Is marriage dead?

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@HowCharlieSeesIt
@HowCharlieSeesIt 6 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to say "I'ma go see my wife" at the end of the video!
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, true.
@futuristudios
@futuristudios 6 жыл бұрын
doing so would leave a distasteful elitist i’m better than most of you who aren’t in a economically advantageous position to be married slant to an otherwise well balanced piece. considering the point is to present a neutral perspective as opposed to a heavily bias one, no opportunity was lost, if anything disaster averted 👏 Louis Foglia
@nevad34
@nevad34 6 жыл бұрын
marriage is stupid
@jbaron8120
@jbaron8120 6 жыл бұрын
Good analysis. The problem is social and economic for men mainly. So what is the solution?
@mfriedrich2012
@mfriedrich2012 6 жыл бұрын
J Baron Solution: Return legal and financial authority to husbands such that it is commensurate with their legal and financial responsibility and accountability under the law. This will never happen since women want the upper hand, provided courtesy of the state. Men do not marry women. They marry the state.
@philu3
@philu3 5 жыл бұрын
Marriage is temporary; divorce lasts forever.
@annache250
@annache250 4 жыл бұрын
Uhhh looks like someone hasn’t watched the Parent Trap
@Worldtravelerr78
@Worldtravelerr78 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@JB-kx9bx
@JB-kx9bx 4 жыл бұрын
Lol everything's temporary well all be dead within 100 years or less.
@ImChrisLuke
@ImChrisLuke 6 жыл бұрын
What are the benefits of marriage again?
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 6 жыл бұрын
tax cuts
@0rion-u
@0rion-u 6 жыл бұрын
Visiting rights in hospital's? Other than that don't really remember.
@hoganredpill3717
@hoganredpill3717 6 жыл бұрын
I'm Chris Luke for men there are none
@britishmgtow7251
@britishmgtow7251 6 жыл бұрын
Men, nothing, women, everything
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 5 жыл бұрын
Wilson I always wondered why women can never close the lid after using the restroom it’s kind of rude. Complaining about leaving the seat up when they put the seat down but can’t close the lid find it pretty hypocritical
@hodgi3
@hodgi3 6 жыл бұрын
Shit is too expensive bruh 😭
@MattWard89
@MattWard89 6 жыл бұрын
Go to a courthouse
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n 6 жыл бұрын
Hodgie Michaels lol that makes zero sense. Nobody said you gotta have a tv wedding with a coordinator 😂
@davidlancaster4330
@davidlancaster4330 6 жыл бұрын
you right
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n 6 жыл бұрын
@Joey Snow1 that makes zero sense.. you have a dual income and you get much better tax breaks
@tomarnold7583
@tomarnold7583 5 жыл бұрын
Are you black?
@hoochill
@hoochill 6 жыл бұрын
divorce is on the decline because marriage is on the decline, nothing's changed
@tyler6003
@tyler6003 5 жыл бұрын
divorce rate is the key term not the sheer number of divorces. It is a percentage
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@Sorcerers_Apprentice 4 жыл бұрын
More people are waiting until they're really, really sure they want to get married. My mom and dad dated for about 2 years before they got married. My sister dated her husband for 5 years, then lived with him for 2 before they got married. They're treating it like the serious commitment it should be.
@colbalt95
@colbalt95 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sorcerers_Apprentice if they marry at all. The average cutoff age for men is about 36 if he hasn't decided to get married by then
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 6 жыл бұрын
It's all about the money, money, money
@lovelypolishperson5566
@lovelypolishperson5566 5 жыл бұрын
money & looks
@Fals3Agent
@Fals3Agent 6 жыл бұрын
divorce laws in my country are incredibly slanted, I think it makes men nervous about marriage
@lunayen
@lunayen 6 жыл бұрын
How slanted are they? Men will be free from responsibilities in the household and make more money while women are stuck raising the family and losing earning potential. Facts.
@abram730
@abram730 6 жыл бұрын
That is why I decided not to get married. Marriage is a dumb choice, and I am not dumb.
@ald1050
@ald1050 6 жыл бұрын
+Lunayen They are very slanted. Men still have responsibilities in paying for child maintenance whilst not being able to see their kids if there is a divorce. It is also easier for the lady to divorce as the stigma is not gone.
@ald1050
@ald1050 6 жыл бұрын
+Abram marriage only benefits the woman?
@freespeech8030
@freespeech8030 6 жыл бұрын
Marry a woman, and become a "wage slave" for the rest of your life. No thanks.
@Guitarfreak931
@Guitarfreak931 6 жыл бұрын
"Waste money on renting" yeah instead of wasting your life on mortgage
@bob15479
@bob15479 4 жыл бұрын
Get roomates, get credit and put tiny homes in the backyard and rent those. That mortgage will make you a pile in the long run and cost you same as a one bedroom apartment in the mid term.
@MsLia32
@MsLia32 6 жыл бұрын
Men getting royally screwed AND getting the blame for getting royally screwed.
@lunayen
@lunayen 6 жыл бұрын
Because most of them screwed it themselves.
@patrik5123
@patrik5123 6 жыл бұрын
In the US, yes. Here in Sweden, not so much.
@patrik5123
@patrik5123 5 жыл бұрын
@Take the red pill LOL. That's hilarious.
@tomarnold7583
@tomarnold7583 5 жыл бұрын
@@patrik5123 Well then, start having at least FIVE WHITE kids per family and there might be some hope. Good luck with that.
@acadoe
@acadoe 6 жыл бұрын
I love how balanced this channel is. I do think you missed one reason. Divorces tend to greatly favour women over men. I think many men are aware and cautious about entering into a deal that is perceived to be stacked against them.
@canemcave
@canemcave 4 жыл бұрын
society favors women over men. end of sentence.
@Charusel
@Charusel 4 жыл бұрын
It is a fact we know that is not objectively proven because of bias in the intellectual community. This guy is one of the few objective and unbiased content creators.
@mystarmach
@mystarmach 6 жыл бұрын
As women entered the workforce during the 70s-90s, that effectively doubled the labour market - meaning individual employees became less valuable, about half as valuable. That's partly why the median wage has barely risen in the past 20 years, and why you now need 2 full-time wage earners to support a household, versus just 1 before women entered the workforce en masse. So when it's said that 'men haven't held up their end of the bargain' (mentioned @ 4:44), I feel that's somewhat of a mischaracterisation.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
this is just not true not all woman went into the job market nor is that the case still there is still a shit ton of stay at home moms out there
@mystarmach
@mystarmach 6 жыл бұрын
This is speaking generally. Yes, there's plenty of stay-at-home mums, and the split between men and women in the labour market isn't 50/50 - but it's pretty damn close (and much closer than it was pre-1970). Also, another contributing factor is that during the 80s-90s, companies began to outsource work a lot more to overseas, again increasing the size of the overall labour market and further reducing the value of individual employees. So again, it's not really right to characterise the problem as 'men haven't held up their end of the bargain', as though they're all lazy chauvinists. The truth is more complex.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 6 жыл бұрын
well historically men have always been cannon fodder you just gotta deal with it
@7lol2007
@7lol2007 6 жыл бұрын
yes, I have been saying this for a very long time. Most people actually don't understand. But at the same time today women are expected to make similar and take care of the child on top of it. It is very exhausting. Alot of man won't find a partner who make way less now days as well. So now not only you have to make decent , child care falls 100% on yous till and chores around the home.
@ald1050
@ald1050 6 жыл бұрын
Mystarmach I totally agree with you. Society is now dysfunctional as a result.
@seanS196
@seanS196 6 жыл бұрын
I mean marriage for men is like giving up all the power, with a risk of losing half of everything if it goes bad. there's just no reason for men to get married anymore
@EliteSlayer542
@EliteSlayer542 6 жыл бұрын
seanS196 Prenup.
@frozenwalkway
@frozenwalkway 6 жыл бұрын
can get thrown out
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
Why would any man risk losing his house losing his children his ex wife putting a claim on all his future earnings sleeping with other men and being treated like a monster for the rest of his life. Any man who agrees to this is a fool and that’s why a lot of men are refusing to do it.
@freespeech8030
@freespeech8030 6 жыл бұрын
George Washington was a smart man. ;)
@crackhead8670
@crackhead8670 6 жыл бұрын
@@freespeech8030 didn't he kill his wife or something?
@TheFuzzypuddle
@TheFuzzypuddle 6 жыл бұрын
i'm not seeing a lot of reasons for a man to want to get married....
@alinastanescu4430
@alinastanescu4430 4 жыл бұрын
Me:"Wait, you are seeing reasons?"
@PenneyThoughts
@PenneyThoughts 6 жыл бұрын
Society should just end the concept of "legal marriage" already. It should be just a cultural thing, not a legal thing imo.
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah - but I get my wife's health benefits....
@Seatux
@Seatux 6 жыл бұрын
At least spousal benefits are a thing with America. In mine, private sector spousal benefits are rare, let alone for the kids. More like get your own benefits, then pay for the kid's health insurance, childcare/school etc.
@PenneyThoughts
@PenneyThoughts 6 жыл бұрын
Which is why we need Medicare-For-All in the U.S. ASAP! This whole "prove you love or related to someone" to get medical insurance is ridiculous!
@bryanhernandez-chambi6230
@bryanhernandez-chambi6230 6 жыл бұрын
Divorce lawyers gonna have a hit out for you LOL
@hummingpylon
@hummingpylon 6 жыл бұрын
Now that women can raise children and support a family I say men should take the opportunity and explore psychedelics and expand their consciousness. Making money is so last year.
@Sean-ll5cm
@Sean-ll5cm 6 жыл бұрын
My problem with marriage is the fear of placing trust in someone else. I don't want to be a 'part owner' in a house. I don't want to give so much of my life to someone else, because people fall out of love, it's that simple. Can I trust someone else's devotion while I myself can't ensure they have mine? I mean, most of us have been in multiple relationships, which if proof that the likelihood of relationships lasting until death is quite unlikely for some people. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing given that we can be successful without another person these days, especially in the case of woman, who were wholly reliant on men. At the end of the day, I'd rather be alone than miserable with someone else, especially if they own half of my finances.
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
Well said
@DariaRock1
@DariaRock1 4 жыл бұрын
My parents are from Soviet Union and they are still married and good friends. We are a loving family. I am so fed up of the modern times.
@LARKXHIN
@LARKXHIN 6 жыл бұрын
Marriage makes it harder to take your stuff and bounce when your partner starts acting foolish. No thanks.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
mmmm sorry to say this but you are just immature
@facemite
@facemite 6 жыл бұрын
@@theAppleWizz maybe he just doesnt wanna stick his hand in an obvious bear trap
@seri4832
@seri4832 5 жыл бұрын
@@theAppleWizz get r3kt by logic, logic'd.
@CloudTribe
@CloudTribe 6 жыл бұрын
Men make less, women make more but men are still expected to handle everything financially. In a divorce you get set back heavily and men never really recover. Theirs nothing to be gained by being married these days for men and it's very much a one way route.
@topman8565
@topman8565 5 жыл бұрын
That's not how that works
@gvis8217
@gvis8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@topman8565 what did he say wrong ?
@topman8565
@topman8565 4 жыл бұрын
@@gvis8217 theirs nothing to be gained from marriage it's a terrible way to look at things
@gvis8217
@gvis8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@topman8565 isn't that exactly what the op said ?
@jeffrey93849
@jeffrey93849 6 жыл бұрын
MGTOW is the new movement
@SpiderMan-ni8ek
@SpiderMan-ni8ek 6 жыл бұрын
And it reeks.
@greeleyestateslove
@greeleyestateslove 6 жыл бұрын
Okay have fun being alone
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
What makes you think just because your'e not married or there is no woman in your life you have a lonely life. People have friends, family and hobbies and things to keep them occupied and entertained. Not being married is an actual benefit being free to do what you want.
@hoganredpill3717
@hoganredpill3717 6 жыл бұрын
Heffrey it's not a movement it's ideology
@britishmgtow7251
@britishmgtow7251 6 жыл бұрын
MGTOW4LIFE
@shashikantvanjeri48
@shashikantvanjeri48 6 жыл бұрын
"MGTOW"
@mashamitchell9574
@mashamitchell9574 6 жыл бұрын
Not only are marriages declining, but the birthrate is below replacement levels. Who needs a spouse or kid to stress them out?
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to tie myself up to someone sharing my finances assets them spending half my money I’d rather have all the money to myself. Why would any man set himself up on a potential divorce losing his house, car, and kids ex wife putting a claim on all his future earnings child support divorce courts etc what a train wreck that could be coming his way.
@galek75
@galek75 4 жыл бұрын
Who seriously thinks that a declining birthrate is a good thing?
@80sfreak14
@80sfreak14 4 жыл бұрын
@@galek75 me, it's better for the planet and the environment. Less people means less carbon footprint, less deforestation and overall a healthier earth. Think whatever you want of me I couldn't care less and my mind about that won't change.
@galek75
@galek75 4 жыл бұрын
@@80sfreak14 Ok dogmatist.
@bananazzz6263
@bananazzz6263 4 жыл бұрын
korean shinebox he isnt wrong you know
@Macsk8ing
@Macsk8ing 6 жыл бұрын
I am against marriage but not against living together without being married. Marriage is a waste of time, you'll lose a ton of money in the process, and a divorce could potentially ruin your life with the laws that favor women and leave men in financial devastation.
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 6 жыл бұрын
You could marry an Indian girl. Her family would have to pay you to take away their daughter.
@traplover6357
@traplover6357 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know what a prenup is?
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
Traplover7 prenups don’t work divorce lawyers will wipe their asses with them
@DKL997
@DKL997 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to read and understand what Oshini Gamage wrote. It can happen to you.
@cayden3470
@cayden3470 4 жыл бұрын
Oshini Gamage just don’t live in those places and their is such a thing called a cohabitation agreement - common law marriage is not as easy to prove as you think, the person whom to live with has to contribute to your household or you have to file taxes jointly to prove it, even if it does apply to your relationship only assets earned after the common law marriage has been recognized can be split where as in a marriage everything can be split right down the middle.
@henrikswanstrom9218
@henrikswanstrom9218 6 жыл бұрын
Neither women or men are too keen about getting married or have children nowadays. It costs alot of money and is a hard committment. Love is usually pretty short term and never everlasting either which especially young people know about. It's very common that parents break up or force themselves to stay together 'for the sake of their kids' which's just a nonloving relationship. Young people and kids of today notice this. Men and women of all social classes and communities cheat on their significant others as the passion dries up. Love's nothing like Hollywood romcoms. It's also somewhat common for two people to 'get married' or have a child to try and spark something new in their life after the 'flame' is pretty much extinguished or just because of 'safety'. Finding someone who you'll mutually love forever is a pipedream. Marriage is a sacred bond often most commonly proclaimed by religious or spiritual people. As societies are becoming more urbanized, secular and leftwing these contracts are not really of much importance any longer. Right wing leaning young people seem to avoid marriage for different reasons though, often because of a distrust in women or dissatisfaction with women in general. Whatever reason people may have for not getting married it's still ultimately a pretty irrational concept. Like all relationships with friends, family or significant others, everything goes up and down in intensity and frequency. It's just more flexible to meet people and stay with them for as long as you love/like eachother's company and if it doesn't work out take a break from eachother.
@bob15479
@bob15479 4 жыл бұрын
So do you think people who want to have children should plan on raising them alone?
@pissedoffnation
@pissedoffnation 6 жыл бұрын
The economy is awful, divorce laws are slanted and people are rejected the idea of monogamy. I think the whole idea of marriage being a victory lap is good
@felixking2546
@felixking2546 6 жыл бұрын
How come you barely touched on the fact that divorce is very expensive. Thats always been a deterrent for me. Would have loved to see the numbers in a financial regard.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
mmm what about the idea that you wont get a divorce 0_0 or if you do just settle it out of court
@TheSamuraiXX011
@TheSamuraiXX011 6 жыл бұрын
You can't be afraid of divorce if you date/vet the person you marry.
@AlexKS1992
@AlexKS1992 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSamuraiXX011 Monsters and demons are good at disguising of who they are and a wise man once said and I quote, "The soul of a woman was made down below".
@user-rx2ur5el9p
@user-rx2ur5el9p 6 жыл бұрын
I just can't imagine voluntarily giving up my freedom and money and never getting to be alone, to be honest.
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n 6 жыл бұрын
I got married, but only after about 8 years of being together. (Living together for around 7) I've never understood why people think they NEED to be married, other than people watching too much TV/movies. I got married because my wife wanted to have a giant party and get gifts 😂
@metalmk6839
@metalmk6839 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the real reason they ALL want to??
@shortchubbyneckbeard1681
@shortchubbyneckbeard1681 6 жыл бұрын
...yeah, but are you happily married?
@shortchubbyneckbeard1681
@shortchubbyneckbeard1681 6 жыл бұрын
...yeah, but are you happily married?
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n 6 жыл бұрын
short chubby neckbeard absolutely! She's my best friend.
@ahmedhomar
@ahmedhomar 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds shady 8 years together then u get married for gifts. It might have been someone was bored with the relationship and wanted to marry because that would be fun to plan and organize the marriage. Sounds to me like you don't got much left with this relationship. But like always only time would tell. Good luck to you pal
@zurilift
@zurilift 6 жыл бұрын
As a 25yo dude who has a lovely girlfriend tbh I wouldn’t wanna get married even tho I am planning to spend the rest of my life with the same person. Marriage is useless 🤷‍♂️
@jajjfajsidjoigfe
@jajjfajsidjoigfe 6 жыл бұрын
Tax benefits.
@TykoBrian7
@TykoBrian7 6 жыл бұрын
jajjfajsidjoigfe don't dictate your life to get scraps from the govt
@zurilift
@zurilift 6 жыл бұрын
Exit Strategies thanx dr Phil
@infini.tesimo
@infini.tesimo 6 жыл бұрын
Exit Strategies definitely not true.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
you will loas a shit ton off money over the years oh and if you in the hospital she will not be able to get any information from the staff nor visit you. it's the law
@RealSalica
@RealSalica 6 жыл бұрын
Way too expensive , you should travel together or buy a house . Unless you have money to do all that ...and pay for a divorce and child support later , then go ahead and have your expensive party .
@wwbaker3
@wwbaker3 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, your source from Evergreen College is extremely biased. As someone that lives in WA state, Evergreen College is notoriously Left-leaning, and the degrees and programs are hardly recognized. The school is barely accredited because grades are not provided.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
really what do you mean with grades are not provided
@jimcricket8128
@jimcricket8128 6 жыл бұрын
You missed the male side of the coin. Men are skipping out of marriage because as women join the workforce they don't become homemakers which I think is at least equal to what you say about men making less money.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
mmm I have always found this stupid what don't you just both become the homemakers a team
@jimcricket8128
@jimcricket8128 6 жыл бұрын
theAppleWizz I agree. But traditional marriage were men work. Women cold rear. That was the social contract. Without that what's the benefit of marriage, a tax break? Any benefit if which is outwwighed by the loses incurred by divorce.
@vvee4725
@vvee4725 6 жыл бұрын
That's the point. There's no benefit of marriage for the guy.
@IntheEndAhNevermind
@IntheEndAhNevermind 6 жыл бұрын
@@theAppleWizz It is extremely valuable to have a parent taking care of a young child until they can go to pre-school. Woman are naturally tallented at it.
@vsssa1845
@vsssa1845 6 жыл бұрын
my parents both work, it doesn't work that way. both come home tired and want to just eat and sleep. they argue on what chores to do. in the end we have to do most chores and sometimes make dinner. i dont know about others, i'm just telling my exp.
@FawziBreidi
@FawziBreidi 6 жыл бұрын
Simple reason that divorces ends up both partners in a very hard financial situation. Splitting everything will devalue anything
@vinnievector
@vinnievector 6 жыл бұрын
The list is really endless to why men are walking away from marriage. House prices and the ability to pay for it and the risk of loosing it through job lose or divorce. The fact that you may have to sacrifice your Leisure pursuits or holiday. Women attitudes towards men. Men’s masculinity degradation. Federal or state or country believes towards men . Long term investment into a relationship emotionally and financially and then loosing it . Having to start over again. There are many more.
@aurimasb1732
@aurimasb1732 6 жыл бұрын
If relationship and trust between two persons are true, no marriage is required for validation cause you have nothing to prove and you don't have to lock yourself into relationship if you truly love that person anyway. There are benefits to marriage in certain countries but I personally don't see the value in most cases.
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
The man is too stupid to see that the woman marries him to leach off of him in a potential divorce not because she loves him. As soon as she finds out he doesn't want to get married watch how quickly she gets out of the relationship that tells you enough you need to know no marriage for validation required.
@thereaper2615
@thereaper2615 6 жыл бұрын
Divorce are in decline because marriage is in decline. Divorce/marriage is increasing because Economic stress.
@mauroangst
@mauroangst 6 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see an episode about romantic love and how it is slowly dying with every generation
@ultrararesabra6159
@ultrararesabra6159 4 жыл бұрын
Mauro angst good, romantic love is naive, immature, and fleeting.
@AzaJabar
@AzaJabar 6 жыл бұрын
As a person who is 32 and never had a relationship that lasted more than 2 years I have to tell you, marriage is not always an option for everyone, some of us just never meet anyone so the fact that we might live a short depressed life is making us happy, mainly the short part.
@colbalt95
@colbalt95 4 жыл бұрын
Marriage is a great way for two people to come together and solve problems one person can't solve alone. *_Which they wouldn't have if they didnt marry in the first place_*
@thatnewbiegaming539
@thatnewbiegaming539 6 жыл бұрын
Marriage is an important facet of society however nothing should ever superimpose quality of life.
@TigerTT
@TigerTT 6 жыл бұрын
There's no benefits to getting married for men specifically lol
@EmPulse
@EmPulse 6 жыл бұрын
Right, so you didn't watch the video at all? Women are working more and almost all people who are parents need both people to work to support their children. The deal used to be men work and women raise kids and do housework. Now women are earning almost as much as men AND still do more housework. I know I'm not going to get married to a man-child that can't cook or clean up after themselves. There's no benefit for women.
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 6 жыл бұрын
The benefit is tax cuts. It pays off if you don't get a divorce later on.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
Divorced families are typically low income where the women in that category does not have an education or stable job to be in the position of paying alimony.
@lunayen
@lunayen 6 жыл бұрын
That is completely false.
@lunayen
@lunayen 6 жыл бұрын
Since most marriages (specially older marriages) were built on the concept of women working less if at all, the alimony paid is to sustain the woman. Don't forget, the woman still reared the kids, and manned the household, things that earn NO money. And in modern times there is a rise of women who pay child support. So nope, all of this is true.
@lucaswvargas3826
@lucaswvargas3826 6 жыл бұрын
That’s it. MGTOW video responses on this video are inbound. You have been warned.
@umarmohammad6841
@umarmohammad6841 5 жыл бұрын
at 10:10 you could also argue that divorces are in decline because the number of marriages is declining, as you can see both marriages and divorces between 1980 and 2010 have similar gradients which suggest that the ratio of marriage:divorce is relatively unchanged, to support the argument of increased quality of marriage I think it would be more useful to look at the number of divorces as a percentage of the total number of marriages and if this is decreasing that would support your argument
@PeeJayBrownJr
@PeeJayBrownJr 6 жыл бұрын
Been married for 26 years and nope it's not dead. The issue is the institution of marriage it's the choice of person that people are choosing, self centered, entitled, and people going in with an exit plan verses being willing to work thru hard times. Marriage is not perfect and is always a work in progress. Many do not or are not willing to put in work and are fast to end a marriage. And there is nothing wrong with people getting married later. Most young people are not mature enough mentally or emotionally to handle all that comes with it.
@theAppleWizz
@theAppleWizz 6 жыл бұрын
what??????
@MrRishik123
@MrRishik123 6 жыл бұрын
my take is because of these college degrees and stuff, many women downright refuse to marry a man who didnt go to college. Because it is "marrying down".
@jasnmaf
@jasnmaf 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Rishi The Cookie Seriously? You are blaming the decline in marriage to the increase of women attending university?
@MrRishik123
@MrRishik123 6 жыл бұрын
Bro. Sorry if I made it unclear It's not the only factor. But its definitely one of them. www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/dating-tips-advice/why-are-women-expected-to-date-men-with-a-lower-educational-level/ there are countless cases like this woman.
@AR-dr1sb
@AR-dr1sb 6 жыл бұрын
well women probably always dated people with higher status, before they didn't have to work as it was the norm now that they do....the males who can't play by these new rules shall perish and so will the women who are unwilling to change, survival of the fittest?
@MrRishik123
@MrRishik123 6 жыл бұрын
A trader (electrician, builder, plumber etc) can make around 80k dollars per year or more especially if they have their own business with employees and such. That is part of the upper earning percentages of the US population, but just because they don't have a degree, many women refuse to date them. Anyway its still funny how differently women and men value each-other. I believe there is a video by Coltain called "the gender attraction differential". It explains how basically every woman sees themselves as more attractive than the man they are with. Thinking they are a 7 dating a 4 or a 10 dating an 8. This is prevalent in our primate cousins too, so its going to remain with us. This "marrying up in social/earning status attitude". Most women want the top 10% of men(earners). (unless the world allows harems, the math doesn't add up). Anyway according to the video most women feel like they are settling for men who are lower in attractiveness to them. So its gonna be an interesting few decades as people start to realise education doesn't matter, but the persons character.
@gustomucho81
@gustomucho81 6 жыл бұрын
It is the Walt Disney Princess dream all over again, from rags to riches because some prince fell in love because of her beauty. Yep, millenials got a fair dose of baby boomer value but in a new society where woman can be the princess and the guy be Aladin...(without the Genie)
@CitiesoftheFuture
@CitiesoftheFuture 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the future of marriage? Interesting Video! We love this channel!
@mauriciobermudez5545
@mauriciobermudez5545 6 жыл бұрын
I love BEME!
@Soaring333
@Soaring333 6 жыл бұрын
Your statement that marriages are higher quality because divorces are going down is not correct. You're just misreading the chart. The number of divorces seems pretty coupled with the number of marriages so obviously as the marriage rate decreases so would the divorce rate. Charts are easy to misinterpret.
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Both the raw number and percentage of divorces are going down: time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
But yes - good point on chart. It doesn't tell whole story.
@Soaring333
@Soaring333 6 жыл бұрын
Louis Foglia thanks. Yeah I think just maybe a different chart showing percentage would have been more accurate and less misleading. I definitely believe you are saying the facts just the chart didn't really match.
@sieglines
@sieglines 6 жыл бұрын
No talk about divorce rape for men and the antiquated idea of alimony and the lack of accountability towards child-support causing the already struggling financial male to avoid getting married.
@gypsydragongal
@gypsydragongal 6 жыл бұрын
Additionally, half of Americans make 30 grand or less and most of those 20 grand. That is the reason. Seeing the married generation before us struggle financially is quite convincing for not having kids. How to change that? Fighting for living wages, healthcare, tuition free college/Uni and UBI might do it.
@ChristinaOstil115
@ChristinaOstil115 5 жыл бұрын
Dating coaches and counselors are telling people that marriages are not important anymore. Living single is best for people than marriage.
@blaqued5186
@blaqued5186 3 жыл бұрын
Maths 101: Jobs are finite. When you give 50% of jobs to women, you end up with 50% of unemployed men or if you you squeeze women in an already packed job market, employers can cut wages due to oversupply of workers. Women don't date down, so there is no win in this situation.
@DanteWesker612
@DanteWesker612 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Marriage is dead. Same goes for dating
@unocarb
@unocarb 6 жыл бұрын
I got a vasectomy at 18 and am in my 60s now and never fallen for this trap..I'm semi retired, an avid world traveller and the body and mind of a 30 year old..life is good!
@shubhamsingh-gl1fh
@shubhamsingh-gl1fh 2 жыл бұрын
No marriage No divorce No Alimony No child support Result happy life....😎😁😁
@BluisRaw02
@BluisRaw02 6 жыл бұрын
I almost got married once..... almost doesn't count. It was close but I shook her off!
@HorkSupreme
@HorkSupreme 5 жыл бұрын
Like a bad case of fleas
@talldude5841
@talldude5841 5 жыл бұрын
Screw marriage, its not needed. Best part of this video was the ending for sure.
@BdR76
@BdR76 6 жыл бұрын
1:19 "I guess you just have to be prepared to die" well that escalated quickly.
@baconninja4481
@baconninja4481 4 жыл бұрын
That part killed me
@ShadowBeast
@ShadowBeast 6 жыл бұрын
This high-quality research is like a perfect Symphony
@gabuks1
@gabuks1 6 жыл бұрын
It's a fact that not a single person got married in the last 2 years.
@1KeyJee
@1KeyJee 6 жыл бұрын
I like how dry is your humor, is smokes my eyes when i read it
@lunayen
@lunayen 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe in your neck of the woods. Not in my case.
@ali0cha
@ali0cha 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lou & Beme! Your videos are getting better and better and what they're about is really in touch with your audience.
@toadguy9501
@toadguy9501 6 жыл бұрын
Marriage isn't completely dead yet, but it's dying at a rapid rate. All due to biased laws and judgments against men surrounding surrounding divorce in the United states. Since it's mainly men who are opting out of marriage because men are waking up to the fact that marriage has absolutely nothing to do with love, emotions, sex, children and family. Marriage in and of itself does not relate to any of these things. More men are seeing marriage for what it really is, a legal binding contract of their assests and finances. Until alimony is permanently abolished from coast to coast and until no man has to share, divide any assets or monitary investments, (such as 401k) in a divorce, and has an unalienated right by law to see his children then marriage will become extinct in the United States. What is appealing about a legal binding contract that gives all your stuff and money away ? What's appealing about inviting the government into your bedroom or family ? Marriage is only appealing to a woman because she gains everything and the man loses everything. Its all loss and no reward. No man walking and breathing at any moment can give even one single good reason to get married or be married. Not one.
@atheamarcosamir5633
@atheamarcosamir5633 4 жыл бұрын
You are very articulate and well organized. I appreciate that when so many people with apparent speech disorders makes these videos.
@rawn_el3812
@rawn_el3812 6 жыл бұрын
That end credits video, is that a real thing or from a movie? Need source.
@patcoston
@patcoston 6 жыл бұрын
4:43 who ever created that animation doesn't seem to understand which way a rock rolls when pushed up a hill
@madsengelund6166
@madsengelund6166 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a balanced discussion Lou. It is a topic that easily falls to extremes. .
@1KeyJee
@1KeyJee 6 жыл бұрын
I love my gf, I am happy with her, we live together, but I don't want to get married with anyone, why do i need that contract. It's waste of money, and no huge benefits. We can have a good family with her without getting married.
@ultrararesabra6159
@ultrararesabra6159 4 жыл бұрын
M H S till they hit you with that common law. relationships are for lames.
@thereaper2615
@thereaper2615 6 жыл бұрын
Marriage is "cheaper"? Really? I am positive that marriage and the (almost certain) divorce later would be very expensive.
@TheJttv
@TheJttv 6 жыл бұрын
Weedle Guy you get certain legal perks by being married. Taxes, healthcare, loans
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 5 жыл бұрын
Jttv you’ll be paying more in divorce then you are paying taxes not being married you’ve seen the divorce rates
@musok8976
@musok8976 6 жыл бұрын
You dont have to get married to have a family and live your life with someone else.
@Hodgmo
@Hodgmo 6 жыл бұрын
Today is actually my anniversary, 38 years with my wife. I know things change but it seems very hard for younger people to have a household like the "old" days. Great video as usual and some great thoughts to ponder about.
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Anniversary!
@sleepycowboy18
@sleepycowboy18 6 жыл бұрын
Happy anniversary! 👏🎊
@benlotus2703
@benlotus2703 3 жыл бұрын
“Marriage isn’t incentivised, divorce is,” Nicholas Cage LoL QUESTION ; How is a wife like a hand grenade? #### ANS : Remove the ring and house disappears!
@kikianasahmad2328
@kikianasahmad2328 6 жыл бұрын
I'm RIGHT WINGER and I think this channel is NOT fake News. Very objective!
@yurichtube1162
@yurichtube1162 3 жыл бұрын
Hook up culture is to blame
@bostonmassacre508
@bostonmassacre508 6 жыл бұрын
Mate!! Your gonna end up divorced soon don't worry it happens to everyone... marriage is way over rated
@spencerhon4430
@spencerhon4430 6 жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed over time is that it's becoming a necessity that both parents work to provide for their family. There's a lot of factors at play that are making this happen, but it just can't be a good thing for any culture.
@hyouzanren1846
@hyouzanren1846 6 жыл бұрын
i blame on economy!
@CronicGaming94
@CronicGaming94 6 жыл бұрын
Fewer people live on their own too and more people share cars. Economy.
@briancalifornia1
@briancalifornia1 6 жыл бұрын
Kerry Cronic right and people have the nerve to judge
@chengliu872
@chengliu872 6 жыл бұрын
A reason for the delay in marriage is the rising cost of weddings. Here in the SF Bay area, it is all but impossible to have a non extremely spartan wedding unless you spend well over $10,000 unless maybe if you happen to have connections.
@dancooper455
@dancooper455 5 жыл бұрын
MGTOW
@stressfree9780
@stressfree9780 5 жыл бұрын
Marriage doesn’t mean anything- it’s just a label.. Oh wait - it’s worse than that ! Its actually is different - it gives the women everything and a man nothing So now think about - why would any sensible men put themselves into a marriage contract - when the contract is Tilted against men.... that’s why successful men do not get married
@adrianstanko2515
@adrianstanko2515 6 жыл бұрын
You say that the number of divorces is on a decline. But what about relative value (divorced/undivorced)?
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
The percentages of marriages that end in divorce is on the decline. time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/
@metalmk6839
@metalmk6839 6 жыл бұрын
Because the marriages that would've have ended in divorce never took place to begin with
@Jebusmike3
@Jebusmike3 6 жыл бұрын
Sex is free, marriage is not. Makes sense to me lol
@bluwurbinx
@bluwurbinx 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, I think you have lied about number of divorces declining. If less people is getting married, then there are less divorces. Indeed the slope on the figure you showed at 10:10 for marriages is steeper than for divorces. This means that normalized to number of marriages, divorces are on the rise. And I had such a good opinion about this channel...
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Divorce rate among married people is going down: www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/anderson-divorce-rate-us-geo-2015-fp-16-21.html
@bluwurbinx
@bluwurbinx 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is clear in the resource, but not on the plot you used.
@ReturnOfTheJ.D.
@ReturnOfTheJ.D. 4 жыл бұрын
When people ask "why did the Spanish Flu or 1910 kill 50 million people", they forget that people often died ridiculously young by modern standards then - 45 was an old man, and their general state of health was much worse than today. They forget the environment at the time that was responsible for peoples' general state of health. When people ask "why are marriages in decline" they also forget the environment that created that. It's not so much about the individuals - it's about the situations they are put in. In 1920 it was poor health, inadequate nutrition, substance abuse and in 2020 it's biased divorce laws, high living costs, low wages, insecure work, high housing costs and women who don't need men to live well. People do not change as fast as their environments do - yes people were quite different psychologically 100,000 years ago or even 30,000 but rate of change of the human species is much slower than the rate of change of the environment around them - economic conditions, social norms, workplaces, types of entertainment, travel options etc.
@DanCroitor
@DanCroitor 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis 👌
@the77th
@the77th 6 жыл бұрын
#MGTOW
@JinnYoungKim
@JinnYoungKim 6 жыл бұрын
The man or woman who is trying to get married, I really want to tell them consider. That's just a stupid decision.
@Super-yw7ss
@Super-yw7ss 3 жыл бұрын
In the USA, YES!!!
@defcon12
@defcon12 6 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly informative, good job 👍🏻
@johnj3636
@johnj3636 6 жыл бұрын
I live next to a university that is almost 75% female I’d be more excited about feminism if I could flurt with one of them with out getting asked how much I make ( I’m actually really cute)
@siimseiin
@siimseiin 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode !!! Thank you
@pending6423
@pending6423 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you can say "divorce is on the decline" if you look at the figure your presented, marriage rate is declining faster than divorce. It's seems like likelihood of divorce is same for married couples even though overall number is reduced.
@LouisFoglia
@LouisFoglia 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe this clarifies: www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/anderson-divorce-rate-us-geo-2015-fp-16-21.html
@pending6423
@pending6423 6 жыл бұрын
thank you, i must have misunderstood the graohic. Love the channel! p.s. do you think you can number the sources for easy reference?
@admagnificat
@admagnificat 6 жыл бұрын
Great work, Lou and company. Thank you.
@zethphyrzinnia0713
@zethphyrzinnia0713 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agreed with LOU, we need a "quality marriage" rather than quantity....meaning that both men and women should have financial stability then only think about marriage and kids.....
@africaidentify
@africaidentify 6 жыл бұрын
Lou done did it again! Excellent piece mi compadré... Thank you.
@GingerWritings
@GingerWritings 5 жыл бұрын
Another angle could be that marriages where more a thing the rich did, and many people into the 1800s were not so much married by law then by common law. Marriage was something that may have risen, and is falling, with the middle class, going forward.
@JoelReid
@JoelReid 6 жыл бұрын
Divorces may be n the decline... but that figure may not include couples who have been together for years in a de-facto marriages (ie. a marriage in everything but name). Those de-facto relationships can often be equal to a divorce in many aspects.
@axelgraham6928
@axelgraham6928 6 жыл бұрын
4:40 so the workforce doubles with first wave feminism and men are supposed to be able to make the same amount with twice the amount of competition (not even mentioning affirmative action). What lunacy.
@patrickspooner3029
@patrickspooner3029 6 жыл бұрын
For everyone outside of new York and LA, marriage is fine... jesus...
@tjlawal570
@tjlawal570 6 жыл бұрын
This guy explained low marriage rates 20x better than those fake news outlets trying to explain it. Good job lou!
@JoshPaulie
@JoshPaulie 6 жыл бұрын
The ring was on the wrong hand @ 7:49 :( beme explain yourself
@KombiLife
@KombiLife 6 жыл бұрын
please can you reduce the number of "engaging" pop up on the screen, I'm trying to listen to what Lou is saying and they are friggin distracting.
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