Belichick Never Wanted to Draft Mac Jones? - Felger & Mazz

[@YOURGR8]

THEIR GIVING UP BECAUSE MAC JONES ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO PUT UP POINTS!!

[@roneastman4457]

Love the Pats. Always will. This is an amazing show, thanks. We desperately need a new QB. Don't know why we are waiting.

[@zerocool1884]

Would a new QB fix the line? Would he improve the wide receivers?

[@evrgrn7518]

@@zerocool1884 the receivers are not the problem. The problem is the receivers Bill insists upon using. They have potentially very good receivers in Douglas and Boutte.

[@1andOnlyKB]

Act like good quarterbacks grow on trees lol time to tank for a top 3 pick and grab a qb

[@thrawn5k]

QB will get crushed behind the lack of an online. No WRs, No skill positions talent at all. Also, the coaching is HORRIBLE. Flush everything.

[@sevenfights]

Mac Jones is immature. He hasn't grown into a NFL starting QB. Hes still a college kid. Time to move on.

[@UpChuckTheBoogie]

​@@basdfef4775That must be why he stinks

[@gh4707]

Can’t lead men when your not a grown man

[@UpChuckTheBoogie]

@@gh4707 He sucks he has no arm can't throw in wind rain or any type of bad weather he needs to go

[@sevenfights]

@basdfef4775 good point! Tua is a beast now. He found his groove.

[@SuperArc13]

The QB is the leader of the team. Once he quits, they all quit. Tom Brady, and all great QBs, elevate and motivate the ENTIRE team, not just the offense. Brasy madr the defense and special tesms play better as well. Everyone believed in him and wanted to win for him. Born leader who makes Everyone better. Jones is a ZERO across the board

[@donywahlberg]

Defense played pretty well into the 4th quarter of the Saints game, having their own mini "get right" week. Every drive that started in average NFL field position, behind the Saints 30yd line, they stopped them and forced a punt. 7/7 on those drives. Every score came from a LOS for NO that was at their own 38 or better with 3 specifically being in NE territory leading to 13pts.

[@randomflagg7331]

perhaps mac should had kept his mouth shut instead of making fun of patricia. Now, he's crying like a little baby. Unreal. this isn't bills fault. h's a superbowl winer! give bill a break

[@darcyvariava81]

💯

[@DV-id6di]

BB is a bargain hunter. It has cost us. ❤. Go Pats!❤

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Not his money

[@donaldkennedy4235]

The bargain hunter is the owner. Bills not paying them. The Pats have been down at the bottom of spending for years. They are worth 5 Billion $$$$$$. !!!

[@mfsports1368]

I think Kraft is the cheap one

[@spod7575]

It all lays at the feet of Bill. Incompetent decisions. personal, drafting, team construction malpractice. 4 seasons we have all pointed out O line WR. And still hasn't addressed these.. Offensive Head Coach needed..

[@j.m.5744]

You don't have the success he had and then just forget to coach. It's on the players on the field who are not playing up to the level they should be.

[@thomasspengler9044]

@@basdfef4775but that’s part of the problem. Belichick is still building teams like he has Tom Brady at quarterback. You can’t underpay talent and reach for guys in the draft and make it work when you don’t have Brady

[@Warum.2439]

Some great takes here. Mac is Kraft’s guy so Bill is leaving him in just to show Kraft up on how wrong he was😂

[@geraldineyarborough9496]

Yeah, but Bill is the one that DRAFTED Mac Jones!

[@peemitch630]

@@geraldineyarborough9496 under orders from kraft! you know the owner of the team!!

[@Warum.2439]

@@geraldineyarborough9496 Kraft tells him to draft Jones. Bill gonna say what, “nah fuck off Kraft”?

[@Warum.2439]

@@basdfef4775 he can believe both. Defensive guy thinks his defense can carry. The problem is they need offense and his QB isn’t enough of a leader to carry the offense despite his attempts. If he tries to switch him out, would Kraft be okay with Mac on the bench? No.

[@geraldineyarborough9496]

@@Warum.2439 Oh now Kraft told Belicheck to draft Mac Jones!😂

[@nickphinney1719]

Belichick has complete control over this organization. If he didn’t want Mac, he wouldn’t have taken Mac.

[@cityofthechamps6242]

Idc if he wanted Mac back then. My question is 3 years later why the fck would he want him NOW?! He is terrible. You know who else Belichick wanted? Thats right ..BAILEY ZAPPE ⚡️⚡️⚡️🤣 lfg zappe its time

[@evrgrn7518]

Not true. Bill looked at Kraft before making the pick and asked, "are you sure?"..... Kraft picked Mac Jones. Kraft might have even made Bill sit Zappe back down a year ago.

[@stephanea5364]

Proof?@@evrgrn7518

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@evrgrn7518 facts

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

​@@evrgrn7518I do recall gin asking groh are you sure

[@georgen5882]

Somewhere on a sandy beach, sitting in the sun and drinking a drink like the nectar of the gods, there is a man. Let's call him "Dom Crady" to protect the lives of the innocent. On this beach sits Dom, taking a sip of his wonderful drink, slowly nodding his head as he utters one phrase: "I told you it was me this whole time." A smile escapes his lips as he sits back and counts to 7, as he so often does. It's going to be a good night for Dom.

[@MJ-gw2zu]

And behind your lousy, not interesting, or funny story, is the truth of billionaire owners(kings) using their coaches/coordinators (queens) on the chess board to sell the pawns/players better.

[@Kane-ez]

Bill is the fall guy for kraft being cheap

[@dyzzyleaks5551]

belichick IS the gm. he’s the cheap one Brian. If only u watched football 😕

[@Kane-ez]

@@dyzzyleaks5551 kraft is owner do you not understand business follow the money fool

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Exactly lol

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@dyzzyleaks5551 gm does not decide the budget. Owner can give a range to spend on genius.

[@dyzzyleaks5551]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 belichick does do the budget he does all of that Kraft literally just owns the team bill do everything else. U don’t watch ball quite clearly so hop off KZbin n go to bed lil boi

[@frankiwilliams8620]

Sorry, I blame this 100% on Bill. First he run's Tom out b'c he has this absurd notion he (Bill) is behind the success of the team...LOL. Gronk then leaves as well. Next, he picks up Jones in the draft, Mac had an INCREDIBLE rookie season, simply stunning IMO. He had a competent QB coach/Offensive coach. However, still, he has NO weapons on the team, no real #1 wideout that can stretch the field. Most folks don't believe it but I feel Mac has that ability to put the ball down the field based on previous plays I've seen. Year 2, Bill saddles this kid, fresh off a break out stat defining season w/the 2 worst individuals he can find b'c he (Bill....is clueless), so now we have a season of regression by Jones, once again, no weapons and now he's got confidence issues w/the antics of BB playing the Benching Game. Hell, you could stick Mahomes or Jackson beind that O line and 79% of the plays would be QB runs out of a necessity in order NOT to take a sack b'c you dont have decent receivers who can get separation on a consistent basis and a line that crumbles faster than a 80lb kid trying to bench his own weight. I can't speak on the "dirty plays", I looked again and again at the Carolina game and the Jets game a few weeks back. Why was Mosely not flagged for slamming him AFTER the whistle called? Why did Gardner feel the need to run over there to begin with, I'm having to guess an this is just me, to add fuel to the fire. With the camera angles you couldn't see what clearly happened, however, if...IF Mac did clock him in the nuts as hard as Gardner claims....he sure af didn't show any sign of discomfort. BB needs to go, his ego is dragging this team down, it's all but destroyed any confidence Jones had in himself and as far as beating the win record? LOL..."Fahgetaboutit"..... Take a play from McDaniels. He has surrounded Tua w/talent out the wazoo, Tua knows he has options and the offense doesn't rest squarely on his shoulders, Miami has a decent Oline as well, so he has time set his feet and make quick throws, or time to put it downfield to one of the 2 fastest wideouts in the NFL. Bill lucked out w/Brady and while yes, defensively he schemed very well, defense without an offense is just dragging out a loosing season.

[@bailey123198]

Bingo "they've lost respect and confidence in each other". Pull the plug on Belichick ASAP!!

[@GonzoDuke]

When your Brady in decline show becomes Let's run Bill out of town show.

[@bailey123198]

His press conferences confirm he is child and insecure. It's not cool to treat people the way he does. Get's old.

[@chrish2112]

It is 100 percent false that Bill didn't want to draft Mac. Bill makes the player personnel decisions. Period.

[@connierobinson2053]

Does the defense get any blame here?

[@brianshaughnessy4020]

Absolutely. The missed tackles were ridiculous and Carr could have taken ten seconds to throw on most of his drop-backs.

[@thrawn5k]

Who cares if he didn't want Mac Jones. He didn't want Brady, sent him packing. Then neglected drafting a replacement for YEARS! Then was forced to draft a QB when he fell to 15.

[@marcusjames659]

Should have kept Cam. Cam won 7 games with no WRs, no line, a def that couldn't stop run, a week to learn the system and catching Covid. Yet, they call Cam washed. Well if he's washed what is Jones?

[@Therantguyyeazy]

Im a pats fan people forget we could of took Jalen Hurts we took Duggar who is decent ptetty good on defense but still

[@patrickr2691]

Weeks 1-5 p[er PFF: Patriots wide receivers averaged the least amount of separation on targets in the NFL (3.1 yards) The offensive line has a pass block win rate of 39.7%, the worst in the NFL They have, literally, the worst individually performing OL and worst WR groups in football. Why are we talking about the QB at all? Good grief do these conversations miss the big picture by a mile.

[@georgen5882]

I've said the same thing also. But there is always a fall guy, and do we really believe it will be Bill this time? The argument about whether or not he is the guy is valid. But you can't discount the fact that he has had three offensive coordinators in three years, has mediocre receivers at best, a horrid offensive line, and a coach who hates him. If you plug every other QB into this system how many thrive? Maybe Mahomes and Allen, one or two others at most. The team is where they are right now solely because of Belichick, no one else. He is the coach and GM. he put this team together. Four years later they have no identity and have not progressed even a little(outside of getting smashed in the one playoff game two years ago at the hands of the Bills). I am ok if they do a full rebuild at this point.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Not giving up a lot of sacks. All that matters. Those stats u just Said are for analytic losers who never played football. Nerds. He is not getting sacked much He SUCKS

[@Jessdogg-j1i]

Dude that's so true the media doesn't talk about it cuz it's not sexy and then the sheep the fanbase eat it up because they're idiots it's obviously the team blows the defense coach and run game protection receivers everything sucks but the only want to talk about the q because that's what sells

[@Jack-ms3so]

Felger is a slippery eel who talks from both sides of his mouth. I think it’s offensive line, the line isn’t that bad, they have got starters back. The offensive line coaches are a problem.

[@TheChubbyd07]

Bill made the call to bench Butler, made the call to let Brady go, and made the call to draft bottom of the barrel players. Nothing will change until he’s gone.

[@adamnoce4172]

That locker room must be so negative right now.

[@Lucky13Twice]

Belichick wanted Mac as Nick Saban had told him he was the best QB he had ever coached, so Belichick bought in. Shows you why Saban cannot coach in the NFL, has no idea what makes a great NFL QB.

[@skevincampbell]

This! Times 10,000.

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

I'm cracking up that is so funny the microphones😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I think Steve grogan should come out of retirement he's my favorite all-time patriot 👍👍👍😂😂

[@knowsmebyname]

Bill said before "a lot of other teams were taping signals" and that likely is part of his problem. Well only one of those teams had so many enemies and had won 3 super bowls. He should have known he would be a target. That they had to be doing things cleaner.

[@jacksmith8002]

worst O-Line and worst WR group, just what is Mac suppose to do (and I'm not saying he's the answer)

[@jayy88]

Felger a month ago “Mac is good and the team is good” What an awful take

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

Tom Brady fixed all Bill belichick's mistakes through the years 😮😂😊👍

[@jimcope9417]

What QB would want to come to the Pats ? No one !!

[@masonripton2574]

Tank for Caleb let’s goooo

[@MindExcursionMedia]

Here's the problem....there's a million reports out there saying that he'll just go back to USC if he doesn't get the right team at the #1 pick....if Caleb gets BB who ruined Mac Jones after 3 years you think he'll come here if the Pats get the #1 pick (and Kraft being notorious for cheating out on never paying for Free Agents/skill players)? NO way....

[@earthpart3]

i was laughing when they punted. i think he was punishing the team for being trash on 3rd and 4th down

[@Eggy79]

It doesn't matter, because he hasn't gotten anywhere near the most out of Mac that he could have. Trust me, I am captain of the Mac Jones Hater Club so I'm not defending him but it's just a fact that BB is supposed to be the greatest coach of all time and yet no offensive players he ever has have improved. Name one offensive player who was better after getting drafted by the Pats? Julian Edelman? There haven't been a ton of those examples on the defensive side either. Lack of talent alone, players don't even get better and don't reach anywhere near their potential here and that's just a hallmark of Bill's bad coaching.

[@Jessdogg-j1i]

Listen everybody Max not the problem he was good as rookie year he didn't suddenly stopped know how to play QB he's got no weapons no run game no protection bad coaching but the media is going to look at the quarterback cuz that's what sells they're not going to talk about how bad the defense is was special teams because it's not sexy blaming the quarterback is what sells if I will Mac I would want to get traded out of here so I can fall out on a real team with a real offense and show all these fan base and its media that they suck

[@MrKingmel]

Let's not overlook that both the kicker and punter suck 😂 and folk is having a great season so far.

[@mtadams2009]

Bill told you and the team what he thought of them in the first game. Going for it on fourth down with over eight minutes to go in the fourth. If they kick to the field goal, they have of chance to win in the end. Take the points Bill. I actually could not believe he went for it. He told his offense what he thought of them. If he had Brady he would have taken the points. Tom was so good, he made winning look easy. Bill is now learning how difficult winning truly is. Tom was the Patriot way not Bill.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

How did Pats get Tom?

[@mtadams2009]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 Luck

[@pedrohippocaus8488]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 Bill actually put his ego to the side and listened to Dick Rehbein,the man who scouted Tom and convinced Bill to draft him.

[@d00rs71]

Mac worst QB in the NFL he has no arm lol its bad

[@KhairalDin-k8h]

I can agree with much of what is said, but I have question the intellectual honesty when they bring up the football inflation nonsense. When you have everyone from Junior High School students to MIT physicists proving without question that there was nothing going on there (especially when you look at the pressures in the Colts' footballs), to bring it up now is sheer stupidity. Add to that the whole incident with Gardner, and yeah, that's moronic. It doesn't negate legitimate concerns and criticisms that are leveled, but bringing up childish stuff in a childish rant is...well, it's childish. About the QB, the "you must change the QB" comment makes no sense, especially when you follow it up with Zappe didn't do well either. In the end, it's irrelevant who is in at QB - if the O-Line is the worst in the league, that's what happens, the QB can't do the job. Nor the RB's, I hasten to add. Why is no one ripping on them? Is the QB "broken"? Maybe. To some extent, yes. It is over, is there no hope for him? Jury's still out on that. But if he's broken, I'd say the responsibility lies at the feet of the HC and the GM.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Zappe is 2-0 starting in the nfl. Like it or not facts. Zappe came in games 4th quarter them down 30. We cant judge Zappe past what we seen. Mac sucks. You roll with Zappe for a bit. Its no big deal

[@KuduraFletcher]

Zappe can put up more than 0 points with that same offensive line and receivers

[@CopelandD]

It’s Mac if u put Burrow Herbert or any other good qb they will have the Pats at least 3-2 or 4-1

[@Chaley93]

Bro they're literally making shit up on the fly and taking it as fact 😂

[@vitorpeck4458]

I wish the QB was the only problem. That OLine is a joke! One of the worst I've ever seen. They have to thank the Giants embarrassing performances on prime time to not be considered the worst of the league. Because if the problem is Mac being an asshole, Ramondre must be a jerk too, because they can't block for him either.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

You dont know football.

[@vitorpeck4458]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 Yeah. The OLine is awesome and I'm blind.

[@anthonyyusef5897]

They're are a lot of bad OL in this league. The pats line is not good average on a good day. If the qb was better the line would look better Ive been a Mac supporter but his is not talented enough to be top level qb in this league. Its starts there

[@vitorpeck4458]

@@anthonyyusef5897 I don't care about Mac Jones. He's being terrible. But this denial of the obvious about the O-Line is ludicrous! Even on the first games that were close he had no time to throw. He is pressured almost every damn snap. this is not normal. And for a pocket passer it's deadly. It's unbelievable that the franchise can't find a good OLine coach to replace Scarnecchia. The same thing happened in 14 and 15 without him and people forgot about it.

[@earthpart3]

bill's used to when they can't run the ball just having brady throw it 50-60 times to get the win. that's not an option anymore. can't run it? can't do anything on offense.

[@boyscout7277]

Crap Jones has to go!!!

[@TheMmaBoss]

7:18 long time Pats fan here in Vegas and lol😂 i am here for that! It was only the "NFL" microphone he did that to. Belichick has to go before setting the all time losses for coaches (active or in inactive). Look at his stats and how close he is to dan Reeves 💔

[@ferminchapa9856]

The first two games I think the games were a little competitive because the weather was bad.

[@pjayhall9925]

Bring in Cunningham!!!

[@foxpaw1]

The Pats suck. From players to coaches to scouts. Quit trying to pin it on ONE player. Tank. Fire Bill. Draft w an Offensive HC.

[@travelwithmanny6689]

Belichick is trying to play pocket passer football with a broken o line. He needs a scrambling QB until the line is fixed. The pats remind me of the 2019 UConn football team when they got torched by on average 23 points a game 😂. Ouch. Hope they figure it out but I am looking forward to a high draft pick 😅

[@Gerard30139]

Bill thought his system was plug and play and it's not.

[@lynskyrd]

I HATE agreeing with 'Fleger' but - well, Belichick got away with all his 'favoritism' with the defense because he had Brady to bail him out... not now.

[@jbloun911]

Billy B would try and save $$$ at the swap meet 😅

[@leethecomedian]

This doesn't even rank with Patriots lows lol and that's saying something Late 80s Drafting plunkett Super Bowl XX Rod Rust Dick McPherson etc... Not trying to hate, I get what you're saying ✌

[@jjgreen5206]

This is the most interesting implosion of all time. Bill has not adjusted and he still thinks he can use spygate tactics to beat teams but those tactics will only beat extremely inept teams. The Cowboys, Saints and Raiders have veteran, real quarterbacks who can read defenses

[@dyzzyleaks5551]

Yea cuz dak and jimmy g r “real” qbs and they can read defenses SOO well 😂😂💀

[@donywahlberg]

Felger is too funny man

[@jesseleblanc1199]

Have you ever thought that he could be looking for a better position in the draft .....as the afc east has some pretty good talent....its a big difference from doing the jobs that Bellichick does compared to sitting and criticizing the guy doing that job ......no matter what any other coach is doing they are not doing it to the degree of difficulty as Billaybe cut this guy some slack .....

[@dansullivan6825]

Brady made BB and now it’s back to the future starring Cleveland Bill.

[@garybird7474]

Mac was good his rookie year. Since then he has went down hill. Thats coaching. He hasnt had a chance since hes been there. Hate Mac or not. Hes been put in a shit show Belichick produced.

[@boyscout7277]

He’s not the most talented player in any ways. He’s just mediocre at best.

[@SuperArc13]

They are going to beat out their worst season ever by going 1-16 😂

[@Xoxabdbusb]

2-15. They’ll sweep the Jets 😂

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

At least you're 2 and 2 in there division😂

[@janesmith3123]

It is not Mac Jones

[@GonzoDuke]

It is Mac Jones

[@cityofthechamps6242]

your right its not mac jones as in he is not the guy. He will be the manager for whole foods before you know it.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

It is

[@Jessdogg-j1i]

Facts the team sux Mac just the fall guy

[@janesmith3123]

Mac Jones is horrible at New England. Bill B had destroyed him. Mac was the best quarterback Alabama ever had, including Hurts and Tia. You must not watch football. I loved Tom Brady and watched him for 23 yrs. Trade Mac and he will be successful. Ask Hurts, he has faith in Mac. You guys do not know everything. 2020 at Alabama 13-0 best season in Alabama history, Mac was the Quarterback. I wish Mac could go to another team.

[@user-jv8zj6nb6v]

If he leaves Mac out to dry he doing to every team member and himself and the man who pays for everything kraft shame bill

[@brianshaughnessy4020]

The sports media absolutely loves the Patriots' demise. They can milk this content for years. Even if the Pats somehow rebuild, reporters will still be reminding us of the last two games for years.

[@eggynyce]

Felger is right on it.

[@mr.4leafclova866]

THEY SHOULD'VE DRAFTED TREY LANCE🥴

[@rayjoseph3980]

Bill had his guy waiting. He made the right pick. Weather he’s “soft” or not. Jimmy G has the best winning %. Lmao & they barely got shit for him. It made Brady motivated but I don’t think Bill even knew Tom was gonna win at 38-40 42 yrs old. It was just to early but he coulda drafted a guy like Brock Purdy. 🤷‍♂️. & Bill saying hey Kraft. I told you. Young kids who don’t need the money don’t need the nfl to survive. Family comes from money & a former tennis player ? Lmao. It’s just a Johnny Mansziel without coke. I wanted Baker mayfield. Guaranteed they’d 3-2 with baker.

[@janesmith3123]

Mac Jones is very talented, look at him at Alabama, better than Tua and Hurts. If Mac was at a different team, he would be great.

[@patriotsdynasty4866]

Go away Karen

[@dyzzyleaks5551]

never been better than Tua OR hurts u don’t know ball Jane don’t gotta act like it get off KZbin and go to bed 😭😭💀

[@jbloun911]

Better not great, the Oline is killin him

[@sevenfights]

Mac Jones is immature. He is in his third year and still sounds like a college kid at the podium. Switching teams wouldn't change anything.

[@tryingbabe]

I used to agree with you but these past 2 weeks show me differently. I'd let the Dallas game go but he keeps making the same dumb mistakes. He can't flip the ball to a RB? We know the talent around him is weak but this was his chance to show up, play well, and keep his mouth shut about lack of support.

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

Its not the right reason but you dont know the reason. Wthey

[@stuartdavis174]

Baby bill thinks he is new england .time to grow up bill and leave .