JT-4000 MICRO - Smallest Full Featured Synth in History?

[@tonycowin]

We're at a crazy point in synth history where you can buy hardware cheaper than the plugin.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

All digital items should be piratable due to no one being harmed from the process.

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@fortheloveofnoise apart from people losing their jobs, falling in to poverty, losing their homes, and no more products on the market, sure, no harm done!

[@ramseydoon8277]

Thank the good lord above.

[@CyberCreeper22]

always has been

[@April480p]

@@fortheloveofnoiseThey are. Try looking harder, commie.

[@speakingcolors]

Just got mine today. I was afraid it was gonna be too menu divy. Naaahh, it doesn't even feel like you're menu diving. Everything is quickly accessible, easy to tweak, intuitive and at a reach. The only thing I needed the manual for was how to save a preset. I got to say, I am heavily impressed. Got it, unboxed, pluged into my phone charger, grabbed my headphones, powered it on, got on my couch making patches and tweaking everything. I truly got lost and forgot something else than me and the synth existed. I got to say, when I finally noticed the cats... their expressions have let me know that they've been hungry for hours waiting for me to notice them. I'm alive but damn fun micro synth tbh. Good job Berhinger! P.S. No cat was harmed during this review. The human has some scratches. The cats weren't truly hungry, had all the food they want, but they wanted that other flavour.

[@E4RLIES]

Plus (and this may be just my cat as he’s very old) It is less sit-able on being so tiny My cat always finds my Korg M1 or mixing desk most comfortable😼 😡😝

[@rachelar]

Cat Lives Matter!

[@za4310]

I love how the keys are arranged. You get an octave PLUS a scale tone lower and higher. That way you can resolved to the root from the subdominant and from the second scale degree. If it was c to c that would imply starting and endinh at the lowest or highest note for C major key melodies. This small change opens things up so much.

[@malcolmlee1841]

To anyone wondering, you can use a USB MIDI Hub to connect it to a keyboard without using a computer. I've done it myself.

[@keithhampton9700]

Please tell.🤔

[@gianlucamingotto]

yes, can u explain how u can do it with this version... i got the same keyboard, how u can give the power to both of them and connect them at the same time with the same cable?!

[@natbvm1880]

I do wish it had a dedicated midi port, that keeps me from using it live. But it’s still amazing

[@dankauffmanmusic]

How is the bigger keyboard linked in this video?

[@ilovecatsandsynths9702]

@@dankauffmanmusic via USB through a computer most likely. I doubt that little thing can be a USB host, and both it and the keyboard had to be powered via the USB as well. There’s likely a laptop off screen.

[@TheKiller1922]

@@ilovecatsandsynths9702 I think it can since it's a type c port, they have enough amps usually.

[@langa2s]

Can this be used with your DAW to record with midi.

[@ilovecatsandsynths9702]

@@langa2s It has USB midi so it should work well with a DAW.

[@AlekseiDroganov]

It is one of the best Behringer synths. But we need midi connections (in/out) to use it in our live setups to enjoy it fully-featured . Thank you

[@Jason75913]

UNDERSTATEMENT That was a corner that shouldn't have been cut, even if they had to resort to 3.5mm sockets for MIDI.

[@wizards001]

Usb.

[@lordundhimself1310]

I thought they said it has usb midi

[@Jason75913]

@@lordundhimself1310 only USB, which is the complaint

[@JM-bt2jb]

So does this mean it can't be used within a DAW/Sequencer?

[@noahkadner7756]

I love how they keep adding different tiny items next to it for scale!

[@EricBlair-jg2ux]

the spoon was hilarious lol

[@CarfDarko]

This will look so cute on top of my JP8000

[@andybside]

My dream would be a full jp-8000 reboot. ❤ 90's trance was, and always will be, the 💣

[@canecreek00]

Sounds great, just wish I had the space for it

[@atomicasounds]

Sounds great, but I would have loved to hear some trance style leads/arpeggios using the Supersaw waveform.

[@Xangaperu]

Right

[@tobitweaks]

WHERE IS THAT SUPERSAW????? Man I waited for this but well the main feature of the JP8000 is not there…or did the marketing team go too full on 80s to program some real 90s/00s Trance patches??? Much respect, Tobi

[@RhettAnderson]

From what I saw it seems like it does have supersaw but not the metal osc. But I don't know how you adjust the supersaw parameters, so I'm waiting for a review.

[@QWLMusic]

Why is this 80s if the JP8000 came out in 97? A full size would be great.

[@N1h1L3]

Because the jp8000 was already an 80's (Jupiter) inspired synth.

[@QWLMusic]

@@N1h1L3 But the JT is a JP mini, thus 97. But I see your point.

[@killerpimp01]

Pretty cool, but no dedicated midi port is kind of a deal breaker. They could have al least included a 3.5mm midi port.

[@DarrenSangita]

It's got USB midi so ....

[@Answersonapostcard]

We need to get rid of those ancient midi ports

[@ericMT]

I agree but at least it has USB midi

[@wolfchan4389]

@@DarrenSangita except that means it is unusable without a computer as far as control goes. if it at least has a trs midi you could use it as a standalone

[@gctechs]

@@DarrenSangita... So it's not enough.

[@payt01]

Cute little thing. Kinda hoping there will be a more fully featured module version with a nice knbby interface and at least 8 voices though :) Not sure if it sounds particularly like JP-8000 though.. it almost sounds too good and fat, and kinda seems to miss that plasticy gloss which every JP 8000 sound has.

[@patriciaoudart1508]

Just commented the same👍👌☺️👍 it seem's making too small toys is not our fist concerns, but playing music with lot of them if the sound is good, so mounting it in our setup, as we have no place on a desk to place it. As I said, it would be interesting to see what version will have the best success on the market .

[@zardozjones]

I think it's missing the hp filter per voice - which lowers the aliasing on the original and gives it that big plastic sound - along with the chorus and delay.

[@EnervatedSociety]

"Inspired by", not cloned. It has a real analog filter, for example, not found on the original. Sounds better imo. Never did like the JP though.

[@PC0067]

Sa sonne bien gras en tout cas

[@PhilW222]

Sounds surprisingly good for such a small package

[@levidowsett1297]

@behringer. Guys can we please have a real (eurorack) size or desktop version version as well. It’s all very cute but it’s only fun for a few minutes then all the limitations sink in when trying to do real work on it. Things like carrying twenty things and adapters and power strips and bla bal. The sound is amazing, thank you for the design but can we please have a professional version of each of these?

[@DavidJKellett]

Well I’ve ordered one from Andertons in the UK. These are so tiny it’s going to be easy to fit them in the little gaps between other stuff.

[@The_Sonic_Oasis]

Freaking awesome!!!! I Really hope this is the future of the form factor of hardware synthesizers. Affordable and super portable.

[@RalphBaumgartl]

What a lovely sound in such a tiny box

[@emiliendauzou5748]

Ok nice synth. But where is the typical massive supersaw sound 🤔

[@centralbpm]

Congrats for the fun video! Excellent video team!

[@PatchDog]

Thanks, it's not a video team though, it's just me who makes the videos. Cheers, Patrick.

[@Synthesis1979]

Originally the JP8000 was used as a Trance and Techno synth. I think What Behringer have done here has reprogramed the same engine with vintage patches.

[@rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427]

It doesnt sound like a jp8000 though

[@rcs2003]

@@rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427 yeah its like a really dry jp8000 muckoff without chorus, eq, delay, the original digital filter charcter and the crazy fast clicky envelopes :) All of these are the real soul of the original jp8000/8080.

[@TarnishedCharm]

Really looking forward to the Hirotribe groovebox, hopefully that one is up soon!

[@Jason75913]

I'm terribly curious myself.

[@Early-Adopter]

Interest in this as well. I’d love to use this and a Hirotribe controlled by a Circuit Tracks with each device outputting to a mini stereo mixer.

[@FatSynthDude]

I love that crunchy DAC. If a knobby version of this comes out, I'm so there. Stick it in the same form factor as the Pro One and Neutron, and I'll love you forever.

[@karl.weaver]

Got mine today, wonderful, simply amazing!

[@_Scyber]

Behringer keeps impressing me every single year. Well done! ✌️😎💯

[@anthonyb.2983]

It would be nice to have an audio input like Korg has on the NTS series and Monotrons to run through that 12 bit DAC output.

[@jonnyhead]

Yes but please make the quality of the soldering to the PSB much stronger than the NTS1 that's extremely poor.

[@chrisconnollyofficial]

Preordered today! I’m hoping Behringer do a full JT-8000 as well ❤️

[@digitalcommandos303]

This!!! @behringer

[@gregoryzaharias1831]

I really hope u make a fs version

[@johngalvin6352]

Can't wait for the smaller version to this one, no but who else is rocking it like Behringer.

[@jessecox8486]

Transposed a stenography keyboard onto an NKRO keyboard, and then placed piano on top of that. I've got 4 fully functional scales in 30 keys. Been looking for an affordable synth. This appears to be the one. Thanks for a great review.

[@VJFranzK]

0:50 Technically, "All the music" includes Drums! Might we get a Micro drum machine also, later on?

[@Volcaniced]

That's exactly what I thought

[@wilorules]

Amazing, pumping out banger after banger - just wish it had midi! Also, is the Pro VS Mini polychainable? Love you guys!!!

[@ericMT]

I preordered one of these back in April. I am so excited for this. I love these smaller synths. I love that it can be powered by a phone or battery pack and take it anywhere to jam on it. Sounds good.

[@Fabian_drop02]

From where? I don't see it for pre order anywhere.

[@Wagoo]

All I can say is: it'd better come with a wrist-strap PS: I still think it'd be logical to do eurorack voice module versions of all these mini and nano sized palmtop synths

[@TheHorseValse]

Indeed!

[@patriciaoudart1508]

Just commented the same 😺👍🤗the idea is in the air!

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Imagine key chaining it on your backpack lol.

[@ericMT]

Eurorack versions are a no brainer. The only issue is what do you make CV controllable and how much more engineering will that take? I’d love to see it though.

[@erazorDev]

That super oddly placed USB-C port is a time bomb for sure.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Yea, best to get a 3 meter cable and just leave it plugged in at all times.

[@Jason75913]

​@@fortheloveofnoise it has no MIDI DIN/3.5mm input/output, so it's not like you will have a choice 😅

[@aounms]

​@@Jason75913now yes 😉

[@B-a_s-H]

Nice, sounds pretty awesome for such a small box. ❤

[@xPORTALWALKERx]

I still have my JP8000. Love it.

[@bigkik]

Hello, First of all, and as i already said previously about the pro vs mini, It sounds really good for me. But although i was very enthusiast at first glance one year ago, i am not sure now to pull the trigger on them considering my specific needs (dawless setup) : - no built-in power source, - no din or trs midi for the jt-4000, - limited or inexistent built-in sequencer. I totally understand certain limitations (no built-in battery for instance) chosen to keep the costs as low as possible and/or for environnemental concerns. But as small devices with a form factor ideal to be carried everywhere, the ability to be truly self-contained without the need for other accesories (powerbank, usb midi host, sequencer...) is a great advantage. I own already several behringer products, so i am not against you. I don't know how much the "dawless" hobbyists like me "weight" in the musical market, but from my experience there is a real need for compact and affordable tools like external sequencers, usb midi host, compact mixers... i don't know if you are planning products in these fields but they could be game changers ! I now wait for the hirotribe ; can't wait !

[@Wagoo]

I agree. Here it is 86% the price of the Pro VS mini, too.. which has way more controls and MIDI that doesn't rely on USB. I'm sure this ultra tiny form factor was originally supposed to come in around half the price of the larger (small) format. Not even 3.5mm TRS MIDI onboard is a bit of a killer

[@gaborb6577]

I also wait for hirotribe, and your train travel jams with this one.🎉

[@bigkik]

​@@gaborb6577thank you for your support. Unfortunately I might not buy this one soon unless I find a simple way to integrate it in my workflow...

[@PC0067]

J'aime bien mais je travaille aussi sur ordinateur avec des bon plugins.

[@gaborb6577]

​@@bigkiksome having access to this thing please tell us if usb midi is android compatible and if a normal phone can supply ?

[@swst09]

The original JP-8000 had a 18-bit DAC, though

[@Il-Cane]

12 bit dac is amazing , some textures r so cute

[@relaxationatmosnation]

is it stereo? Shouldnt the supersaw be really wide?

[@johnsuggs7828]

Come one guys. Get them out to Sweetwater or Guitar Center. I've been waiting for this line of synths. I'm getting ALL of them

[@brianwredfern]

The 12 bit dac is a stroke of genius here

[@Answersonapostcard]

Yes. Not enough people are talking about it. I think few people know what a DAC is let alone what it does. The end result should always be analogue, as speakers are analogue and so are our ears.

[@Jason75913]

​@@Answersonapostcard without the analogue signal, we wouldn't be able to hear it to begin with, speakers can _only_ take analogue So what's the deal with the 12-bit DAC?

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@Jason75913 it converts digital to analogue for a less digital sound.

[@Jason75913]

@@Answersonapostcard So, without an analogue signal, we wouldn't be able to hear it to begin with, every digital synth has a DAC because speakers and headphones _only_ take an analogue signal. Digital doesn't work, and when speakers do take a digital signal, then they have their own (often lo-fi) DAC so they can produce sound because speakers _only_ take analogue. Is this "12-bit DAC" just some marketing junk like Sony with their "1-bit DACs" in their Discman CD players?

[@wonderwheel80s]

​@@Jason75913 I was wondering the same. No DAC, no sound, hardly a feature.

[@shotgunblossom]

I’m gonna collect all the minis and micros

[@VJFranzK]

I dreamed of a JP8000, but bought a Mac desktop instead! Now, nothing would need be left out.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

My JP had the glue keys issue so I sold it, if this can do the super saw well, I will pick one up. My recommendation for an easy synth for Behringer to make that would be a hit would be a Prodigy.

[@aiekmeeisnhdye]

absolutely

[@thesynthfloyd]

Here in Brazil we name these micro synths as The Behringer Cupcakes

[@tonysharp1615]

Immediately ordered. Thank you Behringer; keep them coming!

[@Fabian_drop02]

Where did you order it from? I don't see it available anywhere.

[@tonysharp1615]

@@Fabian_drop02 Hi. I’m in the U.K. it’s on preorder at Anderton’s Music. Good luck. 😃👍🏻👍🏻

[@Fabian_drop02]

@@tonysharp1615 thank you! 👍

[@LoserDub]

Your on fire behringer, i know you got some more awesomeness soon to come

[@Dougie-]

As cool as it looks I don't see why people want these kinds of synths. The advantage of hardware is the hands on interface. This, to me, has only the drawbacks 🤷‍♂ Can't do sound design with 6 buttons and 2 knobs.

[@MarkusAudio]

You can't have everything they say. Line-in for filtering delight would make it truly full-fledged 😊 Can't refuse the portable factor and my love for mini gear ❤❤

[@ph911]

This is great! Should we wait for the full version of JT-8000?

[@natbvm1880]

My friends are gonna be getting some of these this Christmas 🎅🏻

[@dianamiino7391]

Veeeery nice, but the Pro VS mini seems way more juicy to me. Waiting... ❤️

[@HatredPrime]

Why not buy both?

[@dianamiino7391]

@@HatredPrime mmmmhh you're right, why not? 😀

[@SEFFOfficial]

Was also Ferry Corsten’s absolute staple for all of his big classic tunes ❤

[@lordrealm]

Trance Legend 🙏🔥🔥

[@Jason75913]

Might still be, I've seen in a video that Giuseppe Ottaviani is a JP-8k lover and has one.

[@MrPhillee1982]

Love the sound but why o why mini? These sounds deserve better controls!

[@indegruv]

Because it's a cash grab

[@Answersonapostcard]

Portability and price

[@indegruv]

@@Answersonapostcard yeah you're probably gonna make a hit song on a bus lol

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@indegruv lots of people on KZbin making music on portable synths.

[@indegruv]

@@Answersonapostcard you paying to download their songs bro?

[@harmlesscreationsofthegree1248]

Amazing, I want one. Something that turns that monster into a micro module is special indeed 👌🏽

[@glenesis]

No batteries and no speaker? Why? What goid is it if it fits in your ocket if you can't just ull it out nd play it anyplace at all?

[@Andronicus2007]

So this is 4 digital voices through one analog filter? So kind of paraphonic? It actually sounds really good anyway.

[@ilovecatsandsynths9702]

I asked the same question. The size, price and spec sheet would indicate paraphonic, but that last demo would seem to indicate otherwise. Unless they multi tracked that demo, which is misleading.

[@inthefade]

Yes that is my first question. I don't really mind paraphonic because I have other fully poly VA synths ,and it is a sound I enjoy anyway, but I'm curious. I think it MUST be paraphonic or they would have mentioned that the analog filter was poly as a selling point, and I doubt 4 filters could be fit into this form factor.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Really liking this one!! Definitely coming into the studio.

[@EarJuice]

I loved muh JP8080 rack synth. It had a vocoder that could use on board sound and input.

[@sjaool]

So the keyboard on the JT-4000 Micro is totally unusable? Strange demo.

[@217tws]

They really said “f*ck korg and their volcas we can do better and cheaper”

[@johnsuggs7828]

Put the swing in the video and everything. Behringer is straight savage. I like it lol

[@RobertFisher1969]

I want to be excited about this. But the more I think about it, the more I feel like buying the necessary dongle or two to hook a MIDI keyboard and headphones to a smartphone-for anyone who already has a smartphone-would be a better investment. Even the physical controls-being as limited as they are here-don’t seem to offer much over a touchscreen.

[@ACIDis...]

Hope they bring out a module version without keys for this one ;-)

[@BrokenArrowSchoolofModernMusic]

Love the exercise video. It’s not weird. It’s perfect glam trance

[@ct6929]

All marketing team needs to do is keep up the good work :)

[@streglof]

Sounds very promising but let's hear some Push and Ferry Corsten style trance riffs now

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

Come on guys, you are costing me a fortune with all this new Mini/Micro Tech you are bringing out. Things like this are a dream to the many people with little room and is a great way to get that big synth sound on a budget.

[@SpaceboyUniverse]

Been waiting for over a year for this thing! When does it go on sale?????

[@plantpoweredmuscle]

“Expandable memory via the app” So does that mean we have to keep our phone connected to this in order to play any additional presets or can the original presets be copied over or is there additional memory to save more and not have to keep the phone connected?

[@plantpoweredmuscle]

Any word yet?

[@rorz999]

Any update on the Hirotribe?

[@dharmaone77]

Sounds great

[@rexcellencemagee6729]

Yay caught em when they had em! It’s on the way!

[@nineeast8730]

That opening track is GOLD 🥂

[@abcd0123]

How can I buy it? I'd like to buy it. But it is sold out at all shops...

[@jonnyhead]

So I presume the power input/midi combo if it's connected by midi to another device that will give it power also? Because otherwise how do you get the power if its midi connected to another device

[@DerrickMayFan]

This is sick! Hopefully someone can make a controller plug in for this

[@ericMT]

Yeah it would be nice if there was a MIDI USB controller that could plug right into USB only MIDI devices like this.

[@cnfuzz]

If you buy two you get the spanner to control it for free , there will also be a version released that runs of a floppy.

[@cjlewis79]

Haha that intro was awesome!

[@OscillatorCollective]

Damon‼️🤯…that sounds good!

[@SpeccyMan]

Just ordered one of these from Andertons now that they finally have them back in stock. 👍

[@drstupid1]

I refuse to buy a synth if it's bigger than my teaspoon!! Luckily this one passes that test and so it shall be mine 😂. Very cool sound too so I'll be even happier

[@speakingcolors]

Controllable via CC midi is cool, but could I then assign the menu controls to the knobs on my midi controller so I'm not constantly menu diving to configure patches?

[@EricBlair-jg2ux]

yes, he says it in the video

[@speakingcolors]

​@@EricBlair-jg2uxThe only thing he says is "all parameters are controllable via Midi CC", he doesn't talk about a Midi Editor neither how to have your controller Knobs be assigned a precise CC. My idea is if I could make a controller have a preset for when its on midi channel 5, that its knobs and faders controls the waveforms, volumes, filters, adsr, lfos, etc so that I can tweak it like all controls have their own knobs, rather than menu dive, all while I'm still in my DAW. I was maybe too sleepy last night or it's maybe cuz I just wake up, but I fail to see how I'm gonna make such a template from my DAW if the JT don't have it's own Editor?

[@EricBlair-jg2ux]

@@speakingcolors Pause the video when the chart comes up, you see all midi controllers, all you have to do is assign your midi controller to that CC value and it will control that parameter, you can control the entire functions of the synth this way, you don't need an editor, either use the daw to map 'auto assign' or use your controllers editor to set the desired cc value.

[@speakingcolors]

@@EricBlair-jg2ux Thank you Eric 🙏 It's pre-ordered. If need be, I might look into making myself a VST editor for it. Shouldn't be too difficult if it only need some CC parameters and being a VST.

[@TiberianFiend]

I was looking forward to getting a supersaw in a box for $50, but hearing it, I now worry the analog filter will muddy the sound and we can't get a nice sharp supersaw out of it.

[@Jason75913]

"sharp" *clear

[@mattwebster6046]

Absolutely love it

[@Drygon52]

No MIDI port, that is a deal breaker. Even 3.5 mini jack ports would have been alright.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

yea, weird the way they went but I think they figured more people would be hooking up to a PC than a keyboard....but not you or I obviously

[@Mgm_Designs]

It has a MIDI IN right on the top!

[@infn8loopmusic]

Right? This would have perfect to with all my other little synths but no midi? Come on

[@TheKiller1922]

I think you can use usb to midi adapter for it pretty easily. bit more cumbersome but still compact.

[@ilovecatsandsynths9702]

The problem with USB is you have to connect a USB device to a USB host, while with standard DIN or TRS midi you can connect device to device. So unless your midi controller can be a USB host and provide power, you’d need a 3rd device (computer or other USB host device) to connect a controller to the synth. They managed to fit a DIN MIDI port on the Pro VS, but no room for even a TRS port on this one?

[@dicefall9]

It sounds pretty good, they should consider making a small keyboard version of this, lets say the size of their MS-1 with full size keys and real knobs using the same sound engine, I'd buy one for sure.

[@TheKiller1922]

An external controller with semi-weighted keys would work way better imho. MS-1 keys are mediocre compared to, say, Yamaha or Fatar.

[@bcastromusic]

does it have the gritty delay w/ feedback? can't have a JP-8000/8080 without the internal delay. it's an integral part of many of the sounds. It's also not exactly easy to replicate w/ external hardware/software even though it's a simple delay.

[@AnalogFlava]

Seems like no supersaw either so all in all not really a replica if this is the case, just more analog 80s synth which is ok but it aint a 90s synth then. Btw, it was a VA synth so not sure why this here is analog?

[@ramseydoon8277]

5:16 ok, that sold me. Goddammit Behringer. You got me. You bloody sorcerers got me. With a single note. Good work, folks. Bravo!

[@nexuzeb79]

How is that midi keyboard connected to the device and what's powering both devices? USB hub?

[@ilovecatsandsynths9702]

Probably a laptop off screen, running a DAW to route the USB midi from the keyboard to the synth.

[@nexuzeb79]

i hope it at least comes with a fitting usb cable.. I'm getting it no matter what..

[@chrisschwaab]

Great idea - but the jp8000 is famous for trance supersaw sounds. Why don`t you show these in the demo? The demo is very "sensless" imo

[@alkimball8920]

I may get one... but I own a JP-8000 and love it.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Would love to see a comparison between the two.

[@Covid--we4ql]

Please, make a eurorack version of this, like ProVS/Victor.

[@FatSynthDude]

I second this. I'd love a twelve bit supersaw in my rack.

[@zoundsic]

JT 8080 rack with wifi editor, I'd buy that

[@jonez110]

Smells like AudioPilz in here!1

[@gaborb6577]

Ja Liebe Marketingabteilung, 1 Stück gleich nach Wien spedieren.🎉

[@lvzakal]

@@gaborb6577Behringer spedieren gar nix. dazu gabs doch gerade erst vor ein paar Tagen ein offizielles Statement hier :)

[@princepaul5557]

Really Behringer another micro synth? Who are you making these for?

[@rickyspanish8379]

Bedroom producers and hobby musicians

[@clemenslangenberger4791]

Very nice, full size please. Or at least a larger desktop/rack device.

[@HoYinLau-b8o]

Best Behringer intro