Behringer Poly D Vs The Model D Synthesizer - Clash of The Low Cost Titans!

[@AndertonsKeyboardDept]

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[@pcuimac]

Your honesty is so refreshing. "I sound like a cheap car salesmen now." lol

[@drewwhite6865]

I remember when hi-end people used to tell me to stay at least 2m away from anything labelled Behringer. Now they all own them :D

[@davidarmstrong1666]

I have an Arturia Keylab MKII, is it worth just getting the Model D and running it through that or worth shelling out the additional for the Poly D? I have the space in the studio for the Poly D but in your honest opinion is it worth the extra bucks for the Poly D..?

[@KibweBrathwaite]

"Intellectual property means nothing but price and features do" LOL

[@Xul]

Not really a big fan of Behringer but Moog brought this on themselves with ripping off the fans of their OG synths and relying on their name and previous success. Or look at it like this: if you manage to look like the bad guy even against Behringer you really have lost touch to reality as a company ;)

[@Donetur]

Let’s put it in this way: today more than one company sells OLED technology. They all use similar components. Do all invented all of that from the scratch?. In any case I prefer seeing instruments accessible for all artists instead of having the access limited to those who can afford it only, several of them just collectors with a snobbish attitude, but I am more on the side of the promotion and spreading of music and artistic expressions than keeping this historical elitism ;)

[@georgeray3492]

Finally- a good explanation of the Auto Damp switch. Good demo of the chorus as well. Jack continues to offer the best keys demos on YT.

[@AndertonsKeyboardDept]

Very kind words! Glad you're enjoying our content... Loads more on the way!

[@Azarable]

@@AndertonsKeyboardDept I am considering getting a Behringer Poly D and the Model D. I was going to get an original Minimoog Model D from the 1970's or the reissue from 2016 but they are too expensive. I looked on eBay, and Reverb and those things cost like $4,000 or $8,000 dollars. I can't afford it so I would rather go with Behringer even though they may not be the same thing because it is cheaper.

[@NigelMarston]

Well, 3 years on and I just bought a Poly D from Andertons for well under £500. Such a great deal and I have finally scratched that Moog itch I've had for over 40 years. I love it and I haven't stopped playing it for the last few days.

[@galastar257]

Poly D with user preset capability and proper effects would be killer

[@ronnie_astro]

That’s Deepmind territory.

[@OriamB]

You’re asking for a Moog Voyager clone version

[@norjects7495]

Love my Model D, sounds incredible. Because I don't want to make it obsolete in my setup, and wonder if the Poly really sounds as good, I'm leaning toward the Monopoly instead of the Poly D.

[@seoulbeatscene]

"The Behringer Poly D has a volume issue, and I'm honestly curious about what you think about using it. Could you please share your thoughts?"

[@williamshaneblyth]

Near impossible to get an analog to sound the same as another as no digital control and each time your knobs will be a fraction different in your setup

[@georgewarner7210]

“This is for the G’s…and this is for the hustles…” Nice touch and great info!

[@mikaeljohansson83]

Always happy to see Jack doing a demo of some sort. He always makes me smile:) You're the man Jack! The same goes for The Captain! Love both the keyboard and the guitar channel. And The Captain has become a great guitarist:)

[@chrisbran6739]

A brilliant demo Mate !

[@prodbyjxff5724]

I wonder if they could update the distortion section and turn the "level" knob into a dry\wet knob. I feel like it could be done from firmware

[@ageshero]

I’m waiting on poly d2(doesn’t exist yet) but program memory and effects, oof, would be lovely

[@Asmuk]

"... where intellectual property means nothing but price and features do" best intro ever.

[@somedood6621]

Loved this, deffo getting the poly D

[@geoffk777]

At these prices, it's worth buying both of them (which I did). But the Poly-D is worth the extra money. The stereo chorus sounds amazing, and the extra space on the panel makes it much easier to play with live and tweak. Plus there's the paraphony/polyphony, the sequencer, the keyboard, the stereo outputs, etc. All in all, it's just a better keyboard. In fact, it's even better than a real Minimoog.

[@Gainn]

@@elijahbeeler1101 some places had them in March. There's a few UK shops that have them in stock now, so it might just be location based.

[@Hotters9060]

@@Gainn I plan to get both the Behringer Model D and also the Poly D pretty soon. I love the original Minimoog Model D from the 1970's but it is too expensive.

[@Hotters9060]

I agree that the Behringer Poly D is better than the original real Minimoog Model D from the 1970's. The Behringer Poly D also has 4 oscillators and other features that the original Minimoog does not have and plus it is affordable too. Only $700 dollars this synthesizer is worth and it has features that the original one doesn't have.

[@centreoftheworld3000]

playing the poly d on a lower octave :)

[@eyeball226]

Right! I can't believe he didn't notice at the time...

[@Claude_van]

That’s when I lost interest.

[@AlanJet5]

The octave lower described as "that 4th oscillator gives more phatness" :)

[@iseeolly9959]

I have a Juno 6 in the shed....that chorus sounds exactly the same....got a Poly D on order.

[@happytyler41892]

Pull that out of the shed!!

[@LipazMusic]

Geeeee... I almost ordered it last week, but I waited for a feedback from a local store. Who haven't answered yet. Now I went to your webshop, and surpriiise price increase. I think I'll order it when the TD-3 will arrive from Muziker store, that I ordered on 1st of March... and the RD-909 will be available for pre-order. I think I can have at least one Behringer product around 2024. When the hysteria is over. Why people are sooo greedy...

[@joneslego3645]

wait what was the original price?

[@howardmcallister7129]

Why not get them both, and use them together?

[@homan_idk]

I got a poly D(my first synth) and I also use it as a midi keyboard. the problem is the velocity on the black keys and white keys are different. The blacks are half velocity of the whites. Have you check that before? I don't know it is my own poly D problem or every poly D are the same.....

[@pepepinochetshelicoptertou2696]

I never heard anyone else say that. I’m researching these because seems very nice. Maybe that’s a problem on your one..

[@AdamSpade]

@@pepepinochetshelicoptertou2696 I have had two odyssey’s and both have felt that way as well. I would say it is in the design and that most people don’t see it as enough of an issue to mention. I find it annoying though and prefer to just get modules from Behringer.

[@lucasdrake946]

Same here man realized this last week

[@xntricity6446]

Intetsting, have you checked to forums to see if its a common issue (Maybe Behringer is unaware of this OR could be fixed with a firmware update).

[@PaoloPeeweeDurante]

man it's ok but is better when you compare that you play excatly the same note (or better tha same octaves) anyway thanx for the very good comparison. Great job. Ciao

[@MadelnMachines]

I've read a few people saying the Model D can get more aggressive and overdriven like the original due to the gain staging of the mixer and relatively low output of the poly D. Did you have to add a lot more gain to the poly D when playing in mono? Then there's the feedback trick too. Some say the Poly D sounds more smooth. What are your thoughts on it?

[@johndavidpeer3107]

I've had both, and the Model D has the edge, for sure. Not sure why, but there's something different in the output circuits.

[@LaidbackSounds]

This is for the Gz and this is for the Hustlaz.

[@tab89]

this is for the hustlaz now back to the Gz

[@Dan24591]

@@tab89 freeze.. at ease

[@peterjessop1878]

Hey Jack lovely to see you at That Pedal show chat on Monday. Have you tried convincing Mick and Dan synths are cool?

[@thisjustin77]

yup. gonna buy it since I need it. 👀👀

[@embodie_breaks7089]

Thanks for this.... perfect!

[@DJVasC]

I had the idea that the Model D has a bit more low-end in the beginning at least, but it is so close.

[@DaraM73]

I’ve no concept of the Auto Damp, I mean what is the true definition?

[@sinistar99]

What I'm wondering is if I pulled the trigger on the Poly D would that make my Model D obsolete and should I get rid of it in the process? Or is there still something special about the Model D sound-wise? Does the Poly D in mono mode with 3 oscillators on exactly replicate the Model D?

[@skrie]

Are these Poly-D's for sale now or what? I've been hearing about them for ages. I see them for sale in online-shops. But I've never come across one in an actual shop.

[@AndertonsKeyboardDept]

They certainly are... Check out this link for more information: tinyurl.com/y9r78lqr

[@gretareinarsson7461]

I'm definitely going to buy Poly-D. But should I buy the Monopoly or the Pro 1 or Pro 800? Maybe an overload. They all seem to sound great

[@SwitchFix]

I'm really happy that he played the sim city 2000 soundtrack to show off the auto dampener

[@Siralantoon]

Thanks Jack.

[@PAraboliconly]

Is this usb to midi?

[@davidgoode7416]

Great video, thanks 👊

[@Hello-pl2qe]

Ive had the model D for about 8 months and still blown away by it. Realize though, if youre new as I am to synths that youll also need something with the ability to play triad chords. The model D is great for designated Bass or lead melody lines that sound great but you wont be able to play full chords

[@enigmasounds]

Great sounds here, but you didn't show the Poly D in the raised position!....it looks so good..... My Zoom mixer L-12 arrives tomorrow from you, so can't wait to get it all connected.

Nice video! new sub here :)

[@recordedbybrandon]

When he just had one oscillator on it sounded identical, but I noticed when he switched to the three oscillators I felt like they moog had much more tightness in tune and phase of all of the oscillation happening at once when the poly d sounded much more huge bc the phase was much wider and loose in pitch

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Full resonance always wakes up the cat. 😆

[@lucobek8821]

Model D sounds better, fuller sound

[@boogiefunkproductions2368]

I love the sound on that Poly D but my Model D sounds incredible and saves space. My only poly analog synth is Deepmind 12 and I love that thing.

[@itsrodionraskolnikov]

Is the deepmind analog?

[@shiftedfocusmusic]

@@itsrodionraskolnikov yes, the deepmind has two dcos. Digital controlled analog oscillators.

[@AdamSpade]

I’m with ya. Happy having a DeepMind 12D and a Model D. I don’t want anymore keyboards hogging space. I have two controllers I use for everything. Give me more modules and a way to rack them in a tight space and I’m a happy camper. 😊

[@Azarable]

@@shiftedfocusmusic The original Minimoog Model D from the 1970's were very iconic. They are now worth like $4,000 to $8,000 dollars right now.

[@mickpattison7489]

If you could have only 1, the poly D or the Kong opsix?

[@stefpir]

Kong is the King ^^

[@AndrewPRoberts]

14:14 I think you accidentally made an accordion

[@sibbyeskie]

1:19 what a dingus you can clearly see he has a square fundamental on the ModelD and all saws on the Poly. Also has different octave settings which can change the filter tracking. You had one job!... now for the bad news. I've done extensive tests against the original Minimoog off of videos, as well as the app, and now against the Behringer Model D and can confirm the gain staging on the Poly D prevents it from getting that really nice saturated, dark and bassy tone of the Behringer Model D or Minimoog. Go to the 1:19 mark and listen to how they handle the low C. Yes dingus here uses a square wave in the Model D which boosts the bass sound, but I can confirm it is very hard if not impossible to get that same sound without fiddling on the Poly D unless you do tricks with the overdrive and use the extra oscillator for a pure sine wave. Now don't get me wrong the Poly D sounds fantastic, but it really doesn't fully sound like a Minimoog once you start stacking Oscillators. Comparing single oscillators, it can sound close. But there's something in the mixer gain that it's lacking to get that nice smooshed-together deep round sound of multiple oscillators. It's too bad it can't get the same sound as the Model D because in almost every other way the Poly is superior. I never have to wait for it to warm up, the components are great quality, and get in tune and everything else is really nice. I don't think I'm trading this in to get a Model D, but I just wish the Poly sounded like the cheaper little brother!

[@RB-mm7ce]

Thank you for taking the time to write down that comment, very useful insight. Since I'm here i might as well ask: would you recommend any specific keyboard if I was going to buy the Model D?

[@10010011001100110101]

They realy shoulda went with Pauly D

[@NikoBased]

Why did you demo the overdrive circuit on chords? I really wanted to hear it on a bassline, since that's probably its purpose.

[@cosmojairzinho14]

Miles Davis kind of blue ...and..rick astley whenever you need somebody...things look very versatile down there...

[@tenalock]

LOL LOL the funniest chorus I ever heard! Who, and why lol

[@Struct2009]

Do the knobs send out midi cc?

[@laurentdemaroussem8370]

NOPE.. could have been an amazing feature

[@spazkong]

I still reckon Andertons are like the first QVC of music gear. Do a limited number at discount and shift massive quantity. Like GEMS TV and then my missus can buy me synthesizers whilst I'm getting her ring.

[@Danilo8208SS]

This man said Pauly D was an early 90s reality star

[@thegrinderman1090]

He said early 00s. It was actually late 00s.

[@Siralantoon]

Jack I just put my Poly D in the basket. So excited to be putting my pension to good use. Thank you matey I would have been lost without you while learning about Synths.

[@tianxing7795]

Why I feel the Poly D is little weaker than the Model D? It’s just me or you guys feel the same?

[@fakshen1973]

I don't think it's weaker... I think it's just the nature of trying to match everything up. You'll never get it just so when you're blending oscillators together, especially detuning them.

[@johndavidpeer3107]

I've had both, and the Model D has more bottom end when the resonance is up. Both sound great, but the Model D is a bit punchier, IMO.

[@ronnie19]

@@johndavidpeer3107 you say ‘had’ - did you replace with something better/not like it? Looking at getting a bass synth

[@Azarable]

@@johndavidpeer3107 The Behringer Model D is very close to the original Minimoog Model D from the 1970's and the reissue from 2016. The Poly D is pretty cool too except that it doesn't have the A 440 Hertz button on it.

[@Azarable]

@@johndavidpeer3107 The Behringer Model D is very close to the original Minimoog Model D from the 1970's and the reissue from 2016. The Poly D is pretty cool too except that it doesn't have the A 440 Hertz button on it.

[@joaquinmolano8257]

Is the Poly D better than minilogue XD? What are the key differences in sound? Really like “bizarre triangle love” intro. Thanks!

[@stefpir]

Buy both. Do a video test. Send back the one you don't want :)

[@leftmono1016]

The Korg is properly polyphonic and has an additional wavetable oscillator. Also has patch memories.

[@kimseniorb]

@@leftmono1016 also doesnt soung like a moog in the slightest

[@lithominium9955]

Honestly different purposes entirely

[@joaquinmolano8257]

@@lithominium9955 I ended up going with the XD. Been loving it ever since.

[@Fallingoverbackwards]

Are the oscillators weaker on the poly d? Trust your opinion

[@KazmaHD]

Id say so

[@hafstrat]

👍🏼💕🌈 good workout Andertons. 👍🏼💕🌈

[@lowdefal6306]

Watching this while waiting for my Poly D to ship (along with an RD-8). For some reason everyone is asking for £50-100 more than Andertons are.

[@haidar6280]

You'll find this to be a recurring theme sir 😁

[@shabbee]

Dealers set their own prices, anything else is illegal

[@haidar6280]

@@shabbee how so?

[@Hotters9060]

@@shabbee Yeah. How is that illegal?? We need an explanation for this.

[@Hotters9060]

@@haidar6280 What is #Shabbee talking about? How is this illegal??

[@mr.engizmemo9997]

I am looking for a cheap synthesizers. Whether poly or Holy. I just want to have fun. to become happy . Which you can recommend me, you have so many .What is good for fun

[@ShaunCymruDS8]

Wonder if you will get a copyright strike like Starsky Carr for the filter sweeps :)

[@soundvapor]

🤩🤩🤩🤩😜🥃🥴 yesss it's Gubbins Time😂😂😂😂😂

[@haidar6280]

Have been waiting on a comparison between these since I'm stuck between. Seems like the lil box has a little more weight in the bottom end than the poly, but tbh next to nothing in it. Cheers for this Jack! Hope you're all doing well! 🤘🏽

[@AndertonsKeyboardDept]

Glad you enjoyed the video! It really was a close comparison, not a lot in it at all but both perfect for different needs! Thanks for watching!

But the poly D does not have patch points :/ couldn't behringer make it only better, yet they cut out something

[@MakingMadBeats]

Idk about the Poly D. Ordered one some months ago and didn't like it, especially when it came to fatness compared to my Mono Lancet '15. Sounded thinner and the Poly D had a very low output in comparison.

[@inspir.edmusic]

This is for the Gs, and this is for the hustlers. This is for the hustlers, now back to the Gs.

[@Simonhughes185]

08:30 LOL

[@williamshaneblyth]

But the keyboard you chose is mini keys yuck and no mod or pitch wheels ooooh

[@damonsiegiel7855]

Poly D seems worth the extra $ for the studio.

[@lucasmartin7845]

OMG!

[@inperfectsequence7840]

Here the guy from the demo makes a mistake, he plays a different key on the model D and Poly D when he compares the filters. It really would have been easier if it wasn't complicated to play music and only do it in the same key, because it is only a demonstration of the filter and it doesn't do it well. 2:40

[@lassel1644]

Does he run on booze or something else?

[@2beJT]

that distortion effect is absolute dog spit on the poly

[@oldowl4290]

There's certainly no comparison to these price wise. The Poly D is $500 more whether that be new or used.

[@PietroTaucher]

Haboglabotribin' (Y)

[@DanRelayer_Ukraine]

model d weighs less than 2 kilos. With a compact midi keyboard, it's totally portable.

[@cartertakesatrain7108]

Can we please stop Jack (over) using 'bad boys' every 30 seconds 😊

[@TonyAndersonMusic]

I was hoping you'd simply shoot every Behringer synth until it stopped sending signal

[@rareform6747]

Love my D . It took 3 of them two bad and music tribe SUCKS !

[@BarbieChaite]

Rick Astley brought me here

[@TopJazzCat]

Haboglabotribin

[@richardthayer9146]

Ha Ha I live in North Carolina now but I lived in London.....FOR ALL YOU AMERICANS....QUID IS 2OO BONES...in America we say 200 bones or bucks instead of dollars....its quid over there.

[@Rafathy]

Im from cali. We don't say bones. East and west coast lingo tends to be distinct

[@richarda7058]

A quid is £1 mate