Behringer RD-8 MKII vs. MKI (+ Roland TR-08) | The Ultimate Comparison

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Captain Pikant

Captain Pikant

Күн бұрын

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@Allotropes
@Allotropes 2 жыл бұрын
At last the comparison that we were all waiting for, thank you! By the way, I was the one that coined the term “Rimzilla” on GearSlutz ;-) I ended up returning it and getting a revised mark 1 which from the sounds of this video I’ll be keeping. If you feel like fixing your Rimzilla yourself, Maffez has some mods on his page.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Allotropes, great to see you here :) I'm aware of Maffez' mods (we mentioned his page in the RD-6 review), but I'm not sure I'm ready to open my RD-8 up yet. But as soon as the warranty is gone, it's fair game ;)
@OMNI_INFINITY
@OMNI_INFINITY 2 ай бұрын
@@CaptainPikant *That handclap sounds a little off. There is a way to adjust that with a pot when opening that machine?*
@CKT1138
@CKT1138 2 жыл бұрын
Great taste in patterns! Love that beat from "Dig It", much love for Skinny Puppy!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A lot of recommendations for patterns actually come from our Patrons, which is how I got introduced to Skinny Puppy. I look forward to transcribing some of their 909 patterns soon :)
@CKT1138
@CKT1138 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant they have quite a breadth of good 909 patterns, especially on their first EP "Remission"
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 2 жыл бұрын
Remission and Bites are both great
@maxmatson1578
@maxmatson1578 2 жыл бұрын
Thank all of you for giving skinny puppy the props they deserve!🙏 riverheads for life!🎹🎧💀💫😵👌👍BrAp oN!!¡!✋✌
@BroodXindustrial
@BroodXindustrial 7 ай бұрын
​@@CaptainPikant Skinny was the first band to use the 909 on a recording if I remember correctly. Yep. I'm old. Just cruising through. ❤
@jamesellismarsden
@jamesellismarsden 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how those minor changes improve the feel of the groove. Most noticeable on the Skinny Puppy and Afrika Bambaataa rhythms, most prominently down to the cowbell length, but the whole image feels tighter. The TR-08 is massively shown up in this comparison also. Behringer has outclassed Roland here by faithfully capturing the magic of the 808. Hats off.
@tanzkatzen
@tanzkatzen 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm the RD sounds fatter yes, but the tuning of the HH on the TR is closer to the original.. and both still kinda sound choked compared to the 808, but that could be the mixer or output stage.. maybe if all separate outs would go to a mixer.
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
@@tanzkatzencope.
@tanzkatzen
@tanzkatzen Жыл бұрын
@@auralplex Why cope? that's the way to run an 808 as well and I'm probably unfairly comparing it against that sound, if you'd spread these out over the the table they'd be great as well?
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
@@tanzkatzen just messing around lol. Like if someone says something very reasonable and then I say "cope," it's kinda funny.
@johnviera3884
@johnviera3884 Жыл бұрын
i disagree. the Roland sounds better
@rm-zn9yh
@rm-zn9yh 2 жыл бұрын
JUSTICE OUTRO!!! Loved it!!!
@ElGuatequero
@ElGuatequero 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can complain about this channel its not have enough videos for me
@Trig242
@Trig242 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I was so torn when the MKII came out, as a MKI owner, happy to say that I am still pleased with my MKI even after the side by side. It hits all the right notes for me.
@KattKirsch
@KattKirsch 2 жыл бұрын
I'm madly in love with my MK1, it's become the percussion centerpiece for my house tracks, industrial and EBM jams, the sound of my individual unit feels like an analog fingerprint. I like that they're constantly fiddling and updating these units, but truthfully it feels like with any of these analog machines, old or remake, each unit's gonna have its own appeal. I'm really glad you did this video, because there's been just a tiny bit of anxiety about whether my precious lil buddy was in need of replacement. Sentimentality aside, listening to these side by side makes me actually super glad I snagged a MK1 when I did, and I wonder how many people coming to this video will be hunting for a white-key 808 now. Thanks again
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, we're really happy the video was so useful to you! I came to the same conclusion ;)
@Trig242
@Trig242 2 жыл бұрын
I love how I got slightly more excited for more noise on the MK1.....well that plays right into my industrial jams
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trig242 😂 The hum is roughly a G2, if that helps :)
@johnlawson3014
@johnlawson3014 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the snare and clap of the mkl myself. The deeper tone of the rim is also to my preference. I don’t think I’d feel bad owning either.
@systemlfo
@systemlfo 2 жыл бұрын
Mk1 sounds better
@MOOTANT1
@MOOTANT1 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Pikant always puts serious effort in to his videos. What a splendid chap.
@lavenderllamamusic
@lavenderllamamusic 2 жыл бұрын
i missed the boat on the MK1 so i snagged the MKII as soon as it was back in stock on sweetwater. Very pleased with it so far and can't wait to get my hands on the RD-9 as well. If it weren't for your videos on these drum machines, i wouldn't have been aware of their existence! Very helpful and insightful when in the market for some hardware
@jessihawkins9116
@jessihawkins9116 Жыл бұрын
Why do you want the RD-9 too? Will the RD-8 not do everything you want?🤔
@lavenderllamamusic
@lavenderllamamusic Жыл бұрын
@@jessihawkins9116 the RD-9 has sounds that serve really well on certain tracks, for example, the hi-hat is one of my favorites. Same for the RD-8. I think it's ideal to have both for that reason. In a live performance setting where i'd strictly be using hardware (and maybe only a laptop for recording and adding certain effects), having both means more possibilities in sounds and patterns
@SpikesStudio3
@SpikesStudio3 2 жыл бұрын
AAAAH BRO! THAT WAS JUST MAGIC! Love your productions. Am so happy to have my mk 1. Thanks for the re-assurance.
@albertpauw8234
@albertpauw8234 2 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison and animation. Felt flattered to see my name in the end credits. Great end tune too!
@foundatsea3483
@foundatsea3483 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. I owned a TR-808. My early version had a snare that was so bright it needed eq. Have read there were variances between units. BUT THAT KICK DRUM was everything.. and the glorious cowbell. These sound great!
@valquireveljkovic
@valquireveljkovic 2 жыл бұрын
rimzilla! :D just discovered your channel, great work! fresh new approach and great narration and clear and not overdosed info
@skarryprankhunter
@skarryprankhunter 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I was waiting for it!
@TheFesta01
@TheFesta01 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the justice cover at the end. Underrated album Imo
@Average-AL
@Average-AL 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I did not expect differences this big.
@SHABBA-OVERLOAD
@SHABBA-OVERLOAD Жыл бұрын
there isn't if your music already sucks
@chesterpoobum
@chesterpoobum 2 жыл бұрын
This video convinced me to buy the RD-8 MKII. I used to own an OG 808 for about 10 years. I sold it because I cashed in on these ridiculous vintage bubble prices. Behringer fixed all the little things that were bugging me in the MKI. The kick now has that proper full punch and harmonic richness that my OG had. The snare is snappier now and the clap is the proper pitch and tone... among the other changes. I just wish Behringer included a switch to choose between the early 808 snare and the later one. I'm spoiled because I had the real deal for so long, so those MKI differences bothered me. But honestly, in the grand scheme of things, both machines will get the job done. But you want to be nerdy about it, the MKII really does nail that OG 808 vibe. I'm impressed!
@maxmatson1578
@maxmatson1578 2 жыл бұрын
Holyshit!!!! Ultra mad props👌 for giving skinny puppy's "dig it" a demonstration in the gear demo.. Hugely grateful🙏 rivet heads for life!!!!🎹🎧💀💫😵👌😎👍BrAp oN!!¡!✋✌
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
CBD may help you
@_DECEAS3D_
@_DECEAS3D_ 2 жыл бұрын
I want to learn how to make beats so bad but I'm only 14 and broke maybe next year when I get a job I can start practicing,until then I'll take notes from your videos
@ericMT
@ericMT 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of us started making electronic music when we were 14 and broke. Start by getting whatever cheap or free instruments you can find, it’s more fun that just spending a ton of money on gear and will result in a more unique sound.
@josephwright5921
@josephwright5921 Жыл бұрын
There might be potentiometers inside that allow you to tweak things further. There is one inside the RD 6 for the snare. If you take good measurements, you can drill a hole inside the back cover of the RD 6 and then easily adjust it with a non-metallic screwdriver to make your snare harder or softer.
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
Ok buddy
@brianobush
@brianobush Жыл бұрын
Skinny puppy!? Wow, instant sub. Nice comparison.
@coolwav
@coolwav 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! I have the mk 1 and was planning on getting rid of it and buying the mk ii. But the snappy Snare noise, longer cowbell, and ability to record a clap without reverb before the circuit warms up is awesome. I will be keeping the 1 and getting the II soon 😎
@RussArteaga
@RussArteaga 2 жыл бұрын
First of all I wanted to say excellent comparison. I really love that you switched back and forth very quickly because as you probably know, the human memory of actual sound is incredibly short. So I thank you for a proper A/B. Also you made me laugh a number of times and since I'm mostly a robot it's very hard to do but you did not fail. And lastly I have to say the clap on your MKII just didn't do it for me. It was too high in pitch and sounded tiny. But that of course is my robot opinion. Also love that you included Mr Robotnik. We're cousins.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russ! I'm really glad you recommended Alexander Robotnik to us, we already made an end jam out it for the distortion pedal episode :) 🤖
@renefagermo
@renefagermo 2 жыл бұрын
This video is sooo well done!
@Syntox
@Syntox 2 жыл бұрын
The color scheme of those first four step keys on the MK II would absolutely drive me bonkers, over and above any sound difference
@grathapilot
@grathapilot Жыл бұрын
lol I agree, I just got an MK2 because the sounds were improved but really wish they didn't change those keys to black... almost made me want to pick the MK1 just for the brighter keys as silly as that sounds...
@ericvernooij2917
@ericvernooij2917 2 жыл бұрын
One big advantage the Roland TR-08 has over the Behringer is the footprint. I don't have a lot of space in my studio, so I love its size. (I don't own one yet, I have the Roland TR-06 which suits me just fine - for now)
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
That's true. I find myself reaching for the TR-08 very often simply because it's battery powered and has an internal speaker. Plus you don't have to tidy up the desk first ;)
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 жыл бұрын
Small footprint is definitely a plus. I wish Behringer would have gone with a size similar to the Crave. But the Roland's are digital and the difference definitely comes through even on small speakers.(I have no problem with digital anything in fact I love them equally). I have a few analog drum machines (Dr 55, Dr 100, Simmons sds8) and the analog sound is distinct. But my favorite of them all is the UNO Drum... it's a small analog/digital hybrid. With 12 sounds 6 analog 6 PCM. It actually has about 55 or so PCM drum sounds to choose from, and through their software you can swap them out for other KITS they offer (free) from their legacy collection that includes Roland and other fairly obscure drum machines. The analog sounds, sound superb and have basic tuning options as well as built in comp and drive (both analog) with line in. It's not perfect though. Outputs are extremely limited and many people claim a noisy output (seems related to how it's powered) but it's definitely there regardless.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
bigger is better...gear and women
@ericvernooij2917
@ericvernooij2917 2 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise Actually, I'm gay, but this applies to men too.
@indegruv
@indegruv 2 жыл бұрын
I don't buy the tiny stuff
@brunovalente2077
@brunovalente2077 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I just bought an used RD-8 Mk1 for a good price, but, without any research I just tghout the mk2 would be substancial diferent, mainly in the sound circuits, and I would be loossing something, but not at all. Not to much to be worried about. Alghout, the noise floor it's a a very nice upgrade, but I guess I will have to live with it , because I am keeping it as it is
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 2 жыл бұрын
The separate outs on the Behringer make it the better choice over the Roland TR-08 for me. I've actually owned two vintage TR-808s over the last twenty years, and they sounded quite different to each other. That difference may have been down to any revisions Roland made during the production run, but it could also have been down to components ageing differently depending on how much use each machine had seen before I acquired them. (Before anyone accuses me of hoarding vintage TR-808s, I no longer own either of them!)
@JanKowalski-vh1rg
@JanKowalski-vh1rg 2 жыл бұрын
Today every 808 sounds diffrent beacuse its analog machine and resistors with tolerance 20% and TR 08 dosen't have "Multi out" beacuse its using ABC technology (computer simulate analog circuits behavior)
@tobiaswinkler6971
@tobiaswinkler6971 2 жыл бұрын
That is maybe why you hate it or love it.
@bigredracingteam9642
@bigredracingteam9642 Жыл бұрын
​@@JanKowalski-vh1rg Are you sure about the 20% tolerance? In the schematics in the 808 service manual you'll see resistor values from the E12 (or E24) series which suggests at least 10% tolerance ones were (also) used.
@JanKowalski-vh1rg
@JanKowalski-vh1rg Жыл бұрын
@@bigredracingteam9642 Maybe but still its 40 years old gear
@NachtSchreck13
@NachtSchreck13 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the looooong trail on the MKII clap sucks, the snare is better on the first one, and I think I prefer the bassdrum on the MKI. The MKII kick has a great tail, and a warmer tone, but the initial attack transient has a weird, subtle stutter which drives me nuts. It's also subdued after the attack, which gives it a strange curve. The MKI BD Is clearer, the attack is a snappy ping, the body is very round and bouncy. I initially thought I preferred the MKII bass drum, but the more I compare them the more it annoys me. It actually sounds almost like a cross between an 808 and 909 bassdrum.
@stevehagen8694
@stevehagen8694 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Great comparison
@madFame
@madFame 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your detailed and thorough content. Very well presented and informative!
@brokenscart7989
@brokenscart7989 2 жыл бұрын
Impeccable work as always
@VacancyOfDisco
@VacancyOfDisco 2 жыл бұрын
Instant like for including Skinny Puppy
@nicholasdorazio10
@nicholasdorazio10 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Love that little totoro! I'll be grabbing the mk2
@beatspieces6213
@beatspieces6213 2 жыл бұрын
It almost seems worth buying them both. They both have their own charm. I prefer different sounds from each. The best part, is you can buy them both, and still save over $5k. I love Behringer for what they do. I only own a Model D, but I'll more than likely buy more Behringer gear. I'm waiting for the UB-Xa. Unless I end up coming into more money than I currently have, and can afford an OB-X8. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one someday, but for now, I'm waiting for Behringer to release theirs.
@edrosa3485
@edrosa3485 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. My MK1 bit the dust and since I didn't register, Behringer won't cover it. So that sour experience had me leaning towards the TR-08 but after hearing the comparison; nnnoooooo.......
@miikasalo
@miikasalo 2 жыл бұрын
I think in MKII the overall "mix" is better, it sound's tighter and instruments are clearer
@miikasalo
@miikasalo 2 жыл бұрын
TR-08 is harsher, more bright
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz Жыл бұрын
The other way around for me ,MK 1 has more lift in the patterns , MK2 sounds like a MK1 with a depression😅
@miikasalo
@miikasalo Жыл бұрын
@@cnfuzz I'll have to take a second listen :)
@miikasalo
@miikasalo Жыл бұрын
@@cnfuzz Hahah well now when I listened MKI sounded better :D More old school sound
@cl1xor
@cl1xor 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, for one the rd-8 sounds more airy than the tr-08 which sounds a bit muffled by comparision. And the mk2 sounds a bit more muffled than the mk1. Think i prefer the mk1 sounds
@strykermoonfall2220
@strykermoonfall2220 Жыл бұрын
That outro was SICK
@R41NES
@R41NES 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video thank you, I have to say the MK1 / MKII comparison was so well done with the video editing. Really appreciate the effort this must have taken to create. Well done sir.
@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you, your video is the best so far on KZbin. Love it 💗💙💜❤💛💚
@tommykruesofficial
@tommykruesofficial 9 ай бұрын
Tbh the dry clap has always been a reason i didn't want to sell my mkI. prob buy this one as well as the rd-9.
@solaariz
@solaariz 2 жыл бұрын
My main observation is the Roland sounds terrible when compared to the Behringers. Such a shame. Nice comparison thanks for the hard work!
@adiyair2755
@adiyair2755 2 жыл бұрын
IMO the big improvement is the sounds of the toms and clave.
@summerbaymusic
@summerbaymusic Жыл бұрын
Can the black buttons be replaced with white ones?
@JZ_Strings
@JZ_Strings 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of neither, to me Mk2 sounds tighter, the swing is more engaging, kick leaves a stronger impression/ more punchy
@thebat6945
@thebat6945 2 жыл бұрын
For me it will be Kick MK2 , Snare Tr-08 , Toms/Congas MK2 , Clave MK2 , Rimshot MK1 , Clap MK1 , Cowbell MK1 , Cymbal I DONT USE THEM 😂 , Hats MK2 ( Tr-08 Hats are from a VST, right? 😅) , so in the end I will stick with my TR-8S to have ALL this! Great vid BTW 😉Thx
@SwiftDreamer
@SwiftDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
I see a Captain Pikant notification, I click watch. Simple
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service ❤
@ChromosomeSyndicate
@ChromosomeSyndicate 2 жыл бұрын
I m happy with my two Rimzilla's i just adjusted the noise trimmer inside for the snaresound .
@digitalruler5976
@digitalruler5976 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work as always Captain! Warm Regards, Digital Ruler
@FreeSpiritWriter
@FreeSpiritWriter 2 жыл бұрын
thanks brother im get one of these i think i gonna be the roland as it sounds crisper
@wanderfalke3209
@wanderfalke3209 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I own a mk1 and ordered a mk2, just to compare like you did. ( I thought I will keep the mk2) To my ears, I liked the mk1 more and, fun fact, on the single outs I had more noise on the mk2.
@nobbystyles4807
@nobbystyles4807 2 жыл бұрын
excellent review. it looks exactly like the boss rc-505 update, the mk2 being not really worth the money from the mk1. subbed the channel, thanks!
@summerlaverdure
@summerlaverdure 5 ай бұрын
the end jam is so good
@MrBruceHerrera
@MrBruceHerrera 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the On'n'On - Justice outro!!!
@lingerecords
@lingerecords 2 жыл бұрын
You know Skinny Puppy's Dig It ! Niiiiice !
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah one of our patrons introduced me to them :)
@bunker8digitallabs
@bunker8digitallabs Жыл бұрын
Boy, when you played the Behringer in comparison with the Roland, the Roland sounded AWFUL. Really boxy and anemic. I liked the Mk1 overall by Behringer, unpopular opinion.
@conradmaceo
@conradmaceo 2 күн бұрын
The Roland TR8 sounds way better than the little boutique one in this video!
@marsmediapro
@marsmediapro 6 ай бұрын
Nice vid; thanks! The Skinny Puppy sounds much the same between Mark One and Two. I def like the clap sound better on Mark One, so, I won't be "upgrading". It's e good comparison! Thanks.
@mcbain23
@mcbain23 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison thanks Captain P. Think i'll be fine with sticking with the MK1 for now (and instead go for the RD-9 hubba hubba)
@303shaunl
@303shaunl 8 ай бұрын
Nice ;)
@howardhutchinson1631
@howardhutchinson1631 2 жыл бұрын
Much like the Mk1 more as it is raw like the old one i had once. The BD on some original TR's weren't that low and needed loads of post processing.
@ZozillaThaGreat
@ZozillaThaGreat Жыл бұрын
Superb video , the totally messed up the Clap and cowbell on the 2 , but the rest in MK2 seems better or equal .... strange choice for the clap , my main concern You're totally right about a pitch control on the clap ;) By the way the comparaison with the roland is way off since you didn't tuned for exemple the HH on the roland to match the MK2 .... pretty everything can be tuned in the Roland ...
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We actually did tune everything on the Roland to get everything as close as possible, but you can't get them to sound alike. There's apparently more to it than a simple pitch adjustment.
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 Жыл бұрын
I own a real TR-808 and don't feel that they 'messed up the clap and cowbell' on the MKII. The cowbell does sound slightly closer to the MKI on my TR-808, but it's not 'way off' on the MKII either. The clap on the MKII does sound quite close to my TR-808. The pitch is perfect (it was too low on the MKI) although the 'reverb trail' is somewhere between the MKI and MKII on my TR-808. The clap on both actually do sound better than the TR-08, which has too much of a 'crackle' in the clap sound. My 808 sounds smoother, more like the RD-8s. The most 'off' to me are actually the hihats. Too dark (but maybe it's better if tuned up a little) and too much 'tone' on the RD-8 compared to my TR-808. The hihats on the TR-08 are even more off though, sounding too piercing and bright. But I know that different TR-808 units will all sound a bit different, so it really depends on what you're comparing it to. This makes it hard to say which sounds 'more like a TR-808' in general. 😉I do still think the RD-8s are much better sounding than the Roland TR-08 though.
@everpuremusic
@everpuremusic Жыл бұрын
I have an Analog Rytm Mk2, so I'm not in the business for the Behringer machines. But the Mk2 RD-8 is a winner for the improved claps alone. Shame they missed the opportunity to give the cowbell tune and decay knobs. Oh, and the TR-08 has the far punchier kick, so I'd go for that in a hearbeat. ;)
@danielrobinofficial
@danielrobinofficial Жыл бұрын
excellent. thank you so much
@vinyljunkie07
@vinyljunkie07 2 жыл бұрын
such lovely hands
@re8et355
@re8et355 2 жыл бұрын
I would fit the volca beat in these comparison as well, with the separate output mod, it has been, for quite some time, the best 808 alternative on the market. Price wise, it's unbeatable. The Rd-08 mkI second hand price has gone down significantly, whilst the Tr-08 is still on the far edge, more expensive than the MkII. The Tr08 hats sounds higher in every song comparison, better, crispy and clear sound to me, but it seems the Rd-08 hats tone could go up a little more??
@robnewton3368
@robnewton3368 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Mk 1 and remain pretty pleased with it. The core sound is good enough. We are talking about nuances here in comparison with the mk2. After putting the mk1 through a compressor and or something like Elektron’s analog heat, for example, it ceases to make sense comparing fractional details. Unless of course you’re a complete anorak.
@PuRe_AdDicT
@PuRe_AdDicT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comparison. I’ll keep my TR-6S ;)
@PWMaarten
@PWMaarten 2 жыл бұрын
IMO they ruined the clap in the mkII
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to say I prefer the lower MKI clap with less decay...
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 Жыл бұрын
No. I think the clap on the mkII is much improved. I just wish it was pitched the same as the Mkl.
@scooba789
@scooba789 Ай бұрын
@@kvmoore1 That's why it sucks, it's too high pitched.
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 Ай бұрын
@@scooba789 Agreed!
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 2 жыл бұрын
Some of these changes may not be MkI to MkII, but simply individual differences from unit to unit. The pitches definitely. The kick decay and rimshot volume, probably not.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Sadly we don't have any more RD-8s lying around to test this, but it's safe to assume that there are small differences from unit to unit :)
@Trig242
@Trig242 2 жыл бұрын
They always say no 2 TR-808s sounded alike either!
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trig242 Yeah, I got two different 909 owners send in recordings of their 909's to compare with mine and an RD-9, and yes, the differences between the 909's are bigger than the difference between my 909 and the RD-9. :-) I made a video about that.
@lars-fenin
@lars-fenin 2 жыл бұрын
yap...there might also be a difference between the "rimzilla" mk1 and the later version of the mk1 (which i own).
@nlego5153
@nlego5153 Жыл бұрын
Got the MKII. Will most likely replace my euro trigger sequencers for just this. I really prefer the Behringer to the Roland. Hats sound really off on the Roland
@vj7248
@vj7248 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the color change was due to a copyright scare from Roland. Not sure if there's any confirmation, but it would explain the sudden random color change.
@ultralife73
@ultralife73 Жыл бұрын
The Mk2 sounds more balanced when playing full patterns. Behringer did a great job there, it sounds amazing!
@sopromatism
@sopromatism 2 жыл бұрын
MK I sounds like TR-808. I have Roland TR-808.
@lawrenceelliott3923
@lawrenceelliott3923 6 ай бұрын
How can I order the mark 11
@theoneandonlyoni
@theoneandonlyoni Жыл бұрын
I’d just get both, and the Tr-08. I’m no gear snob, and to me it’s like you can have multiple guitars that have just slightly different sounds, and each one has its purpose, and everyone seems to understand. So even if they’re all separate remakes of the same drum machine, since each has its own slightly different sound and look from eachother, they’re all worth having, Cause each sound might find its way in a totally different song... The question is, will you need 3 variations of the same sound, And the answer is, yeah maybe... probably..
@jansonrawlings8169
@jansonrawlings8169 2 жыл бұрын
Bunch of people here in the comments saying whichever one they already own sounds ‘better.’ Well I have neither and on my monitors the mkii sounds better. More organic and less harsh. The instruments seem to glue together more as well
@Outdoorshuntingshooting
@Outdoorshuntingshooting 7 күн бұрын
When will they drop a fairlight?
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting. I have a real TR-808 and comparing the MKI vs MKII with my 808 it's a bit of a mixture which sounds closest. The clap of the MKII sounds identical to my 808. The same goes for the claves. But the Rimshot on the other hand (apart from the volume thing) sounds closer to the MKI. Also the toms are slightly closer to the MKI, but my tuning range is a little different. The bass drum on my TR-808 actually has a longer maximum decay than even the MKII. The most 'off' to me sounds the hihats, which are higher and 'cleaner' sounding on my TR-808. But the RD-8 hats are still closer than the Roland TR-08 hats are, which sound even more off to me, but in the opposite direction (too bright). 😅 But having heard other TR-808s online, I know there are quite a lot of differences between separate units, which makes comparisons a bit hard in general. I think either Behringer RD-8 is pretty close to 'an' example of a TR-808 without it likely matching any particular unit exactly.
@mr.mustache6400
@mr.mustache6400 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned just about every 808 clone at this point. I sold every one but the rd8 MK1. I never thought about mine being rimzilla. I guess it is. I would imagine if I could afford ( or wanted to spend that kind of money) a actual 808, it would likely have some kind of quirk as well. I just make music and try not to get caught up. I absolutely lobe my rd8 more so than the Miami I had before it. Thanks for the video. I prefer the sound of the MK1 to the MK2. It seems every instrument on the MK1 goes together better. The Mk2 sounds like some of them are out of place. Like the snare and cowbell.
@helio1055
@helio1055 Жыл бұрын
i feel the same way
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy the mk2 last month but was skeptical due to the fact that I really wanted and needed to know the difference between the previous model; which I had previously watched your video and ultimately put me into this purchasing conundrum as you really showcased why it's such a great machine. I'm sure when I start and finish watching this video you will have inadvertently led me to make the correct/appropriate choice in making said purchase. thanks for all that you do. ❤
@alexandrumihaibudes3852
@alexandrumihaibudes3852 2 жыл бұрын
Love ur reviews - very honest and in depth. Would you consider the Drumbrute for review?
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The DrumBrute Impact is one of my favourite drum machines, but I don't know if we have the time to review it :)
@alexandrumihaibudes3852
@alexandrumihaibudes3852 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant Thanks for the opinion!
@QuantumKatmusic
@QuantumKatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like more could have been done to call it a mark 2 upgrade, they could have added some heavier new features, like a decay knob on the cowbell would be cool, or an ability to live record pitch change to the kick since 808 kicks are notoriously known for the long bass like draw that's so often used with fake 808 sounds in daws and on like every post 2000s rap song ever lol. It'd be cool to be able to automate it on the actual 808 machine In my opinion I do like the black, on the first 4, even though it doesn't blend as well, it does show the divide between 1 through 4 and 5 through 8 better
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, pitch automation on the kick would have been a killer feature!
@reardondearborn
@reardondearborn 11 ай бұрын
What do you use to really make the rd8 pop? When i mix in my tascam it's never so loud and bright.
@moretrio
@moretrio 2 жыл бұрын
They should keep upgrading the firmware, I feel it would make more of a difference than having a mkII.
@petercane6376
@petercane6376 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video. How can I buy your cheat sheets for the synth please? Your videos are so clear and concise.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter! You can find all our Cheat Sheets on our Patreon, the link is in the video description :)
@jamesnisbet3498
@jamesnisbet3498 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I can't find anywhere online regarding the boot button next to USB input on the MK2. The button is gone now? Mine certainly is and now I'm not sure how to update firmware on my MK2.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
I don't think you need that boot button anymore. If I remember correctly it was only used on firmware versions before 2.0, everything after that can be updated with the Synthtribe app.
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 2 жыл бұрын
The pitch range variations are likely just something to do with the manufacturing tolerances of the potentiometers.
@thehousejacker7272
@thehousejacker7272 2 жыл бұрын
You played problems. Such an underrated song these days.
@mh22xv
@mh22xv 28 күн бұрын
Hey Captain! Can you do a Behringer LM Drum review please!?
@AhmetKizilay0
@AhmetKizilay0 2 жыл бұрын
Nice outro!
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 2 жыл бұрын
So many people tried to copy the amazing drum pattern on sexual healing. Like Steve Winwood, Higher Love. None were as good!
@N.G.S._01
@N.G.S._01 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE his voice! It’s like a combination between Henry Kissinger and the narrator of Peppa Pig.
@ivanbuonanno3309
@ivanbuonanno3309 Жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial as always. I recently bought the RD-8, I noticed the output level is very low even with the pots all the way up (about -20db), is this normal?
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The output level shouldn't be that low, with all pots on maximum you should easily be able to clip the inputs of your audio interface.
@sirsilver1968
@sirsilver1968 2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong in regards to the clap capacitor on the mk2 it occasionally does need to charge up, on mine anyway after 1 or 2 hits.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
Ours just had to charge up only once after turning it on and it didn't lose its charge over the session, hence "no longer an issue" :) But I'm curious to see how that evolves over time because I remember that the MKI didn't need that many triggers to charge up when I first got it...
@justinmerritt3843
@justinmerritt3843 2 жыл бұрын
I have the MkII and a yocto V2, that's all you would ever need as far as 808 goes.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
Behringer changing the colors of the buttons has probably legal reasons. Roland protected the design of the TR-808. Behringer just reversed the order on the MK1. It's pretty much the same sequence of colors when looking at the unit from the other side. I can imagine that some customers reversed the order back to match the original TR-808, also. With the black buttons it is not possible to do this without sourcing new buttons or painting the existing ones white.
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 2 жыл бұрын
I can definitely hear the difference in the kick decay. The longer kick decay definitely makes the mkii worth checking out. I have a late model mki which sounds very good and doesn't have the rimzilla defect. However, I'd like to have the longer decay bassdrum on the mkii.
@elekktrikk_home_video
@elekktrikk_home_video 2 жыл бұрын
One problem with the MK-I ist phase inversion of single istrument outs and main out. Additionally in my specimen the dry signal considerably bleeds through the additional filter which is a pity - since I like the tuning of the MK-I better. Great video! Thanks a lot :)
@lindsaywebb1904
@lindsaywebb1904 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love a comparison with the Acidlab drumatix..I tried one in a store and I really liked the sound and I prefer the 606 over the 808 for hats and snare.. just that wimpy kick drives me nuts. I’ve ruled the Roland variants out because of the micro usb power.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to get my hands on an Acidlab machine, but the manufacturer appears to be out of business now :(
@lindsaywebb1904
@lindsaywebb1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant probably chased from the market with the B onslaught
@dtnjnq
@dtnjnq 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to test 2 MK2 units side by side. Being analog they may also sound slightly different . I think that any 2 analog unit will also sound slightly different
@OMNI_INFINITY
@OMNI_INFINITY 2 ай бұрын
*That robotnik sequence is nice*
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