Believe it or not: An unbelievably hilarious debate

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[@arjun08090]

Even the most religious person I know never says om namo naraayanaye instead of hello 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@-__________abhinavtariyal_5999]

कहते हैं पर इनके बोलने से ही पता चला रहा था कि यह केवल दिखाने के लिए बोले

[@thimbaiah9005]

Exactly lmao mujhe bhi wahi thoda ajeeb lag raha tha

[@sleepingduty2987]

the way he threw the spell at you in the start... almost had harry puttar vibes.

[@snowflake8235]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bhimanjali]

😂😂😂

[@tyrionlannister6847]

And vimoh handled it with ease.🔥🔥

[@IntrovertedAbhi]

Harry puttar vibes??

[@shreyas4557]

Hari ke puttar ke paas kisi chiz kaa uttar nahi rehta 🤷‍♂️

[@sangitaekka]

"I have evidence that I'm the son of my father." Choked on my Maggi. 😂😅😂

[@india........]

atleast he is willing to debate!! some positivity...

[@Udit873]

​@@jagdishswaroopAfter reading the Vedas, if one's reasoning becomes so poor, then they should be banned.

[@danieljoseph6646]

​@@jagdishswaroopthen why did your god give us poor hoomans reasoning skills?

[@gurnoorsingh2214]

@@jagdishswaroop you know what that means? Even if god does not exist in reality, even if we cant produce 1 credible evidence for legitimacy of idea of god and vedas, we should just believe it. But we wont stand if a logically driven atheist questions our legitimacy. You say god is extraordinary so extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. So why such a great god of yours did not leave 1 proof? Forget your god, why didnt any of the 4600 religions in the world give proof. Its because religion is faith and faith is personal thinking and personal thinking has no basis in reality. I can think personally that there is a unicorn in my room which only i see and people will call me idiot but a lakh people do so and it becomes faith and love of god.

[@tyrionlannister6847]

@@jagdishswaroop and that's called blind belief.

[@spiritofsoul2956]

​@@tyrionlannister6847 blind belief is actually pretty nice and helpful BUT only when done on a personal level. I don't know why religious people try to turn logical, there's no rationality or logic in God. I am a theist, I love God, I pray to God, I believe there's one source that is the ultimate, I believe there's one source that is the cause of all things. And I feel wonderful believing all this as if I know it. The problem starts when theists want to act all logical and claim that this is true for all the people, and they KNOW it for all, but no it's not, it's only true for me. Not everyone. And the other part of the problem starts when atheists start telling people, why are you in ignorance (if people can understand this maturely, this is the major reason why theists want to act all logical because they don't want to be called ignorant). Here's my viewpoint on it, because ignorance has always empowered human beings since time immemorial. And this metaphysical ignorance can prove to me very beneficial (I don't know about others) So I prefer to call it "not the knowledge of God" because I don't really have it but the "Ignorance of reality" is what I call God and is what I feel is blissful.

[@praneethb8037]

Om namo narayanaya Haan

[@sheetalsingh2597]

😂😂

[@Narasimha_TheSher]

boliye

[@Devilhunter69]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i think you are a charvaak

[@Ranak_141]

😅😅😅 When you can't defend you argument and now you can't accept you are wrong.

[@gurnoorsingh2214]

This was actually funny, people are turning really dumb because of sky daddy thirst😢

[@amangupta-rz7hn]

😂😂

[@MischiefL0ki]

bruh....

[@ancientminds199]

Hail Dyaus pitr, the supreme Indo European skygod

[@SAK_BanG]

Lmao😂

[@barnaliadhikary9421]

The way he said "om namo narayanay" in the beginning, it sounded like he is complaining about something, angrily...

[@obulapathichalla414]

It was a good one. He is trying sincerely make Vimoh a believer of Vedas - in this process of convincing he converted from a Vedas believer to all faith's believer ;-)

[@slaer]

Pehle Vishwas kare fir istemal kare

[@ranjandipti]

Underrated bro.

[@guripawar1897]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@daniyaal00]

Hahahaha oh my fuck**ng god

[@MrShukra2000]

Andhbhakt turns into mulla in moment 😂

[@soldier.proud-234]

People like those: Believe it or not... Let's be blind together 😊 We have different definition of Evidence...

[@venaist]

2:00 "You have to believe that" and then the rollercoaster starts!

[@MadhusudanSinha]

I have had similiar debates with a lot of my friends and now I try to stay clear of these discussions.

[@arjunrajendran4826]

Yeah bro that's a really good decision.

[@mayursawant111]

I agree, as I've gone through the same scenarios with many of my friends. What I've come to know is that when we put a logical argument they tend to accept the logic but somehow these guys aren't ready to accept that whatever they have been taught about the religion they follow since their birth which even their parents, grandparents and most of the people believe in is a blatant lie.

[@christiandietz6341]

@Madhusdan: exactly my situation, I've been fought over and over by my family for being atheist. Every time i ask for any kind of evidence that might turn me around, all hell breaks loose, every single f. Time! A lot of concrete inside those heads. So disappointing.

[@MadhusudanSinha]

@@christiandietz6341 I feel you man. It's almost like people force you to approve their religious nonsense.

[@GauravKumar-vu9td]

I can totally relate brothers. Logic goes for a toss, I was forced to go to a temple because my mom stopped eating when I revealed that I don’t believe in the almighty. What do I even do? She isn’t open minded, considering her age I can’t let her subject to such feats. At the same time I cannot be untrue to myself, I’m an atheist through and through.

[@ShubhamWasHere]

Jagdeesh Swaroop is dealing with confirmation bias. He has made his mind that if u surrender to vedas it will lead you to god for sure but the same won’t happen with any other religion.😂😂😂😂😂

[@manurazgoit]

yeah and fact is this madness is common in all religions across the world😅

[@Jyots89]

We hv to Cross check na baba😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kanishk_mactvish]

You smoked his ego,the way he asked u what is the evidence that u r son of ur dad😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DhruvMullick_Official]

Bro! How Are You So Calm With Dealing With These People Vimoh!?

[@ParthAndroid]

Exactly!!!! I can't his patience is on another level

[@RizAlir]

I really liked the augment you made with logic without being too aggressive Vimoh. Don't know KZbin recommended your video out of the blue, you gained a subscriber though.

[@vimoh]

Welcome aboard!

[@TarunKanthK]

Nice debate Vimoh ji. 👍 I am Telugu speaking humanist from Andhra state. Today first time watched your video. I liked your debating skills. So subscribed to ur channel. 👍

[@dpk228]

We need such debates. Thanks man!

[@raviwali6938]

And let's say he starts believing in Quran/Bible after they ask him to believe, the books contradict against other faiths, polytheism etc. What will he do then? Whom will he believe? He has to believe whoever gives evidence. And none of them have succeeded in giving the proper evidence.

[@WhatsInAName222]

You have the conversations that I avoid having because I couldn’t be bothered. THANK YOU!

[@avq512h]

Dude you have the patience of a monk! I would have lost it, his push towards his ignorance is so hard and he wants to impose his thoughts/beliefs on you without offering proof of his imaginary fairy tail. The minute he brought your farther and you just slam dunk his argument right there he was dumbfounded... "His mind: Accha DNA karke bhi koi patta kar sakta hai ki baap kaun hai?"😂😂😂 epic comeback!

[@RovinBarboza]

Did he just say proof reading & cross checking to belive in God 😂😂😂.

[@openatheism]

Something I can watch on repeat

[@Hey_Bharadwaj]

If you listen carefully, you can almost hear his mind crackling up inside 😂😂 truly hilarious

[@simplefahrenheit4318]

Thanks for the comedy before night, 😂

[@Ruchi553]

Love you sir from Uttar Pradesh Banaras Hindu University

[@amangupta-rz7hn]

😂😂😂

[@ashilyjustin4748]

Banars me ye sb baat krne se dharam bharast ka ilzam lgg jaega 😂😂😂

[@deepak-maan009]

Most Inhuman City is Banaras

[@garfielddsouza7781]

Hahahaha! This went from being stupid to stupider and then climbed into Rajshri productions arena...

[@sungu23]

Man this takes me back to days of youtube when Hitchen and Darkins were popular.

[@udhayveersingh1855]

Oh, man this was actually stupid 😂.

[@k_v9]

Hindu, Christians, Muslim all thinks that their holy book is written by GOD, but how they know that it is true? same answer: "Because that is what is written in the book".

[@viplavksmusic]

Dude You're a legend!!😭😭

[@asaikumar2002]

That was a good one!

[@mayursawant111]

What I've come to know is that when we put a logical argument they tend to accept the logic but somehow these guys aren't ready to accept that whatever they have been taught about the religion they follow since their birth which even their parents, grandparents and most of the people believe in is a blatant lie.

[@ExistentialNomad]

Thanks a lot for all of your work. Could you please make a video differentiating atheism and agnosticism.

[@kenkaneki3921]

Satisfactory as f*ck 😭

[@marburymadison3407]

Hey Vimoh, been watching your videos lately. Wanted to ask this geniune doubt. Is evidence for atheism equally poor? Can mere absence of evidence for theism count as evidence for atheism? If there's a claim that "A" exists, and there's no evidence to back it, does that logically mean that A does not exist or is it speculative as our only evidence for the claim of non-existent of A would be the absence of evidence for existence of A. So can absence of evidence count as counter-evidence? Or the very best we can be is agnostic from a very rational perspective? Cause, when I apply this example in a real life scenario, lets say if my friend makes a claim about the existence of some "25 feet tall man with 6 legs" and the evidence he backs it up with is that he has seen the man or experienced him. I feel pretty easy rejecting this claim thinking it's pure bullshit! But when I think deep enough, my only evidence for rejecting this claim was the non-display of any extraordinary evidence by my friend of his extraordinary claim. So what's the better way forward in being a conclusive atheist vs an agnostic in terms of philosophical rationality? Would love to hear your thoughts (i repeat this is a very genuine doubt)

[@vimoh]

If there is a claim that A exists but no evidence to support that claim, then there is no reason to believe it. That's all. I don't claim there is no god or gods. I simply say I don't have any reason to believe that there is a god or gods. That is why I'm an atheist.

[@marburymadison3407]

@@vimoh Okay I feel like I finally understood! if there's a claim A with no evidence to back it so there's no reason to believe it. And at the same it will be illogical to disbelieve that claim as there will be no evidence for falsification of a claim that is not even proved yet in the first place, and thus we will only be speculating and hence I have no reason of disbelieving as well. So claiming that there are no Gods/Goddesses and claiming that there are Gods/Goddesses both are pretty similar. Am I getting it correctly?

[@Veekay_stpauli]

@@marburymadison3407 Can't agree with your last statement. The point of Atheism is that there was no need to claim there is a God in the first place. If I Believe that there is tea pot revolving between Mars and Jupiter, and you say that is absurd, these 2 stands are not equal. You are forced to not believe the tea pot hypothesis cause I put it forward. Atheists are forced to say we have no reason to believe in God, cause theists put forward the hypothesis to believe in it.

[@marburymadison3407]

​@@Veekay_stpauli Agreed that it is obviously always a put forward hypothesis that is rejected. But then, I have no evidence to falsify your claim except the absence of your own evidence to prove your belief that tea pots revolve around Mars and Jupiter. Edit: Also clarifications on my last statement in case, the wording might lead to some misunderstanding: Not believing in God's or Goddesses and believing in God's or Goddesses will be the same thing as in terms of one is accepting the existence of God and the other one is denying the existence of God. Not having a reason to believe seems perfectly fine to me!

[@Rohan-ms6gv]

That's like an agnostic atheist

[@thephilosophicalnerd]

Not all Charvakas are hedonists. Their central thesis is Bhutachaitanyavaad that says that consciousness is an accidental property of matter. Hedonism is how other schools colour them as.

[@charvak42]

Do any of the original works of the Charvakas even exist today?

[@vinnes_sawyer]

Thanks vimoh

[@DEATHGOD.975]

HOW DO I KNOW IT IS NOT SCRIPTED.

[@unstoppableub]

Vimoh Bhagban Vishnu ka avtar hain. We should follow the path Vimoh is directing. Jay Vimoh.

[@basantprasadsgarden8365]

Sarcasm or *hutiyapa , I don't know

[@unstoppableub]

@@basantprasadsgarden8365 I am serious bro. Lord Garur came on my dream and told me that.

[@alan.blah09]

Loved this! Btw where do you stream your debates and can you make a video on gender and sex?

[@vimoh]

I stream on Vimoh Live

[@jagannathprasadbarik7872]

very well explained ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@MohitKumar-nx1zt]

Conclusion 🤣🤣🤣

[@curiosity_fan]

It not necessarily be gullibility but could also be the indoctrination that happens in most cases of the people born and raised in religious households.

[@usazar]

By their own claim, had 20000 years to come up with a better argument and circular logic is the only thing they can come up with... So sad.

[@nitinarvind]

I wouldn't have even an ounce of patience to deal with such basket cases

[@prakhars962]

Bhai ko circular argument me phasa diya.

[@harshtigga7596]

BIG MIRROR DOES WONDERS!!!

[@Unusedmaterial]

This is the most hilarious call i have heard on this channel lel

[@MCaddon2.011]

You should believe it ? That line destroyed the full collection of arguments of the person 😂😂😂

[@DibyajyotiDas]

Haha that was funny. It was like he was stuck in an infinite loop

[@Mekss1112]

Hey vimoh I always try to keep a rational mindset and thinking and most of the time I consider myself as atheist but as i belong to sikh religion i always got distracted by some points like some of the greatest personalities believe in god..Guru nanak and all the ten gurus believe in something beyond this world..And when i neglect the concept of god a question always pop up in my mind that how so many people including some of the great personalities ever born in world believe in concept of god which is very irrational. And i always have a fear in my mind that what if i am doing something wrong in not believing the concept of god and what if i will fear the consequences later. Concepts like karma and all always give me lot of confusion..Please make a separate video on the concept of karma and please make a separate video on astrology too Thankyou

[@ntu409]

The sikh, hindu, sufi and orthodox christianity have a common thing in them. Till an extent they propose existence is God. By this I mean, for God to create existence, he must first existence. Hence before any hypothetical mechanism of creating more, concept of existence must be first seen. Humans giving attributes to God comes out of love for our own existence. Existence is God and through engaging in faith as per religion, we can simply be joyous existing.. That is what the level spiritual Gurus and other leaders were on in a sense. Though the other systems of karma and hell/heaven change by faith. Its up to critical analysis to find which one is the best.

[@GaganSingh-nx2yv]

It's not like these great personalities ever provided a good rationale to believe in God. So it's hard to say. Guru Nanak stayed under water for three days, jesus was resuscitated, Mohammed split the moon. These are the kinds of justifications we are offered. Unlike philosophers who tries to justify their beliefs and we can look at their argument and analyse them. We can't do the same for prophets and gurus.

[@nitishchandra8693]

What is your opinion on Kushal Mehra of the Charvaka Podcast? A discussion of both of you would be great!

[@sandarshsd51]

Most of Vimoh's live streams are seen to either start or end with ISKCON Ads...☠💀

[@Dhruv_12769]

That om namo narayana got me 😂

[@YV-2000]

Love you vimoh, you are doing great service.

[@criticalpsyche]

seriously infected with confirmation bias

[@agnosticatheist4093]

Belief in a father or great-grandfather and belief in God - aren't really comparable. The existence of a father or great-grandfather is a normal part of human biology and history, something we as a society have a general understanding of and abundant evidence to support, even if we lack specific evidence about our individual lineage. On the other hand, belief in God represents an extraordinary claim that extends beyond the natural world as we collectively comprehend it. If belief in God did not require unique evidence, we would all presumably believe in the same God. Yet, the reality shows a plethora of religions, each with its own unique set of beliefs. This points to the fact that there isn't one universally "right" way to believe in God and underlines the idea that faith is often based on personal experience and intuition. Consequently, extraordinary claims like the existence of a divine being require extraordinary evidence, surpassing anecdotal or intuitive references.

[@AnujKumar-rw2gr]

Good job Vimoh sir. Atleast I can use your logics to defend my idiot colleagues.

[@soumilroy]

Just trust me bro

[@MrigankaRoy]

Socratic method live demonstration 😂😂😂

[@rushikeshsapkal7674]

Fastest debunker of the universe The Vimoh💪😁

[@suga667]

👌enjoying❤

[@AnishKumar-lh5hn]

Evidence crying in the corner 😂

[@alanjohn2675]

hilarious 🤣

[@pramodverma9366]

If you surrender to GOD , you will be controlled by someone who controls and defines GOD

[@shaileshparekh2607]

Can you write book on how to think ❤

[@user-fe8nr4rt8j]

Its likes Judging food before Eating😎

[@SandeepKumar-op2cn]

very similar discussions we see on ex muslim channels that bring out the double standards loud and clear

[@mithilbhoras5951]

Bro, we should create an Indian equivalent of the "Atheist Experience"!

[@Abhi-ss5lk]

The first line of this guy proved that he's brainless 😂

[@Dhruv_12769]

Om namo narayana 😂

[@ghost____1]

Once a wise man said foke vedas 🗿

[@basantprasadsgarden8365]

Laughters in Saramanism

[@spuriusscapula4829]

🗿 (hate the emoji btw, only using it ironically)

[@rushikeshsapkal7674]

Bro was so desperate to prove his point that he accepted other religions which call his religion a paganism😂😂😂

[@Nickel287]

Bro was stuck on , " Believe it bro , trust me vimoh " Religion is like a product company , every company says our product is good , the are ecstatic when their product is sold overseas and company acquires monopoly , but they can't accept some other company coming into their ground and overrun their business

[@shaileshparekh2607]

You don't believe in God but according to me you really true spritual person 😂❤

[@amangupta-rz7hn]

Go home rest kid you are not getting enough money to spread that shit over hear.

[@girish8803]

That's one more nonsense ..spirituality 😀😍

[@youwillseemeinothercomment5873]

Do you have any fb group or page??

[@YV-2000]

Vimoh please shed some light on the topic of 'soul' and 'rebirth' phenomenon said in some religions.

[@vimoh]

See video on Karma

[@YV-2000]

@@vimoh Ok, thank you.

[@imkazyboi]

This was so funny 😂😂😂

[@vrushabhshamkuwar6210]

Fucking hillarious 😂😂

[@adityapathak5761]

Interested to know what you think of scientism, where science is treated like a religion with blatant disregard and hostility for the scientific spirit of inquiry and skepticism

[@vimoh]

I have never met any atheist who worships science the way religious people worship god. But I HAVE seen religious people accuse atheists of "scientism" when they don't have responses to the questions asked about their religion.

[@basantprasadsgarden8365]

I too have not seen Any Atheist worshipping Scince, but,yes, Religious people do accuse that "Scince have become a Religion" bla bla... It's same like they used to accuse people of Witchcraft (which still happens today), because, Religion have Mastered the Skill of Strawman arguments and witch hunting. Infact, Religion exists because of Claims not Phenomenons, and Science can only Answer Phenomenons not Claims.

[@mithilbhoras5951]

Also, the Rishi's didn't "write the vedas" since the Vedas as Shrutis aka unwritten scriptures supposedly passed down thrown oral transmission. The man debating for the truth of the Vedas doesn't even have the basics of the Vedas correct and this way of transmitting scripture is even worse than writing it down.

[@AbhishekPatel-wm1cc]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@randomboy9357]

hello sir,I am brahmin by caste and i call myself an agnostic. whenever I go through the atheist community of India I find hate towards brahmins which sometimes makes me feel bad is there any solution to it?

[@vimoh]

Yes. Listen to them and try to understand why they say what they say.

[@Focused76]

Oh god I laughed to hard on this.

[@harshadabhaware1423]

Ok

[@fitwithrupam]

It was hilarious

[@Ram-bz1xs]

We can't tell the taste of tea or a sweet. You have to taste your self. Once you self realise,no need for you to tell about who is God? who wrote, how Vedas came etc, you know your Father, or up to four or five gerations. But definitely you will not know how your great,great great grandfather came on this earth. So is the vedas. Vedas are whispered by God (akashvani)when rishis performing penance. ...sage vedavyasa interpreted and divided into four Vedas as per requirement. Since Vedas not understood by common man, Upanishad came, then also not understood so puranas came in the form of Stories for common man to understand. Hope you understand. ? 😊

[@hashirwaqar8228]

i think jagdishswaroop is a nice person

[@prasenjittripura4691]

No he is gobarbhakt

[@sushilmanrai3000]

हिंदू धर्म के धर्माचार्य जी मातृभाषा छोड़ कर अंग्रेज़ी में क्यों घुसड़े हुए हैं।

[@adityapathak5761]

In my opinion, this is not the best argument to make, because you implicitly concede that the belief is valid if the believer is open to other beliefs, which isn't the case. I would have made the point that blind belief requires the suspension of all logic and reason, the pillars upon which humanity has progressed so rapidly. Thus it's nonsensical to first believe and work backwards towards the "evidence"

[@vimoh]

It was not an argument. It was a question about whether the standards being presented by the caller were universal.

[@Reghunandanan-dn9ot]

I am a believer. But i respect atheism because without strong rational backing, things would become blind pursuit. The argument made about parenthood being taken on belief is valid in my opinion. I think that it is a fallacy of authority to say that one can verify parenthood and actually not carrying out the verification. And I had read about an instance where the DNA tests came out falsely positive because in rare circumstances, it can match the wrong person because they indeed would have the same DNA. Oops! Also, verifying from other sources are also flawed because the ultimate test itself can come out wrong. So any other opinions would be on taken on the fallacy of authority as well. Right? In another clip, a similar point was made on verifying the reality of perception. Just because other people can perceive the same thing, it is not conclusive evidence is the perception being real. It is like pausing an animation into n number off computers and if they can detect the animation, then concluding that it is the reality and the more computers verify, the more reasonable to think that the animation is reality. Thinking deeply would show that another entity other than a computer will differ. But this doors not conclude but take the quest only deeper. And regarding multi religions and their differences, I see them all as pointing to the same God. The so called Abrahamic religions, 3 of major ones, all talk about a deluge which Noah survives and the Hindus too do have the same incident which is the instance of the Matsya Avatar where King Satyavrata was approached by God to tell him the same thing, to build a huge ship and survive a massive deluge, in exactly the same fashion. But this would then only lead to the idea that, then probably all those religions originated from Hinduism. I hope these would be interesting ideas to know.

[@GaganSingh-nx2yv]

Well you can't choose your beliefs. Either you're convinced of something or not. Example try believing in santa Claus.

[@rajsheth3153]

😂😂😂

[@mayb8876]

Thanks for the laugh, good way to start my morning!😂

[@cosmicwarriorx1]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rdrd9250]

Simple logic nhi samajhta..kaun hain ye bewakuf

[@excelsior2027]

Lets say someone says "there is no evidence for aliens hence aliens dont exist" does that remove all posibility of aliens existing? Same with god. I doubt god is "all good and all powerful and all knowing" at the same time but agnostism seems the rational position

[@vimoh]

Is it impossible for a giant transdimensional squirrel that eats gods for lunch to exist?

[@manurazgoit]

possibility of alien existence is more then god... just because we have a planet where we see life blossoms and evolved and it makes directed speculation that in the universe there are millions of planets so life can be possible and even intelligent life... has more probability mathematically then god as like planet Earth is real for us and a reference Point... but there is no reference Point about god