Being Human | Daniel Lieberman | Born and Evolved to Run

[@Jefferdaughter]

On early hunting strategies - There is at least one traditional example of an early technique that still survives: the chaccu of the altiplano region of the Andes. Every man, woman, child, and babe in arms participates. They spread out over a wide area and making a lot of noise they gradually drive herds of wild vicuna (the ancestor of the domestic alpaca) into ancient stone corrals. As the herd gets closer to the stone enclosures, the people are closer together, and hold lon ropes with cloth flags on them that prevents the vicuna, a shy animal, from trying to dash between the people to freedom. This is apparently how early humans hunted large game, working together to drive them over cliffs where they crashed to their deaths, or were injured badly enough that they were easy to finish off. Herd animals can be driven together fairly easily, while singling out an animal is very difficult. (Some say ;the masses' are easier to influence as a whole, over influencing people individually.) A few were traditionally harvested for food, surplus males, but the main purpose of the chaccu is to shear the fleeces. Afterward the vicuna are released unharmed. This tradition continues today, though the vicuna were nearly wiped out by Europeans, shooting them to catch them for their extremely valuable fleece, which is the most valuable commercially marketed fiber in the world. European settlers also killed native herbivores 'to make room' for their 'superior' livestock. In addition to removing the animal that some Indian (from ' a people 'en Dios' ') tribes depended on for all or nearly all their food, thus diminishing their numbers and making it easier to subdue the rest so their land could be stolen - the American bison was shot nearly to extinction to 'make room' for domestic cattle. It is likely that the plains could have easily supported both species, just as wildebeast, zebra, and gazelle all graze the same land in Africa. The jkey is the movement of the herds.

[@drbobperkins]

he's a very good lecturer. He is very listenable and unpretentious

[@garygech]

His book "Exercised" is very good, fun to listen to his ideas. Also, very well organized.

[@TheRealBuckNorris]

This deserves hundreds of thousands of views!

[@colonyofcellsiamamachine6175]

Learned a lot about how to run safely. better to land on the ball rather than the heel of the foot.

[@johnfadds6089]

Midfoot landing (right under you) is the best if you want to do seriously long runs. Save the forefoot for sprinting.

[@Powsimian]

Midfoot is the most sustainable. It provides more knee cushion while minimizing calf fatigue. It utilizes the tendons the best.

[@Rafas216]

@@Powsimian meio do pé? Você pisa com o pé inteiro ou com as pontas...não é possível pisar com o meio do pé.

[@garygech]

A very thoughtful presentation. Fun to listen to his approach to research and presentation.

[@laimmcgimny8871]

Great lecture. However the audio at the end Q&A section will make you crazy.

[@bobbieblue1885]

Loved it' very interesting!

[@365daysofpool]

I thought the 172 average frequency efficiency for running was informative. Can anyone direct me to similar info on walking efficiency?

[@martinirving3824]

"The average American eats breakfast from a box which, when you think about it, is a really strange thing." Yeah. Particularly when you consider that ancestral humans probably didn't eat breakfast at all. Modern humans do really strange things. Money and marketing makes us do it.

[@jamesnguyen7069]

u mean being practical...

[@Rafas216]

Engraçado, seres humanos são mais sensíveis à insulina na manhã, indicando que é o melhor horário para comer. Nas blue zones comem um grande breakfast e um jantar pequeno. Devem estar errados, o correto é você haha

[@Jefferdaughter]

It seems far more likely that humans evolved to do a lot of walking, with some running interspersed. A lot of people run marathons; many more run much shorter distances though they are often called 'marathons'. Havn't listened to the whole thing yet, so I am not sure if he mentions 'runner's high' experienced by those who push themselves to continue after 'hitting the wall'. The wall is apparently when people run out of carbs to fuel the run. The 'high' seems to be when the body is producing and running on ketones instead.

[@oscarstenberg2745]

Our anatomy is definitely designed to run, not just walk

[@iamron993]

Our arses activate effectively when we run, not when we walk

[@jeffreybermudez3956]

@@oscarstenberg2745 How would you go about making our culture more hospitable for the human body?

[@tapatapaz]

this was great

[@amritpalsidhu6454]

When i chase buffalo or cattle out of my farm i can't beat them in endurance and not even my dog . I always exhaust before these animals .

[@EnriqueCubillo]

XC skiing is a simple biomechanical movement set that delivers strength, endurance plus balance. Running offers no balance development. SpikeBoarding is a very casual and fun way to XC ski.

[@lornadoell]

I'm calling you on running not needing balance. I tore my rotator cuff when my horse rolled over top of me in a fall. When I went to run on the trails that week, I had to quit after nearly falling 3 times. I couldn't balance with that torn cuff.

[@EnriqueCubillo]

@@lornadoell It takes balance to walk. It takes balance to ride a bike. If you are content with that level of daily balance practice compared to skating, skiing, Olympic C1-K1 paddling, or SUP paddling then keep running. By all means. Humans are born with the raw mechanical foundation to speak when they hear language. However they must be taught to read and they must practice writing. If all you do is run, your balance is about as developed as if you did not read and write and only were able to speak. Humans are born with the ability to reach much higher states of balance practice mixed along side strength and endurance. One cannot "call" me or anyone else out on any of what I have just said. I'm not judging anyone. Biomechanics is not a judgment. All of it can be measured. Socially speaking, American ritual traditions of biomechanics including strength, endurance plus balance all executed at once are rare. The highest forms of practice, I will repeat, on water, are Olympic C1 and K1. On land they are classic, skate and SpikeBoarding skiing. I have nothing further to say on the matter. We are all born with balance how far we care to develop it is everyone personal choice.

[@Jefferdaughter]

It should be noted that early human reproductive intervals were certainly loner than seen in 'domesticated' humans Without the fattening effect of grains, and without the hormone-mimicing substances found in many plants later grown by farming cultures, it is likely that lactation suppressed ovulation, as is (was?) observed in people still eating their traditional diets. As 'civilization' advances, grain-fed women produced more offspring, which rulers wanted for labor and/or for armies. 'Paleopathology and the Origins of the Paleo Diet', a talk by Dr. Michael Eades, examines the4 research on how diet affected the development and health of early humans who ate plant-based vs animal-based diets. The effects of grain on the ancient Egyptians is startling, as revealed by examination of the mummies using current technology. Available on KZbin.

[@oscarstenberg2745]

Is it really a question of "plant-based vs animal-based"?

[@mononix5224]

@@oscarstenberg2745 I highly doubt that, I think it is more reasonable to make a separation between a foraging and agricultural diet.

[@Viriyascybin]

Any social carnivore humans in chat LULW?

[@stacymitchell1890]

46:43 posture

[@turbojav]

Why couldn't an animal sprint a good distance away, pant & rest, then when the human gets close, sprint again and then rest again?

[@DimaXer88]

That's exactly how it worked but the animal can't sprint and rest an infinite amount of times because lactic acid builds up in its muscles. Eventually the animal won't be able to sprint anymore and the human catches up for good.

[@turbojav]

So even with intermittent rest the animal fatigues.

[@lornadoell]

What if I dug a hole and ran them into it, or put some vines together and got a few tangled into it. There would be no evidence of this technique. Just a couple alternatives.

[@SasukeUchiha-ps4yn]

heelstrike is bad. Forefoot strike is best.

[@immers2410]

Forefoot strike requires strong Achilles’ tendon

[@yaesmucho]

I liked it without even watching it, I better dislike and hear what he's got to say. 5 hours of TV haha

[@davetaitt1528]

Throwing. We are expert throwers, in regards to evolution and hunting. We throw stones. Spears were just stones with an extension on it, much like the ax was just a stone with an extension. Our vision became extended as well and hunting became a prediction. Then we started running for the chase.

[@seancarroll2896]

No, we ran before we started to use tools

[@davetaitt1528]

@@seancarroll2896 how do you know? Did we throw because we ran or did we run because we could throw? You seem so sure. Perhaps throwing came about because of mating pressure. The badass baboon was one with the biggest stone. I'm not saying we came from baboons, but I'm sure you get my point. I think throwing extended our capacity to see out into the future, predict. Predictability was a new form of consciousness. Sure, other creatures that predict, but we do it in many different modalities and time abstraction.

[@davetaitt1528]

I was being specific to throwing and the pressures of our ancestors to run far, not just the use of tools. Chimps throw shit. Also, the use of tools. Tools are crafted, and are not just an object from the earth that's being utilized for food. Chimps utilize objects, humans invent new ones. Throwing seems more like a "beneficial accident," that perhaps started in mating "ritual" and "war," because after all, there were other kinds of "chimps.". By the time our ancestors were crafting Spears and ax, they were already running long distances and expert throwers. Of course, running super long distances had profound biological effects that pressured our evolution farther, faster, perhaps allowed our vision to expand even more. We invent stuff. But, We are specifically adapted to throw particularly well though, so that clearly has some significant role in shaping our consciousness, mind, brain, as well. The ability to throw super well allowed us to abstract distances and abstract two points, unlike other predators, and eventually time. When we throw well, even just horsing around, we very much abstract space and time, and it starts by judging distance. I think we abstracted two points, we realized there was two points, by "eons" of throwing. Maybe running long distances and throwing co evolved, and the better one mode got , so did the other. I find it interesting that there's this lack of discussion around our ability to throw. I bring my children, 5 and 3, to the beach, and they throw rocks into the water for hours, having fun. There's a reason why they can do that, and there's a reason why they absolutely enjoyed themselves. It's as natural as running.

[@seancarroll2896]

@@davetaitt1528 im so sure because its a basic function of the body. Like saying which came first the computer or the brain.

[@davetaitt1528]

@@seancarroll2896 when you say computer, do you mean technology at large? It's an interesting response. Technology is our ability to abstract good and evil. Idk what you mean by brain. The human brain is bifurcated.

[@brianbadonde8700]

this Simpsons character is right

[@dorawang5451]

no way, I am not long distance runner

[@magnetmountain33]

Look I hate to say this and no offence I am a learning disability sufferer I have dyslexia and attention deficit disorder so I to sometimes would prefer people to speak through certain subjects slightly more slowly however you don’t stop someone two seconds into speaking and moan about the speed at which they speak you press record on your phone and then play it back at a slower speed later what is wrong with some ladies these days thinking that they can get away with this? How unbelievably self-absorbed can someone be can you believe I had the same sort of thing at a cashpoint the other day the lady who saw me struggling on crutches to stand and wait my turn in the queue who was sat in her car and decided to jump out of a car and shove away into the queue in front of me claiming she had been queueing but because it might rain she was sat in the car waiting and I should’ve acknowledged her ??? Yes of course being a gentleman I was at fault for not having realised that she was sitting in her BMW whilst also queueing anonymously and without queueing😮 j- Zeus !!!

[@epicureandisipline820]

A horse gets tired after running two miles 🤣 at a slower pace it can go for 20 miles not even one marathon 🤣

[@johnfadds6089]

I would put my money on the horse any day, unless it's a seriously hot day.

[@IanMorav]

Sorry to say, but persistence hunting on early hominins is a myth, I also embraced this theory, BUT. Humans, are the best runners in the animal kingdom, some Africans tribes practice persistence hunting Nevertheless, humans ARE born to run (in other way, not on persistent hunting)

[@Arthurnate]

Would you be able to explain what we actually did run for?

[@Warvideos401]

Oh god. For that girl sorry but i have to give dislike :/ i dont like those people

[@therion5458]

The endurance running/hunting theory is not only stupid, it has been debunked by archeological evidence.

[@randomgeneratedname1264]

Could you cite that evidence? I'm not arguing, just want to know where to find that.

[@michaeldean5787]

Yes please, I'd also like to know where to find that info. Thank you!

[@cynthiashepherd7754]

This is the only theory I have seen so I would be interested if it has been debunked also.

[@terrywilder9]

So says one person!

[@JB-hq9yj]

Yes this lecturer from Harvard seems very stupid. Thank you for your researched and cited profound insight “Therion.” Though I think I’ll keep watching the video...

[@kushmanly]

why human beings are born? If someone has created us, why he created us? Please Daneil answer me......

[@Metacognition88]

Stfu

[@Rafas216]

Você nasceu para jogar vídeo games e beber Coca-Cola. Vá cumprir sua missão!

[@LoraWatkins-c1x]

Throwing. We are expert throwers, in regards to evolution and hunting. We throw stones. Spears were just stones with an extension on it, much like the ax was just a stone with an extension. Our vision became extended as well and hunting became a prediction. Then we started running for the chase.

[@Onlylove994]

@@LoraWatkins-c1x throwers. I thought u r taking about throwing garbage?😕Throwing experts…