Benchmade Redoubt 430 - No Doubt Tactical/EDC Hard USER!

Looking at our newest addition to the Benchmade knife collection, the Redoubt. Part of the Black Class, this EDC heavy user would be very comfortable with gloved hands.
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[@LanningKann]

I have been carrying one (partially serrated) for a week now. I’ve always been a big Griptillian fan, even though I’ve generally gravitated to BMs more expensive models. I would almost call this a “Lightweight Freek” based on dimensions and build toughness. I know it’s not a Freek, but the oversized washers, thicker stop pin and thicker blade kinda move it away from the Griptillian. I’m in law enforcement and can tell you that when you’re already wearing a bunch of tools on your kit, it’s nice to have a knife with this level of build at this weight. I tried the Bugout, which is a fantastic knife, but just doesn’t fill my hand. Same goes with my Spydercos. They are fantastic knives, but don’t have the hand fill of the Redoubt. I think this knife will surely start a new era of light weight heavy users. I’m betting a mini will come by next year. And of course the aftermarket will have a field day with that green overlay. It would be neat to see a Topographic overlay in black. If I had to pick a potential issue it’s that I’m seeing less room for wear on more current axis locks. The spot where the axis bar rests when the blade is open, has less additional travel allowance for wear than on other BMs that I’ve had in the past. I also have both the Grivory and Aluminum Bailout which seem to have this smaller amount of wear space. I’m wondering if BM changed their tolerances or lock dimensions which allowed them to have more engagement with slower wear? If you remember the older Adamas would disengage and close if you put weight against the spine. So maybe they fixed that with more engagement. On mine I’ve also noticed the lock ramp on the blade tang has a light brown/gold hue like it’s been carburized or heat treated differently than the rest of the blade. Even the rounded area where the axis bar rides against the blade as it’s opening is the normal silver of the steel. But the lock ramp itself is a brownish hue. At least on mine. It makes me wonder if they hardened the ramp to slow the wear down and then allowed more engagement of the axis bar to prevent disengagement? Thoughts?

[@nickstu22]

Cool design. Love the traditional Barlow lines through the handle design and a great edc blade shape

[@Obliticus]

Bird is right, it's Ree-doubt. Google has a audio pronunciation, as do a lot of search engines.

[@keylitho]

It reminds me of the Izula Folder concept that never came out some years ago... I will for sure be getting one of these..

[@BirdShotIV]

See if the dealer Revolver Tactical has any left!

[@AG-xn2ff]

Have one, love it !!

[@jd4edc]

Love seeing new knives from Benchmade. 👍

[@BirdShotIV]

Agreed

[@OLMmedic]

I love it. Need to grab one

[@markerparker80]

Got one on order! Good looking kni! Excited!

[@BirdShotIV]

Comment back on how you like yours 👍

[@cvltzilla]

It kinda reminds me of that time nutnfancy spray painted his griptilian and put grip tape on the scales

[@BirdShotIV]

😆😆👍👍 yes!!

[@EDCNC-YT]

The first exciting model from BM in a while!! I’m excited to try one!

[@BirdShotIV]

Let us know if you get one

[@EDCNC-YT]

@@BirdShotIV will do! I should have a video up as soon as I get one!

[@foreveryoursbk01]

same blade on my claymore love it

[@bronsonstrange3827]

So, unfortunately back in January my griptilian had slipped out of my pocket while at work. I noticed less than 15 minutes later and went back to where I know it fell out, but it wasn't there. Afterwards I started looking at a replacement knife and saw the Redoubt on the new 2022 listings. I've patiently waited for it to release, and it will be delivered to me tomorrow. Really looking forward to using it! Side note: one of the things I was most worried about was getting a replacement with a "sticky" action. I don't ever use the thumb studs. I only use the AXIS lock to both open and close the knife, which was possible with the griptilian. Seeing that this is basically the Griptilian 2.0 (and seeing others handle it), I have no worries that this will be an excellent replacement!

[@danhiggins9535]

Benchmade really nailed it on this one! Pre-ordered one from Blade HQ, got a first production 🤘

[@BirdShotIV]

Nice! Thanks Dan

[@knotsandknives1632]

I’ve always pronounced it as ‘Redowt’ and it’s a quick military fortification... think Rorkes Drift... movie ‘Zulu’. Classic film. Love the design.

[@louiskoestner4337]

It's redoubt. Something formidable and awe inspiring. Also a synonym for heavily fortified..

[@robertphifer7955]

You have to buy the knife from Benchmade whether you use their scales or not. There is no loss for Benchmade!

[@richardvirchow3390]

You’ve got a nice Benchmade collection. I’m considering buying a Redoubt and came by for your thoughts.

[@marklawrence855]

Love my bugout, does it all for me 😀

[@BirdShotIV]

Tough to beat for a lot of guys

[@briand563]

But now seeing your 940s ...i need one of those again lol

[@davekelsey2338]

Great knife. I have had one for 2 months. Paid $160 now they are selling for $180. Good design.

[@22lrSavage]

When I first saw pictures of this knife a while back it instantly reminded me of an civivi elementum with a mix of some other designs

[@BirdShotIV]

Blade shape definitely similar to the Elementum 👍

[@jhawk1985]

Hey👋 The green bugout is nice

[@BirdShotIV]

Needs thumb studs!!

[@carlito5552]

Got my Blade Show West tix yesterday. Salt Lake City early October

[@BirdShotIV]

Can’t wait!

[@Obliticus]

After collecting many "axis-lock" style knives, I'd have to agree with you on Benchmade's engineering mastery. The only brand that comes close (and maybe even on par) is Hogue with their "Able Lock", which is very well done.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks for commenting your experience

[@dobie-at-home]

Crap! I hadn’t heard that! Is that gonna be a thing now, where manufacturers go after the after-market scale makers? What about the guys that make aftermarket pocket clips like MXG, Lynch? … or is this just Benchmade needing a little drama?! 🙄

[@michaelmechex]

Yeah, that's scummy. Buy Spyderco then. They don't make deep carry pocket clips and don't revise the PM2 so that aftermarket parts makers make money too and their products aren't outdated

[@BirdShotIV]

The drama probably helps sales in the end 😆 😆

[@petersirangelo2867]

I personally think that H&k hogue and SOG make pretty good axis/crossbar locks I think that the price point on this particular knife is a little high I have for instance a Sig k320 with the Tanto stonewashed blade that was the knife center exclusive I picked it up for about a hundred bucks it's s30v a polymer handle four-way positionable deep carry pocket clip that has a little recess so it does not tear up your pants it's comfortable in any grip you could possibly imagine and I've yet to dull the blade and I've used it quite a bit My only regret is I bought it in a tanto and not the drop point if I find a good price on the drop point I'm going to be picking one up soon too and now they make it in aluminum with an insert in the handle but they're a bit pricey I think right now somewhere around $180 I think this particular knife is a little high I think it should be around the 100 to $120 range for D2 steel and plastic handles Yes I know it's kind of a big handle but it is still plastic I also have a griptilian that I find fills my hand very well I think it is s30v blade steel black coated orange handle it's very smooth it's probably one of the better Axis locks that I have next to my older adamas which is very slick and beefy and that was a high price knife too I think mine is D2 as well and it was somewhere around $200 or just under 195 I think I bought it for a while back a few years ago actually I may pick this up if it goes on sale or I can find one at a better price but I'm no rush to get one because of the price but it does look like it's a pretty good knife definitely a pocket shredder I have nothing against D2 tool steel I have several mods with it but I just think that the price point of that steel has gone up over the years just to keep up with the market that seems to be a trend with knives that they're using a more economical steel but charging a higher price same thing would handle material take for instance the Cold Steel razor tech with 4116 steel and they were asking around a $140 range I think now they've dropped the price because people were complaining quite a bit about it but I think even a smallest one is still somewhere around $100 and I think that's still a little high for that steel although I do have a cold steel pocket bushman that's older and I've yet to dull that blade and I've used it quite a bit so their heat treat is spot on with it but I guess time will tell I may pick one up someday

[@gregsobek722]

No thanks for $160, plastic and D2. Rather get a Honey Badger for $40 !

[@BirdShotIV]

Fair enough, thanks Greg 😬

[@Veesaki]

Cpm-D2 ........ All. around very very nice steel.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Kirk

[@timb4425]

When I first heard about the Redoubt, I loved the design and look. When I heard they were using CPM D2 at over $160, they lost my interest. Hopefully they re-release it in another steel thst is a bit more corrosion resistant in the future.

[@fasterpastor4383]

It not like your regular D2. It’s a lot better.

[@timb4425]

@@fasterpastor4383 I understand that it is the powder metal based D2, still not any more corrosion resistant. For me, not worth $160+, but if it is worth it to you, go for it. At that price, I could get M390, 20CV, S45VN, or a variety of others.

[@reaper117nobody7]

gerber sedulo is made in USA and has s30v with polymer handles. actually kinda sickening that gerber now makes a better knife than benchmade

[@davidbaize4825]

Well, nice collection of Benchmade knives!!! I have a full size Griptillian, and have to say, this new knife kinda reminds me of my Griptillian. I’m on the fence about the price and the offered blade steel. Wonder why they didn’t use Magnacut? Great review y’all!!!😁👍

[@BirdShotIV]

Magnacut is the most prized steel atm but the price would have gone up

[@Cyanoblades]

The Hogue able lock is a bit better than the Axis lock. My gripe with Hogue is there's almost no aftermarket support. Which leads into BM going after Rogue Bladeworks, which is really bad for us as consumers. Having customization options is good, especially when they release knives like this one with terrible plastic handles.

[@Pennantconstruction]

Hot take if the day: the redoubt is a worse/newer version of the grizzly ridge. Both have overly grippy handles, both are the same exact size, grizzly ridge has s30v and g10 redoubt is cpmd2 and plastic. Same price

[@adamimberti6948]

Hotter take: This knife is an ugly cheap piece of shit with a butterfly on it.

[@alpine1600s]

It's in Frankie's favorite steel!😱

[@BirdShotIV]

You know it!

[@jefferys9593]

My Hogues have very good "axis" lock action. But Benchmade blade shapes and larger handles tend to make better work knives that get used the most often. Redoubt on order, waiting for mine.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Jeff

[@rogeredwards9156]

Reminds me of the Griptillian

[@The4cp]

I'm not a massive Benchmade fan, but I really like this. I don't have a bugout. I hate that thing.

[@BirdShotIV]

Who HATES a Bugout?? 😆 😆 thanks for commenting

[@holtmike181]

I’m all for aftermarket scales and accessories because the original manufacture wants to much for their factory products. But “buyer beware” because you get what you pay for. I needed omega springs for a Bugout and Benchmade wouldn’t send them to me so I went with an aftermarket brand and they seem to work great so far. As far as the Redoubt goes, not a huge fan. Looks like a pocket shredder. Still waiting on the “ Immunity”.

[@deempeter]

Where did the benchmade towel/hank come from in the background?

[@BirdShotIV]

One of the Shot Shows

[@CoordinatedCarry]

Plastic & CPM D2? Better be some really good build quality for $162

[@BirdShotIV]

We can say for sure the build quality is solid

[@carpssmell31]

I stopped counting after day 300

[@DanielEPiza]

Heeeyyyyy, I like it a lot !!

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Daniel, us too!

[@MrHayes-cb7hp]

Looks like a “re-do” of the original Freek. Why plastic again!

[@michaelmechex]

I'd rather have the Griptilian, honestly. Good thing I already have one. They didn't really make anything I had to buy since the Bugout. Seems like all I've been buying recently are Civivis and Cold Steels, oddly enough.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Michael

[@davegoodridge8352]

Is CPM-D2 stainless? I have no luck with D2.

[@BirdShotIV]

Yep, crucible particle metallurgy

[@Tom-cp6yj]

eh, why not just use S30v for that price?

[@BirdShotIV]

D2 even in CPM probably still less expensive

[@mbeasley90]

Obligatory comment for the algorithm. Appreciate you guys!

[@BirdShotIV]

Haha thanks Miles

[@Jasontheawesome1]

Held this one today. Feels real good in hand, IMO but idk how cpm d2 it's worth the price

[@BirdShotIV]

USA made is always gonna hike up that price

[@Jasontheawesome1]

@@BirdShotIV . It was $150 think I'm gonna have to go back

[@briand563]

Man i just dont know about this one. I kinda want one just to check out. But just seems like a little bit different griptilian. Not sure i like the pocket clip either.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Brian

[@briand563]

@@BirdShotIV so i caved and went ahead and bought one lol. It got herw today and i have to say i really like it. I think it feels better than the griptilian in hand. And not as fat as i thought the scales would be. Also seen awt might be making scales for it soon which is a bonus although i dont even mind the stock ones. Not bad at all👍

[@BirdShotIV]

@@briand563 thanks for the update and impressions!

[@briand563]

@@BirdShotIV welcome! Thank you for the replies! You guys are awesome 👍

[@jb7707]

Benchmade trying to stop after market scales makes no sense. I guarantee they know they sold many times more bugouts because of the aftermarket support.

[@patrickmccrea3455]

Thanks guys yeah 160$ for D2 no i think thats a little high the only benchmade that blows my skirt up is the bailout in M4

[@BirdShotIV]

😂 😂 😛 😛

[@randytherhino]

The non-serrated already sold out @ BHQ; which is why they are on 'pre-order' now.

[@BirdShotIV]

4th 🗑

[@oftnaughten2306]

What are those other knives on the table?

[@BirdShotIV]

Mostly Bugouts and 940’s

[@BuffaloNickel9]

Nakamura 484

[@BuffaloNickel9]

Pardue

[@tylerwilliams1088]

I also prefer the option to customize scales. Benchmade needs to lighten up.

[@BirdShotIV]

Starting to think they are using reverse psychology to encourage scale makers 🤔 🤔 😂 😂

[@alpine1600s]

Tear up your pocket, so Cold Steel fans will feel right at home... except they have the Atlas lock now...🤔

[@undergroundexplorer8378]

How many knives do you two have? It must be a thousand! Am I close?

[@BirdShotIV]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🧐

[@RobBernhard]

I like the look but not the pocket shredding scales. Maybe this would be a good pack knife? Bring it camping, hiking etc but not for EDC at least not for me. USA made is good and I like Benchmade but the price is difficult to understand. This should be less than the Presidio II and maybe even less than the Mini Presidio II (which continues to be the best value in the BM lineup)

[@BirdShotIV]

Camping/hiking absolutely

[@alpine1600s]

If BM is going after aftermarket scale sellers, that's what Ben's Knafs Launch's main selling point is they give you info on how to make 3d printed scales.🤔

[@mrhairypalm5006]

👍🏻

[@carlstanland5333]

Next is the Benchmade NoDoubt, but we “Don’t speak” about it.

[@BirdShotIV]

How did we not think of that

[@SmilingGator96]

It's redoubt, like the fortification.

[@DavidV4444]

Great video - this is not my cup of tea - aluminum or titanium or G10 not gas station plastic at $160+.

[@kevink.2719]

Hey

[@BirdShotIV]

Kevin 👋

[@alpine1600s]

Idk, but checking my steel alloy app, CPM-D2 has .25 less vanadium the standard D2. 🤔 I'll stick with my heat treat and geometry when critiquing knives.

[@brianf9619]

It's NOT Worth $162 for Those Materials , in My opinion , I'd just buy another Griptilian with S30V for around $117 ....

[@paulmedrano440]

Heyyyyy

[@BirdShotIV]

1st 🥇

[@doktorb3at]

I disagree. Hogue's execution of that type of lock ( their Able Lock ), is better.

[@BirdShotIV]

We need to get ours (Hogue’s) more EDC time

[@carlito5552]

Yo

[@BirdShotIV]

2nd 🥈

[@a.k.vollmer5200]

I don’t like the pocket clip.

[@derekchapel2783]

Heeeey!!!

[@BirdShotIV]

3rd 🥉

[@d1grizz]

I agree benchmade makes a nice knife, but I cannot abide greedy companies that don't understand where their money comes from, that being flag waving Americans. I still think back to the gun cutting incident and it still makes me dislike them and hearing about them bullying small business people that are doing them no harm just reinforces my dislike. I don't have any of their knives and I don't plan on getting any. I know most people don't care about this, but maybe that's why the US is swirling down the toilet. I'll support Hogue knives. Better and less money.

[@BirdShotIV]

We need to get our Hogue knives out and do some comparison carry and video 👍👍

[@MrSlicer2424]

Benchmade cheaping out because they're painting them black.

[@aawillma]

I'm a nonpedantic language nerd so I'll drop some cool info about the knife name for those curious. If the Redoubt is named after the military building it does have an official pronunciation. (It was a building in Age of Empires!) What's interesting though is that the official pronunciation is not specific so it can be said many ways and be correct. Neither "red-out" or "reed-out" are correct. The prefix vowel uses the schwa sound 'rə'. The English Schwa doesn't have a consistent pronunciation, it varies by word, accent, and context. In prefixes it is used as an unstressed "sound". It isn't even supposed to be heard much at all! It's not uncommon to prnounce that part of a word differently every time you say it because it doesn't matter. Like the first vowel sound in ridiculous and redemption. Both words could be pronounced with a short u, short i, long e, or short e sound and sound fine. The important part of this word is doubt. How you say the first part is mostly irrelevant as long as it's unstressed. So I would consider it more like "r'doubt".

[@stephenlukovich9648]

Honestly that’s a rip off for a plastic D2 blade. Should have said 90$

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Stephen

[@Christopher33312]

$162??? Really? That doesn't actually seem like that much. Capital l capital o capital l. Frankie, Nothing's too big for you and you think that's a burn on Bird? You've been with him 20 years he must be equipped like a horse. Of course, by that, I mean, a horse's brain. Cause horses are smart 🤓. Local gun and knife show? The Indy 1500? Crap.

[@BirdShotIV]

😬 😬 😆 😆

[@billveitch2100]

You both missed it on the pronunciation of name, it’s reh-DOUT.

[@ebosspt]

At the risk of being "that guy".... from the Google.... "/ra'dout/: a temporary or supplementary fortification, typically square or polygonal and without flanking defenses." "the British stormed the rebel redoubt"

[@BirdShotIV]

wow what a jerk… 😛

[@starkparker16]

it's kind of a "u" sound. ruh-dowt. nice knife but the plastic sounds cheap under Bird's fingernail.

[@alpine1600s]

In ENGLISH, it's Re-doubt.

[@mikep.9371]

Looks more like a gas station knife at 2x the price.

[@alpine1600s]

Does $162 include Biden-inflation?

[@BirdShotIV]

Otherwise it would have been $158 😛

[@donwendling7800]

Way over-priced for the materials!