ай бұрын
I used to own an original Roland SH-5 from 1992 to 2005. A real solid machine. Bought it for only $75 CAD and sold it for $1,200 CAD. Nice to see this Behringer version.
@SjoerdDekker
@SjoerdDekker Ай бұрын
@@caryheuchert I had mine when the Korg Poly 800 came out, traded it with closed purses. I wanted that poly so bad… the older i get the more the fool i feel. 🤣
@gainofdysfunction4135
@gainofdysfunction4135 24 күн бұрын
@@SjoerdDekker Without going into detail (cry cry) you're not the only one who's let of of great gear and lived to regret it. I know how it feels. FWIW Be glad for that you kept!
@SjoerdDekker
@SjoerdDekker 17 күн бұрын
@@gainofdysfunction4135 Enjoying my latest purchase the Yamaha MODX+7 Kept a lot of gear, hardly use it. 🙊
@pablowentscobar
@pablowentscobar Ай бұрын
Very nice a little Sunday morning Starsky before I hit the gym. Yes please and thank you. Good stuff fren.
@endoflevelboss
@endoflevelboss Ай бұрын
Humble brag: Check me out I go to the gym 🎉
@user-oxoxo8888
@user-oxoxo8888 Ай бұрын
On 2:47 You have recreated sound effect of Italian's submarine sonar in Polish "How I Unleashed World War II 1970 ‧ Comedy/War movie" 🤣🤣
@Kung_Fu_Jesus
@Kung_Fu_Jesus Ай бұрын
Sounds stunning
@electricwheelchair
@electricwheelchair Ай бұрын
2:45 That's the UFO in the original Space Invaders!
@Mark-ec3lp
@Mark-ec3lp Ай бұрын
That sounds really nice, can't wait for you to compare it A/B against the original, nice demo as always.
@user-qf4zs6qj4c
@user-qf4zs6qj4c Ай бұрын
Hold is the same as the Odyssey's VCA gain - useful for drones and holding the VCA open for processing external signals.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Good point!
@alexbowers6026
@alexbowers6026 Ай бұрын
Nice overview, thnx Starsky - hope you'll do an in-depth this-is-the-weird-stuff-it-can-do vid later . It's got that rubbery Roland character but with so much more attitude than the boring Junos etc. I'll pass over that Neptune thingy but MS5 is an instabuy for me when it finally reaches NZ. I love the look of it too - hope they do more fliptoppery. This is going right next to my Monopoly. I want a room full of fliptops and pretend I'm on the USS Enterprise (sad, I know...)
@honeymojave
@honeymojave Ай бұрын
Better looking than most behringer synths
@hafstrat
@hafstrat Ай бұрын
Synth is coming home …. 😎💚🌞
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Ай бұрын
I love the built in fx send and return in the control section... AND there is the external input..😊
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Ай бұрын
Nice sounding and handsome synth. Not sure I've got room for it unfortunately, so I'll have to keep an eye out for your deeper dives.
@philtobin9510
@philtobin9510 Ай бұрын
This sounds really nice...Really Orbital sounding in places. £510...rude not to if you have space for it. It will be nice to hear a comparison.
@dyscotopia
@dyscotopia Ай бұрын
It's interesting how many comments are about great it looks, and I don't disagree, but it does suggest that the synth, while having a lovely character, doesn't do much other synths don't. Seems like one for the collector's if you don't already have an analog mono
@amsynths
@amsynths Ай бұрын
The “gate” symbol in the VCA is a third fixed AR envelope generator, not a gate signal. Its a hang over from earlier SH synths. Hold is just a VCA gain control. Panning is on the original and is not very useful😢. I did some of the initial work on the MS-5 until covid arrived…good to see it released.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Thanks… I suspected as much. It’s easier to have a straight up gate than have an envelope on it!
@boxodrive
@boxodrive Ай бұрын
Looking forward to some musical examples. I think my poly d is as good as gone between this and the model 15.
@joostvoorspaamm9304
@joostvoorspaamm9304 22 күн бұрын
gaps between the keys make even Ford go "damn, you can get away with that?"
@alejandrohualdez5550
@alejandrohualdez5550 Ай бұрын
Ordered. Arriving on Wednesday.
@djkanyon
@djkanyon 29 күн бұрын
Note to Roland: it seems like Behringer successfully chasing ghosts.
@JonMurray
@JonMurray Күн бұрын
Only just getting to this one, sounds really nice man! Have you got any further into or found out about the output volume thing? It seemed a bit all over the place. You could slaughter a live performance switching around between the options haha! Bit disappointing about the QC as well. I thought they were past that these days. Some mega sounds though and would be great to hear it side by side with an original!
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Күн бұрын
It seems the volume change is like the original, as are the envelopes. It can do some thunderous bass tones using the second filter resonance etc. it’s a cool thing to explore. I’m still planning on getting my hands on the original.
@monodux
@monodux 26 күн бұрын
There are still very few videos on this synth! Thanks for this one. If you revisit and happen to have a roland sh-01a, I'd love to see how the two play together.
@jay4d3v4
@jay4d3v4 Ай бұрын
i don't know the history but with the Odyssey in 72 and this in 75, when comparing the features it really does seem like a Roland Odyssey doesn't it
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Probably cheaper than the Oddy. No idea though.
@BarryThePenguin
@BarryThePenguin Ай бұрын
I was gonna get a odyssey, but might get this guy now for my first physical analog synth.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
I prefer the Oddy tbh. But then I have a fondness for it - I e got an original and the small Korg remake
@BarryThePenguin
@BarryThePenguin Ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarr yeah
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Ай бұрын
I have the money, but no more room. Pity Behringer can't sell the various bits as Euro-rack modules... who knows maybe they're working on it!
@RichardOlpin
@RichardOlpin Ай бұрын
Mine arrived this morning, looking forward to getting stuck in later ;-)
@adrianbrown471
@adrianbrown471 Ай бұрын
Ive got one on pre-order too, so hopefully it will be with me soon!
@peaterrepeater4441
@peaterrepeater4441 Ай бұрын
Being able to modulate the bandpass would have been a great addition, always missed thi on the original.
@DawlessHouseMusic
@DawlessHouseMusic Ай бұрын
I need a sound demo video today!!
@KarlAdamsAudio
@KarlAdamsAudio Ай бұрын
I owned an original back in the 1980s when big 70s monosynths were deeply unfashionable - and cheap. The original has a sort of integrated road case with the angled removable lid & lots of Tolex - alas you don't get that with the Behringer.
@vincentbuckle3807
@vincentbuckle3807 23 күн бұрын
Great review and run through as usual. What Oscilloscope plugin are you running alongside logic EQ?
@simonirvine2174
@simonirvine2174 27 күн бұрын
The volume drop is something I have noticed with behringer especially over Midi I own a Deepmind 12 and using a kenton midi interface to control the Behringer JT-4000 I get tiny bits of dropout which I originally put down to touch sensitivity on the DM 12 but when I switched the midi control to another touch sensitive source it was no longer an issue. Hope this helps
@Thusila234
@Thusila234 Ай бұрын
Awesome. My next synth purchase. Together with the model 15 when it comes out. No space for it left. But ill just unplug and replace my synths from now whenever i wanna use another one =p
@krusestephan4009
@krusestephan4009 27 күн бұрын
I have a Novation Summit that does all this and a thousand times more. Sold all my other synths since they basically sound all more or less the same especially in the mix after treatment. Can't really understand all this hype. Get yourself a Summit and do it all with one great sounding unit.
@pizzagogo6151
@pizzagogo6151 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the run through Starsky, Although I have no interest in another mono synth, especially without presets....but I don’t think I’ve ever been so tempted to own one, just because of how a synth looks😮....it just looks “ proper”......damn you behringer😅
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Who needs presets 😂👍 where’s the fun in instantly being able to recall a tone during a gig🤔😂
@AndyDufresne86
@AndyDufresne86 Ай бұрын
As a owner of the sh-5 i waited u show the BPF with resonance trough oscillators in detail as the seperate BPF was THE absolute strength of this synth. Sadly u didnt...
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
It was a quick run through 🤷‍♂️
@theedxqboi
@theedxqboi Ай бұрын
About time.
@modulosonoro
@modulosonoro 25 күн бұрын
Sounds good, but not a lot like my SH-5. Maybe they just tweaked the System 100M oscillators and thought time for the pub? Loved the Voodoo Ray riff ... heya uh hah ooooo 🙂
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Ай бұрын
I think this is a good sounding synth, I don't think it sounds as authentic as some of the other Behringer minis such as the Pro1 (bang on) the Model D and Kobol (ditto). Okay, I never had a SH-5, but I did have a full System 100 (the 1975 version), which is very similar. Okay, the SH -5 oscillators have that weird organ thing going on, but they still sound pretty similar to the 100. The filters on the 100 and SH-5 were pretty much identical, except the SH-5 had a bandpass mode in addition to low pass. Nonetheless I still think the originals were overrated, I remember the system 100 filter sounded great when screaming (it has a aggressive, dirty, overdriven sound), but it wasn't so great for making patches, I remember it made the oscillators sound very thin and with no bass. The oscillators were a bit meh too, although the PWM was pretty nice.
@user-fe8zd5of8y
@user-fe8zd5of8y Ай бұрын
Great look. I chased one for years back a long time ago; never acquired one. I think it was the SH-7 I chased. Anyway, as Pres. Biden would say. The envelope follower, useful for those wanting to produce OLD SPICE commercials (the whistle thing). Maybe I'm getting old (in my mind, I mean), but I'm left wondering: Does it make any LOVELY sounds? TO NOTE: starting at 13:15, then the reverb add and, yeah...that sounds really nice! And the SAW sounds great, too.
@bobbyx5373
@bobbyx5373 Ай бұрын
The OG does have hold and pan controls.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
That makes more sense. They seems like pretty random additions. 👍
@theJon5
@theJon5 Ай бұрын
​@StarskyCarr I have a theory on the dings on your unit . It seems Andertons stock was originally destined for the EU as the power adapter was a 2 pin. Andertons opened each box and threw in the 3 pin swappable plate. Luckily mine didnt get dinged as it bounced around. You may have not been so lucky
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Stacks up.. minor odd dings.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Ай бұрын
Would love to see a video making patches on this and making the same on the MS-1 and talking about the sound difference.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Haven’t got the Ms1 but have an SH101
@AppleKid
@AppleKid Ай бұрын
It was cool and nice looking video. I would like to see you or someone jamming with it though.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Defo… making tracks takes time so watch this space.
@user-fg8rp9ep1h
@user-fg8rp9ep1h Ай бұрын
Hi Starsky, there are L&R outputs on the OG. And it does have a panning knob.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Thanks.
@Shred_The_Weapon
@Shred_The_Weapon Ай бұрын
I don’t mind saying that I wondered where Uli Behringer took the MS-5 name from. I didn’t think it had to do with Roland. If anything, I thought it had to do with Cheetah, as in the MS6 (despite it clearly being an SH-5 emulation). Ever get your hands on one of those modules, Starsky?
@lukeskywalker2656
@lukeskywalker2656 Ай бұрын
THX ✌ Hope the make a MS-7 with stereo out..... Behringer 🙌
@RulgertGhostalker
@RulgertGhostalker Ай бұрын
yeah, yeah it is....that's a nice one there. confusing, Korg like name on a Roland clone.
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines Ай бұрын
I know they're not expensive but would metal pots really cost that much more? Might as make the quality and finish a little better if it doesn't cost that much more to build. I'm most interested in a mega behringer comparison - it's so hard to choose which ones to get without just having too much of the same, or a very similar thing.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
There’s not many that are. I think my sub 37, grandmother, prophet 6, OB 6 and all the 60Hp Moog units are all plastic. I think maybe the prophet 10, OBX8 are metal as are the retroaktiv controllers. But only the premium stuff. These are definitely aimed at a price point .
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Ай бұрын
I've got gear with plastic pots getting on 40 years old with no problems. My monosynth never had a flight case when I was gigging it - it just bounced around in the back of the car.
@irtnyc
@irtnyc Ай бұрын
I feel like Behringer is leaving about $100 per unit on the table not allowing their customers to customize colors of the faceplates and knobs etc. It would be so easy for them.
@bigredracingteam9642
@bigredracingteam9642 Ай бұрын
The synced sound you tried recreating is from Breakwater's 'Release the Beast,' not Daft Punk.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Yeah I know… most know it as Robot Rock though.
@bigredracingteam9642
@bigredracingteam9642 Ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Fair enough (but also a damn shame, if you ask me.)
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Ай бұрын
​@@bigredracingteam9642 thanks for pointing it out. I'd not heard of them so I'm enjoying catching up on their other songs.
@ArgumentShow
@ArgumentShow Ай бұрын
in my top ten. no desktop space so i hope a 19"rack coming
@hooch8395
@hooch8395 Ай бұрын
this is really good 👍
@roseutterback5755
@roseutterback5755 Ай бұрын
I will buy this
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 Ай бұрын
Hopefully the pan control is linked to MIDI panning, ULI might have thrown us an extra tastey MIDI bone ? 😜
@lesterfalcon1350
@lesterfalcon1350 Ай бұрын
I wish they had only put the mod wheels only text to the keybed. I took the synth section off the keyboard for the MonoPoly and converted to a desktop. Seems such an awesome synth, but the whole unit is too big a cumbersome for my set up.
@JayKaufman
@JayKaufman Ай бұрын
Starsky, is 'twenty killaher' the term for when Scouse birds have a hard night out down the pub drinking cheap gin? Hehe. ;)
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Haha… that’s gates for you!
@irtnyc
@irtnyc Ай бұрын
I have been disappointed in the pots (not knobs) of my Behringer RD-8s. I have many. All of them have some wiggley loose potentiometers. Which means they're flexing off the board. Not good. Separately some becomr MUCH easier to turn than others. That's also not good.
@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois Ай бұрын
Hey my VC340 is broken what can I say. 👎🏼
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Ай бұрын
Not having any issues with my RD-8, I've had mine for 3 years now
@Vim-Wolf
@Vim-Wolf Ай бұрын
Cute, but still waiting on the VCS3 clone 😁Might get a Proton if it comes out in the meantime to sit next to my Neutron.
@SjoerdDekker
@SjoerdDekker Ай бұрын
But playing live your not at your mixing desc, control of your pink noise waves rolling left to right over the (stereo) stage monitors. Great review, tumbs up. Had my SH 5 in early eighties.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Yeah that’s why I thought it was odd there was no modulation options. But I guess every good idea could be improved, and every improvement costs.
@hillblocksview
@hillblocksview Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review and 1st impression, is there no arp on this synth? or is that what the sample and hold is for? 🤔
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
No, no arp or seq.
@thedoc1210
@thedoc1210 Ай бұрын
sounds nice
@AutisticCuriosity
@AutisticCuriosity Ай бұрын
I got a Matriarch a couple of years ago and before that a deepmind 12 honestly ruined my interest in synths. They all feel a bit underwhelming and boring. What I have does absolutely everything I could possibly imagine. A few effect pedals and I’m away…anything else they’d just be an expensive distraction
@dat_chip
@dat_chip Ай бұрын
Great sounding device! But a few things worry me: 1) The pulsewidth doesn't go all the way up to 100% (silence) which can be useful for special effects. 2) The level drop when using AR for amp. 3) When using AR, i would expect the two attack/release faders to set the timing, and you have them at zero, so I think it should be instantly on and off - exactly as you commented on. This seems like a serious defect to me. I'll ask my friend if his original SH-5 does that, but I'm pretty sure the SH-5's AR can be instant. But I love that it doesn't seem to lose amplitude when you turn up the resonance.
@StopTryingSoHard
@StopTryingSoHard Ай бұрын
I cannot speak to the MS-5 at all but I've seen some rather hefty differences from one SH-5 to another. Have a similar thing with my two 303s actually. I serviced one because it wouldn't sound like the one I thought was "better", but it sounded the same. So I serviced the "better" unit and then it sounded like other. RIP better tone. :D
@ashave9100
@ashave9100 Ай бұрын
Hi- thanks for the video- can I ask you a question?, when will you take the back off ,so we can have a look inside !!. Thanks again
@maval4537
@maval4537 Ай бұрын
Behringer and other brands that bring clones of old classics onto the market are now in the process of significantly reducing demand and thus also the resale value of old analogue icons. I am absolutely sure that in the future the prices of most such synths will decrease, with a few exceptions. The willingness to spend horrendous sums of money on such instruments is massively diminished if there is the possibility of purchasing the same sound for a tenth. Only a few high earners and die-hard collectors will continue to buy originals. A small example: in my country two or three years ago, a Solina String Ensemble was only offered once a year at most, and the normal retail price was around €2000. Since Behringer's compact version exists, 4-5 people are suddenly selling an original every month for an average price of €1200!
@juno6
@juno6 Ай бұрын
Beautiful sounding synth. Maybe lacking bass? I´ll wait for the next video that probably will be sounds... Great review btw!
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Ай бұрын
OG unit sounds much thicker and goes lower.
@juno6
@juno6 Ай бұрын
@@dankeplace I have an SH-1, SH-2, System 100 101, Gilbert (SH-09 clone)... And I have the impression that the SH-5 should sound way fatter that what I hear on the MS5...
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Ай бұрын
@@juno6 I've heard the OG unit, never owned one and it does get furtehr down from the demos I have heard. Aging of the gear would make it sound far different too.
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 Ай бұрын
Holding out for the JU2. When that comes out I will be on that like stink on shit.
@badinibeats5939
@badinibeats5939 Ай бұрын
it really looks cool would just have it in the studio for good vibes ahah
@lesterfalcon1350
@lesterfalcon1350 Ай бұрын
I doubt it will be available in 19". It's the same format as the Poly-D, and Mono/Poly. And neither of those came out in 19". I have the Mono/Poly, and I removed the synth section form the Chassis and Keybed. The fold up section unscrews, and unplugs. You can do the same with the MS5, but you will loose the controls next to the Key bed.The thing is a beast at over 10Kgs, it's about less than half that and and a 3rd of the size, when split.
@FreeThink1984
@FreeThink1984 21 күн бұрын
Heckin based!!!
@theJon5
@theJon5 Ай бұрын
Had a few minutes only with mine yesterday with headphones and the VCA knob does nothing. Im assuming its really main out rather than true VCA aa headphones has its own level slider
@user-fi4yd2kf6g
@user-fi4yd2kf6g Ай бұрын
This music in the background kind of reminds me of the beginning of Singularity by Bodzin...
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Yeah the little arp. It’s something I made using the P800 for the review/demo. You can hear the full thing here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKHLga2Vrpt2Z8ksi=J03fFn5e9WmoNxmc
@rexterrocks
@rexterrocks Ай бұрын
I have the System 100m and I'm wondering if it's worth getting this as well?
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Ай бұрын
There's no information about midi assignments in the get started. Anyone found out ? I guess its channel omni notes only?
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 5 күн бұрын
Who the heck are Eat Static and Freddy Fresh? They are notable SH-5 players, apparently … ?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Күн бұрын
Ranked as one of the world's best DJs by DJMAG UK, DJ Freddy Fresh has performed in more than 35 countries… according to Google! And a pizza shop in Freiburg 😂
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 Күн бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Why do I get the feeling he was paid in pizza for that gig, too … 😉
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 Ай бұрын
Just checked and my original SH5 manual does have the same slight ramp on the GATE envelope. Any chance of an MS5 vs MONOPOLY review ?. ✌️
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Thanks that’s good to know. I suspected as much, otherwise it would be a weird error! Possibly I’ll put them together.
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 Ай бұрын
​@@StarskyCarrprobably heaps of people wondering which to buy first Poly D , Monopoly or MS5 , the B2600 was in that group of mine as well but obviously doesn't have a keyboard.. Peace m8.
@qidevrich
@qidevrich Ай бұрын
If you had £500 to spend…this or a Behringer 2600? I’m leaning towards the 2600.
@DisciplinedCommotion
@DisciplinedCommotion Ай бұрын
want one, no room at the moment though :)
@SectorSevenSlumz
@SectorSevenSlumz Ай бұрын
Wish they'd do the fs1r
@georgehall6051
@georgehall6051 Ай бұрын
A lot of similar features to the Odyssey. Apart from pitchbend 'wheel' and flexible BPF what can this synth do that the Odyssey can't????
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын
Off the top of my head… the delayed LFO and external triggers in the envelopes plus it has external for the ring mod so is effectively a ring mod ‘pedal’ as well. But they’re pretty similar
@Umtree
@Umtree Ай бұрын
I was such a synth nerd in late 90’s. I had all the classic analogs. 😢 Now……. Nothing. And I’m broke.
@RealityShiftUK
@RealityShiftUK Ай бұрын
Hmm does sound a lot like an ms 20
@jdrukman
@jdrukman Ай бұрын
yeah I was definitely thinking that
@atommachine
@atommachine Ай бұрын
Yes
@andrewverran6998
@andrewverran6998 Ай бұрын
Yep , I got MS5 a few weeks ago after selling my SH5 in the 1994, definately HASNT the RASPY bite of the SH5 , definitely has a very similar sound to my K2 (MS20 ) .you are spot on. In heinsight I wish I had not waited and just bought the MonoPoly.
@DJfreddyfresh
@DJfreddyfresh Ай бұрын
sold my orig. to autokinetic for $350 and need it back
@Bloodysambre
@Bloodysambre Ай бұрын
Ouch !!! What's that beast...
@BarbieChaite
@BarbieChaite Ай бұрын
still not available 😢
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