Belsaw A 14 Ripping Into A Red Cedar

[@troyrichart9034]

Love it. There is nothing like that old equipment working.

[@tractorman4461]

Thank you for the visit....and I LOVE to work the old stuff too. Especially the tractors.

[@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE]

It's pretty neat to see the old mill at work Wendell 🙂👍

[@tractorman4461]

There's just something about a good old circle mill !! I love the sounds, the smells, the sawdust...the whold deal Zane. Thanks for stopping in today buddy.

[@powrguy1696]

There's something "soothing" about watching those circular mills, for me. Sort of "medicinal". Nice.

[@SK-tr9ii]

I agree.

[@tractorman4461]

I agree...just something about the way the blade sounds echoing across the holler mixed with the sounds of a good running tractor or power unit.

[@keithgoldston2859]

I worked at a bandsaw mill for a year i love watching the old mills work

[@tractorman4461]

I can't imagine the speed of the big commercial mills. I've seen some that are amazingly fast, circle mills AND band mills. Operators in an enclosed booth with buttons and levers !! I wouldn't know where to begin. I've got a nice 60" circle mill with a 3-71 Detroit power unit to set up one of these days. 48 foot rail, but I think I'm only setting up 36' though.

[@ricksmith-iw2op]

Thanks for sharing that Wendell.

[@tractorman4461]

Well heck Rick, thank YOU for stopping by and taking a look !!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good Morning Sir, ( I'M SO SORRY I MISS SO MUCH OF YOUR OUTSTANDING VIDEOS !!!! ) I will catch all of them Sir 😉👍👍I remember that video soooo much 💖💖👍😇Keep Warm Cheers 🍻🍻

[@tractorman4461]

No worries Dave. I know you are a busy busy man dedicated to your job. That, my friend is not only commendable, its very important !!

[@sassafras6309]

I love the smell of cedar! Good job 😊

[@tractorman4461]

OMG !! How are you doing....I haven't talked to you and Mike in a month of Sundays !! Thanks for stopping in today...please tell the ol' boy howdy for me.

[@bosse641]

What a lovely old sawmill. Never seen one before. Would have loved to own one.

[@tractorman4461]

Bering pto driven, the Belsaw mill was designed with the farmer in mind. It made it affordable for them to build barns, garages and storage sheds, hog houses and fences. It was also designed as a one man mill with the arbor powered from the opposing side and all access to the log and lumber is attained without crossing the drive shaft. They could be mounted on your own frame, on truck bedframes, wooden frames or even on bar joists like this one here.

[@zodszoo]

The essence of cool sawing right there!

[@tractorman4461]

I really prefer a circle mill. If both types of mills are manually operated, I'll take a circle mill any day. Now fully hydraulic....I thing my money would be on the band mill. With a band mill every fifth board is free. Thanks for stopping by today !!

[@Dave_Smith_1958]

Wendell, I believe I watched that on your son-in-law’s channel a while back. Didn’t mind watching again. Thanks, Dave Smith

[@tractorman4461]

I figured with as many views it got over on his channel at least one or two may have seen it !! Thanks for watching it again, Dave.

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

Some right nice red cedar boards! And the sound of that Oliver and that buzz saw are really pleasing to hear! More Tippin and Sippin fer ser

[@tractorman4461]

Hot dang the old Ollie sounds smooooooth and sweet doesn't she. Sitting here with the Missus talking about your talent with the artifacts you work on. Tippin a few your way as well....

[@ThomasWalker-m2y]

Wendell That was Hollywood Style film making. Like everything you do just PERFECT!!!!

[@tractorman4461]

Tom, you're always quick the best of comments my friend. Thank you for the very supportive replies !!

[@leonardryan8723]

Good morning WENDELL . 😊

[@tractorman4461]

Good Evening Leonard !! Life is good, isn't it..!!

[@farmboy6218]

Nice shirt. I worked there as a tool and die machinist many years ago. Great company to work for.

[@tractorman4461]

Awesome !! That poor old shirt is plum wore out now.... LOL

[@leonardryan8723]

Iiiii iiiii remember them old chain grown . Now there a lot but aside in scrap pile . No one left to hammer the blade and keep them up 🔝 and running. Now it’s gone to bandsaw mill now in life . My God miss the smell off cedar chips off them good old mill Wendell . Hey 👋 GREAT OLD VIDEO, now your into bandsaw on your video now 😊. How TIME changes over the years . 😊😊😊

[@tractorman4461]

Yessir times are changing that's for sure. I need to find someone to hammer my 60" that goes on the big mill...whenever I get around to reassembling that thing . I need to though because I can't WAIT to fire up that 2 stroke Jimmy !! It's a 3-71 Detroit diesel. Thank you for stopping in with a few memories my friend. Stick around and we'll make some sawdust together !!

[@tennesseesawmillguy1590]

I’ve watched this one several times!

[@tractorman4461]

Awesome !! Thank you for that. I don't try to act like a pro, but I sure do enjoy sawing. I really like circle mills.

[@dmalloy96]

Hope you have a great weekend

[@tractorman4461]

Well it's gonna be a busy one at least. I'm working on clearing out the shed to move in the butchering equipment. Hogs and beef coming soon !! I hope all is well with you up that ways David.

[@tomfillmore9710]

Hey buddy thanks for sharing the video before you deleted it enjoyed watching nice looking lumber take care have a great weekend you and the misses

[@tractorman4461]

Well heck Tom, I was in the process of deleting it and stopped to text the son in law to ask him if he thought it ok to use here too. So thank you for taking the time to watch...I sure wish it was as warm today as it was THAT day. LOL

[@eastcoastcabinfever]

Awesome video. I’d love to have a mill like that. Good stuff man. Awesome channel

[@tractorman4461]

Well, thank you for the kind and supportive comment !! I have parts and pieces of several circle mills, and one complete 60'' with 48' of frame, 12' carriage and 3-71 Detroit diesel power unit.

[@gatorsworld]

That's some nice cedar. We don`t get the red cedar around here. We can buy it but it comes from somewhere else....CHEERS

[@tractorman4461]

Yeah I understand that. Like down here we have no birch to speak of, but you guys got it everywhere...at least some areas in Canada do. Cedars are around here by the thousands !!

[@danvanhoose6783]

Nice cedar.i could smell it

[@tractorman4461]

Its one of my favorite woods to saw for that reason. And its absolutely gorgeous too when you get a good solid one thru and thru.

[@neilbush6190]

Good video, I like that smooth oliver power ,I could smell that. Cedar way up here in upstate n.y.

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha...well, if not, I can verify that it smelled really really good Neil !! That old Ollie has been the best thing so far to pull this mill with. I tried it with a JD A and that was a no go.

[@timdyer6196]

Nice job. I believe that was some ones much younger brother

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahahaha....I see what you did there Tim. LOL. That was funny !! I'd say about 7 years younger if I'm remembering right. (-;

[@tractortalkwithgary1271]

Good morning Wendell.

[@tractortalkwithgary1271]

I love the color of that cedar Wendell. I should buy a trailer load of that from you. That would make a great video too. 🤔

[@tractorman4461]

@@tractortalkwithgary1271 I've got a bit, but probably not quite as much as you'd want Gary. But I have a good number of cedar to cut from a cousins property that was hit with straight line winds. He's been cutting and burning them but now is waiting on me in late winter to come out to get a few trailer loads of fair sized logs. That's gonna make a good video too, I think.

[@tractorman4461]

Good Evening Gary !! A little warmer today and I spent a few hours of it at Jefferson Barracks health center doing the Camp LeJeune water contamination screening.

[@dmfor9001]

I am guessing there is a nice smell off that cedar

[@tractorman4461]

Oh yesssss... nothing like the sawdust smell !! Very pleasant. My sisters back in the day would sew up tubes outta bedsheets and stuff 'em full of fresh cedar to toss in the bottom of the closets back home.

[@arkansas1336]

Nice. Did you use it for closet lining?

[@tractorman4461]

Not these particular boards, but my entire four season room is lined in cedar as well as two large walk in closets for the Missus, plus half of the area finished off in the basement too !! I've also built a number of 'hope' chests out of cedar and also a 4 panel raised panel door for one closet.

[@davescorneroftheworld1147]

WELL... It is VERY CLEAR I am a better sawyer on THAT mill than you are... Laugh laugh giggle giggle snicker snicker!! GREAT GREAT video. Have a GREAT day my friend!

[@tractorman4461]

Good Evening Dave !! I might have to agree with you on that. You did ok that day you were here until the problems showed up with the blade. This was the first video I ever made...but we put it on the son in law's channel because mine wasn't really set up fully and I knew nothing about editing. I took your advice though and bought a pretty good tripod and it sure makes a BIG difference !!

[@russphillips835]

Looked and sounded great bub!

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Russ...I really rather run a circle mill than the bandsaw. Now if the bandsaw was fully hydraulic, that'd be a different story !!

[@russphillips835]

@tractorman4461 Yeah, theres just something about those old mills. I know the new bandsaw mills are more efficient but something about the sound takes me back to my childhood. Thanks for another great video. 👍

[@tractorman4461]

@@russphillips835 Our old mill on the farm was powered by a mid-30's in-line 8 cylinder Buick and man that thing would howl like a banshee !! I can hear those sounds echoing in my memories as we speak. Thanks to YOU for stopping in to watch another one.

[@russphillips835]

Our old neighbor who passed away many years ago had one powered the same way. Ran from the 30's till the 90's. No matter what the tree we called it Gougler pine!

[@tractorman4461]

@@russphillips835 Hahahaha....Gougler Pine reminds me of my dad. When he was a kid an old timer named Newt Huey called a sycamore tree 'white oak' because of how white the bark was. So until the day he died, my dad always called Sycamore 'Newt Huey's White Oak'.... Old timers were something weren't they.

[@thecollectoronthecorner7061]

I happen to own a Bellsaw. Ours is mounted on a wood frame. Ive often thought of using a larger circle mill's mandrel so i could tin a 52 inch blade. However the retaining nut would be turning the wrong direction and not stay tight. So It would need to become a left hand mill to work? I really enjoy watching a circle sawmill in person or on a video.

[@tractorman4461]

I actually ran a 48, 49 and 50” insert toothed blade on this one with the original arbor. But if you really needed to reverse direction of the arbor it’d be a big job to do it correctly. But if you’re willing to operate it from the offbearers end, you could use a 4 speed truck transmission, figure the ratio, and power the arbor in reverse …?? It’d be a real bugger. A one-off for sure. I’d suggest just trying to find another 50” like I did. I really enjoyed the little Belsaw !!

[@regsparkes6507]

Super video,. .that cedar sure has a nice looking grain to it, doesn't it? Only difference between then and now Wendell is that now, you may need a hair trim LOL. 👍😄

[@tractorman4461]

Oh my gosh, its absolutely beutiful...finished or not Reg. I do prefer a high gloss polyeurthane finish though.

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 Wouldn't it make into beautiful furniture, such as cabinets or a chest etc.?

[@tractorman4461]

@@regsparkes6507 oh heck yeah Reg. You just gotta pick and choose to find the purest red heartwood. A smattering of the white is very pleasant as well, but you wouldn't want too much. It's the sap wood mostly anyway.

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 👍

[@davidgridley3643]

Very cool

[@tractorman4461]

Good Evening David...thanks for stopping in for a visit today. Hope you enjoyed it!!

[@Wheelloader__]

Cool old tool tractor man. Things were built to last back then. Not like this throw away world we live in now.

[@tractorman4461]

I love the way this one was built on the bar joists. This is why I decided to use bar joists to build the 21' trailer for the Frontier bandsaw mill. This old Belsaw sat rotting down for at least 30 years. It had a tree growing right up the middle around the carriage cable. I just cut the tree off above and below the cable and let that part rot away. Eventually it fell off.

[@treyowen122]

Awesome video, I’m wanting to get into this type of work so bad! Have plenty of cedar and pine on hand! Any advice?

[@tractorman4461]

These particular Belsaw one man saws used to be all over the place and bought cheap. Not so much any more though. If you're only looking for a little side money, I'd look for a bandsaw mill. They are much more labor intensive than a circle mill unless you go with the big bucks hydraulic controlled ones. Then you're at 40 grand and HAVE to make money doing it. Cedar and pine are two of the easiest woods to saw and there seems to be a good market for it. Luckily you have a good supply of it. Another thing that's big bucks is raw edge sawing of hardwoods. Guys love it for making tables and bar tops...even doors. Good luck with whatever you choose. But I have a lot of band sawing videos in my playlist above like this one: kzbin.info/aero/PLk72G9DTzZ1vxi3ger2KJ4HqOCmqD8e1K

[@bendugas8632]

I don't mean to be disrespectful but there is no band saw mill that gives you that sound when sawing lumber, I started working in a sawmill at 15 years old and I haven't tired of the sound yet.

[@tractorman4461]

No concern there...I agree with you a hundred percent. There's nothing like the howl of the blade echoing up through the holler in a good cut. I prefer sawing on a circle mill too. But I think I'd change that thought if the band mill was fully hydraulic and the circle mill was manual. But if both were fully hydraulic, I'd take the circle mill if for no other reason, for the nostalgia of the sounds.

[@mafarmtown2086]

Aw man, first video, you should have kept it for posterity!

[@tractorman4461]

I copy all the completed videos to SD cards for future G-Grandkids that ain't born yet. Just in case they want to see how the old folks did things. LOL Imagine how you'd enjoy finding old 8mm family movies that were made years before you were born....that's the goal. (-; I'm currently am on SD #40 , btw.

[@tonyjones9715]

👍👍👍👍👏👏

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Tony for stopping in again for an old one....but never before seen here !!

[@79fordblake]

Nice looking planks there! How’s the weather up your way?

[@tractorman4461]

The last three days its been brutal. Starting out around 3 or 4 below zero and topping out in the low teens. But today it made it to the upper 30's. Felt like t-shirt weather !! I know its been chilly down your way too...did you try to fire up the old JD..?? I had to move the kubota inside the shed instead of the lean-to and leave a heat lamp under the motor !! Just to be sure anyway.

[@79fordblake]

Yes it has been pretty cold here also and topping out in the mid 20s. I believe two more days of this and then back to normal here. Down in the negatives Saturday morning. The ole Deere will crank. I might get it out tomorrow after work lol.

[@tractorman4461]

@@79fordblake Actually those old two cylinders did seem to fire pretty good in cold weather...as long as the mag was good and hot.

[@REVSMOG]

What RPMs were you running on the Oliver? That sounds smooth and sweet.

[@tractorman4461]

I think that Super 88 runs around 1650 to 1750 rpms at wide open throttle. She sure sounds good though, no doubt. All 265 cubic inches too !!

[@REVSMOG]

@@tractorman4461 It a very nice tractor.

[@tractorman4461]

@@REVSMOG The worst thing is the steering. The previous owner patched in a rear steering set up off of a combine to make this one a wide front. It's impossible to turn around in a tight space.

[@REVSMOG]

@@tractorman4461 LOL. Another man's solution can become our inconvenience or problem! "What was he thinking!?" 😆

[@tractorman4461]

@@REVSMOG Well, I guess he was looking for stability. I've got a parts 77 that has a narrow front. I'm pretty sure it'll interchange with this one and fit perfectly. I'd put some tri rib 16's on it then.

[@ThomasWalker-m2y]

Wendell it's not called Stealing anymore they call it REAPPEROATION OF FUNDS. I LEARNED THAT FROM A POLITICIAN.

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahahaha...Good one Tom !! I like that my friend. Thanks for the fun comment buddy.

[@catfish500mark9]

☆☆☆☆☆

[@tractorman4461]

This is the first video I made for youtube, but never shown on my channel until now. My son in law got something like 8 million views on it though.