BELT SANDER + DISC SANDER Record Power BDS 250 - UNBOXING & FIRST LOOK

[@louiesworkshop2023]

Hi Andreas, following our discussion I decided today after work to drive to my tool centre and I opted for the Record Power DS300 Disc Sander, the belt option would have been nice but to be perfectly honest I really only need the Disc sanding section, the DS300 is very well built and heavy, and it offers 12inchs of sanding surface so my friend i want to thank you again for all your help and valuable advice, regards Louie from Northern Ireland Ulster Workshop

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Glad I could help!

[@americanwoodworkingtrickss6543]

I have very similar model. In my machine I removed the top stop so I can sand now much longer planks. Nice film !

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

+American woodworking tricks / Stolarskie Triki Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind

[@markharris5771]

It's definitely a much stronger build than mine, and it’s obviously intended for the pro or enthusiast shop rather than the hobbyist like myself. Great video, and I liked the music.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks.

[@I-Love-Taylor-Swift]

Awesome sander - best one I've seen. Great video. I've just received a BDS150 & returned it due to a fault with the disc being loose and wobbly!

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@JENNISWISS]

cooles gerät und tolles erklähr video💪💪💪 danke für deine wertvolle arbeit andreas🍀

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Danke für diese tolle Rückmeldung, Lukas!

[@troppysholzhuette]

alles was man zum schleifen braucht in einem Gerät....schönes Maschinchen Andreas vielen Dank für dein Video lg Rene

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Danke für den Kommentar, René.

[@simonelavina6270]

Thank you for the review Andreas👍🏻

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

+Simone Lavina You're welcome. Thanks for watching.

[@DesertBumWoodWorkn]

Nice addition to your shop

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

👍

[@zappalniczka6306]

Sander looks good, thanks for nice presentation. btw. music track from 6:10 sounds exactly like Pink Floyd "Us And Them " : ) Regards

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks for your feedback - you’re right about the music. I hadn’t realized which song it was that it reminded me of …

[@mikevyvyan7060]

Hello Andreas! Thanks for making this video. I found it both interesting and informative. A great introduction and initial review. A greatr guide to setting the sander up. I would be very interested to learn your current view of the machine. Has it lived up to your expectations? What do you know consider to be its pros and cons? Any further information would be appreciated as currently this machine is at the top of my purchasing list.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Hi - I still really like this sander. It has held up extremely well and is very robust. Still use it very regularly and can’t complain. The only thing is dust collection but that - from what I know of other sanders - is a problem of this type of machine, not of this particular model.

[@mikevyvyan7060]

Thanks for getting back to me. The information in the video and with this reply is very helpful. Thank you

[@WorksbySolo]

Well done review. Good information. Thank you!

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks for watching, you’re welcome!

[@crazytimber1767]

Schöne Vorstellung von der Maschine

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

+Crazy Timber Danke.

[@teachjon]

Thanks for an informative and helpful review. I have the model 250. When I lift the belt towards the vertical it doesn't quite make it to 90 degrees. Have you found this too?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

No, mine goes to 90°

[@teachjon]

Interesting. I'll have to investigate mine further. @@holzhandwerk_ak

[@robertw.1499]

Hi Andi, just watched your unboxing vid as I'm considering buying this same Record Power machine. Got to 8mins. 45 secs. and noticed the sanding direction of the belt. It has to be wrong, for two reasons. Firstly, sanding away from the fence makes the fence redundant, and secondly, the dust extraction is useless as its under the fence and all the dust is being taken away by the belt into the surrounding air. Please comment. Thanks 👍

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Hi Robert, I can see what you mean - it sure LOOKS like the belt runs in the wrong direction. That’s not the case, however, must be an artefact of the camera shutter speed and rotation of the belt. So: the belt runs counter-clockwise and pushes the workpiece against the fence.

[@robertw.1499]

Just looked again, very carefully this time. There is a piece where you’re sanding a piece on the belt and, in this case, it does seem to be rotating towards the fence 👍

[@alfredneumann4692]

I would have threaded the holes myself. Get a threadset, it's not expensive. I could not live without one. Have you tried to change the sandpaper at the discsander? It looked like it was glued. Velcro (Klett) is better. Very interesting video. Exactly this machine is part of my wishlist. Importand would be a review in some months with your experiences. Thanks for this. Regards from the Schwabenland.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks Alfred. Yes, after this experience the thread set moved up on my to-buy list as well. The sandpaper is glued on, but there is a velcro set with discs that I’m going to buy. Thanks for your comment.

[@mbraun610]

Hi Andreas, thanks for the video. I have bought the exact same machime but I am having troubles ajusting the tration of the belt. The belt keeps moving. Any suggestions?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

I found that the when adjusting the the traction the machine has some lag - so you adjust the screw very slightly and then have to wait for a couple of seconds to see the result. If you turn too much too quickly, you have a hard time getting it correct.

[@schnickischnacki2983]

Hallo Herr Kaltenbach, können Sie mir sagen wie das Höhenmaß der gesamten Maschine ist, wenn der Tisch des Bandschleifers in die Senkrechte, also 90° gestellt wird ?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

84 cm.

[@louiesworkshop2023]

Hi Andrea's, I hope you are well buddy, can I ask you a question regarding the Record Power belt/disc sanding machine? Can you attach the heavy cast iron table to the belt section when the belt is in a lifted or upright position? Thankyou for your help, regards Louie

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

No you can only use the smaller green attachment on the belt.

[@louiesworkshop2023]

@@holzhandwerk_ak thanks pal.

[@josemanuelnavarro6637]

Hello Andreas! Thank you for your video and review. I recently added this tool to my workshop. I started using it a few weeks ago and I am quite satisfied about how it works. The only thing difficult for me about this machine is deciding the final height of the machine. I didn't buy the cast iron base and constructed a wooden one. I made a base Wich situates the belt sander to a height of 85 cm (when horizontal) which is very comfortable for both horizontal and vertical positions. The problem is that the disc sander then is so low that I have to sit in a stool to work on it. If I try to rise the base and I get the disc sander to a comfortable height, then the belt sander is really high and difficult to work. What is your experience with this tool after 2 years of working? Did you find a height that works for you?. Thanks in advance!

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Hi José. My sander sits on a surface that is about 85 cm high, which is too high (I’ve yet to make a proper cabinet on that side of the shop). But since I don’t usually use the sander for a long time, it’s ok to have the belt sander way up high and the disc sander at a comfortable height. You might try a base that’s about 70 cm, so the disc will be at about normal workbench height and the belt could still be comfortable - even though the details depend you how tall you are (I’m 180 cm). Good luck.

[@josemanuelnavarro6637]

@@holzhandwerk_ak Thank you very much Andreas. I will start at 70cm abd see if it needs any adjust in a few months of use. Happy new year!

[@DaveTheWoodBarber]

@Andreas Kalt can you please tell me the size of the drive belt? I dont want to pay £20 to RP when i could get a belt for £5. RP won't give me the information I need.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Hi Dave, sorry it took a while. Is the belt the sandpaper? I couldn’t find any measurements on it itself but here (where I got the machine), they sell a set which is labeled " 150 x 1220" which I suppose is millimeters. 150 mm wide, 1220 mm long: www.holz-metall.info/shop1/artikel9095.htm?selectedVariation[8414]=528

[@DaveTheWoodBarber]

@@holzhandwerk_ak the delay is fine but the belt I am asking about is the drive belt that goes from the motor to the belt sander.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

OK, how do I access it? Turn the machine over?

[@DaveTheWoodBarber]

@@holzhandwerk_ak not it has a cover on the back of the machine. The panel is just where the tension screw it for the sanding belt bed

[@daFunky01]

Hallo! Die Absaugung ist aber sehr schlecht? War die Absaugung wirklich an bei dem Video?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Kann ich dir im Nachhinein nicht mehr sagen, ich nehme aber an, dass sie an war. Aber ja: die Absaugung ist relativ schlecht das liegt eher am Design der Maschine und nicht an der Stärke der Absaugung.

[@louiesworkshop2023]

Thanku Andreas for your excellent and informative video, I am driving to my local tool store tomorrow and considering buying this model from Record Power, I think the only thing that scares me is the little thin support table to the belt, do you find it strong enough, does it offer proper support? Your view and opinion I would value, keep up the great videos, always enjoyable, king regards, Louie from Northern Ireland Ulster Workshop

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Do you mean the vertical stop on the left? It’s plenty strong. Thanks for your feedback!

[@louiesworkshop2023]

@@holzhandwerk_ak hi Andreas, I mean the little flat steel plate that acts as a support table for the belt, the HEAVY cast iron table in front of the disc looks plenty strong but my worry is the little green stern plate support table fixed in front of the belt, is it strong, does it flex and does it stay true, thank u mare regards Louie from Northern Ireland Ulster Workshop

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

I can see what you mean. It is sturdy, but it moves a little (doesn’t bend but wiggles in its fixation). I think it’s not meant to stay at exactly 90 degrees. If you want to sand something to 90 degrees, you’d use the disc. This little plate is just a stop for pieces pushed down on the belt so that they don’t eject to the left. For that it’s definitely strong enough.

[@louiesworkshop2023]

@@holzhandwerk_ak Thanks buddy, you have explained this very well, I think what i will do is choose the Disc Sander rather than the belt and disc, I do fine cabinet work and perfecting clean 90degree edges is most important to me and my work, thank you for taking the time to explain and answer my question, I wish you well in the future, God Bless kind regards Louie from Northern Ireland Ulster Workshop

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

👍 - By the way, I’m a great fan of Ireland and have lived in Galway for a year back in 1999/2000! All the best to you, Slán!

[@ianthornton1642]

Nice video but no more music please. I have the record power bandsaw and pillar drill both good solid machines this looks like a quality product. Look forward to an update on it in a few months. 😃

[@dmwm771]

Vielen Dank für die Aufbauanleitung. Ich habe die Deutsche Holzstar Variante der Maschine und die Anleitung dazu ist unverständlich. Zum Glück ist da nicht viel zu montieren. Also, danke nochmals für Deine Mühe !

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Gerne. Freut mich, dass das Video nützlich war.

[@opasworkshop8373]

Enjoy the new toy Andreas.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

+Opa's Workshop I will Opa :-)

[@nestorshahaf6788]

What is your opinion after one year of use? Is it worth the investment?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

It's a very solid machine. The large disc is very useful - I think it’s worth it. If you don’t need the large disc, you can get its smaller sister.

[@nestorshahaf6788]

Thank you very much for the information In my country only the big one is sold It is a little expensive I hope to buy it in the next day

[@ChinskiChat]

Well done, thanks. Is there much residue when it comes to removing that stick-on disc? By the way, I like your accent, it sounds a little like an Irish person impersonating a Swede :-) Great video - keep up the good work.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

In the meantime I have attached a Velcro Disc which stays on and makes changing the sanding discs mich easier. Thanks for the feedback on my accent. I lived in Galway, Ireland for a year. Don’t know about the Swede, though 😉

[@salvatoresalvio204]

BUON VIDEO. SALUTI SALVIO

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Grazie

[@robertw.1499]

Hi again Andi, thanks for the vid and info. This is quite a substantial machine and currently retails on Amazon.de for nearly €500,-! This vid is from August last year. Hopefully you have had the opportunity to put it through it's paces since then. Would be good to get some in-depth feedback from you as I'm planning to invest in such a machine soon. Thanks buddy 🤘

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Hi Robert, I've used the machine extensively and couldn’t find any serious issues. There’s just one thing that I’d add: the metal disc doesn’t have a velcro layer attached to it so the sanding discs are stuck on with a glue layer. I'd get a velcro disc (already got one for myself) and velcro sanding discs for easier change of discs. Otherwise I can recommend it. There’s a smaller version, too, if you find the price too high (BDS 150).

[@robertw.1499]

Thanks Andi. Will check out the smaller version too. Can one buy a "Ready to apply" velcro mat for the disc or did you manufacture one yourself?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

I bought this starter set sanding discs which includes a velcro disc: www.holz-metall.info/shop1/artikel8842.htm?selectedVariation[8149]=505

[@Z3boy]

What is the voltages & frequency?

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

230 V, 50 Hz.

[@FuzzyScaredyCat]

The music is annoyingly distracting and unnecessary. Other than that it's an interesting video.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@hgohlke]

I liked the music!! You cannot discuss taste I guess☺

[@juliusvalentinas]

You could have threaded the holes, cast iron threads like plastic. The device seems robust for woodworking perhaps OK. How loose is the angle guide on the table, does not seem to be exact fit. At least the table is held by 2 screws on either side.

[@holzhandwerk_ak]

At that time, I didn’t have a tap. I got a set of taps by now an will thread the holes at some point. The angle guide has very little play - it seems fine. But for a perfect angle, I wouldn’t use a sander.

[@juliusvalentinas]

Why, the Sorby ProEdge is designed to do just that, sharpen tools at a perfect angle. Your sander is way more heavy and solid, but as they say it's better to have straight aluminum, then chinese quality steel tooling.

[@solsdadio]

Who says that?