On high end race engines they almost all have gone to a belt drive timing system even on engines that originally had timing chains like small block chevrolets. This was done to reduce rotating mass and harmonics that transfer through chain systems that occur at high RPM. These improvements are seen on any pretty much any belt system.
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me 👌🏻👌🏻
@Sharpened_Spoon3 жыл бұрын
Screw it, I don’t even want gears anymore haha Excellent video, lots of fun to see how un-slappy the belt is and cool to hear it feels dampened too when pedalling.
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
Cheers brother 🤘🏻
@andreyomer71832 жыл бұрын
This is my dream bike (zerode, belt driven, coil shock, silent hub).
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Same bro. It’s really something to ride this thing. It’s dead silent.
@deniseroberts6908 Жыл бұрын
Excellent info on belt drives 👍
@superyamagucci2 жыл бұрын
Here’s something for you. I specialise in heavy machinery tracks - diggers and dozers etc. look into how quickly - and why - having your chain fitted backwards destroys chain and sprockets. It’ll blow your mind. Vid on that. To decide if belt is a system you need, work out initial cost + time + maintenance cost over the expected ownership of your bike. Go with the lower number. Unless you just really love one over the other - for me it’s all $/hr over its life. [example. Bought $350 trousers. Lasted me over 10yrs, 6 days a week. Other option: $75 jeans every 3 months. Actual cost about 10% of jeans.] Both points are badly explained, but you’ll get there.
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro. For me it’s the silence and riding experience. I’d pay whatever it takes to get the best / quieter bike 👌🏻👌🏻
@Cyromantik2 жыл бұрын
Someone probably already mentioned this, but Veer makes a belt that has a spot where you can open the belt to pull it through the triangle, then snap it closed using pliers.
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy. Thanks. I didn’t know and would like to try one!
@PriLEX-xp6cm6 ай бұрын
Hi ! Thanks for you video. I have 2 questions : Is a 39 or 32 teeth front pulley on you bike ? It seems to be 32T but tensioner is normally design for 39T. Your rear sprocket looks like 39T. Is a aluminum front pulley set on the freewheel hub ? Thanks a lot.
@davidd6510Ай бұрын
You should check out the "Veer" adjustable belt system
@Plasmo20 Жыл бұрын
Question. when you take off the cassette, is the freehub reused OR can the rear wheel be rebuilt with a more uniform spoke layout. DS to NDS. Cassette means the DS spokes are almost at the centreline vs the NDS spoke line. I am expecting the belt drive cog being single that the wheel hub and spokeing can be 'normalised?
@edofelbi Жыл бұрын
where did you buy the kit?
@hotmale19712 жыл бұрын
In this video, you're using a traditional fork, are you not using the Motion Ride anymore? Can you do a long-term review on the Motion Ride. Thank you.
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro. Correct. I swapped out to the 38 not long after the review. The 38 is a better all rounder.
@monsterphonic2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great vids Steve!! One question, did you notice any extra drag moving from a chain to a belt drive, TIA!!
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
None at all bro. If anything, slightly less.
@deepakk13472 ай бұрын
Do we have to lube the belt with silicon Gesese?
@petea5922 жыл бұрын
Hello again, Steve! Well, I got a Taniwha Mulet from another biker here in the US that was changing his ride. It's about a year old and is in good shape, but I can see where the tensioner and belt retainer look like THE maintenance watch areas. I like your upgrades to the tensioner and will be implementing that right away. What do you lube the inside of the tensioner piston assembly with, and how often? While going over the bike, I just cleaned mine out and put a little silicone spray in it so it wasn't dry, but was reluctant to use a heavier lube or grease on it figuring it will be a dirt magnet. I can see where the rubber boot you created from the road bike tube should really help keep stuff out of there--good idea! Have you had any problems with water getting inside? Also, my belt guide at the back looks VERY close to the belt (hard to see the daylight between them) so I am thinking it will be a problem with mud and other gunk and might damage the belt. Have you decided if the prototype you created is a GO or not? If so, I would be interested in one as well since it looks like a better design. Thanks for your videos--very informative and helpful. Any other maintenance tips or lessons-learned you are willing to share would be appreciated. Thanks. Pete
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete. Thanks for your kind words. The prototype retainer wheel on the back is great but, I’ve reached out to the bloke who made it for me and he is busy trying to catch up on a bunch of back logged work as he is UK based and snowed under from covid. If the belt is running a bit close to the retaining slider it may not have enough tension or there may be stiction at one of the pivots or bearings somewhere in the system. The piston / plunger that sits inside the spring, I used a waterproof grease then covered it with the roadie tube ( a small zip tie at each end to hold it firm ) and it’s been perfect. It’s air tight and the mod seems to have held up for a year. In fact I have not had to touch or overhaul any part of the tensioner since I did the mods.
@petea5922 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I just installed a new belt (the other one snapped for some reason), and haven't ridden it yet, so maybe it hasn't seated itself yet. Thanks for the extra detail on the tensioner. I will make those changes to it, as it is wet and muddy here, and I don't want to have issues with it. Spring was rusty and the piston was dry. Bearing in the pulley seems good, but I think I will upgrade it based on your experience. Thanks again for the helpful information.
@CogitareEstVivere Жыл бұрын
Guys where do you buy tensioners ? I can’t find them anywhere. Please advice ! And thanks for the amazing details professional video !
@Len_M. Жыл бұрын
I want a DH Beltdrive FSR with Shimano SRAM and the little computer system. There is a Short of the Bike but I have no idea who its made by.
@user-ku4yk4ut4z9 ай бұрын
You can do a belt on ANY bike split frame or not....its Called a VEER Belt drive works on ALL bikes
@fetB Жыл бұрын
wonder how waxed chain compares in terms of noise
@dodger1x2 жыл бұрын
Veer Split belt is an option if you don’t want to split open the frame
@marcschlegel7132 жыл бұрын
Love the chain/belt comparison. Lets see if I can convert my 2012 Pinion to a belt. I should actually save some weight because I use the long-live-chain (+ thicker sprockets).
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
Thx bro! 👊🏻
@johnmcgovern3806 Жыл бұрын
At 11min 44 secs belt is riding up on teeth, what is happening there?
@rabs20203 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve where do you source that spring cover on that tensioner also that roller on the rear belt protector. Awesome video btw very informative. Thanks
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
Thx buddy 👊🏻 The spring cover is a 700c roadie tube cut to length and turned inside out ( so it’s seamless and presents better ) The wheel in place of the scrubber on the belt retainer is a custom piece / prototype that we are looking to make. Testing it now to see how it holds up / performs.
@rabs20203 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGouldChewy thanks, if that prototype version comes out in production I’m definitely gonna get me one very nice.
@romanknobel737011 ай бұрын
hy, how many teeth has your front and your back beltwheel?
@davidd6510 Жыл бұрын
There is an adjustable belt available. Sadly I don't remember the name of it.
@insanebmxthomas3 жыл бұрын
great vid. if my frame had internal gearing (pinion drive?) it'd be a nobrainer. much better than chains i reckon.
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
Thx buddy. Yeah I agree, I try to be as objective as possible in my reviews but the belt is way better. 🤘🏻
@fosterechalimbana2160 Жыл бұрын
doing a good job & like this
@lefthorse1 Жыл бұрын
After seeing this , i would never ever ever buy a chain system , its just love at first sight , every aspect makes so much sense , the wider hub , the weight reduction from the rear axle , the clean appearance , no lube needed , no maintenance , its silent ...
@SteveGouldChewy Жыл бұрын
100% 👌🏻
@_demerl_48553 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I’m from Germany and own a Taniwha with Belt drive. Can you maybe tell me the measurements for the bearings of the Belt tensioner? Just finished sealing the Spring (got rusty pretty fast) but forgot to measure the bearings… Thanks
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy #SS6800RS SS at the beginning means they are the Stainless Steel version.
@ap1reviewsadventures962 жыл бұрын
I never drop a chain on my 2022 Santa Cruz Bronson (with a OneUp chain stay lol)
@noorhazli6144 Жыл бұрын
very stable when impact
@robincurwood Жыл бұрын
I got a hard tail belt drive bike, which if you get a small stone between sprocket and belt it split the belt. Plus if you replace the belt on and partially worn sprocket it makes a clacking sound. IE I think the belt tries to ride over the sprocket, with just a little over three thousand miles . I was told and seen in the advertising that It should last in excess of 15 thousand miles! I am 66 years old with a heart condition, just trying to keep fit. So I aim to do up to 10 miles a day. Mainly on roads and gravel paths. The bike as spent 4 months out of 14 months in the shop under repair? And it is still not right. I got my old mountain bike out of storage as I now how to maintain that and never had any trouble with It. So would I recommend one,No. The idea is good the execution,not so.
@Dgilbertt_3 жыл бұрын
Is there any gears?
@owenissimo3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Dgilbertt_3 жыл бұрын
@@owenissimo how many?
@smooothyyy3 жыл бұрын
@@Dgilbertt_ Pinion comes with 6,9,12 or 18gears. This bike got the c1.12 gearbox with 600% gear range
@SteveGouldChewy3 жыл бұрын
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@valinedemaala94252 жыл бұрын
Where can u buy this product? Thank u
@SteveGouldChewy2 жыл бұрын
@@valinedemaala9425 zerodebikes.com
@emilposselt5607 Жыл бұрын
Rear slider is not needed mr !
@xinwang9099 Жыл бұрын
This bike was really easy to assemble kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.