Ben's ACTUALLY moment - Tom and Ben

[@redhood1060]

He is literally one of my favourite characters and I hate that model so much. I literally just made my own out of plastic.

[@Rottenflieger.]

The Argel Tal model is also completely different from the book description, even the paintjob is nothing like he's described. I honestly don’t think the designers ever read a book featuring him.

[@benhramiak8781]

how's he described? I've not got to first heretic yet.

[@Rottenflieger.]

@@benhramiak8781 When in daemonic form (as the model depicts) his helmet face mask morphs into a silver wolf's head. In the books he is not depicted as having massive taloned arms the size of powerfists, though his hands are definitely mutated when in the daemon form. He also fights with a custodian's guardian spear and sword for pretty much his entire involvement in the Heresy. The model is painted up with him holding an Ultramarine, and there is only a small part of one battle in which he could've been fighting Ultramarines and not using his signature weapons. Whilst the unarmed weapon loadout that the model depicts is technically plausible, it feels a bit like making a Horus model without his mace or talon. They're so iconic for the character, that it's just a bit disappointing not to see them. The model itself, much like Zephon is fantastic, it's just... not Argel Tal for me. Hope you like First Heretic when you get to it. It and Betrayer definitely made me look at Word Bearers a bit differently as more than the "evil for the sake of evil" bad guys and gave them some nuance that I felt was missing from some of the books where they are the antagonists.

[@benhramiak8781]

@@Rottenflieger. the thing that got me interested in betrayer was that clip of angron meeting the high riders again. The narrator does a good job woth his voice

[@Rottenflieger.]

@@benhramiak8781 definitely. He does a good job of conveying Angron’s pain and sorrow in those scenes.

[@Teauma]

I like pedantic nerd Ben

[@koenvandamme6901]

We call him Ben for short

[@dermathze700]

Wait, Arkhan Land is not a meme?

[@redhood1060]

No he’s a real character and he’s very interesting. The Memes about him kind of like most things around 40 K means don’t really take into account the writing around him.

[@BenersantheBread]

@@redhood1060 The problem is that there was no reason to name him "Land" and make it so Land Raiders and Speeders were named after him. That's why he's memed on, not his character writing

[@redhood1060]

@@BenersantheBread They’re not actually named after him it’s an in universe joke. Read master of mankind. By the way English isn’t my first language so sorry for the poor pronunciation.

[@Robjec53]

@@redhood1060 the problem with that is it's the 31st book in the series. Getting to it is a big time commitment so most people who are interested in the fandom will only know the parts that spread.

[@BenersantheBread]

@@redhood1060 Is it? Lexicanum says Arkhan wrote "Worthy Notes and Treatises of Direct Relevance to Land’s Raider-Pattern Main Battle Tank: The Rebirth of an Ancient Miracle - an essay in rebuttal of the trend among the Legiones Astartes of referring to Land's Raider-Pattern Main Battle Tank simply as a Land Raider."

[@kieranmclaughlin264]

Yeah i gotta admit whoever was designing the model definately wasn't given enough details/Information about the character, But a little parts swapping and painting might fix things up

[@brupod]

he's wearing a metal croc

[@cameron6770]

Video is 4:20 long. That's the funny number!

[@premopreoni]

Wow I remember this guy, wasn't he, along with Loken, set up as some of the earliest proto-inquisition members?

[@shohanrus2076]

No actually 🤓... Loken was set up with other legionnaries, and there was a Blood Angel, but his name was Vardas Ison (i think he was ex-chief librarian of the BA at time?)

[@Washeek]

This is the guy that appears in Master of Mankind and SPOILER . , , . . . ., . . . Goes to fight in the webway portal on Terra against Chaos incursion.

[@Troutington]

I don't know if they tried to salvage this in echoes of eternity. It says that after the plot of "master of mankind" Arkhan land gave him new bionics and armour. How he switched legs is not explained though.

[@Cbyneorne]

Sounds more like something a Dok would do.

[@luketfer]

@@Cbyneorne "So ya replaced me Rite leg Dok?" "What do ya zoggin me ya Rite leg, ya left leg was da duff one!" "Zoggin 'ell, alright, cut off me uvva leg then, balance it out...dat was me favorite leg dat was...gonna miss 'em...ol grotkicker..."

[@sugma42069]

They've interpreted "his left leg" as his left from his perspective, which isn't necessarily wrong

[@fujoyoshi4368]

The horus heresy is well known for having an "unreliable narrator" which explains away ALL of the inconsistences

[@Sherwin657]

*Ackchyually

[@sierraandrews9921]

I had a kind of "One of your favourite characters" moment with Argel Tal's Mini. I still love it dont get me wrong and I do own the fucker. But like, man is famous for his 2 custodes weapons And then they didn't give him EITHER one xD Technically his model could be canon to a very specific moment in betrayer (SPOILERS AHEAD FOR BETRAYER) Where in like the last hour of his life both his weapons break and he has to fight with his claws but thats about it xD

[@chalkdeamon6070]

He gets clapped by Erebus. That book was lame.

[@bryantprak7129]

Wow GW not being able to follow their own lore, thats soooooo not surprising, as long as they get your money who cares if the 60 dollar model doesn't even match his lore

[@FindTheFun]

This is what you get if you spend your whole life being a nerd.

[@jonasquinn7977]

The way that Ben pens a new page for everything he does infuriates me

[@Nathan-pl2cf]

Why? RAM's cheap these days and it's faster to keep the pages cached in another tab than to reload every time you go somewhere

[@Yusuf-fs4fn]

Ben hitting a racial slur is wild

[@Botjer1]

scraping the barrel of warhammer content