Ben Shapiro Effortlessly Obliterated By Four-Year-Old

Just when you think there isn't anyone left for the Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro to debate... he faces his greatest opponent yet...
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[@samanthaamburgey4128]

I'll give Ben some credit: He's finally debating people on his intellectual and physical level.

[@JustSomeTommy]

Don't be mean to the kids. They are much smarter than him.

[@ximfo4883]

Ben Shapiro is on a lower level than an object

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

@Oswald Cobblepot Body shaming the kids by comparing them to Ben

[@Davethe3rd]

And also, finally opponents he can stand up and look in the eye...

[@SamsungJ-xk9pt]

The kids were right! Who's the President right now? 'Unfortunately Joe Biden. Trump. He's the best.'

[@samuelbahij4878]

Imagine saying "Taxation is theft" while you're in a public library.

[@pinsandneedles3]

The absolute irony of it all....

[@schnoz2372]

Lmao I didn’t even think about that. Wow

[@crash-ry3eq]

Honestly the "taxation is theft" isnt as bad as "the government takes your money and gives you nothing in return." Like you can technically think that you benefit from taxation but still consider it theft meanwhile the second one just ignores the existance of the library.

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

Ben wants everybody to be stupid and uneducated so they’ll keep giving him money and voting or his tax cuts

[@watkins7086]

@@crash-ry3eq yeah because taxation is actually extortion whether you get something in return or not. Also Ben Shapiro is an idiot and unprincipled, seeing as how he backed off immediately from that very easily defendable position (taxation being a kind of theft).

[@sonny061188]

“That’s kinda true” is a microcosm of Ben Shapiro’s political ideology.

[@ananousous]

"Let's just say it's hypothetically true"

[@JL-rj5vh]

@@ananousous sounds like idealism, comrade.

[@a_random_voice_in_the_void]

When you’re so concerned about people indoctrinating kids that you attempt to indoctrinate kids.

[@kstar1489]

That’s how they get away with it

[@Pluveus]

Well yeah, all the things conservatives say lefties do are things that they do because they think that if they do it while saying they don't, then obviously lefties do it too because it's impossible that lefties have more principles than they do because JESUS.

[@josh2482]

@@Pluveus Conservatism may have microwaved your brain judging from that incoherent nonsense you just wrote.

[@Pluveus]

@@josh2482 Okay, I admit that it was a little run-on, but here's the simplified version since you weren't able to parse it. The overwhelming majority of Conservative thought is projection because they're lying about what they believe and they're using religion as a shield to defend themselves from critique and consequences. It all comes down to the fact that conservatives who are involved in politics view politics as a game to acquire power rather than a system to make people's lives better. They say things, not because they believe them, but because it's moving a piece on the board and they can't fathom that, to lefties, it's not a fucking game it's real life.

[@drophat]

@@Pluveus ok so i gess neither side understands the other

[@HaoWooiLim]

Ben Shapiro picking on people his size and still being schooled.

[@SamsungJ-xk9pt]

The kids were right! Who's the President right now? 'Unfortunately Joe Biden. Trump. He's the best.'

[@jeremiahbarnes6313]

@Samsung J3 So the guy who caused Jan 6th is the best? You should really rethink your positions if you genuinely believe that because you're supporting terrorism. If you attempt to engage in whataboutism, my answer will always be "Harm reduction is better than ideological support".

[@shis1988]

@@SamsungJ-xk9pt seethe

[@seliamila1005]

@@SamsungJ-xk9pt cope

[@reefslider1]

@@SamsungJ-xk9pt mald

[@Ryan_Wiseman]

Ben went from debating college kids to debating toddlers. But even the toddlers are figuring out the bullshit

[@queerpossumtrash5852]

@Cornelia it's like that thing where people put microphones playing Motzart, but instead of making them smarter it just makes them repeat the same conservative talking points over and over.

[@zedudedaniel]

Even toddlers who are taught to love Trump

[@smoothiemcguffin2721]

@Cornelia he fails even then, and ends up doing an interview with a guys balls

[@ejiacavarice2367]

@Cornelia Next thing you know you're doing the do and suddenly Ben Shapiro comes out of nowhere and teaches your jizz about politics.

[@vojacked305]

You can't fight against an ideal just because you believe it doesn't always tend to happen.

[@somethingginterestingg4275]

"We pay the government and get little in return" Yet, everytime we fight for something tangible like healthcare, or public college, etc they fight it. Its almost like they don't want the government to give us anything in return

[@Dramanas]

Based comment!

[@thesnorg1442]

@@h..8083 "I just shidded and farded and camed." Xanadu IIX The aliens from Sdp'rre rule the world, no the elite billionaire banking families. (fr though, don't give them too much credit. the world is much more complex than bieng run by individual groups)

[@OblivionFalls]

@@h..8083 I rule the world. Give me money.

[@zacharymarentette5269]

Hmmm, maybe it's because they know that in order for the government to give that, they'd have to take a *lot*.

[@ryanwalsh5019]

Hell, they even drag their feet over basic infrastructure

[@Katharoni]

God you can really tell that boy is smart, he makes jokes, engages with the subject, is fairly outspoken, I hope he grows up to do good things.

[@HairyNippy]

future leftist energy

[@danieltobin4498]

Yea, kids a big fish in a pond of plankton

[@marcushalberstram9609]

These comments are cringe

[@jacobnoelle8428]

@@marcushalberstram9609 your cringe

[@jacobnoelle8428]

@@HairyNippy hopely. There a possible that their parents might punish them and drain them of their energy.

[@mansamusa8410]

I love how they're acting all like kids in the beginning but when he says that taxation is theft the kid breaks character and says that's not true.

[@ananousous]

Type of kid to sell his parents out to the IRS

[@Beowulf_DW]

Based.

[@dinodare1605]

@@ananousous To be fair, if you can't prove that your parents make money with tax receipts, you can get more student aid from the FAFSA. OR you can be selected for verification and have to prove your need to your college. Either way it affects the kid.

[@thefatherinthecave943]

Yoooo Mansa Musa? Famous African Emperor who went on a pilgrimage Mecca, who’s generosity caused a rapid inflating of the gold market everywhere he went? Who was so based he bought back all the gold he gave away? Pog

[@thepepper191]

FBI plant

[@fatboysunited7255]

hearing the "unfortunately Joe Biden" and "Trump is the best" from a 6 year old was a real knee slapper

[@VilliageSquidiot]

I feel that. Did you ever parrot some views you heard when you were that age? I did.

[@fatboysunited7255]

@@VilliageSquidiotI'm sad to say I did.

[@VilliageSquidiot]

@@fatboysunited7255 I wonder if that's just apart of growing up and developing as a person.

[@queerpossumtrash5852]

@@VilliageSquidiot yeah it really is. I mean, like did you really understand how taxes, media fact checking, global economies, social issues or even statistics at all worked at that age? I sure as hell didn't.

[@thefatherinthecave943]

@@VilliageSquidiot oh god, I did as well. My stepdad gave me the “the civil war was actually about states rights!!!!!!” And I repeated it…… to my fucking history teacher. I was 17 at the time.

[@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE]

Conservatives: Don't indoctrinate the kids! That's our job!

[@prettyokandy230]

they teach kids that they will go to heck for since they are old enough to read, it's almost ironic..

[@JeoshuaCollins]

That is legitimately why they rail about "Liberal indoctrination" so hard. Along with religion, unless you get them young, people just aren't likely to ever believe these ideologies. You generally can't convince adults there's a magic man in the sky controlling them, nor that doing good things for other people is actually hurting them. You gotta get 'em young.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@JeoshuaCollins Nazis and conservatives say the same thing about tolerating the intolerance. There is no such thing as tolerating the intolerance. Banning the Nazis is not hurting democracy, they are the antithesis to democracy. They only appears meek and polite in the democratic debate to play the victim card. The moment they get back to their forum they will be rambling about how much they hate democracy because it allows "degenerates" to live in their utopia and they will get rid of it the moment they got into power. And conservatives are always rehearsing the "all opinions are equal in a democracy" play and that's bs, some opinions are straight up trash and they are losing ground exactly for that reason not because liberal are cancelling them. We are just hastening the process by not even bother putting them on the debate in the first place.

[@theso6ever]

Literally. They're so hypocritical

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@theso6ever They are hypocritical because they can't stand a debate on equal ground. They keep talking about liberal arts professors are biased against them but the fact is, even academic of the STEM field are against them and not just in the US, it's the academics of whole world with the exception of JB Peterson but he just got fired from his university. Conservatives are sore losers to the point that many of them just ditch science all together because deep down they understand that to embrace the scientific method is to put their views under the same weighing scale against the liberal view where they will inevitably lose.

[@NateTalksToYou]

I thought conservatives were bad at comedy.

[@kittypig3619]

Loool it's nate. How are you man? Ever consider entering the debate sphere?

[@DavidRichardson153]

They are. It is like watching America's Funniest Videos (RIP Bob Saget - F^^^ you, Candace), in that we are laughing at them - and getting us to laugh at them is their one true skill, one that never fails to sail over their heads.

[@prisma6799]

Intentional comedy.

[@lilsaam]

Oh no they're great, at unintentional comedy.

[@dallasmoorenumberone]

They have always been good at unintentionally being the butt of their own jokes.

[@emilchan5379]

I like how the first thing that comes to Ben Shapiro's mind for what he thinks the government should spend more tax money on is the police. Not better roads, or infrastructure, or education or anything like that. But the police. Really shows what conservatives like him truly care about.

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

Police enforce the power structure and defend their "private property".

[@turokokokoko9714]

@@Delicious_Oreoz I honestly can’t comprehend this comment

[@turokokokoko9714]

@@Delicious_Oreoz like you think the police is just free bodyguards for the wealthy? Or is it not usefull to be able to call for trained help when someone is breaking into your house like ion get wtf u mean lmao

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

@@turokokokoko9714 the wealthy use the police much more then your average joe. Just like they use all the other government programs like fire departments and roads. Why do you think they were okay with the traditional infastructure bill? Because they use that infastructure whether its Amazon trucks on the roads or boeing planes landing at airports they like that juicy government.

[@akasakikawasaki1890]

@Charisma Musician maybe they should address the cause of the fire instead of throwing more water on it?

[@rachelpuckles560]

He seems like a good dad. He needs to be a stay at home parent and let his doctor wife bring in the money.

[@wholesofparodox]

Did he have a job before making videos on youtube?

[@daniel67797]

@@wholesofparodox failed writer and Hollywood wannabe

[@jacobd1984]

His wife’s a doctor? This is the first I’m hearing of that!

[@TheJzako]

WHAT!! Ben Sharia-piro's wife is a doctor?!

[@Necroskull388]

Unironically, Ben has a good personality when he's not being a political ghoul.

[@jeffarnold3800]

Ben was just begging to get shoved into a locker by one of these kids

[@5driedgrams]

Lol

[@Euphoryaaa]

Definitely the kid in red

[@DeliciousBooger]

Leftist indoctrination bad, conservative indoctrination good - Ben shabibo, probably

[@samSamSam11918]

Did you know his wife's a doctor?

[@luismurillo5855]

I love the irony of Shaprio of whining about taxes while filming this cringefest in a public library...

[@yetanotherkeyblader3572]

@@h..8083 It's more like yelling at the underpaid cashier at a fast food restaurant about how they're every single slur in the dictionary... while they order food from the same cashier... like a Karen, in a way...

[@EliaFlowers]

@@h..8083 but he doesn’t criticize the services public libraries offer, he argues for doing away with them completely Using your restaurant analogy, it would be like enjoying the restaurant’s food while calling the cops on it so they can close it indefinitely

[@luismurillo5855]

@@h..8083 "Socialism lacks the competition that a free market provides and is therefore less efficient" Then why are all the first world countries with universal healthcare ranked ahead of the US by the World Health Organization despite the fact that we pay the most for healthcare in the world? "- Governments don’t spend all the taxable income on us, far from it, they take a substantial amount for themselves and mostly just give back enough to justify its continued existence" This is actually a better description for the privatized healthcare system, insurance CEO pocket a bunch of the money despite not really doing anything. Switching to universal healthcare would actually save $2 trillion over the next ten years. "The monopolization of entire sectors of the economy by the state in socialism is tyrannical" As opposed to monopolization under capitalism? Can you tell me how many real competitors Amazon has? "- The state creates problems to justify its own existence then blames freedom for the problems it is responsible for to push for more government control" Can you give any actual examples of this? "- I don’t believe it’s necessary - we can take care of our own interests, we don’t need rulers." Then by that reasoning you should be against cops, firemen, military, etc... "- People need to work. Humans have needs and these needs can only be fulfilled if somebody is willing to work to provide for them." I dunno what you're talking about. Socialism doesn't mean "people don't do work". "Oftentimes people on the left argue that basic needs should be met for free but of course this isn’t possible." How so? Notice how you're not giving actual examples. "The people who work so that we can have our basic needs met deserve to be paid." They do. Can you give any actual examples where this isn't happening? "I argue that the most appropriate people to pay for the things we consume is ourselves." Then by that reasoning you should be for privatising roads, cops, firemen, etc. Do I really need to explain to you why this is silly?

[@luismurillo5855]

@@h..8083 Then why do most people get more in social security and medicare than what they pay in? Why do countries with universal healthcare pay less but still get better outcomes than the US? Do you see why this analogy fails on so many levels?

[@wickedAberration]

@@h..8083 Almost every point you make has some misunderstanding there, and a weird conflation of "Socialism" with "The State". I could see these things justifying anarchism, but you seem to be advocating capitalism. It also seems kind of absurd to argue that people wouldn't work without the violent threat of homelessness or starvation. We absolutely, 100% can cover everyone's basic needs, even under a capitalistic market economy. The question does arise if we could still do that without exploiting people outside of the country is one I haven't read up on.

[@angryretailbanker5103]

7:31 I know Vaush made the Chad stone-wall face joke regarding the kid's "No it's not" response to Ben, but seriously, this kid's face just screams "Debate me, bro". This kid is ready to lay into Ben right there and then. I bet this kid came armed with data regarding social programs and the alleviation of poverty as well as correlations between poverty and criminality. The kid SMELLS Ben's fear! He's ready to end Ben's entire career right there and then!

[@ananousous]

Ben ran faster from that debate than Crowder from Sam Seder

[@jdprettynails]

Ben: The government takes all your money and gives you nothing in return Kid in Red: What a fucking liar, dude!

[@Junebug89]

Kid has big Sam Seder energy for sure lmao

[@luismurillo5855]

Ben: "Taxes are theft!" Little kid: "Oh so you're against the $4 billion we give to Israel every year right?" Ben: "Uhm..."

[@thoomolong]

And the military. And tax breaks to corporations.

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

While Ben's views are generally unclear, the Libertarian Party generally opposes foreign aid, be that to Jordan, Egypt, or Israel.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

No way would he agree with leaving the Israelis to fend for themselves. It isn't unclear from where i stand

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

They claim to be for small government but they supported a bloated military and police budget. This is why I believe right wing politics is inherently authoritarian. They simply want to destroy the social safety net and crush the weak. Even the “libertarians” are authoritarian social Darwinists.

[@comebackqing8452]

Even the lefty comment sections are turning against Israel lol

[@thomasdendtler4077]

I cruel irony of Shapiro saying "the government takes your money and gives you nothing back" while sitting in a PUBLIC LIBRARY fucking hurts

[@clairebun]

Where do you think the money for that library came from, Ben? ... Fucking AQUAMAN

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

@@clairebun wait is this a meme? I mean I knew that was a widely known joke from HBG but I’ve never seen it used like a meme and I really hope you’re not the only one cuz that’s hilarious

[@zach2790]

I can't wait for Ben to start debating single cell organisms

[@Zacharysharkhazard]

Ben: the government is evil and does nothing for you Single cell organisms: Ben: we’ll I’m KINDA right!

[@pepsimann2038]

@@Zacharysharkhazard 💀💀💀

[@sideshowRaheem]

“Government is what takes all of your money and gives you very little in return” - Ben Shapiro(currently sitting in a public library)

[@SamsungJ-xk9pt]

The kids were right! Who's the President right now? 'Unfortunately Joe Biden. Trump. He's the best.'

[@robertthedevil7598]

@@SamsungJ-xk9pt facts don't care about your feelings.

[@germanvisitor2]

Mr. Benjamin Shapiro probably thinks money grows on trees.

[@Creslin321]

Wait wasn’t this talk given in a PUBLIC library? Meaning, taxpayer funded “government” library. The irony.

[@justjess6636]

I don't understand why any library would allow this

[@stevonwhite8933]

@aa b Every time someone asks you to *explain* your comments, you literally malfunction and self-destruct…

[@saa-wnbaw]

@aa b did you come from? Where did you go? Where did you come from, cotton-eyed Joe

[@Alex-cw3rz]

20:37 this sounded more like shade than a complement "but all he does is talk about it" the kids calling Ben a virtue signaler.

[@fabiobalassia]

Kid is cooking a disstrack as we speak

[@Victor-hb9mj]

Imagine going to a public library to say that taxes are useless

[@joperhop]

So he can not handle primary school kids now? so no more college? He will have to "debate" babies now.

[@arwentheelf02]

“Ben Shapiro OWNS SJW Infants (SHIT THEIR PANTS, NOT CLICKBAIT!!)”

[@crimsonlockewood1238]

@@arwentheelf02 "Pro-choice, communist baby DEMOLISHED with FACTS and LOGIC (Realizes it could have been aborted - no clickbait!)

[@nikdoesstuff9338]

"Now let's say, hypothetically when you say goo goo ga ga, like you just did, the woke police can literally arrest you"

[@crimsonlockewood1238]

@@nikdoesstuff9338 "Understandably this can be quite alarming to those who believe in free speech, but the radical left has banned anything perceived as hate speech - meaning things they don't like." - extremist conservative baby " Saying goo goo gaga is an insult as it demonstrates a severe lack of intelligence, and flaunts the privilege of being carefree without worrying about being silenced, unlike the many minorities silenced daily. It also shows the privilege of having the means to talk, a spoil the non-mute enjoy, taking satisfaction that deaf people cannot hear the vitrol directed at them" - overanalyzing baby

[@liviwaslost]

He will have to debate single celled organisms.

[@NinaChristensen]

As a parent of a 11 year old and a 6 year old these kids were prompted / trained to say most of these things. No little kid would think to ask “Do you think the government will ever be stable”? (paraphrasing).

[@jdprettynails]

Or that one kid that supposedly knows about Roe v Wade

[@MsOdd86]

@@jdprettynails that, specifically, is fucking ridiculous. I can see a lot of these kids just parroting their parents for a lot of this but claiming to know roe v wade is just not something a 6 year old would never ever do ever lmfao

[@kenzij]

I mean, you can't really fault them on that point. Most parents coach their kids before they appear on something like this. For instance the "And Now a Word From Us Kids." Segment on PBS's Arthur.

[@umopepisdn.]

Absolutely, they have been trained since they were old enough to comprehend language. Do you think anyone who believes their kids should have their own thoughts would willingly sit them in a room with Ben Shapiro?

[@chamberv5261]

And the "Chinese virus"...

[@jahcode6132]

I was homeschooled and raised conservative. I don’t talk to my parents about it but it ducked me up really bad and I didn’t develop socially until college.

[@Abraham-gf1oi]

Fellow homeschooled kid by conservative parents. It's crazy how their picture of the world is so different than the one we live in. It gets better, trust me!

[@chazzilla8919]

Hey, me too. Hoping things will get better.

[@turokokokoko9714]

Sounds like it was more about you being sheltered then it was about being conservative. Plus religion is a big thing that if handled bad can stunt social development and conservatives are majority christian or religious which is alot of the stupid shit i see on the right is just religion but not all christian values and teachings which can be done a milion different ways are inherent conservative in anyway

[@turokokokoko9714]

All im saying is conservatives are normally just as likley to be chill or weird as any person your just a homeschooled kid they always a lil weird till they acclimated. Lol I remember homeschool tranfers when i was in school and they were normally super anxious for a while but eventually chilled out. Also trust me socializing is not the same outside of college or a school environment its just not.

[@jamesfitzgerald8267]

My family was always into the whole "men have to be manly men or they're not men" schtick, and I was always interested in things that aren't "manly" like video games or reading, but I had to act like I loved football or working on cars or hunting or whatever, I hated it, but I felt like I had to act like someone I'm not or I was invalid, luckily nowadays I couldn't give less of a damn of what people think about me, including my family.

[@sweetgreenlettuce]

I don't think the kids are 4. Based on their language skills, they're in at least first grade which would put them at 6 or 7 minimum

[@Olivetree80]

Yeah, they definitely aren't, 4 year olds are munchkins.

[@reasonablewalk4982]

I think it’s a range-some of the older looking kids could be maybe 10

[@greatdanelegend7001]

I think Vaush is just bad at guessing kids' ages. They seem to be between the ages of 6 and 10 to me

[@CrimsonOptics]

One of these kids, 15-20 years later, meeting with 53-63 year old Ben: "Mr. Shapiro, I did everything you said when you came to my school. I was responsible, I worked very very hard, and I did everything I could within my power to better myself, and despite all of that I still can't get paid a living wage, I still can't get good health care, and the world and my family has been displaced from the climate disasters that have been popping up all over the world because people like you and the oil barons who fund you have prevented any meaningful action towards climate change, effectively gimping any sort of preparation or proper response we could have to this upcoming apocalypse. What do I do Ben?" "Uhhhhh sounds like you need to work harder and move somewhere else 🙄"

[@InTrancedState]

Should have sold his coastal home to aquaman

[@TR13400]

Strap up them boots and pull yourself up by said straps.

[@PixPMusic]

“Deciding to be homeschooled” usually is related to people who get bullied but yeah socialization is super fucking important and I really discourage home schooling except in extreme neurodivergent or disability situations

[@Roxor128]

If socialisation were important, there'd be classes and textbooks dedicated to it in every school. Did you have a socialisation class in school? No, of course not. You're expected to reverse-engineer it all on your own. Which just goes to show that for all people whine about it, they don't _actually_ consider it important.

[@PixPMusic]

@@Roxor128 forgot what video I was commenting on and read “socialism” No, socialization is literally *how you interact with people* You learn it by doing it and experiencing the reactions others have and how you react to things. people with ASD have issues connecting the self feeling to the others feeling, but they still learn, even if they struggle Yeah, learning introspection comes with time, but social behavior is socially learned, not taught by wrote.

[@Roxor128]

@@PixPMusic >No, socialization is literally how you interact with people Yes, I know. Which is why I said what I did. I didn't mix it up with "socialism", like you thought. >You learn it by doing it and experiencing the reactions others have and how you react to things. Which is how you learn things like art and cooking, but we still have classes and textbooks for those subjects. You can't learn those by rote either.

[@2FadeMusic]

@@Roxor128 So emotional intelligence or financial responsibility or any number of other things aren’t important because there aren’t classes on it in school? What kind of argument is that?

[@Roxor128]

@@2FadeMusic They might _actually_ be important, but the fact there are no classes in school for them shows that they're not _treated_ that way.

[@Sam-cy2mv]

I was homeschooled by my insane Fundie parents. Didn't learn a thing and didn't have any friends as a kid. Legitimately one of the worst things you can do to someone.

[@alejandrorivas4585]

Glad you're in a better place 🫂

[@katherineethridge9617]

I went through a similar experience.

[@kie9683]

Same. They are also in a cult, and believe in Q

[@carvedwood1953]

My parents would have 100% let me go to see Shapiro bc they would have known I would have outsmarted him constantly and called him a liar lol.

[@nolovedrjones9668]

And then everyone would clap

[@nordinreecendo512]

I just want these kids to surround Ben Shapiro as he's huddled over with his hands on his head in a panic, chanting *"Who will we sell the houses to, Ben?"*

[@squreshi10]

Fucking Aquaman?!

[@ANAKlN_]

Conservatives: yoU cAn’T tEaCh aBoUt tHe lGbTq ComMunIty tO kIdS tHey’Re tOo yOuNg iT’s InnApRoPRiAte aNd sCarY Also conservatives:

[@marzero116]

The harder you work the better your life is going to be: someone working three minimum pay jobs works harder than Ben Shapiro will ever work in his life. That's why they include the better decisions you make because they can attribute anybody who works hard and doesn't make it as having made bad decisions

[@remember2variate968]

Good words and I agree with you

[@lalitthapa101]

Well,atleast he found his level...

[@Junksaint]

And still gets destroyed

[@ximfo4883]

no its still unfair for Ben Shapiro

[@Feefa99]

The bar is really low for him

[@shinkiro403]

@@h..8083 no, there's a huge difference between party primaries and actual Potus elections, you can't rig the latter as easily as the former. So no, Trump didn't win...

[@macncheesegaming2453]

With regards to height?

[@mountainhun]

I was homeschooled and kept super isolated, sailing down the Caribbean. My dad handwaved the need for socialization; he just said "Just tell people you grew up on a boat, they'll want to be your friends immediately!" But when I finally.went to college, and while I found it to be easy cause I was educated well (mostly self directed; dad was just on charge of making sure we did a certain number of hours a day), but talking to other people was impossible. I couldn't even talk to the teacher until like two semesters in. And it was even worse for my older sister; she had the same social handicaps, but she didn't get the same value out of our education as I did, so studying was really hard for her. So homeschooling isn't just something you can decide to do just because you feel offended or distrust formal education. Need to consider so many other factors.

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

That's terrible! The homeschoolers I know met up with other homeschooled kids at least once a week. Growing up in almost total isolation must suck.

[@Icrecreqmart34]

I feel so hard on this my parents also do the same thing and are abusive as we'll seeing your comment makes feel so much better cause I was feeling extremely lonely but seeing I am not the only one makes feel better. my parents said I would be allowed to make friends when im older but now I go outside even less and not allowed to talk to kids my age at all because they have to be"on my level" or sm idk I just want friends

[@tweak8866]

The homeschool tangent cracked me up. I was homeschooled up till college and was thrilled when my SIL decided to HS her kids. My mothers reason revolved around my older brothers being horribly bullied, then getting in trouble if they stood up for themselves, so the four of us were pulled out. We are all highly educated, with multiple degrees (a doctor, programmer, teacher, & auditor), and when we entered college the transition was smooth. We were not unsocialized, we did tons of volunteer and mutual aid work, scouts, martial arts, sports, and trade introduction as kids. I personally learned blacksmithing, carpentry, and electrical in my HS years, then went on to start college at 16. At the beginning of each grade bracket (middle school and high school) she would ask if we preferred to go to school and none of us ever took the option. That being said, lazy/religious homeschool can be F’ing awful. My mom became a stay at home mom to educate us and put the effort in for a full time job. We were poor as shit but she found resources and put the work in.

[@vannalaws1692]

I was the same when that tangent came up. My brother was beat up in our public school and the only response from the administration was victim blaming, so my mother home schooled us until high school. I'm currently the only one in my entire family to achieve two college degrees. It sucks when parents use home schooling to cut their kids off from society and other ideas, but it can be an important resource for bullied kids who do not have an option to move.

[@Waspinmymind]

Yeah, it sucks man. I’m glad to hear that you had a better homeschool life. It makes me feel capable if I ever find myself in a similar situation.

[@SomethingImpromptu]

“It’s *kind of* true.” Ben at his most honest, where he explicitly cues you in to the fact that he’s lying. Most incompetent propagandist.

[@bren7431]

“Conservakids” dude, how bout letting kids be apolitical and choose for themselves when they’re not so easily influenced by grifters such as yourself

[@zephyr8072]

Ben Shapiro: “Haha. Kids are greedy and stupid, they’ll totally fall for my taxation is theft rhetoric. Kid: “Yeah you’re full of crap.” Ben Shapiro: “Curses! Foiled again! … I wonder if there’s a nursery ward. That’ll let me debate the babies..”

[@Arkain89]

Ben: "So basically, if the female says that, it's definitely an infection of sorts, as confirmed by a doctor (my wife)" Kid to producer: "way off base"

[@seb-fluffysnowcap9530]

Here's the Boots theory quote by Terry, author of children's books just casually demonstrating that it's possible to talk to kids about social economics in a way they will understand. "The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness."

[@dellybird5394]

Yes, I love Terry Pratchett. Though I wouldn't exactly call Hogfather a children's book (lots of prose that would go over a young kids' head), he did a very good job of exploring economic inequality in simple enough language, all in a book satirizing Christmas.

[@Necroskull388]

Was Pratchett a childrens' author? I only discovered him later in life.

[@DeusAsmoth]

@@Necroskull388 He has a few children's books. The Tiffany Aching series is aimed at younger readers and there are a few standalones like the Amazing Maurice.

[@MxchiefMaykr]

The "Vimes Boots Index" is an actual official thing now, based on that! It's being used to track the rise in the cost of living vs wage stagnation, and has been being tracked for the last 10-ish years

[@KHJohan]

Another example could be rent, poor people can’t afford to own while richer people pay off their house.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

That one kid is my personal hero. When I grow up I want to be just like him.

[@Magicwillnz]

If Ben Shapiro folded this fast, can you imagine what it would be like if he debated an adult.

[@sergeantdornan4386]

He did, he appeared on the BBC and stormed off because the host wasn't having any of his shit.

[@randomkid7390]

He debates adults for a living.

[@Magicwillnz]

@@randomkid7390 Runs away for a living, more like.

[@robertodelatorre4281]

So many people have told Ben that he is smart, and he is starting to believe it. 😔

[@Roxor128]

Who the hell would tell Ben _that?_ Bots he commissioned?

[@felipevasconcelos6736]

@@Roxor128 maybe he’s used to 3-year-olds.

[@robertodelatorre4281]

Fox news hosts have told Ben that.

[@jasminewaldo7045]

My husband has a great hot take about homeschooling. He and his siblings were homeschooled due to his mom being told by their church how “indoctrinating and satanic” public school was. By the time their mom threw in the towel and sent them to public school it was just too late. My husband is the only one of four that graduated, one of the older brothers didn’t even start schooling until he was 9 and all of them feel their chances of being able to go to college are crushed. So he thinks homeschooling need to either be done through online programs or if the parents do it they need to pass standardized testing for every year grade they teach to show they themselves know the material and may be capable of teaching it. Idk how I feel about that take, it feels a little overreaching but at the same time I can see the obvious consequences of severely unqualified people trying to teach their kids.

[@MayaTheOwl]

Ironically for all the big talk ben shapiro makes about homeschooling in Florida, Ive been homeschooled in florida for the last 6 years and your husbands take is pretty much the exact requirements my county had. We had the option for state testing or a yearly evaluation where you had to show a binder of what work youve done that year to make sure you were learning the curriculum enough to of passed the state test. Or if you did it through an approved online program, you had to bring in your transcripts to prove you learned the curriculum too. As much as unregulated conservative homeschooling is harmful, regulated homeschooling is the only thing that allowed me to graduate highschool with severe social anxiety disorder.

[@jasminewaldo7045]

@@MayaTheOwl yeah I definitely get that too, there’s a lot of instances where homeschooling is a necessity. Unfortunately homeschooling is unregulated in my state, but I’m sure if that were to change things would be a lot better for people like my husband and his siblings. I’m so sorry about your experience with social anxiety-I can relate to that all too well, all the way up to my freshman year I went to a small school with 15 kids in my class, when I had to move in with my mom I had to transfer to a large school and I suddenly had so much social anxiety that I would just up and leave the school most days if I showed up at all. I ended up going to an alternative high school that could be done completely online but they had a building with computers and teachers that we could go to if we needed help with questions or if owe needed computer access. I’m super grateful for that school because I for sure would have given up without them.

[@youcancallmeneck5178]

As a preschool teacher watching this on the train home, I just wanna say you hit the nail on the head with a lot of skills develops through social interactions

[@DeRoxx4114]

Coming here from the future to say, "yes little girl, the US Supreme Court did overturn Roe V. Wade and now you will have fewer rights when you are older than your mother."

[@angelantayhua3096]

I can’t get the image out of my head of Vaush crisscrossed on the floor with the kids listening to Ben Shapiro’s conservative ramblings while also making Ben stutter by asking simple questions.

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

And more than that, the freedom “to make good choices” empowers the people defining that definition to justify outcomes based on wealth/income/social status as due to bad choices and not social inequality or unjust laws.

[@TheCommonS3Nse]

Exactly. I’m rich and successful, therefore I made good decisions. It had nothing to do with growing up affluent and attending a prep school. The person that grew up in poverty, worked worked their butt off and got a factory job which ultimately got moved to Mexico, they didn’t work hard and make good decisions. That’s why they’re struggling.

[@queerpossumtrash5852]

steal a loaf of bread to feed you and your starving family, are you a good person? I often find it reveals a lot about people depending on how they answer

[@syco579]

This is the guy that conservatives consider to be their smartest intellectual

[@owlcowl]

Not really, most rank-and-file self-described American conservatives today think Jordan Peterson is their smartest intellectual. Now thats a _huge_ difference in native brainpower, isnt it?

[@trylius]

He isnt even smwrt at all…

[@DavidRichardson153]

I think it's safe to say that Ben will never compete on "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?" He'd lose to the 1st grader.

[@gaybatgosqueak]

Bruh, I would pay so much to see that!

[@gordonramslay9955]

I think it’d be even more interesting to see Ben Shapiro argue with left leaning preteens.

[@JM-mh1pp]

You should not eat people. Am I the only one who heard great saddness in the voice of this kid? Like...oh shucks, we should not eat people.

[@rainbowwigglecactus6605]

My 8th grade German teacher claimed to be a thousand year old witch and called teaching brainwashing, talking about how she was proud when we used German outside of class because it meant the brainwashing was working. Favorite teacher in 8th grade by far

[@DrizzyB]

Ben: "Taxation is theft." Kids: *"Alright, listen here you little sh!t-"*

[@NateTalksToYou]

I was raised Methodist. They have some nice church architecture.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Vasuh was comparing a 30 year old Protestant church too a 200 year old Catholic one, if he'd compared like for like he'd notice they were just as grand i.e. St Paul's Cathedral. The only difference is less gold as both methodist and Protestants could see that, the gold was just a way the church was getting rich and is actually quite disrespectful in their eyes.

[@Necroskull388]

@@Alex-cw3rz I partially agree. I think that what Vaush is primarily distasteful of is American protestant churches, not old European Protestant architecture. You can't really compare like for like in terms of age in that category, but you can compare like for like in terms of expense and grandiosity -- and grandiose non-Protestant churches are almost universally beautiful old buildings, while grandiose American Protestant churches are just stadiums with massive television screens for snake oil salesmen.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@Necroskull388 so again he wasn't comparing like for like. What about St. John the Divine or Trinity Church Wall Street New York I could go on and that's New York alone. Also only a lot of protestants are not evangelicals.

[@captainjules6033]

“Say what you will about organized religion, but those bastards knew how to construct and edifice”

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

Yeah Protestants are all about being close to Scripture, it doesn't mandate how churches are to be built, they took place at home originally after all (but Ten Minute Bible Hour and Gospel Simplicity tour through every denomination, check them out!)

[@RJCain]

Ben and Matt stealing Vaush's bit is not an accident. They are imitating him after watching so much of his content.

[@theturtle9724]

Ben is lucky that the kids didn’t start shoving him into a locker

[@TheVeryHungrySingularity]

"freedom is making good choices" like taking free vaccinations for a global pandemic

[@josjos-x5s]

@@h..8083 you're insane

[@CyreniTheMage]

@@h..8083 It's conspiratorial and baseless. That's why.

[@lunarrobot9714]

@@h..8083 "Just trust me bro." Seriously, if there was ACTUALLY a conspiracy that big, then you should have no problems providing a source yea?

[@CyreniTheMage]

@@h..8083 And what if I've read into it and drawn a different conclusion based on the information gathered?

[@lunarrobot9714]

@@h..8083 Right soo... I don't belive you. At all. Because as far as we're concerned, you could just be a liar. So give us the source of you info. You don't even have to send us a link. Just give us the article names and what website they're on.

[@grekounas]

When those kids go out for recess and they are picking teams, Shapiro would still be picked last from all these kids.

[@iandavis6759]

Vaush might have been trying to exaggerate when he said there are 40,000 Protestant denominations but I looked it up and there is 40,000.

[@Rafs-on-the-roof]

I have to say on the homeschooling front, I was homeschooled for 6 years between the ages of 10-16. It was a really great experience which i have gained many lifelong friends from, as i would often meet other homeschooled kids. I am now in school again to do higher education, but I think the time I spent homeschooling really did wonders for my character as I get along with people much better than I did before I started. And no I did not go into homeschool because my parents didn't want me being influenced by "leftist propaganda" or anything it was because I really struggled with the entire school environment and stuff at that age. I do not regret my time being homeschooled at all.

[@sagemccrary4528]

Yeah, probably most home schooling is Christian families trying to “protect their kids from a sinful world” but some disabled kids also need it bc they can’t make it to/handle our current school system and abolishing it would punish them too

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

This is the time to plug Blimey Cow

[@jennanyx4968]

Ben "climate change isn't a problem" Shapiro: "you guys are gonna live a long time"

[@addasonny]

As someone who was homeschooled until high school I have to say that being homeschooled really sucked. Sure your schedule becomes more flexible and it makes it easier for different learn more efficiently but the overall social isolation drove me crazy. Sure you can go to co-ops and events with other homeschooled kids but it is very different from other social interactions. If you didn’t have a friend when you were 5, you probably wouldn’t have one when you’re 13 or 15.

[@Advent3546]

The redheaded girl in the middle was having none of this.

[@paroxysm9112]

I've got to disagree with the homeschooling bit, personally. I opted to do homeschooling when I was a kid because I was dealing with relentless bullying and suicidal ideation. I enjoyed being by myself and having the ability to complete work agt my own pace. Homeschooling was SO much less stressful for me. My parents weren't insane weirdos trying to shelter me. Then again, I do realize this is the case for many others. I also loved when my college classes switched to online. Some people just work better online and it has nothing to do with sheltering or whatever.

[@phoenixninja7675]

yeah that homeschool rant was utterly miles off and was a terrible generalization

[@kittypig3619]

Finally, Ben Shapiro does a fan meet up

[@jasminewaldo7045]

Oof this makes me so grateful that my parents kept politics out of my childhood. They never watched the news in front of me, and the only reason I ever knew who the president was was because of school. Although they might personally regret that since they’re conservative and I turned out to be a leftist. 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

[@EYTPS]

When Ben Shapiro gives a childish opinion like "taxes is government stealing from people" and toddlers can figure out they're wrong, that's more proof the voting age needs to be lowered... I'm joking, people

[@mostlysure1077]

That's a bad idea. Some old people decay slower than others and are still sharp, even in their 80s. Kids, on the other hand are all underdeveloped mentally, not to mention their lack of experience in the world.

[@justin__roderick]

i can't believe that a four year old telling ben shapiro that he "seems to know a lot" is the actual peak of his career

[@algorithm_acolyte]

Jesus, chat is dumb sometimes. Utilitarianism =/= Things can't look nice It's actually a utilitarian good to have facilities/buildings that people can appreciate aesthetically, there are psychological benefits to not being surrounded by ugly shit all the time.

[@lelrond]

But pretty thing not useful *soys*

[@MagicOgre]

I want to jump in and say that homeschooling CAN be good... if your kid is susceptible to severe bullying at school or other circumstances. When I was going to grade school, there was some pretty targeted bullying directed at me, and the teachers would actively look away and pretend they saw nothing. I literally had to replace two pairs of glasses in one week, hundreds of dollars per pair, because kids would knock them off my head and then stomp on them. Note that I came from a REALLY poor family, too, and when my parents took it up with the principal she pretended like nobody had any idea who actually did that to me. We didn't have the money to keep replacing things like stolen lunch money, broken glasses, and missing jackets. We were poor. Between that and some of the violence directed at me, I had to go to home school. A few years later I went back to school and I had a better grasp of english, mathematics, geography, and literature than my classmates (since my mom is a fairly well educated former chemist). I wound up being in the top of my class for 5th and 6th grade, competing with a pair of rich twins for the best grades. And I made a ton of friends once I got came back, too. Seriously, if I'd never been pulled out of school, I'd have probably been bullied even worse as the years went on. Instead, I got to develop in a safer environment thanks to home schooling. Anecdotal evidence, I know; but I would be in a much worse position mentally and educationally if not for home schooling.

[@QuantumRipple]

God imagine how much of a fun, dorky ass dad he could be if someone just did the ol caveman headache trick to pour out all of his political demons

[@roachofdoom1234]

Finally Ben picks on someone his own size

[@ComradeChyrk]

Imagine meeting a six year old who has ever even heard of roe vs wade. They really couldnt of made it more obvious that the kids were told what to ask

[@sharkpaw]

"If Ben wanted to be president he could probably be it tomorrow, but he just talks about it" had me rolling. the kids face was like "yeah, he just wants to flaunt his knowledge when he could be out there changing things but I guess he won't"

[@snoixalicious]

i was homeschooled as for kindergarten, first, and most of second grade, for completely different reasons than youre presenting my mom went through hell in public school and didnt think i should go through that at such a young age. she was agnostic, the most religious influence we had was some paganism and vague spirituality but overall it was extremely an liberal thing since religious beliefs are so personal. i had friends when i was little, id meet other kids my age because she was a member of many parenting groups, i was taught how to deal with people i didnt like in a mature way and my communication skills were pretty good i get concern with homeschooling but if done right it can actually be really really beneficial. just being conservative shouldnt be a valid reason to homeschool your kids though, not wanting a literal five year old to be bullied is.

[@snoixalicious]

also for learning basic arithmetic its pretty good since me and my little sister could receive waaaay more individual instruction than we wouldve gotten in public school

[@DarthScrewtape27]

those kids aren’t 4! Looks like there’s a range of ages. But not one is below school age

[@releasethefrogs]

22:39 I know plenty of people that are hippies/progressives who put their kids through homeschool, and recreation/community centers, kid groups, dance lessons, sports leagues, etc, for social interaction, & it worked; they’re cool people now.

[@shatzinorris1417]

Hi love. I've been semi homeschooled, went to a boarding school, went unschooled and went through both public and private school in France. There are a lot of people like me that simply CAN'T handle the 8h30 - 17h30 hours of doing things I already knew again and again and again. It was something like medical homeschooling

[@parazitkolol]

My girlfriend decided to start homeschooling in highschool due to severe social anxiety. Luckily she has a great mom that made sure she actually learned stuff, although if she hadn't that could've gotten her into a really bad situation. Maybe the solution would be to allow homeschooling with a diagnosis which would require it?

[@rayafoxr3]

I begged my parents to be homeschooled when I was in 6th grade due to depression and such, I'm glad my parents listened to me even though it didn't go well for me. I had undiagnosed ADHD and I had a lot of trouble with it. It wasn't a religious thing at all either. But I do somewhat agree, I think preschool education is important and kids should go to school, but after a while homeschooling may need to be considered. As well as systemic changes that make homeschooling less vital, like better treatment and understanding of neurodivergent kids. As for online school... ya, I super struggled with that. My school went half-online half-in person at one point, and I went, but when it was made full time in person, my OCD was really bad and I wouldn't be able to function at school, so I sorta just took advantage of the fact kids were allowed to do online school because if Covid-19 if they wanted and did that. And my grades were shit. So that was also a negative experience, but I also genuinely needed that.

[@dracocrusher]

Jeez, you can literally feel the moment where they realize the kids aren't asking good questions and they start just telling them what to say. If any of these kids were just a bit older we'd get all kinds of stories about how they were told what to ask immediately after this video was uploaded.

[@Noahthelasercop]

What if like one of these kids grows up to be like a leftwing activist/professor/social scientist and spells the downfall of Shapiro by absolutely demolishing him in a debate or something. That would be rad as hell.

[@KRistian87283]

even toddlers know how out of touch, Ben Shapiro is.

[@AmySavage6]

Why would anyone do this? I mean I started actively following politics when I was 11 but I was a weird kid, I was also very very wrong about most things... That's why you leave politics to adults, they're supposed to know better... They just don't.

[@austinmccon2759]

Some of those kids had deeper voices than Benny boy

[@Roxor128]

The man has GOT to have a hidden helium tank on him somewhere! There's no way that voice can be natural.

[@trylius]

LMAO

[@a.c.198]

All the kid needed to do to make Ben run would be to hit em with Alden's number

[@shehtabzarif4295]

those kids are chads

[@kaydenl6836]

My girlfriend does entirely online school precisely because she’s not very social lol. She went to Public school until around 6th grade, but always hated it. She can get along with others fine and shit like that, she just finds it so taxing to be around a bunch of other kids/teens

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

That's cool, did she ask to be schooled online, or does her school already have an online program?

[@MayaTheOwl]

To talk about homeschooling, as a homeschooler of 6 years in florida that Ben shapiro ironically loves so much. Homeschool is the only reason I could graduate highschool because i have severe social anxiety disorder. My county has laws where you still have to prove youre learning the curriculum or they will mark ur parent as unqualified to teach and then continuing homeschool is truancy, so you can either pass a yearly evaluation of all your school work with a county teacher, pass a state test, or bring in transcripts from a approved online school. Homeschool has its issues but when the material being taught is regulated it can be the only possible education option for kids with anxiety disorders, learning disabilities, kids with medical issues, kids whos parents move a lot for work and may miss whole semesters, etc. Yeah christian conservative -brainwashing- homeschooling is disgusting, but homeschooling itself shouldnt be dismissed as only a tool for that.

[@sansundertale3333]

I live in Florida, I wish people stopped putting my state on a pedestal, our roads suck but we have to drive them because there is no public transport, schools are garbage unless you live in a wealthy community, our cities have a ton of homeless people which we do nothing about, and the only reason we get to have no state income tax is because of federal money, taxes on tourism, and high sales tax.

[@robertosian6329]

Wierd how conservatives like Ben complain about political indoctrination of the youth and how they shouldn't be subjected to that, and then... This.

[@armedweiss5531]

It's only indoctrination if it's not someone on the far right to them.

[@superdrwholock]

Seeing shapiro laugh is like seeing a cow fly

[@piglin_gold64]

I was homeschooled. Didn't do co op, and the churches only had old farts. My only friend was my cat lol. I was miserable and now me and my siblings are pretty messed up. I have severe social anxiety too 🙃

[@MetalxLicaxPP]

Cats go meow meow

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

😢

[@carnasondrakith2553]

I don't think home schooling should be banned considering that I am home schooled and my home schooling has nothing to do with sheltering from other opinions it was about not getting into the shitty public school system.

[@carnasondrakith2553]

I am an atheist if you were wondering.

[@carnasondrakith2553]

In fact 70% of our group is not religious, not necessarily atheist however.