Ben Heck's Console Wars: PlayStation 1 vs Nintendo 64

[@sniper007uk]

I had both consoles and have no bias, but how can you summarise PS software without mentioning Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Wipeout, Metal Gear, Tekken & Final Fantasy? Crazy!! Plus my all time favourite racing series Ridge Racer!

[@ZG0002]

Neil Beatson totally agree, these guys are clearly Nintendo bias. Wipeout 2097 with its sound track aimed not at kids but the 20 something's. Sony nailed it with their target audience. Oh and that little known rpg Final Fantasy....

[@EnigmaGameMaster]

Jet Moto 1, 2, 3, 4, Moto Racer 1, 2, Tomb Raider 1, 2, 3, 4, Legend of Dragoon, Spyro 1, 2, 3, Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, 3, Steel Reign, etc.

[@brandonselitetv1436]

Neil Beatson Tomb Raider was Actually on SEGA saturn first and I assume your talking About Metal Gear Solid which is the Reboot of Metal Gear

[@ZG0002]

RevolveTechUSA 99 Tomb Raider was released on the Saturn less than a month earlier, then went on to be a PlayStation Exclusive for years after, don't be a ****

[@TheBrainScratcher]

K&E Photography in the retro community there's this misconception that TR was a saturn franchise...

[@airspeedmph]

The acrylic screwdriver trick, that was neat.

[@RWL2012]

The "original" PS1 you refer to with the parallel port actually was the second model. Additionally, the very first model of PS1 also had standard yellow-white-red AV jacks and RFU power jack in addition to the AV Multi Out port.

[@kpag3030]

RWL2012 that’s the one I had.

[@hp5469]

Are you sure ?? What are the model numbers ? So you are claiming the original didnt have the parallel port ?

[@Crimson_Logic]

H Peli Original had the parallel port too. It had it from the beginning. Then Sony started taking bits away. First went the red, white and yellow connection, in their first revision. In the second revision, the parallel port was removed and the 3rd revision is the white PS One. On another note. The original PS was notorious for the laser struggling to read discs after a couple of years of heavy useage and you'd have to play it upside down. My brother had an original one and that's how we had to play games on it in 2000.

[@MH-yp6wg]

Actually, the very first was the japanese SCPH-1000, which also had a seperate S-Video port. None of the US- or european models had this.

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@hp5469 that's how I interpreted it too lol.

[@kazolar]

This brings me back -- Goldeneye was on our dorm room TV seemingly 24-7 with 4 people playing it at any given time. Plus we spent many hours playing Madden on the PSX -- ohh college. I feel old.

[@marccaselle8108]

By the time I went to college the PS2 was about to come out.

[@adamsfusion]

10:09 "The development kits for the N64 had better support and were cheaper than the N64 equivalent." Gotcha :>

[@brandonpierce9868]

There is no need for this war. Both consoles have a special place in my heart.

[@bobhills4702]

Brandon Pierce No they don't. You like the PlayStation more. You just don't want to admit it.

[@spiritwolf7000]

My lord.

[@axelfoley20]

@@bobhills4702 I know I can admit I love the Playstation more myself. The N64 was a bit of a letdown. I imagined far more power than it had. It was essentially 32 bit anyway, at least the graphics were on most games. Had it been a CD based system, things might have been much different.

[@worawatsr9803]

Playstation kicked Nintendo’s butt.

[@fossilfern]

Would love to see a proper breakdown of the Saturn.

[@fireheartis1]

I second that.

[@sega-kid]

A side by side with the playstation would be good

[@doug6394]

If I remember the GPU of the N64 was designed, or designed with Silicon Graphics Inc. This company pioneered early 3D for movies and simulators.

[@MegaRayland]

Indeed it was. Most of the pre-launch promotional push for the console was the fact that the chips in the hardware were being developed by Silicon Graphics. They even promoted the early specs as "capable of rivaling what you see in movies". ;)

[@Lilithe]

1:25 "One more connector" Well, it had composite out RCA jacks in the first iteration too.

[@f_papp]

Ben, I'm a ham radio operator, and a very small group of us use that ancient tv system that you were talking about, we call it NBTV Narrow Band Television. You can find a lot of software online to encode video into NBTV format. Maybe you can try to build the mechanical part of the tv and then connect it to a computer (Raspberry Pi) that receive the NBTV from a FM radio, like a PMR446 walkie-talkie, another walkie-talkie transmit the NBTV video encoded from a computer far away. So you can view video via radiowaves like if we were in '20. I would love it. Sorry for bad english. 73(Goodbye) from Italy!

[@federiosss]

WTF? Where's Metal Gear Solid?

+Federico Rios Yeah

[@benhall4162]

+Federico Rios Metal Gear Solid it was a great game to

[@AhmetT1996]

+ben hall ehm, the best for the ps1, to be accurate

[@robclaridge6236]

+Federico Rios Konami would probably serve a copyright infringement on Ben if he even mentioned MGS. Then have him arrested, beaten to death with his own testicles and start WW3. They aren't the most layed back company are they haha

[@iamkailong]

Fun fact, ps1 is still being use today as a high end cd player by a lot of enthusiast, you can see tons of ps1 mod to make it a cd music player.

[@doug6394]

The pure volume of the PS library really made this a non contest. Except for a couple dozen AAA titles, the Playstation lineup just trounced the N64s. Nintendos first party titles are the primary reason anyone would opt for it over the PS.

[@TenchiJeff]

I remember a Spider-Man game that was released for both systems, and the Nintendo version didn't have any of the animated scenes, they were replaced with images and text. The CD format gave the PS1 a more immersive experience.

[@TekMoliGy]

yea having 500 extra garbage games certaintly is great... >: (

[@TekMoliGy]

n64 had quality over quantity. and they were much more strict on what they let on their console so you were much less likely to end up buying a garbage game since a much smaller percentage of the library was less than a 5/10 compared to the ps1

[@themetroid1202]

nate so true

[@holzmann-]

Graphics: N64 Games: both, depends on the genre Power (besides graphics): PS1 Controller: PS1

[@kironoschannel]

Another great PS1 game is Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver. Although I prefer the Dreamcast version. It just looked and sounded better.

[@ElBribri]

+Kirono Hasama Soul Raever, Defiance, Soul Reaver 2, Blood Omen 2...and the cancelled sequel Dead Sun....so sad it was cancelled

[@kironoschannel]

Dead Sun looked SOOOO awesome.

[@ElBribri]

Kirono Hasama yeah...stupid corporate people sometimes are cluless about what people would spend all theri money on.

[@kpag3030]

Kirono Hasama Great game. The original... Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain is the best in the series in my opinion however

[@bangerbangerbro]

Isn't that that game where the Dreamcast version looks exactly the same?

[@Raptor3388]

Syphon Filter, Metal Gear Solid, Need for Speed III, Resident Evil and Medal of Honor are the PS1 titles that I played over and over and still gladly go back at them now. I didn't have an N64 and none of my friends had one either.

[@KingGameReview]

No FF7 or Metal Gear? wtf. those were the best games for the PS1.

[@kaihedgie]

Metal Gear Solid, undoubtedly. FFVII however, is a mixed bag. You're gonna get wildly different answers depending on who you ask

[@kaihedgie]

***** "FFVII is one of the best games ever made" And yet there exists countless others who think it's overrated or the worst in the series It has nothing to with being a "hipster". It just does not really live up to that kind of hyper, in or out of the Final Fantasy fanbase

[@jet613]

+kaihedgie i wasnt very interested in ff7. Its just as you say everyone has their own opinion.

[@ZunaZurugi]

Not to mention that even FF7 Fans didnt get all of the story... the death of aerith for exempel, most people just say it was Sephiroth... like they didnt even follow the story just remember the cutscene. 7 and 8 are great for them self but i prefered the More Fantasy and less Sci Fi Final Fantasy games. THats why i like FF9 more. Mhhh but i also like 13-2 which is sci fi again.

[@foufoufun]

I'm one of those guy who thinks FF7 is pretty overrated. It was a good game and I enjoyed it but to me, it would have been the master piece everyone is claiming only if the characters were 2D sprites. Honestly, the chibby characters look ugly as fuck even for 1997's standards. It's like they made the battle system at the very end and didn't have enough time/resources to remake the overworld characters/animations. Just have a look at Breath of fire 3 which came out the same year. The backgrounds might not look as good but the 2D sprite characters are much more interesting to look at.

[@ReedLove]

10:09 "The development kits for the N64 had better support and were cheaper than the N64 equivalents." I think you meant "for the PlayStation One". Also, the MJPEG hardware decompressor was a huge win for PlayStation One's smooth FMVs.

[@traviscombs6947]

Actually, the original North American PS1 (SCPH-1001) not only had the parallel port, but also had a built-in composite connector, in addition to the AV Out connector. I have two SCPH-1001s in a box in an extra bedroom. The Japanese launch models even had an S-Video port built-in I believe.

[@MMasterDE]

+Travis Combs Got one of those too, EU version though. First EU version, got it like a couple of months after it was released.

[@JaySee5]

+Travis Combs Beat me to it.

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

+Travis Combs Yup, my PS1 from 1998 (North American NTSC model) had the parallel port. I had a "virtual memory card" that connected into the parallel and tricked the system into thinking it was an actual memory card, but I can't think of anything else that used the port other than dev kits. Technically it could've been used for a number of things like a modem (a modem was made available for the Sega Saturn in Japan), printer, hard drive, etc. I've always wanted to see someone make a PS1 run Linux LOL.

[@intheblues]

Hi Ben, How would you go for backwards (or forwards) engineering a retro console with current technology but still keeping the cartridge slot? For example: Rebuilding a PS1 or N64 with something like a current intel/amd CPU, HDMI output/Video Cards and DDR Ram etc. Would an idea like that be possible or do the games only run on certain architecture? Many thanks and keep up the great work. Shane.

[@whatsmyname481]

+intheblues yeah, i think its not possible due to architecture, i dont know much about tech like this guy does, but most of the current consoles dont have backwards compatibility due to different architectures, xbox one does have backwards compatibility but thats because it emulates the games. Remember the 600$ ps3 era, i think it was so expensive because it had a ps2 shoved inside, when they got rid of that (slim models) it got cheaper and started having less heating problems etc. but im nowhere close to being a tech expert, so take what i said with a grain of salt, besides that, i think it would be a waste, would be like buying a quad 980 ti sli machine to play minecraft, you wouldnt use 99,99% of its power

[@H2Oredfirefox]

no way you didn't have Silent Hill in that list lol

[@SarahLJP]

I have an original model PS1, the SCPH-1001. It had an issue with FMVs. I love both consoles. I still have both.

[@TorqueEffect]

N64 was the best for me. I'm 25, so I was young when the N64 hit, so allot of the games appealed to me. Allot of the games looked vastly better than the PS1 equivalents, and the N64 hands down had the best multiplayer experience, no one wants to buy a stupid multi-tap to have 4 players. I did eventually get a PSone, the slimmer model shortly after the PS2 had come out, and mainly used it to play Grand Turismo 1 and 2, and Crash Bandicoot games, some Spyro, but not much else.

[@kd9262]

Which games looked'vastly' better on n64? lol it couldn't even handle FMV's.

[@lord_deus]

PS1 VS N64?? I love them both... N64 for FPS games and 3D action adventures PS1 for JRPG

[@Silvergun_Raven]

I loved the PlayStation, Nintendo 64, AND the SEGA Saturn :)

[@SharifSourour]

Medal Honor is an awesome choice! The score, the sound design and production on it was groundbreaking for the time.

[@schtive81]

Do a tear down of the Sega Saturn next!

[@nebulosa553]

Both systems had amazing games. N64: 1080 Snowboarding, Banjo Kazooie, Beetle Adventure, Blast Corps, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Diddy Kong Racing, DOOM 64, F-Zero X, GoldenEye, Ocarina, Majora, MarioKart 64, Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros, Perfect Dark, Pokemon Stadium 1&2, Pokemon Snap, Star Fox 64, Star Wars Rogue Squadron, Star Wars Racer, Turok, Wave Race 64, Yoshi's Story. There are some more for the N64 but a lot of these are straight ports. I'm not hugely knowledgable on this library but I think from whats in this list you get a fucking amazing experience and a wide enough array of different games (except for RPG's which the 64 just outright was dog poo) to keep you satifsied for a whole generation. PS: Armored Core, Breath of Fire 3-4, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Colony Wars, Command & Conquer Red Alert(Retaliation is even better), Crash Bandicoot 1-2-3, Devil Dice, Dino Crisis, DOOM (Quite possible the best port of this game up till that point), Driver 2, Kingsley's Adventure, Final Fantasy I-II-IV-V-VI-VII-VIII-IX-Tactics, Gran Turismo 1-2, Klonoa: Door to Phantomile, Kula World, The Legend of Dragoon, Medievil 1&2, Metal Gear Solid, Oddworld Abe's Oddysee-Exoddus, Rayman, Silent Hill, SoulEdge(blade), SkullMonkeys, Spyro 1-2-3, Syphon Filter 1-2-3, Tekken 3, Time Crisis, Tomb Raider 1-2-3, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Twisted Metal 1&2, Vib Ribbon, WipeOut XL(2097)... I think that'll do. My overall experience with the N64 is that its built off its first party titles. The Nintendo games on that system went on to practically define what some of the series games became, such as Zelda (Ocarina of Time is literally the highest rated video game ever made on Metacritic), Mariokart, Smash, Mario 64 (which is one of the most important games ever made as it redefined platforming forever). On the other hand, third party was Sony's strength, allowing for a ridiculously diverse library of good and bad and was the main reason that there were more weird and experimental games on the PS (ie, Fluid, PaRappa the Rapper, Music, etc.) but there were some games on PS that were also extremely important IMO, like Metal Gear Solid (First real-time in engine cutscenes and innovative story-telling format). Final Fantasy VII, love it or hate, redefined RPG's forever and started the RPG boom on the whole console leading to a huge shift in the gaming industry. Gran Turismo was very important in pushing racing games to the simulator realm. Here are some negatives for both systems. The N64 was designed internally like shit. Developers hated it, 64mbs of cartridge space was just pitiful, draw distance was very limited in detailed environments (hence heavy use of fog to hide this in some games) and polygon count wasn't as good as PS1. Nintendo were just absolute pricks about giving out their code library to developers and the N64 controller was also unappealing to a lot of people. PS1- texture warping looked like shit. Dithering is something that was rampant in PS1 and while you couldn't notice it on CRT's back in the day, it affects a lot of games now (MGS, Silent Hill). 1st gen of PS1's had crappy laser racks and you had to turn them upside down to get them to work. Lots of really, really shitty or average games from hack developers looking to make a quick buck (look up Phoenix Games) due to having the same problem the NES had- wide third party support- even though I'd say amount of good games on the PS is higher, the N64 library was more consistent quality-wise. Ultimately, regardless of hardware, both consoles have some of the best games ever made. I have to say I don't think you guys really made any effort to try to find good examples of ps games... Medal of Honor?? pfft. okay. Not that its bad... Serious bias towards N64 though. Kinda cringe. that took a while to write lol

[@BlackTownie999]

The original playstation also makes for a VERY High quality yet VERY Cheap CD Player rivalling the quality of unites costing close to a thousand bucks. So it also has that going for it, which is nice.

[@MrSlashStudios]

Seriously? It only has stereo RCA out, so no optical. I don't think a $5 system would even be close to a $1000+ system.

[@Naitoraven951]

Nope....first of all, SONY use veeeery high quality component. 2nd, the SCPH-100x use a OPU (KSM-440AAM)with ABS quality but was damaged by PSU overheating. So, good quality ruined by too much heat And 3rd....the PS is not an audiophile system. It have the AKM DAC but, it's not an high end CD PLAYER.

[@BlackTownie999]

Naitoraven951 Thank you for elaborating on it. And to the other guy, how many people actually use optical? In my experience....not very many.

[@MrSlashStudios]

Jay Simons Well, digital signals don't have any degradation so I think many audiophiles use it. Maybe I'm talking out of my ass because I don't know much about this stuff.

[@BlackTownie999]

MrSlashStudios No, Optical really is the best way to get that clean audio signal...But for what the PS1 is its really good.

[@ikingpinikp]

For me it was about hanging with friends and playing 64 wcw vs nwo...4 player....goldeneye...perfect dark....gauntlet legends....so many good 4 player games.

[@ChrisFredriksson]

Nice video! Ever thought about a versus gaming video, in which the Ben Heck team plays a game against each other? Like Goldeneye? Would love to see who of you wins that ;) hehe

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

I'm interested in how the console's respective technical limitations resulted in each's unique looks. Like how N64 games look cleaner but less textured or something (like compare Tekken 3 and Metal Gear Solid to Majora's Mask or Banjo, or something). I think a lot of this has to do with the increased power but limited RAM space and texture buffer of the N64 compared to the PS1. Some discussion of this would be interesting to me.

[@chrismifsud7154]

I love the N64 but SoTN on PS1 absolutely kicks the butt of anything on the N64.

[@bobmalibaliyahmarley1551]

Funny story, back in the days-- a PS1 was actually one of the better choices for a music entusiast, Sony was already pretty much in the sound business so the sound system of the PS1 was pretty high quality compared to alot of CD players and audio outputs at the time. Yes, people actually also used it as a CD music player, and not only a gaming console.

[@EnigmaGameMaster]

The PS1 had a better library of games. For example, Jet Moto 1, 2, 3, 4, Moto Racer 1, 2, Tomb Raider 1, 2, 3, 4, Legend of Dragoon, Spyro 1, 2, 3, Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, 3, Steel Reign, etc. It also had better graphics at the end of its cycle, some games on the PS1 actually look better than most PS2 games.

[@lucifursanarchy5202]

And Croc: Legend of the Gobbos:D

[@chooky4626]

GOLDENEYE .

[@Boscoand]

Enigma That's very Bias. I like n64 more because I can just sit down and play a little bit, where with ps1, all the rpgs take way too much time. Its kinda why I prefer the Turbografx 16 over the snes. Plus I no longer have alot of enjoyment with most RPGs these days. Final Fantasy 7 was overrated in my opinion. Chrono cross or even the one you mentioned, Legend of Dragoon were much better RPGs. I won't deny FF7 had a great story, but the game itself wasn't as great as everyone made it out to be. And trust me, I played hours and still got board with it. I personally prefer N64's library. But just know that I'm not bias against PS1. Its just not my style as much as the N64 library is. The PS1 is still great in its own right.

[@MrTBoneSF]

The reason textures warp on the playstation when close to the camera was that the ps1's gpu can't do perspective correction. The texturing is treated as a linear 2d operation, and 3d projection is a non-linear transform. The textures will look fine when facing the camera but if they are at an angle, the textures appear to distort when in fact the issue is they aren't distorting the way should (non-linearly). The closer they get to the camera, the more obvious the distortion is. Weirdly enough, they fixed the issue with perspective correction for textures in the PS2, but they still did color shading as a linear operation. That's why the lighting on polygons always looked a little off on the PS2 compared to the Gamecube and Xbox. Sony always seemed to emphasis speed over correctness in their chips and developers refer to them as "stupid fast".

[@zebilaweed]

32 bit consoles: PSOne VS N-32

[@InstrucTube]

+zebilaweed yeah that was my thought too. the 64 just by the name was NOT a 32 bit system...

[@micheals1992]

+zebilaweed once we got into 32 bit proccessors there wasn't really much to gain from 64 bit... you can even run some next gen games on 32 bit instruction sets

[@zebilaweed]

That's not what we're talking about, he said "32 bits console wars" watch the video,.the N64 was not a 32 bits console, but a 64 bits console, hence the name. (and he explains that in the video, it's a 64 bits console but most likely used as a 32 bits one if I understood)

[@residentdoom1]

+InstrucTube If you would watch the video. He explained that while it is 64bit most games were 32bit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/roWbkIRtgKyWpcUm41s

[@InstrucTube]

Residentdoom I'm aware, I just posted early and didn't feel like editing it.

[@soterioncoil2163]

Turok: The Dinosaur Hunter is why I acquired and still own an N64 and Soul Blade was why I originally purchased a PS1. Game favorites are Blast Corps (N64) and Tomb Raider I - III (PS1) as well as the Castlevania titles for both systems.

[@mncpoops4005]

10:08 I don't understand this statement? Did he mean to say PS1 somewhere in that sentence?

[@MegaRayland]

Yeah, he made a mistake. He meant to say "the development kits for the PSONE were cheaper than the N64 equivalent ones".

[@Vamptonius]

The best game ever made was the follow-up to Goldeneye, Perfect Dark. Where Rare decided to ramp up what they'd made for the Bond game to the next level. It needed it's own RAM pack that was twice the size of the standard one just to play either the multiplayer or single campaign (I can't remember which). On another note, my PS1 has the extra port you mention, does this make it an antique?

[@marccaselle8108]

Also with perfect Dark, if you didn't have the ram expansion pack, you couldn't play the single player missions.

[@Vamptonius]

@@marccaselle8108 I only noticed that when I removed it for another game and forgot to switch it back again.

[@jasonpatterson8091]

How do you not mention Final Fantasy VII?!?

[@65oh7]

+Jason Patterson When they probably didn't want to spend enough money to buy a disc copy of the game to model in this video.

[@kpag3030]

Jason Patterson Obvious

[@spikederailed]

There was actually an even older model 94-96 that also had composite A/V out ports into into it. The earlier models also had 8Mb of VRam vs MOST of the units that exist with 8Mb of SGRam.

[@Turniplord]

"Nintendo64 - the 32 bit console....." - would have thought the '64' in the name gave it away that the up is 64bit

[@benmasonick3848]

Nah most games were 32bit cause of storage and the difference is negligible. it's really just a fancy name when the hardware wasn't actually used what it was marketed as.

[@Elmion]

If im not mistaken the CPU in the PS1 was a MIPS R3xxx and in the N64 its was essentially a SGI O2 that was stripped down

[@Lavagemstomacal]

Dude, do a Sega Saturn and PS1 comparassing :D

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

+Julio cezar Silva I can tell you that the Saturn is as complicated as the PS1 and N64 combined. No joke.

[@KuraIthys]

+Blitzvogel Mobius Yeah, I saw and read some stuff about it... Wow. Including specialised stuff like audio and video it had six processors, and a ton of really convoluted stuff going on. It makes the 'difficult' N64 look really easy by comparison.

[@Lavagemstomacal]

Yeah, I know, The sega satun was terrible to program, but had only 2 years on the market, the ps1 had around 10 years! The programmers didn't even had the time to explore the saturn better, anyway, would be fun to see a sega saturn episode on ben heck :3

[@lucaformenti4350]

PS1 win 3d games, Saturn win 2d games

[@costumeninja1914]

Julio cezar Silva it has more than 2 years, especially in Japan.

[@TheRunefox]

The PS1's polygon warping wasn't a flaw in the hardware so much as it was that the hardware wasn't fast enough to do floating point math for polygon coordinates (subpixel accuracy) with usable speed. The PS1 *was in theory* capable of a high-accuracy mode similar to the N64, but at crippling performance cost and AFAIK never used; Conversely, the N64 was capable of a low-accuracy mode like the PS1 for better performance, but Nintendo forbade it to give the N64 a visual quality advantage. The PS1 also lacked a Z-buffer (for sorting polygons by depth in the scene), meaning that polygons in close proximity would visually overlap and flicker. The N64 did have a Z-buffer, but it required a lot of memory to use. The PS1's texture warping was a result of using what's called affine texture mapping. What this means is that since each object is made of triangles, the textures weren't "aligned" relative to the triangles, but instead to the camera. As the camera moves, it "guesses" at what the correct appearance should be, and since one triangle is often closer than another, that results in the wavy, often jumpy textures the PS1 was known for. The N64 uses perspective-correct texture mapping, which eliminates this issue. As a side note, the Saturn used quadrilaterals instead of triangles for rendering, which made this a non-issue. Quads could also render rounded surfaces more easily, but the industry settled on triangles since they were faster and simpler to render. Quads are still in use for 3D modelling since they're cleaner and easier to work with, but are almost always converted to triangles for rendering. The N64's blurriness was a result of its use of texture filtering to smooth the appearance of low-resolution textures. Which is normally fine, but it uses a unique, cut-down 3-point filter instead of 4-point (better known as bilinear), resulting in that trademark blur. That, and a *4KB* texture cache. Really. The Visual Interface chip also heavily filtered the image, especially if output via RF which adds its own blur again. Modded-in RGB output doesn't suffer from that. The N64's Jumper Pak was actually a Rambus Continuity Module / CRIMM, which was, yeah, essentially a terminator. Early Rambus designs required modules be installed in pairs, so that's why the system won't work without a Jumper Pak or Expansion Pak. Both the N64 and PS1 were capable of outputting up to 480i, but typically output 240p like most older consoles. Not only was 480i more demanding on their GPU, but it also came at a significant framebuffer size increase, which is why the high resolution modes seen for the N64 are usually used in games with Expansion Pak support. Menus, FMV's, and 2D games were generally safe to run at 480i for both consoles, and this was in many cases preferred where text readability (mainly in menus) was important.

[@Mixbag]

One does not simply make a video on the Nintendo 64 and NOT mention Goldeneye .............................lol

[@TheBrainScratcher]

23:13

[@izicial7469]

Apparently one does not simply watch the video before commenting...............................lol

[@MrJ0mmy]

Because Taylor Swift

[@bobhills4702]

Mix Bag Fuck GoldenEye.

[@kpag3030]

Mix Bag Ummm... he did mention golden eye. One of 2 games I ever played on the 64, btw. The other was Mario. Golden eye was a fantastic game. I was a little too old when the 64 came out. It seemed geared way more for 6-10 year olds. People of my age range who grew up with the original Nintendo went to playstation which I truly feel was the actual evolution of the Super Nintendo. We went to high school, and gaming went with us with the PlayStation. The 64 was for the younger gen who may have played the snes, but didn’t really grow up on those pioneering consoles. I had an Atari as well, but I was born in 79, so the Atari was already on its way out when I discovered Nintendo in the mid 80’s.

[@BillyandBoby]

10:24 these 'flaws' were actually software based and caused by lower-precision software (cpu-based) rendering in order to accommodate for not having a powerful cpu

[@NoorquackerInd]

I love the N64. It's so awesome that there's even emulators on your phone. And reality synthesizer and emotion engine? You just killed the N64 and PS2.

[@CaptainVideoBlaster]

1:24 Older PS1 models actually have more connectors then that. In addition to the parallel I/O port there was RCA video and audio outs and RFU DC out.

[@markn1090]

Ben, just buy both sizes of gamebit bits please, a few bucks off ebay

[@mathesar]

Some of my fondest memories were on N64: Banjo Kazooie 1 & 2, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Goldeneye, Zelda Ocarina of time, Wave Race 64, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario 64.

[@Handsomeartist]

As a kid the N64 was the obvious choice. But as a man, the ps1 is a far more enjoyable system. Nowday I almost never play my N64 but I still discover and replay a lot of ps1 game. Hell, I play more often with my ps1 than my ps4.

[@SuperBearPoo]

Yeah, PS1 has a crazy library of games. I love playing PS1 games on my PS3. :)

[@themetroid1202]

Handsome Artist I resept your opinion, but the N64 has M rated games too...

[@johnrose4572]

Even after I upgraded to the PS2, I still spent most of my money buying PS1 titles....my parents must have wondered why they shelled out the money for a new console.....LOL

[@Schoobs31]

I first had an N64, and later also had a PS1. I was more of an N64 player, but I played both a lot! Some of my favorite N64 games were Destruction Derby 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Paper Mario, Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey/Hockey 98, Road Rash... to name a few PS4... Spyro, Metal Gear Solid. Man that's pretty much all I can remember from the PS4... Lots of demos.

[@codexnecro3917]

I'd love to see a video on the net yaroze PS1, but that's probably too expensive to just take apart.

[@TheBrainScratcher]

take apart doesnt mean destroy.

[@JuanSanchez-rb4qu]

To think Sega was offered both the PSX (after nintendo left) and the ultra64 tech (before sgi went to nintendo) and rejected BOTH proposals Biiiiiiiiig mistake

[@KurisuDE]

Will there be a PS2 and Gamecube comparison?

[@sacc101]

Kurisu VK And Xbox

[@brandonselitetv1436]

overclockeador XBOX and GCN was The two Powerful systems in the Sixth generation.

[@sacc101]

I remember reading some dev's text about consoles of that era. Xbox had it's problems, like while it had double the ram compared to PS2 they needed to downscale some textures because it didn't support non-power-of-two res. in any way.

[@jc_dogen]

PS2 was better in some areas than the gamecube though. Burnout 3 was originally gonna be on it until the devs realized they couldn't get it to handle their physics engine fast enough. The PS2 had 2 was clocked a lot lower, but had way more general purpose floating point power with it's 2 dedicated vector units. In most cases the gamecube was overall faster though, and it was definitely a lot easier to develop for. Also the PS2 didn't have texture compression built into the GPU, but it had plenty of cpu power to do it manually, which lots of games did. It also had an image processor, which was partially intended for it as well, but no games ended up using it.

[@AxiomofDiscord]

Wrong the Gamecube could perform over 10 Billion floating point operations per second and the PS2 could do a little over 6 Billion. But this is where the Xbox really shined and blew everyone away at 120 Billion but overall the CPU of the Gamecube and Xbox where so close and a GPUs where not as general purpose back at that time particularly the way the Xbox used its so that really brought them closer to one another. PS2 does however beat the Gamecube in Memory Bandwidth so it has that.

[@dan_loup]

The N64 also have to load the code from the cartridge, because it only offers around 4MB/s of access rate, which is just hopelessly slow for any sort of code running. But its still fast enough to perform all sorts of almost realtime data streaming. This makes N64 be prone to a certain trick called "cartridge tilting", where you disconnect the cartridge just enough to cause glitching on the reads but not enough to turn the system off, which makes some funky stuffs like textures loading all wrong, or goldeneye having characters spazzing like mad.

[@yadabub]

"Banana shaped?" What planet are you from, Ben?

[@synaesthesia2010]

+yadabub that's what people refered to the n64 controllers as back in the day

[@yadabub]

Looks more like a cow's udder. I guess that most would rather be holding a bunch of bananas than a bunch of teats though. =D I kind of skipped that generation of consoles at the time.

[@MultiNacho8]

14:46 "However, most of it operates at 32 bits" Oh.

[@rdoetjes]

PS1 was the best. I am about Ben's age and Nintendo really had kiddy titles. PS had the young adult titles. I loved Driver and also FIFA 98 World Cup I played that soooo often. With the great music from: Tubthumping: "Pissing the night away... Pissing the night away.. "

[@CrystalBulger]

"PS1 was the best" "I had FIFA" (Assuming FIFA is good and original) (Assuming that "Kiddy Titles" are some how worse than Playstation's pale imitations) You just defeated your own argument.

[@YourTVUnplugged]

+Raymond Doetjes Fuck yea! I know what Ben is talking about too with the port in the back of the PS1! You would plug in your newly purchased gameshark and you could find and make your own cheat codes for any game you had :) It was awesome, I had no idea they removed it in later models, mine had it as I had the initial model sold! :D

[@zedek_]

+Ross the Boss Your statement is incoherent.

[@Imgema]

+Raymond Doetjes N64 was for kids? Oh shit! All this time Turok, Goldeneye, Shadowman, Conker, MK4, F-Zero X, DOOM 64, Rogue Squadron, World Driver Championship, etc, were kiddy games? Damn! Thanks for opening my eyes dude! Also, whatever. Even the "kiddy" games on the N64 were great. And the PS1 also had it's own share of kiddy games too, even trying to copy Mario and Mariokart. Also FIFA 98? Are you for real? By the way FIFA games existed on the N64 as well. Fucking dudebros man... Well, at least that trendy and cool PS1 helped you with your insecurity about your manhood i assume...

[@tr1bes]

+YourTV Unplugged Not only that, the 1st gen of ps1 can play import and burned disc using the swap technique.

[@_mnejing]

SCPH-9001, released just in time for Christmas 1997. Can tell it's the 900x series because there is no parallel port on the back. I'd bet this purchase was probably later in 1998, maybe even 1999, because the first batches of 900x came with the parallel port still installed, just lacking the actual cutout on the case. The one in this episode clearly doesn't even have it on the board, so it's the later 9001 model.

[@TheBrainScratcher]

24:53 lmao so full of shit, the ps1 was chocking with timeless classics. you know your stuff when it comes to hardware, but software is not your cake.

[@izicial7469]

While I agree with you I do have to say that the PS1 didn't have anywhere near as many iconic games as the N64. How many more people know about games like Zelda, Mario, and Pokemon compared to Crash, MGS, and FF.

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@izicial7469 Yeah, I had a PS2 but knew way more Nintendo games than PS stuff. Despite the PS being clearly more common, I always got the impression from the internet that no one had one, but loads of people had N64, and more people even had a Saturn than PS1. I didn't know good games on PS or PS2 were a thing until very recently.

[@breceeofficial]

I remember there being something about the PS1 supporting fixed-point, not floating-point precision (like the N64 did) that contributed to the warping of environments as the vertices snapped around.

[@Riz2336]

I think that the Playstation had some really good rpgs but it did however have a lot of junk games. I actually prefer the N64 over PS1.

[@julianhouston.bondservanto1191]

I don't, but I prefer the N64 over all other non-Sony systems

[@julianhouston.bondservanto1191]

Are you on the sony or on the Microsoft side?

[@heidirichter]

I have not read all the comments, so I apologise if this has already been addressed, but in this video it states that CPUs didn't have heatsinks until they were faster then 50MHz. This is not correct. the 25MHz 68040 NEEDED a heatsink, and still got pretty hot, ideally it also needed a fan, or at least some airflow. I believe the 68030 also needed one if it was operating at 30MHz or above.

[@adammcguire8936]

How could you discuss PSOne and not mention FFVII and Metal Gear Solid?

[@TheBrainScratcher]

bias.

[@robertojaketti7370]

Derfel Cadarn because of engaging and deep complex gameplay, lots of variety and advebture, huge beautifull, colorfull and inspired designed worlds, awesome characters, great storylines, often heartwarming or heartbreaking, great music. Whats not to like??? The ps1 FF games are one of the best rpgs of all time. If ur not a fan of the genre then ok, but i suspect bias here.

[@rationalraven8956]

I had PS1, and was always playing Crash Bash and Medal of Honor the most. Thanks to the 2-player campaign mode, it resulted in my friend and I practically living together for days on end to finish the game. I also played quite a bit of Crash Team Racing, Nascar 2000, Gran Turismo 2, Spyro the Dragon, Spider-Man, Worms Armageddon, Tony Hawk Pro Skater, and WWF Smackdown.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Playstation just had more games I wanted to play vs the mere handful the N64 offered me.

[@JoQeZzZ]

Another big N64 pro is that a company could do whatever they wanted to with a cartridge, granted they got permission from Nintendo. Animal Crossing for example included an RTC (which was VITAL for the game) and I think a few games even included a modem on their cartridge, but I might be wrong with that

[@kingcars]

No mention of Metal Gear Solid or Gran Turismo? Weak sauce :P

[@fab1604]

Oh man I love this Console Wars series!

[@sglider]

Geez, what a crappy PS game selection you guys used. So many great franchises were started on it: Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, Wipeout, Tekken, Twisted Metal, Ridge Racer....and you guys are like, "Here, you can get shitty licensed games on it and a bunch of RPGs."

[@sgtmajorJax]

+sglider Because it has to be biased towards Nintendo to be popular nowadays.

[@johnreitz7792]

+sglider the way they made it sound was that these were the only games they were able to find, and that there are much better titles out there.

[@maker_karen1785]

+sglider We didn't go out and buy any games so we relied on what we had lying around. I happen to have a large N64 collection. The PS1 games were all my roommate's and his collection is clearly lacking. I would have gone and picked up Twisted Metal III since that was the PS1 game I played the most.

[@Corristo89]

Something which basically didn't exist for the N64 due to the storage medium being so expensive and limited: Demos. It's interesting that hardly anyone ever talks about that. I vividly remember playing demos of PlayStation games again and again because they were so good. And they usually came bundled in with other PlayStation games or with PlayStation magazines. Pressing demo CDs for the PlayStation was dirt cheap and they could afford to pack them in with magazines or just hand them out for free. If demos for N64 games had been sold with N64 magazines, every magazine would've probably cost something like 20-30 dollars.

[@azop]

The console fanboy war never ends ;)

[@sparticus214]

+Arthur Samuel Rowan Its so Oviously the n64 wins because cool kids prefer cartridges because its 64 bit and its was not ex[pensive in the slightest for anyone who played early pc games In-fact only poor people play PlayStation 1

[@tekgeekster]

+To Z true. the majority is poor.

[@PapierVersnipperaar]

I have both, far more than the N64 did I play on my PS1 it had all those awesome titles and manly awesome games with great cutscenes, other than N64 which basically brought Nintendo to what it's now a kiddy console. =)

[@tekgeekster]

Man, you people must hate video games.

[@tekgeekster]

To Z A psych class you obviously didn't pay much attention to seeing as how you're bitching about things to this level. You all just need to shut up and apreciate things. Sheesh.

[@tcporcaria]

10:09 Ben said: "The development kit for the N64 had better support and were cheaper than the N64 equivallents". He meant to say the development kit of PlayStation where better and cheper than the N64 equivalent.

[@onyxe.s.4349]

n64 is the best it wasmore fun the ps1 was just a work horse to me.

[@diglet553]

wasn't the polygon warping due to the use of fixed point arithmetic vs floating point in the gpu? I've heard that everything is rendered on a fixed grid so it would do weird warping at certain camera angles

[@TheGrootmeesterjan]

Hey Ben. great show. I have been following the Nintendo ps repair. question: who is that girl in the beginning? and more importantly WHY is she in the show? is she your wife or girlfriend? I don't see her actually doing anything except talking to the camera. Does she also do tech repair stuff or ...? why is she in the show? serious question. Maybe somewhere else on this channel she actually contributes to any repair work ? This is not a sexist comment, but right now she just appears to be clickbait and easily replaceable by an adorable puppy or kitten.

[@DREAMATRON]

I believe saying "she just appears to be clickbait" sounds quite sexist in itself. What are you trying to accomplish?

[@TheGrootmeesterjan]

I am sorry if I appear sexist. I am seriously wondering who she is and what she contributes to the show. Is she just an extra host? why is she there? what does she do? does she also do tech teardown videos? if so I would like to see some. I love tech teardowns! In the nintendoPS series she doesn't seem to contribute. She talks. That's it. So why is she there? Just a question. maybe someone could answer it instead of instantly accusing me of sexism.

[@TheGrootmeesterjan]

+DREAMATRON If a random guy would appear in the intro bits of a woman's KZbin channel for let's say make up tutorials. But after the intro he would not be in the scenes at all. only to appear in the outro to say some words I would be equally interested in why that guy would be there. Is he a make up artist? is he her husband? Why would he be in the video? Same question would apply in reverse situation. So maybe I can get an answer like Oh her name is so and so and she has her own channel where she does so and so. go check it out. and I would. and possibly discover another cool YT channel. So WHO is she..?

[@DREAMATRON]

I really don't want to go into much depth trying to refute your trivial argument. I've seen her working hands on with Ben in montage shots during several videos. At the very least she is an extra pair of hands and an additional host. I don't know her qualifications, but I doubt they consist of being "replaceable by an adorable puppy or kitten."

[@DREAMATRON]

Also, there is no reverse situation. Doing tech projects has nothing to with with being a man. Doing makeup projects has nothing to do with being a woman. Gender stereotyping is in the definition of sexism. Just a heads up.

[@T00ntju]

Great vid! However a little thing bugs the engineer in me: @7.28 "Uppercase B means bytes, lowercase b means bits." Please also note that uppercase M means "mega" (1000000) and lowercase m means "mili" (1/1000).. furthermore kilo (1000) is abreviated as a lowercase k.. keep up the great work!

[@GaudyMarko]

n64 needs to have a con for god awful controller design.

[@V-Jes]

@Mammoth Supremacy 55 At same time the original PS1 controller pretty much was just an upgraded SNES controller with 4 shoulder buttons and a handle.

[@pauljosse]

I loved that controller

[@stevesteve0521]

@@V-Jes far from an upgrade. The d pad on the ps1 controller was awful as opposed to the fantastic and smooth d pad for the snes controller. Half of the snes buttons were also concaved which felt better to press with your fingers and also the dog bone shape of the controller was more comfortable to hold as well. Classic ps1 controller was sort of a dud to be honest, the dual shocks were definitely necessary to give it more of an appeal.

[@lassekilde7659]

What you referring to about the ps1 ports, is the 002 version, the 001 actualy had rca output in the midle also

[@neoknux009]

but...but the saturn.

[@spman2099]

+neoknux009 Amazing console in Japan. The amount of awesome games left in Japan is staggering.

[@MegaRayland]

The Saturn was the best 2D gaming machine of the bunch. It even had a memory expansion feature even before the N64 hardware came out. The issue with the Saturn was Sega not anticipating the move to 3D and tacking on the 3D processing units late in the game, resulting in a console that was the hardest to program of the three and that didn't have as many hardware graphical features as the other two. There were many forward thinking features for it, including a modem, but 3D was not its strength.

[@strangevision99]

Saturn was amazing but the PS1 beat it with game library and less complex design. I love it but I can't deny the PS1 was incredible too. N64 first party was pure gold too. My favourite generation for sure.

[@Ostnizdasht206]

Great console for imports for sure. It sucks that the games are getting expensive for both regions now.

[@pwnt39]

mega the nes had memory extensions in the game carts themselves

[@spamaccount6460]

I was somehow able to finagle a N64 for Christmas and a PS1 for my birthday around 8 months later. I didn't usually get big presents, so I have no idea how that happened. I just know that I was one happy little gamer kid who got to have both of these systems at the same time.

[@weaverltd3573]

Ps1 is much better.

[@almondmcclain8026]

awesome comparison, but you forgot honorable mentions for those who got voted off the 5th generation video game console scene :) (Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar, Panasonic 3DO, Goldstart 3D0- Time Magazines 93' "Product of the Year" ), coming to a thrift store near you!

[@gudenau]

"32 bit", yeah the 64 is 64 bit. -.-

[@BrentBlueAllen]

+gudenau My thoughts exactly.

[@bitset3741]

Sega Genesis had a 32bit CPU with 16bit interface to ram, and was called 16bit. The N64 gad a 64bit CPU with a 32bit interface to ram - MIPS 4300i and SHOULD be called 32bit Especially since practically all known software used only 32bit instructions. Ah, but you might say that the Reality Coprocessor was 64bit and you would be right... But then you would HAVE to say that the Atari Jaguar was 64bit since its GPU was 64bit. Or you could just say that "bitness" was always just a load of nonsense... and be totally right.

[@benjaminslayton4335]

The N64 had shared memory and RAMBUS used terminators. I think this was an early version of RD RAM. I think the graphics processor had motherboard chipset functions, as well. If I remember correctly, the graphics processor was a co-processor that handled audio as well.

[@Pontiacgxp303]

Alot of Sony insecure fanboys as with every vs PlayStation video EVER created on KZbin! 😂 Zelda OOT, GOLDEN EYE, PERFECT DARK, MARIO 64 MARIO KART, STAR FOX, TUROK, BETTER graphics, no loading 4 players, introduction of the control stick, expansion pak made for even better graphics even though it already killed ps1 graphics, wave race, extreme G... Shall I go on?? GET N OR GET OUT! ✌

[@MegaRayland]

You should have included a Sega Saturn just to see the mess that the particular board was with the last minute changes Sega made to it (it was a very messy architecture). Some things that were not mentioned in the video: PSX--- - At the time the PSX was revolutionary in a few aspects to compensate for the slow read speeds of CDs. One of these features was "CD Spooling" which meant the console would continue reading the disc, and loading data, as you were playing. This allowed games like Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver to stream levels seamlessly without loading screens (save for the initial boot up). - The PSX was also capable of hardware video decoding which allowed it, coupled with the extra CD storage space. to display video smoothly, at full TV resolution, and at a much higher quality than competing consoles at the time. - The PSX also had a "high resolution mode" which allowed the game to be rendered at a full SD resolution of 640x480 (closely matching the 720x480 standard TV definition at the time) compared to the more standard 320x240 (and less) resolution of most games. This was used in a few games most notably Tobal no1 and no2, games which also ran at 60fps and used the hardware Gouraud Shading to produce a very clean image. - Sony released to the general public the Net Yaroze which was a black "developer's" PSX. It came with all the development libraries and allowed anyone to create games for PSX on their computers and test it in the Yaroze plugged to it. You could then upload the code to a website for other Net Yaroze users to play. From time to time the best creations would also be featured in Sony's own Playstation Underground demo discs. N64--- - The big selling point for the console, pre launch, was what the partnership with Silicon Graphics, at the time top of the line in 3d graphics hardware, meant for the games. The console was heavily promoted for its hardware-based capabilities such as anti-aliasing, tri linear mip map interpolation, and Z-Buffering, among others. These features were highlighted as making the games look better. PSX vs N64--- - While the N64 could do things like Anti-Aliasing with hardware many developers didn't use the feature after launch because it was very costly to processor performance. Killer Instinct Gold, for instance, was one of the first games to drop the use of the feature due to the frame rate impact it caused. - A few developers used software texture filtering on the PSX that could produce a nice result similar to what the N64 could do with hardware. One good example is MDK. Most developers, however, just relied on higher resolution textures in order to maintain performance and create larger environments. - It was common for multi platform games to look better on the PSX than the N64 due to the higher texture resolution and less aggressive texture filtering. Games such as Forsaken looked sharper and cleaner on PSX compared to the muddy textures on the N64 version. Hydro Thunder, which came out also for the Sega Dreamcast, had the best performance on Sega's machine but even then the PSX version featured effects, such as water reflections which the console could do in the GPU, which were absent from the DC and N64 versions. - In terms of raw processing benchmarks the PSX could render 350,000 polygons per second (roughly the same as a Sega Model 2 board at the time), while the N64 could only process 150,000 polygons per second (roughly the same as a Sega Model 1 board at the time). The Sega Saturn sat in the middle capable of rendering 250,000 polygons/sec. This is why models in PSX games usually had more polygonal detail while N64 models were lower resolution compensated with shading. - The PSX did not have upgradable RAM, like the Sega Saturn and N64 had, but many games allowed for 4 player multiplayer with the use of a Multitap accessory, including games such as Crash Team Racing.

[@E5KAred]

ps1 have ability to play with 4 players - multitap

[@Kevinb1821]

I got mine in Christmas of 1998 and it still had that port. I used it for a gameshark

[@buckfiden6227]

Yeah. Even though Gameshark came out with a version for the newer PS, I’d have never wanted a PS w/o the GameShark port. BTW, SONY didn’t remove the port b/c of GS. They removed it to make the console cheaper.

[@Kevinb1821]

@@buckfiden6227 yeah. All game companies seem to remove ports and features at the end of its life cycle. I think the GameCube removed the component output. I still regret never getting that cable even though I had the chance many times lol

[@Turtle_1976]

N64 had much more fun titles. And... No long loading times!

[@terrariola]

+Brian Popilek The reason for short loading times was because it used cartridges which were the 80s/90s equivalent to modern day SSDs

[@synaesthesia2010]

+Brian Popilek wrong, i remember goldeneye and turok at the very least had long loading times

[@Brutananadlewski]

those long loading times were the same reason Nintendo lost out on a lot of 3rd party developers.

[@kmilli0313]

what part of goldeneye ever had any loading time?

[@synaesthesia2010]

the version i played had a loading screen for the levels with a progress bar

[@paluxyl.8682]

I remember the years both consoles in the store . The owners of the Nintendo 64 had many problems to find good games because at the stors was always just a handful of games and after a while you played all of them . The owners of the playstation had much more different games to buy . Some of the nintendo games was so easy that you could complete the whole game in just 30 minutes . BTW the Xena game in the video is really good for a movie game . ^^

[@idontknowyouguys]

There was actually a psone with a tradition RCA output. It didn't have the proprietary video output cable yet.

[@Madmax23419]

In the past all pc's has there controllers that controlled the drives, ram controller, pci, gpu, etc in separated chip, so called north bridge. The CPU was connect to front side bus with that chip, if the cpu wants to connect to the ram it goes through the front side bus to the separated chip, was very common those days.

[@liammay7756]

RDRAM (RAMBUS) even in PCs back when it was popular did have to have that extra "blank" terminator in the empty slots. It was a step above SDRAM before or around when DDR was just coming out.

[@SSteelification]

Both consoles are based on the MIPS archetecture, the ps1 being based on the r3000 and the n64 being based on a cut down r4000.

[@justwatch2760]

What I really liked about the PS1 was the FMV sequences that were way above the Sega CD in range, without the grain, and all the video saturation that was the biggest hinderance of the time. PS1 was also easier to program for, and the game manufacturers and creators had a lot of modes and filters at their expense to take advantage of, which Sega struggled with, as their hardware used for the Saturn was more difficult to program for, utilizing the chips way differently than most of the hardware of that time, but fared way better than the Jaguar which was pretty much doomed right out of the gate (mostly for the same reason)

[@TranscendingPolygons]

PS1 technically came out when the Snes still had classics being released, and almost 2 years before the N64. So it was partly a "transitional" system (16 bit to 64 bit console generation) and still strong enough to compete with the N64. Ben basically confirmed what I always guessed back then. PS1 had better audio, and raw polygon pushing on screen. N64 was faster in everyway, sharper visuals. Love both systems, good video.

[@FrothingFanboy]

Actually, the CPU was 64 bits, but the bus was only 32.