i really wish one league all the content creators got together and done a giga scam just to show smooth brains how smooth they are.
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
If I really wanted to do this; I could very easily. I record EVERY video in one take - live on twitch- and then IMMEDIATELY upload it. This means that any “market crashes” that happen impact me as much as they impact anyone else who watches - this keeps the integrity of what is being taught in tact. Now, if I wanted to- I would do this all offline; and then buy up EVERY material market (I have enough money to do that for almost anything in the game for a window of a least a couple hours) - and then I would sell them back to viewers. My last video , for example, I bought secondary regrading lenses at 2.2 div each - when I checked a couple hours later any stack size above 3 was at least 3 div. I initially had 98 lenses. Instead of hold onto these and sell them back for a quick ~80 div profit - I used them on the dozens of inspirations I had, recorded it - and posted it. Instead of making 80 divs, inspirations dropped by half a div on clean ones and 2 div on the corrupted ones that went +, and I lost about 75 div from what i would have had I said nothing or ~160 div from what I could have if I wanted to take advantage of you guys. People always assume the worst though. To your point- it would be VERY easy.
@theodorvallik17 ай бұрын
@@BeltonPoE But you are the MAN Belton, we will never doubt you!!
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
The first part of the video is explaining what we are doing in the "meat" of the guide and why. There is then an explanation of the parameters and what systems/tracking were in place to ensure accuracy in reporting (hence NOT CLICKBAIT in title, I didnt meant this ironically). For those of you wanting to skip the preamble/explanation and just see the "strat" execution -- timestamp: 18:20 ---- For those wanting to see the calculation of Profit per hour/data entry the timestamp is--- 43:30
@vanceturlington578810 ай бұрын
I went from dozens to thousands of divs a league following your advise and others. Stop defending yourself to these trolls. Anyone w a brain knows you are legit.
@saoulhigh285610 ай бұрын
Hey Belton, just wanted to say thank for the continuous efforts you make to palliate to the community's whims haha Amazing job, and gg on the new Excel skills!
@mmaxtg849810 ай бұрын
I've definitely made a killing on this in prior leagues, thanks for the refresher!
@echomain-gm9nr10 ай бұрын
I tried this for 4 divines worth of lifeforce, lost about 2 divines, do I need to roll more to see profit in the long run?
@m.h.490710 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for all your guides. Your flask crafting guide was the icing on the cake for me. Completely unreal how much currency I made with a simple unveil from Catarina and rolling alteration
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
That flask video along with my video on investing I think are the two best guides I’ve ever put out as they never stop working - glad you had similar results !
@tragicnate260910 ай бұрын
I find the profitabity highly dependent on the time in the league. Mid league fossil rerolling is usually huge profits. Only problem is it can be difficult to source garbage fossils mid league. So usually it is a good strategy to bulk up early on the reroll fossils. At this time it can be quite difficult sourcing 50,000 fossils to flip, but early on it is much easier.
@joelcuerrier483310 ай бұрын
This also shows that specifically for fossils. If you wanna start smaller, you can buy frigid fossils at 2 to 1c. Get all you can until you have 500 to a 1000, then sell those back. You make around 0.5c per fossil you buy. Those sort of profit by bulking up always worked for years now. Sometimes there are great disparities in how they are priced in chaos and div too. You'll find someone with 1000 fossils priced 0.5c and you can take them all for 500c and sell them back for divines are a large markup. It isn't just buying 20 at a time, sometimes there are people with huge amount priced cheap.
@kingpapai808710 ай бұрын
From Belton content I learned playing POE in different perspective. Not to be slave by profit per hour strat, instead I became slave of probability 😂
@jessekrushinsky192810 ай бұрын
i learned how to price things using the bulk tool thank you
@MandruDuce10 ай бұрын
You don't need to know the good fossils from the bad. It's even more braindead than presented. U can just take out a full inventory of top row fossils, roll all of them once, stash them back and repeat until the top row is empty. It adds little to no time to the strat. It is arguably even faster since you take out all of the decision making involved in rerolling and is completely immune to fuck ups (rerolling a good stack of fossils). It becomes solely a matter of how fast and precise you can click on the screen. Great video.
@adalbertsteiner720210 ай бұрын
Good strat. Subjective I prefer the way Belton does it. Cause your strat seems more stressful, changing to the chest each time. Most likely this take is wrong, im kinda an animal to conditioning and I like to see the result etc.
@SchwingyGaming10 ай бұрын
It really is too bad you couldn't put 69 div per hour. The whole package would've been perfection.
@ewsdsdffdasasdasdasd971410 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Don't forget you have 9k view on the last video (right now). How many people did a stupid feedback saying 'blablabla it's not exactly blabla' ? 2 ? 3 ? 3 people on 9k viewers that's less than getting a merciless prefix with alterations ! Those guys are rare drops, rare stupid drops
@miramichi308 ай бұрын
I do a lot of essence farming, and I do this with my essences. He's right, it's a great way to make currency.
@grosdaraz10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video.
@TheSacredMaster10 ай бұрын
0.9 cents per view!? *LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!*
@Tripleyou10 ай бұрын
My only complaint here is no dark mode on the excel sheet. 10/10 video apart from that. Thank you
@shinvveel509110 ай бұрын
Dang i knew fossil/essence rerolling is profit but i didnt think itd be this much. Thanks for the maths!!
@SeekNeo4 ай бұрын
You invested 136 divs and got 161 back, so you made 18% profit... for dozens and dozens of trades, buying thousands of fossils and lifeforce, to then having to bulk sell them back to the market... all of that for 18% profit, this is pretty bad
@zachstone27503 ай бұрын
Does it matter what fossil you reroll? Why not buy the cheapest fossil and only roll that?
@mattb664610 ай бұрын
I do this with deli orbs but i run the deli orbs and never tracked the profitability.. sometimes it takes 10 rolls to hit a skittering or diviners but thats still only 10c in juice, they sell for 30c vs 10c for the other deli orbs. So worst case you make about 10c per deli orb. Sometimes you roll a skittering/diviner in 2-3 rolls and make 16-18c
@nicholasfigueiredo317110 ай бұрын
This video increased the price of the harvest juice from 5000/div to 4000/div for red life force, I know because I was selling it lol it almost back to normal now
@SecondAlias10 ай бұрын
I might try and do this during league start someday. Do you think it would hold up on league start?
@khoernchen34907 ай бұрын
out of curiosity, do you know the weights for the different fossils? it would then be possible to calculate an expected value per reroll
@adamjackson75857 ай бұрын
Have you figured this out? Im litterally trying to figure this out also
@khoernchen34907 ай бұрын
@@adamjackson7585 if there is a reliable source, then i didnt find it
@Masterxdss10 ай бұрын
good video belton, you didnt had to answer to the comments saying it is a clickbait, let them think whatever they want to, who cares, right? i'm pretty sure most of them haven't watched the whole video, but anyway, thanks for trying to help who doesnt know how to make currency in their hideout haha xD
@echomain-gm9nr10 ай бұрын
are any fossils the same? do i need to buy different ones?
@Fasutorui10 ай бұрын
2 videos in a roll busting my currency making methods haha, but thanks for the videos anyways
@andersondan607710 ай бұрын
guys what is a bests gems to use lens?
@YouTookMyAccountName10 ай бұрын
Damn only 2 stacks of premium fossils?
@echomain-gm9nr10 ай бұрын
I invested 12 div into reroll, got 7 divs worth of fossils, lost 5 divs, maybe i need a bigger sample size?
@Drugsanddragonslul10 ай бұрын
This only works if low tier fossils are cheap
@dingo42609 ай бұрын
No i mentioned this in the chat also, but took my post down, after Belton had a smartass reply. Fossil prices has been going down, and juice prices up. This naturally leads to a non profit strategy at this point. He also mentioned it was because i did it on a weekend, this is also not correct, prices are still moving the same direction (towards loss) My advice: take a look at the Fossil prices in a week more, see if it changes towards better results. If not, take a run at it next league 😊
@oobaelda426410 ай бұрын
is it not better to reroll stacks of 10, cause higher tier fossils have a max stack size of 10?
@mmaxtg849810 ай бұрын
I did that in prior leagues, but it's a balance on the time cost to make the stacks of 10, plus from his data he rolled a relatively small number of 10-stack fossils. By sheer volume, the money was in deft, perfect, shuddering, bound, funamental
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
Opportunity cost assessment : Time is a more dependent variable in profitability IMO (and experience) as so few rerolls actually go to 10 from 20. Doing over 5000 fossils I would have lost less than a divine as a result of the 20->10 swap , however doing so would have DOUBLED the time required , and thus reduces the rate of return (expressed as d/hr) by a crazy amount
@myhorseisamazing588310 ай бұрын
nice gameplay!
@user-sn2ck3xr2i10 ай бұрын
not worked out for me. im down around 50 divs
@ngt518010 ай бұрын
me too xd
@user-sn2ck3xr2i10 ай бұрын
im pretty sure its working, cause i done same last league and had big profit. only reason i down 50 divs cause B posted this video and ppl get nuts in a trade site @@ngt5180
@dingo42609 ай бұрын
Everyone is down divs.. this is one of those "be the first or dont do it kinda guides" 😅 Sadly streamers cant get down their high horse to see this.
@miramichi308 ай бұрын
Do you guys not price check before investing a bunch of currency?
@dingo42608 ай бұрын
@@miramichi30 you are month late mate 😅 do you not check the dates of post? Lol
@outlink512210 ай бұрын
Thank you! ❤
@ducanh9110 ай бұрын
Simple question. How much time did you buy for everything? 😂
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
In the video. Can’t tell if this is a joke or not given the emoji- but the following statement is not a joke so use info as you wish: I am unable to tell when questions are sincere or not; I try to be as helpful and thorough as possible , and as the channel has grown , so have the amount of fools who, rather than listen and potentially gain something, look for ways to discredit or detract from any point possible , even the most minute pedantic offhand remark, not because the overall message , advice, or guide is flawed- but because they want to feel better about themselves and/or accept the fact that their are ways that are rather simple and completely legitimate that are vastly superior to how they have been engaging with the game previously. In either case , I do not care, and I am no longer willing to entertain these fools. Going forward, anyone who asks me a question, tells me that I forgot something, or “well actually...”‘s a topic that is EXPLICITLY stated in the video- that person will be blocked from this channel , forever. I am not delusional about the importance or level of investment the average person has into accessing / engaging with youtube channels about video games- but this is something I dedicate countless hours to weekly, have little financial reward from, and have spent years coming to understand at the level I do. You might not respect that, but I respect myself enough to not entertain these types of questions or people any further. Cheers
@MrFace921o8 ай бұрын
Wish you used your market analysis and understanding in real life for a day and purchased a new computer+webcam from the easy profit you would make
@UseZutube10 ай бұрын
Theoretically it is profit 68 divines/hour BUT you forget to add the time you prepared those stuffs and the time to sell them all, so the true rate may be 20-25/hr, still pretty high.
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
No, I didn’t forget that, in fact I addressed it multiple times, and altered the data to provide LOWER results juat to appease these types of comments . I’m just going to start blocking you people. You’re An absolute plague and you’re pseudo-benevolent “well actually....’s” are an assault on basic logic and human decency.
@gymlin12310 ай бұрын
i am not fanboying or anything, I'm not even in his discord (not yet :P) .. but the preperation time is a very small fraction of the total amount of time it takes to actually roll the fossils. I'm not going to tell you what the best and fastest way of preparing is, but I will promise you that you will always have more fossils than you can sell. Because the preperation of this strat is so piss easy
@roundishcap10 ай бұрын
again, good advice, but trying doing this without trade or an initial investment. GGG needs to rethink the economy. Also this will vary depending on a whole bunch of factors.
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
I don’t really understand the point you’re trying to make; I’ll flip what you’re saying into different terms but the same logic and tbis might become more apparent as to why: “Try farming drops without killing mobs or any gear”. GGG needs to rethink mapping. Your outcomes in maps are going to vary depending on a whole bunch of factors. “ 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@roundishcap10 ай бұрын
Well an arpg at its core is about killing mobs and acquiring items. Trade has outstripped mapping so much it isn't funny. If this was eve online you may have a better point. I emphatically think you give good advice, but that the game itself has same rot design wise that just drives people away. With respect, trade sucks atm, and has for awhile.@@BeltonPoE
@gustavmoritz981110 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@superking___10 ай бұрын
Lol "No clickbait" but in order to actually make 68 div/hr you would have to have ~400 div to invest initially or you would have to include the time it takes to sell everything to rebuy and continue. Not a hater but this is definitely something more suited to be titled "How you can make your vast sums of divines appreciate exponentially in value". I get it that it is still useful even from day 1, to grab some lifeforce or do some harvests and start rerolling things but its just notttttt 68 div/hour for ANYONE.
@adalbertsteiner720210 ай бұрын
Well, if u wanna go down this route also mention that if u buy the fossils clever u can easily half the cost of the fossils. The cost for the lifeforce is also much cheaper closer to the league start. While with fossils its different, some are cheaper some are more expensive u just have to do the math on it how often do they turn into the ones that actually make the currency. U can do this strat with a 10 div budget which should be affordable. But yes it gets way more comfortable with a lot of currency as nearly every strat that evolves around chances of outcomes, thats simply in its nature.
@aBait.9 ай бұрын
Next time start the timer before you buy the fossils and stop after you sell them for the actual profit/h. Also the method you showed for buying high amounts quickly at the start of the video literally showed 1 div per 100 fossils and you used 1 div pers 140 fossils in your calcs. The way you should do it is literally check how much currency you have before you start buying fossils and how much you have after selling everything. Othere than that good strat but it's worth to mention that such high margins are only possible late in the league, for people playing only at the start of leagues margins are way lower.
@mwm77610 ай бұрын
Just one of the many mechanics that kills delve haha
@009Daft60010 ай бұрын
how so? if you delve then you don't even have to buy the bad ones, just buy some lifeforce and boom, profit. Or am I wrong ?.
@berloga0310 ай бұрын
Not clickbait! (clickbait)
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
its literally not though
@KIKKAAA68510 ай бұрын
5000 lifeforce=1 divine how u want to make this profitable?
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
This is literally the topic of the video. I swear to god some of you whine just to whine sometimes
@SkritchB10 ай бұрын
TL:DR= invest early for items that have a history of going up in value, I didnt even watch the video but I know this is what he will mention.
@BeltonPoE10 ай бұрын
it is a solid piece of advice, but not mentioned here