Jim Borden - Borden Accuracy |

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Believe the Target

Believe the Target

Күн бұрын

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@rangedayryan1057
@rangedayryan1057 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic interview. I love that Jim isn't gatekeeping his experiences and knowledge. What a legend
@scott2776
@scott2776 Жыл бұрын
Hands down… the absolute best interview I’ve ever seen as far as actions and their construction and maintenance!
@derekedgley5074
@derekedgley5074 11 ай бұрын
At 80, here in Scotland, I’m very much aware of Mr Borden from his bench rest days and when we had that excellent publication Precision Shooting Magazine sadly missed, edited by Dave Brennan. Listening intently throughout this incredible interview, it validated why I have so many Borden action rifles which seem to shoot lights out compared with the many others I’ve owned. In particular a Custom 257 Weatherby and a single shot 6.5 x 47 Lapua, the latter built as a hunting carry rifle, which will shoot three consecutive three shot 0.30” groups or more, when I play my part. This 257 WM as a long range tool, completely destroys any criticism or argument against the quarter bore for accuracy etc. I hope, we don’t have to wait too long for another session.
@joezierden4164
@joezierden4164 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Borden is a great engineer who seems to have his hobby intersect his professional ability that yields a great product. Great interview
@vladimirlyandres7031
@vladimirlyandres7031 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this interview is an amazing educational experience with historical perspective. Mr. Borden's narrative is so clear and precise that someone with limited experience in benchrest begins to grasp the details that make all the difference. Hoping to translate that knowledge into smaller groups. Thank you Mr. Borden and Erik.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jorgefigueroa7573
@jorgefigueroa7573 Жыл бұрын
You know I spoke to him for almost 40 min one afternoon when I ordered my action. And he was telling me about his hunting experiances with his rifles and actions. The best part even if you don't compete, is you can still build your hunting rifle with his actions and they work amazing.
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@rogerdarabbit1
@rogerdarabbit1 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesborden7112Thank you and Erik for sharing so much knowledge and history.
@allenclayton7
@allenclayton7 Жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting conversations yet. Bring him back!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Will do.
@Pete-Bates
@Pete-Bates Жыл бұрын
Whenever I have had a question Jim has been very responsive and helpful. Thanks Jim!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@balkanboy6509
@balkanboy6509 Жыл бұрын
This was a long awaited interview. Jim Borden is a treasure in the industry. Erik, I started following your channel about 2 years ago. From you I found out about Borden actions, and since I was on the market for the first rifle I decided to build one. I contacted Jim and stopped by his shop, he was kind enough to guide me through a overwhelming amount of options and after almost a year of wait I got myself a barreled action from Jim. This rifle is amazing, can't wait for next interview with him. Great job!
@georgeclarke4235
@georgeclarke4235 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best Believe your target podcast yet. Sooo much information there that novices, like me, can understand and apply. Always wondered where that extra money between a custom action and a premier custom action went. Now I know. Attention to detail. Gonna get a borden action for an fclass build. Just have to wait to get it.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
They are worth the wait.
@armassassinstrengthshop
@armassassinstrengthshop Жыл бұрын
Contact GT Accuracy…he has Bordens in stock and the store is only 25 min from Jim.
@rustybucket83
@rustybucket83 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Mr. Jim all day. Thanks for telling us what you KNOW.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@1clnsdime1
@1clnsdime1 Жыл бұрын
I'm already waiting for the next one. I love when guys are ready to drop some knowledge and not try to hide things and not give out info. He knows his name and machining ability is enough.
@billclifton8400
@billclifton8400 Жыл бұрын
Man this guy knows his stuff. This interview makes me feel that much more confident about owning Borden actions.
@fritzozuna654
@fritzozuna654 Ай бұрын
I wish my dad had lived to see conversations like these, these videos are so informative and open...thank you.
@brucegillespie654
@brucegillespie654 Жыл бұрын
OMG Eric having Jim on with this interview is riveting with great info . You got to love a guy that has come this far to make some off the best actions available.I would love to see a shop tour and some actual actions been made .Thank you both can’t wait for the next one ! Big fan of you both
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you.
@patrick6087
@patrick6087 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Mechanical Engineer for 25 years, mostly R&D and aerospace. Your interviews are awesome. This was great and I always enjoy the barrel makers too. Is Proof Research on the list? What about a trigger manufacture or two, Jewel, Trigger Tech something like that? Keep it up! Just awesome.
@rickschwertner282
@rickschwertner282 Жыл бұрын
Man I knew backside paper was where it was all hapening. Thanks for this one guys. Jim, as a small manufacturer your ability to wade through the hoopla and B.S. to find your way to people like Speedy and Erik who know what works, is simply refreshing. I'm all in for part 2 and 3 and 4.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am looking forward to doing more with Erik
@soonersteve3733
@soonersteve3733 Жыл бұрын
What a classic interview! This will take multiple rewinds to get all the golden nuggets! A lesson I learned from Speedy. Keep em centered and keep them coming. Looking forward to the next installment.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@larrypetersen7037
@larrypetersen7037 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic interview. I have always been a fan of intelligent people discussing the timing of bolt’s and why they do it. Adding the fact that you give measurements and poundage’s is a plus. Thank you Erik for having Mr Borden on for an interview and thank you Mr Borden for letting Erik interview you. I look forward to the next interview with Mr Borden on your channel..
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamesduda6017
@jamesduda6017 9 ай бұрын
Gentlemen like Mr Borden and Mr Krieger are a treasure. They possess vast amounts of knowledge yet remain so humble, giving them the ability to share that knowledge effortlessly. Thank you for this talk. I'm wiser for hearing it.
@mtnshooter2487
@mtnshooter2487 8 ай бұрын
It's too bad , If they don't pass there knowledge on, it will be lost. true greats of the industry.
@richardsmith4143
@richardsmith4143 Ай бұрын
These interviews are treasures, the examples of knowledge, craftsmanship, and character are all encouraging. Thank you
@adamglesener6438
@adamglesener6438 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd interview Jim one of these days. Thank you for all you do. I've learned a lot from all your videos.
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Borden; your toilet paper engineering story madw a lot of sense to me...i did a lot of automation and monitoring work for newspaper production, which not too many people "get", but it's a very high volume business, with even a mid-size operation doing several million per week, with that times Z, number of pages per week, and downtime costing tens of thousands of dollars per hour, so "goodness" of solutions really counts...and, one of my best friends worked as a process engineer, and developed a big process simulation product, so that I can readily appreciate the complexity of the "minimum punch-through" material and process engineering!
@brianbeaumont-gj2pw
@brianbeaumont-gj2pw Жыл бұрын
this has by far been the best podcast yet. learned so much today listening to Jim. Thank you both for your time!!
@tommcgovern690
@tommcgovern690 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview. Eric didn't have to ask too many questions as Jim kept on giving. Please organise another interview with him asap. Regards from Australia.
@davidmarshall8628
@davidmarshall8628 Жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure listening to what Jim Borden had to say. I certainly learned a few things.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
He’s got tons of knowledge for sure.
@mikebell611
@mikebell611 11 ай бұрын
As a student of the gun, I appreciate you and your guest taking the time to educate us. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
@DaveHuffman-j3t
@DaveHuffman-j3t Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion, glad I took the time
@BigRob345
@BigRob345 Жыл бұрын
Jim Borden is the nicest guy to talk to, and his own customer relations. Awesome guy!
@long-range-eliminator
@long-range-eliminator Жыл бұрын
What a legend, glad you had him on.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@JamesGrissom-n6v
@JamesGrissom-n6v Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this interview with Jim Borden! Learned a lot and it re enforced my confidence and appreciation for my Borden action!!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@wathaet1386
@wathaet1386 Жыл бұрын
Borden is a great guy! Have two of his actions and wish they were easier to get here in Europe. Absolutely love them both.
@gregorygardner1719
@gregorygardner1719 Жыл бұрын
I e been waiting for this episode. I hold Jim Borden and his products in the highest regard. I truly don’t think there is anything better! My first action when I started down the short range benchrest game was a Borden Rimrock. While everyone else was having the firing controls fixed on their Bat actions my Borden just kept on producing teen aggs. Borden actions were my first choice then and still are today! Thank you Eric and thank you Jim for this episode. I truly enjoyed every minute of it!!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg.
@jtee9548
@jtee9548 Жыл бұрын
More. More of this guy
@rb8812
@rb8812 Жыл бұрын
Wow . Unbelievable.. this was tremendous. The amount of knowledge and experience. Impressive. Hands down hands down the best interview I have ever seen . Only problem, he’s going to get real busy . So I may wait a while before I order .
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@1320pass
@1320pass Жыл бұрын
A couple hours just flew by. Jim is a Gem. I appreciate Mr. Corrina's isight as well. So much to learn from you both. And for sure Mr. Borden please come back on.
@wesleyjamison4442
@wesleyjamison4442 Жыл бұрын
Learned so much about actions. Looking forward to next time. Jim is so down to earth.
@kevinwehling2944
@kevinwehling2944 Жыл бұрын
One of the Best interviews to date,Thanks Jim and Eric.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@andymolt4587
@andymolt4587 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim and Erik, I have been waiting for this! I had the most valuable conversation regarding my next build with Jim just a few weeks ago!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@calebpruitt61
@calebpruitt61 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the work you do and all the hard earned knowledge you freely share with the shooting community. Your videos make it much easier for people like my dad to get into shooting sports and quickly grow their skills and abilities.
@ldftrdnk
@ldftrdnk Жыл бұрын
Thank you Erik & please pass on thanks to Jim. That was a wealth of knowledge across a phenomenal amount of work, much time & many people, broken down with simplicity & elegance, easily digested & retained, that can hopefully be passed on, or at least utilized. Thank you again, keep up the great work & wishing you continued success.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@josesuro3981
@josesuro3981 Жыл бұрын
Best podcast on the Tube ever! Will have to revisit many times because there is SO much wisdom in it! I've had plans since last year to order a Borden barreled action this February. Now I will be ordering TWO!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@prone_wolf8871
@prone_wolf8871 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both.....lots of knowledge in here..look forwardto the next interview..please have Mr. Sellars back as well...
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@prone_wolf8871
@prone_wolf8871 Жыл бұрын
​@@BelieveTheTarget do you know how much of an accuracy difference is found let's say in a borden repeater vs dedicated single shot?
@rotasaustralis
@rotasaustralis Жыл бұрын
Great interview Eric. I must say that when the subject of the Borden website came up, I had to agree whole heartedly. I've visited Jim's website many times & left the site more confused than when I when into it. I thought that the delineation you suggested is definitely the way Jim should go.
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for input and we are working on getting there. I guess having a geared brain with using logic did not fit the need of the most common users of the site.
@rotasaustralis
@rotasaustralis Жыл бұрын
The web site isn't horrible, there's just so much info to sift through. It's like a recipe book having all the info necessary but, with all the different categories of recipes randomly listed with the names of the recipes not delineating the differences clearly. The reader has to to read each recipe to try to figure out if it's a main meal or a desert by reading the ingredients. It's a very easy situation to create in any website simply due to the gulf of knowledge between the creator & the reader, especially when the number of choices is numerous. @@jamesborden7112
@paulfix8081
@paulfix8081 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have a short video on your website on cleaning and re-lubricating the action.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
The production of the video got stalled by some health issues that are resolved now. Hopefully we can get posted soon
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both for all
@SOLDTONORM
@SOLDTONORM 11 күн бұрын
10 months later...and I watched it again. Still learning.
@williamdrenningerjr9987
@williamdrenningerjr9987 Жыл бұрын
Love all your interviews. This one was the best that I have ever watched. One of the most important men in this industry. Can't thank you enough.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
I am blushing. Thanks for your kind words.
@rowanstrange1756
@rowanstrange1756 Жыл бұрын
Best interview yet ! Looking fwd to more videos with Jim.
@wendellsullivent4028
@wendellsullivent4028 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim and Erik. Just awesome! I can't wait for the next one!!!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DaleGraves-c1b
@DaleGraves-c1b Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool guy and talking about Mike Walker is one of my 40x ole guy !! This Erik was was very interesting I could set listen to guy’s like Jim for hours, thanks and keep them coming!!!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ChuckKozlowski
@ChuckKozlowski Жыл бұрын
Purchased a F-T/R rifle from Mr. Borden this past year - it is a marvel of engineering and a true work of art. He is a national treasure.
@tonyzammit5212
@tonyzammit5212 11 ай бұрын
what an fun & informative discussion! Thanks to the both of you! I'm so glad I own a Borden Denali!
@joelschenk9971
@joelschenk9971 7 ай бұрын
My Borden Denali has taken me out to 2585yds. It's a work of art.
@SOLDTONORM
@SOLDTONORM 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent guest !!! I watched it twice in my first sitting.
@jerryrochelle3112
@jerryrochelle3112 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@stevecraig1203
@stevecraig1203 Жыл бұрын
Borden. The best actions in the industry.
@trentonauman8224
@trentonauman8224 11 ай бұрын
The best interview I've watched thus far.
@mikeadams9337
@mikeadams9337 Жыл бұрын
Omg, the one I've been waiting for!
@williamsweet7511
@williamsweet7511 Жыл бұрын
seems like a super nice guy and this was as always, an informative interview, thanks. I'll have to call Monday and order one
@take1one
@take1one Жыл бұрын
I really want a Borden action . Thank you for the info boys. Excelent work as always
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@brettparry2052
@brettparry2052 10 ай бұрын
Every time i have spoken to Jim or heard him talk shop. I always end with 100% confidence in what he says. Keep up the good work , your expirence is by far better than the latest hype One diagram on your web site that could be helpfull is a simple diagram of part names which make up your actions so people fallow your cleaning instructions. Thank you sir
@joeelting6538
@joeelting6538 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim lots of good info and thank you Eric cant wait for the next one and Jim's new website
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@richardhall4500
@richardhall4500 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview, thank you
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@TJ257ACK
@TJ257ACK Жыл бұрын
That was a great interview. Respect and gratitude for sharing!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@fmt5327
@fmt5327 Жыл бұрын
Great interview! A wealth of knowledge thanks for sharing
@whyme82004
@whyme82004 10 ай бұрын
it was an absolute treat to watch this interview ! I will watch this a few times for sure , to absorb as much as possible . Jim has always taken the time to explain things in a way that I can grasp , whenever I have had to call him . Erik , you fellas never got the chance to talk about his Super Short Six action . Ask Jim about his ultra rare "Sasquatch" action ! lol cheers
@craigleamon7649
@craigleamon7649 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic interview Eric, very interesting and informative 👍 Everything Jim says makes perfect sense, thankyou for sharing
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sadmazOR
@sadmazOR Жыл бұрын
Website is OK. Thank you for sharing your story mr. Borden, also appreciate Eric for briging this amazing people.
@lexusowner2924
@lexusowner2924 11 ай бұрын
great suggestion from Erik at about 56:00. While watching this interview I was looking at the Borden website and was definitely overwhelmed by all the actions. That said, these actions look very nice. I learned a lot, thanks gentlemen!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget 11 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@davidrobinson-qo7ue
@davidrobinson-qo7ue Жыл бұрын
Great information can't wait for the follow up
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@briansupermag3918
@briansupermag3918 Жыл бұрын
Love my borden action on my custom McWhorter 45xml smokless muzzleloader
@jasonrad9332
@jasonrad9332 Жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks Erik and Jim.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@jasonrad9332
@jasonrad9332 Жыл бұрын
@@BelieveTheTarget looking forward to the next one with Jim. As well as every other one dropping.
@zachdavis9748
@zachdavis9748 Жыл бұрын
Jim Borden is great! I could listen to him all day. Erik Cortina is pretty good too... behind a microphone or a bull float. I heard that he can shoot too.
@davidross1882
@davidross1882 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Incredible education here. Thank you!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bigcliffadventures
@bigcliffadventures Жыл бұрын
Wow, it was a great video. I learned so much too. Thank you both . God bless y'all
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Wasur1959
@Wasur1959 8 ай бұрын
Wow great interview, Thank you for sharing this incredible knowledge.
@rangervapes571
@rangervapes571 Жыл бұрын
Website is great now and shows maint requirements etc. Well done!
@johngills-vz8ut
@johngills-vz8ut Жыл бұрын
Quite possibly the best yet!
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@highplains8816
@highplains8816 Жыл бұрын
I love the comments about the torque wrench couldn't agree more
@SixOFord
@SixOFord Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot on this one. The parts about the bolt and the barrel torque I think interested me the most. For an in depth video on barrel torque, I recommend jacob bynum of rifles only. Hes got a good video on the torque procedure.
@wrstew1272
@wrstew1272 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Both of you, the questions are spot on, and his answers are from years of experience. More! 😂
@paulgandy8400
@paulgandy8400 Жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING ! thanks very much . This vid furthers the knowledge AND takes care of a few arguments in my favor😁
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! 😂
@johnarnold2278
@johnarnold2278 Жыл бұрын
Way beyond my knowledge !!! At least I have the right guy doing my custom 7prc build. Can't wait till July when it hopefully is delivered. Cortina brags about him and Brux barrels. Good enough for me for my 1st custom rifle.
@stevegerrard2451
@stevegerrard2451 Жыл бұрын
Finally the one I've been waiting for!!!!
@graememoss4057
@graememoss4057 Жыл бұрын
Simply excellent.
@mattfuquay5702
@mattfuquay5702 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Learned all kinds of new things to obsess over
@normanbeaver5232
@normanbeaver5232 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!
@plstein20
@plstein20 Жыл бұрын
This was really good. Way over my head, but I really enjoyed it.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@markfox-wm7yk
@markfox-wm7yk Жыл бұрын
Great pod cast Jim and Erik. On a side note primer blanking can also be caused by weaker springs then the internal pressure over riding the firing pin spring. It is a common problem with remington actions and guys who oversize their flash holes. During case prep.
@treece1
@treece1 Жыл бұрын
I blew one my 700s one time! XXgrains Of H322 behind a 70g sierra in a 243 win. Blew the bolt apart, i rethread the tenion and got a new bolt. Id like to get one of Jims br actions
@frankspataro9714
@frankspataro9714 Жыл бұрын
Seriously this is golden Eric I'm learning alkinds of stuff not that know much but dam this is good stuff 👏
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
COOL! , Jim your a wonderful man
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@landlockedviking
@landlockedviking 9 ай бұрын
Thankyou both, fantastic interview!
@frankcastle9476
@frankcastle9476 Жыл бұрын
Best one yet
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 Жыл бұрын
Big 6.5prc handloader and Jim’s work is unmatched..hope to someday own barreled action from him to test and cherish…
@charlesking8542
@charlesking8542 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@jesseburns9734
@jesseburns9734 11 ай бұрын
WOW how can any one man recall all that information. GOD bless him.
@BelieveTheTarget
@BelieveTheTarget 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@scott5803
@scott5803 Жыл бұрын
outstanding!
@SeaWhizz
@SeaWhizz Жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this interview, Jim was super knowledgeable and interesting. One thing I’d love to know the answer to is why Borden actions don’t have an integral picatinny rail? Most modern custom actions have an integral rail, to aid rigidity, concentricity and prevent just one more point of failure from happening (eg screws/pin coming loose). Why does Borden not have integral rails?
@jamesborden7112
@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын
I have some very solid reasons why I have not done integral rails. I am not certain where you get conclusion that they add concentricity because the opposite is actually true.
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
Good for you jim
@newerest1
@newerest1 Жыл бұрын
classic episode, 2 hours flew right by. already cant wait for the next time Jim is on.
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