Bus architecture and how register transfers work - 8 bit register - Part 1

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Ben Eater

Ben Eater

Күн бұрын

Before we build the registers for our 8-bit computer, this video describes the basic operation of the bus and how data moves from one module to another across the bus. See eater.net/bbcp... for more.
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@KolasName
@KolasName 7 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons why Ben started this video series is to demonstrate his awesome colorful set of ball pens.
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 6 жыл бұрын
nah ... he just moved and couldnt find his legos but he did find all these bits and bobs from the old days so decided to make something with them ;)
@borisdorofeev5602
@borisdorofeev5602 5 жыл бұрын
I too enjoy color coding my notes. You should see my physics notes. Every variable and coefficient has its own color. I think its kind of like OCD, but I just like everything to be neat. I respect Ben for his use of color. My brain processes it better for some reason.
@Synthetica9
@Synthetica9 4 жыл бұрын
All Pilot G2's, too. Gotta say, I envy him
@zulqarnayeenschaftler9323
@zulqarnayeenschaftler9323 4 жыл бұрын
😂xD
@ChristopherLien
@ChristopherLien 4 жыл бұрын
That he built on breadboards.
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland 4 жыл бұрын
The data on the bus goes round and round, round and round, round and round, the data on the bus goes round and round, all day long!
@borisdorofeev5602
@borisdorofeev5602 5 жыл бұрын
I recommend this channel so often to my classmates. I think they are beginning to think I am a little crazy by how much I enjoy learning the meat of the machinery. Most students these days just want to learn the higher level abstractions, and learn them fast to graduate ASAP and get a good job. I want to build this 8 bit computer out of transistors!
@Retrofire-47
@Retrofire-47 2 жыл бұрын
Most "students" these days are not students in the old-way, that is an apprentice to mastery within the community. If a blacksmith died his kin took up the anvil, and if they were incompetent the entire community faltered. I believe there used to be more honor and integrity associated with *mastering* your craft, instead of simply making it financially viable to commercial interest (the bare minimum). Somewhere along the line I think these two were conflated: ie degree (piece of paper) = mastery.
@superemma1785
@superemma1785 2 жыл бұрын
@@Retrofire-47 That point is when you stopped having workers be valued by their employers. If your employer only cares about how much value you can produce for them, then you stop caring about learning the deeper information for them.
@garrettgold
@garrettgold Жыл бұрын
Transistors would be fun
@RaahimAzfar
@RaahimAzfar 3 ай бұрын
don't make it with only transistors
@markzhao4295
@markzhao4295 6 жыл бұрын
I should have just paid my $35,000 college tuition to you.
@pichass9337
@pichass9337 4 жыл бұрын
Only 35k? Try *80*
@heh2393
@heh2393 4 жыл бұрын
@@pichass9337 80 dollars? HELL YEAH!
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@pichass9337 4 жыл бұрын
@@heh2393 i wish...
@heh2393
@heh2393 4 жыл бұрын
@@pichass9337 I am lucky, India's best colleges offer nearly full scholarship
@sujataparvatiacharya8958
@sujataparvatiacharya8958 3 жыл бұрын
That's really too much 😱 But I am quite lucky dude😎
@FireFox2382
@FireFox2382 6 жыл бұрын
This guy's channel is a gold mine for CE/EE students! omg!
@laser31415
@laser31415 5 жыл бұрын
It's been said before, but I will add, "your breadboarding skills are a work of art".
@rogercoffey2848
@rogercoffey2848 8 жыл бұрын
Taking a computer architecture course, and this is just what the doctor ordered. Thanks!
@dennisdills3795
@dennisdills3795 7 жыл бұрын
Roger Co
@vikranttyagiRN
@vikranttyagiRN 6 жыл бұрын
Same Here
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
I took Computer Architecture 10 years before KZbin was a thing. 😂
@squ1dd13
@squ1dd13 3 жыл бұрын
did you finish your course?
@vinvint
@vinvint 8 жыл бұрын
using this guide to make minecraft computer
@slap_my_hand
@slap_my_hand 8 жыл бұрын
Vincensius A have fun with the repeaters.
@AbsoluteTrash_
@AbsoluteTrash_ 8 жыл бұрын
+StarTrek123456 Thats why the project red mod is usefull
@petras01582
@petras01582 7 жыл бұрын
I presume that you've found Super Circuit Maker. If you want to do minecraft redstone, it's better with SCM.
@proxy1035
@proxy1035 6 жыл бұрын
Instant repeaters are a thing, they are fucking amazing, i have 2kB of RAM and can access any data within a few seconds
@ZReChannel
@ZReChannel 6 жыл бұрын
It's working fine with redstone hahaha
@Galluxi
@Galluxi 7 жыл бұрын
I love these kind of tutorials that are clear but very complex at the same time so I can understand a lot but it is still not too hard to understand. Thanks!
@xuweiweiweiweixu
@xuweiweiweiweixu 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had watched this video 20 years ago when I took my first computer architecture class, thanks!
@tiaxanderson9725
@tiaxanderson9725 5 жыл бұрын
2:26 Since I mentioned that I had build a Minecraft CPU on the previous video... I'll add that having separately build a primitive ALU, D-flop-flop registry, some sort of program memory (i.e. where the program is stored), and a clock with a manual cycle button and then connecting it all together with a bus... Just manually turning bits on and off in the program memory and hitting that 1-cycle button on the clock; to see the data go from the memory, to the registry, change a few bits, hit 1-cycle, and see the ALU slowly work through it. Beautiful.
@tiaxanderson9725
@tiaxanderson9725 3 жыл бұрын
@Graystripe Oh I only work with what you can do in survival. In fact, I had to look up what structure blocks even are xD
@skoue4165
@skoue4165 5 жыл бұрын
This is great. It's basically what I knd of figured out when building my first kit computer in 1980. It's really useful even today because it's still the way things work you just dont see it anymore.
@foxroulette8016
@foxroulette8016 5 жыл бұрын
1 + 1 is no longer 2! Rather, it's 0 (carry the 1).
@dannzo29
@dannzo29 5 жыл бұрын
It's also 2. It's like if you're adding 9+9 on paper, the answer is 8 carry the 1, but that's the same thing as 18
@fuzzylilpeach6591
@fuzzylilpeach6591 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, in the off chance you see this, I just finished building the clock module and I'm about to build the register and ALU kit. So far it's been a lot of fun! looking forward to finishing this computer. I wish this were how electronics were taught in school. It's a lot more engaging.
@Dhivakar
@Dhivakar 8 ай бұрын
Loved it. As a Embedded Software Developer, It was not easy to understand it fully as you have to assume since we can't see it with eyes. But, this made me feel so good. Learning Electronics is fun 😀. Wish I watched when the video was uploaded. Better late than never!!!
@Alexburn97
@Alexburn97 8 жыл бұрын
Would a similar machine with separate data and instruction memory with 2 buses, ie. a Harvard architecture be much more complicated than your current design?
@bryceforsyth8521
@bryceforsyth8521 5 жыл бұрын
Though a Harvard architecture would be completely different, I think It could be done very close to as simply as this machine.
@cqcumber0
@cqcumber0 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the new sum at 5:18 is not fed into register A again, since I remembered Ben explaining D flip-flops as essentially sampling at the rising edge of the clock for a tiny amount of time. So if the tiny amount of time was long enough and the adder was fast enough this would result in a feedback loop doing two or more consecutive additions here ((a+b)+b). I found a detailed video on how D flip-flops actually work (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJKUlWR8nciZe8k): They sample continuously at clock low and at the rising edge disable sampling and enable output. This way it makes much more sense, since the output enable from the adder is set at the falling clock edge, the value is on the bus before the rising edge occurs and will be sampled by the D flip-flop only until the rising clock edge occurs. Hope this helps someone who was wondering about the same thing! BTW Thank you very much Ben for these awesome videos!
@destoria2
@destoria2 4 жыл бұрын
This actually reminds me so much of my factorio Factory. I greet all of you who understand this message! For all of you that don't... Play Factorio
@pebre79
@pebre79 6 жыл бұрын
This series is a masterpiece
@Mayank-mf7xr
@Mayank-mf7xr 4 жыл бұрын
oh my god. i always had a hard time getting T-states and how an instruction cycle works. cycle by cycle, how reading and writing is done according to control signals. this is sooo good. i cannot stress this enough. this has helped me so much with my academics. thanks from the bottom of my heart. because what you teach, not even my professors do and that is what i'm paying for. ❤
@cowcannon8883
@cowcannon8883 5 жыл бұрын
This kinda reminds me of a factorio buss where instead of data its resources
@bobdagamer640
@bobdagamer640 4 жыл бұрын
cowcannon I played a similar game
@BiaBerrish
@BiaBerrish 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you say "just take it on faith" :)) Thank you very much for making these videos, they are extremely helpful! Especially for a concrete learner like me.
@harshrai456
@harshrai456 8 жыл бұрын
very good tutorial actually
@nathanjohnson9715
@nathanjohnson9715 7 жыл бұрын
these videos are so great! thanks for uploading them, you're a fantastic teacher!
@Ginto_O
@Ginto_O 5 жыл бұрын
not only computers organized around the bus but also factorio megabases
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go way back in time and show these videos to my electronics teacher at school... He would have said "woah! Let's make one of those!"
@uplink-on-yt
@uplink-on-yt Жыл бұрын
I had breadboards lying around for at least 10 years, but I never knew I could detach the power rails...
@karthikbm3307
@karthikbm3307 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best tutorials ever seen in my entire life..... you are amazing ...... awesome !!
@nilupulperera
@nilupulperera 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Everybody studying computer science must watch these video series. Thank you so much for your effort and time. Kindly think about to do more related to this topic. You are an extraordinary teacher.Thank you again Ben.
@Kosake82
@Kosake82 7 жыл бұрын
Rainbow bus all the way!
@iMPRE7ed
@iMPRE7ed 7 жыл бұрын
I remember assembly programming class was so confusing to everyone in CS class, after watching those videos, everything just makes so much sense
@pigalex
@pigalex 5 жыл бұрын
You are kinda like the computer engineer version of Bill Nye and Project Farm's demon child.
@clodgozon3968
@clodgozon3968 5 жыл бұрын
This is quite understandable even for a 14-year-old guy here thanks to you and your presentation. Human brains are more capable of to read and to understand visual representation of things, rather than logic. I was really confused how systems work because I just started assembly, until now.
@amegatron07
@amegatron07 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have an old dream about building smth like a computer inside some games, as you may have seen already (Minecraft, Factorio), but until this time I had very poor knowledge about its architecture. You've inspired me greatly! :) Also, I've partially read Tanenbaum's book, so I already now some basics about architecture, but I got stuck at a question which is not well covered there actually. Many sources in Internet tell us about 3 main "sub"-busses inside the bus: control-, address- and data-buses. Ok, that seems reasonable. The 8-bit bus in your example seems to be the data-bus when speaking in these terms. But, what I'm looking for, is the answer: how does cpu tell which exactly "device" it is going to communicate with? Using control-bus? As you said in your example, some control wires enable/load specific registers. So, concerning my question, I suppose, control bus is usually used to address specific device, so as I suppose there should be some "address" lanes inside it, which specify the "address" (a number in other words) of a specific device (assuming all devices have predefined number, which is "hardcoded" in the architecture - just for simplicity). Is that correct understanding?
@stephen4389
@stephen4389 5 жыл бұрын
Boom! And now I understand why clock speed is important. This video series is pure gold.
@Minecrafter20006
@Minecrafter20006 8 жыл бұрын
Can you give me a parts list or an estimate of how many chips I should buy and which (I'm German sorry for bad English)
@codyfsw
@codyfsw 7 жыл бұрын
go to Eater.net, thats his website with all the info you wanted
@djtoddles8750
@djtoddles8750 5 жыл бұрын
0:27 I can't believe you just flipped me off, bro. This vid's really good though so I'll let it slide
@Size
@Size 8 жыл бұрын
Love you for making these videos, really easy to follow and great explanations. Looking forward to getting my own one built! :D So exciting.
@questiontime6822
@questiontime6822 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben 74F189PC (74189 (64-bit random access memory)) is obsolete do you know of equivalent IC?
@james.oswald
@james.oswald 8 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting on this for months THANK YOU
@GrubenM
@GrubenM 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, please tell me you teach a Computer Architecture lab somewhere
@fluxlogic4149
@fluxlogic4149 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of replacing the RAM chip with an EEPROM but I found out that it would be way more complex.
@venkatbabu186
@venkatbabu186 Жыл бұрын
Assembly equivalent mov a b - means b load and a enable. The bit code in Intel for move is 001001111001101 . A 001 b 101. In Oops class transfer void main(int a, int b) { b = a; } ; .
@Robert_Shmigelsky
@Robert_Shmigelsky Жыл бұрын
This would be a 8-bit data bus? Suppose you had an 16-bit address bus, where would that fit with this? Or even a control bus.
@victorkrook9251
@victorkrook9251 5 жыл бұрын
This is so educational, thank you so much for this awesome content!
@dingodog5677
@dingodog5677 2 жыл бұрын
Am I ready for 8 bit processor. Idk but damn I’ll have a go.🤣😂
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
8:40 ahhhh ... the magic of language. 😏
@tomhankstomhanks2579
@tomhankstomhanks2579 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to nade microcintroller from ICs registers and counters latchs...?
@rayyankhan4737
@rayyankhan4737 3 ай бұрын
is the 74ls245n similar to sn74ls245n ? im confused can any one help
@jonathanfeller
@jonathanfeller 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great tutorial!
@MrDajiangyoude
@MrDajiangyoude 7 ай бұрын
I think one important piece of basic information missing is why an 8 wire bus is used instead of 1 wire.
@iNireus
@iNireus Жыл бұрын
3 years of day release C&G 224 condensed into your videos 😂👍😇
@toughbananas974
@toughbananas974 5 жыл бұрын
Are the load/enable operations essentially the same thing as read/write operations, just at the hardware level? Or does other, non-memory hardware also use the load/enable nomenclature with maybe some subtle differences?
@possible-realities
@possible-realities 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely related, but I wouldn't say it's the same. Load reads the value from the input (e.g. the bus) into a register. You could say that enable writes the value in a register onto the bus, but you need to remember that the bus doesn't have any memory itself, so the value only stays on the bus for as long as the enable is high (and the value in the register driving it stays the same). Another difference is that there might be many more enable and load signals in the hardware than the kinds of reads and writes that you see at a software level, a lot of it is just needed under the hood to make things work. In software, you can speak of doing a read from memory or a write to memory. But if you're communicating over a bus, you need to both enable the source that will drive the bus and enable the load from the bus in the same cycle transfer anything. On the other hand, if you have a dedicated connection to a register, then a load signal is enough to read the incoming data.
@ThuyNguyen-bu9ge
@ThuyNguyen-bu9ge 7 жыл бұрын
Now I see how a computer clock works! An action - read/write/execute - takes place with each pulse of the clock!
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 5 жыл бұрын
dempends on the design, but most take multiple cycles to preform any action.
@exe.m1dn1ght
@exe.m1dn1ght 9 ай бұрын
this is golden masterpiece.. I want this guy to be the president of the United States !
@patrickdoyle4581
@patrickdoyle4581 3 жыл бұрын
Are there current-limiting resistors on those LEDs you're using to show the register contents? I don't see any.
@Michael___0k9a
@Michael___0k9a 2 ай бұрын
What you need to know about refunds and their anticipated actions
@reinux
@reinux 7 жыл бұрын
it's all connected dude ●_●
@NavjeetSingh-db8to
@NavjeetSingh-db8to 6 ай бұрын
The way you’ve demonstrated it’s awesome
@HanshaniLavanya1
@HanshaniLavanya1 Жыл бұрын
Life hack: use small staples as short jumper wires
@Retrofire-47
@Retrofire-47 2 жыл бұрын
i can't believe i actually understood that
@racheljeehye
@racheljeehye 11 ай бұрын
this is really exciting! colleges should be indebted to people such as you. I am following along with your breadboard computer series as I embark in CS170. What was once a dreary black and white bullet point list of to-dos and completed has transformed into a bird's eye of this shining city on a hill.
@orcunsarmis2959
@orcunsarmis2959 7 ай бұрын
Great visual evidence of how thing works, pretty much first time I saw a Bus and Register. Thanks, subscribed and appreciated
@robertwilsoniii2048
@robertwilsoniii2048 Жыл бұрын
So are A, B and C semiconductors?
@tbrogoit02
@tbrogoit02 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you Ben. Found this very helpful in understanding what the bus system actually does.
@magrathean0
@magrathean0 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, my idiotic misunderstanding of how a data bus works, is broken. In my defence, from childhood i was fed pictures, graphics and animations of data 'travelling' on a road, like cars on a street. This picture never made much sense to me, but since I ended up working in 'IT', it was never challenged and I never fully examined it. The data bus works exactly like you would expect in the real world of wires - it is used to make one transmission and then another..tick tock, tick-tock as the clock ticks and tocks. Thank you - your series is an absolute gem.
@vitoschiraldi9762
@vitoschiraldi9762 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the following videos (doing right now), so if you if you talked about this in the following video, please ignore my comment; but I think an explanation of the tri-state concept at this point would be very helpful at solving the naturally occurring riddle "yes but what does it even mean 'enable the output', is the output of register-X's Nth bit high or low?? And how does the bus handle two registers outputting different values on the same bit?" That being said, thanks for this series, I have so badly wanted to make it myself [EDIT] Loool, you had already addressed exactly this point in the following video, as suspected xD
@Rollmops94
@Rollmops94 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are truly awesome. The only problem is that they create the strange urge within me to listen to Alt-j´s "In Cold Blood".
@titusjames4912
@titusjames4912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben I really like your channel and I especially like that very colorful bus drawing at the end of this video. Is there a way I could support your channel by purchasing that design on a t-shirt, or perhaps a similar design on a tie?
@EC-Engg
@EC-Engg Жыл бұрын
What happens if two enable is activated at same time
@xueli2379
@xueli2379 11 ай бұрын
This coloful board finally makes me understand how bus, ram, register work. These concepts are so abstract that I could never understand without the demostration of the real circuits board. Thank you so much for making these video!
@Thumper770
@Thumper770 6 жыл бұрын
So, basically, each "bit" of data is just a circuit? The circuit is either on or off, "1" or "0"? and you use transistors to direct, trap and release "packets" of "1"s or "0"s? Who knew it was so simple?
@ggir9979
@ggir9979 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had had access to your videos when I was studying EE, I probably would have had much better grades :-)
@arcade_signal
@arcade_signal 7 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, what breadboards are you using? All the cheap breadboards that can be pulled apart like that I can find have horrible holes that are either too tight or too loose, and they're warped so they don't sit flat when you connect them to each other. The only ones I've found that work properly are made by Pro'skit and they're expensive and don't come apart, instead of an adhesive bottom they're solid plastic. Thanks for the great videos!
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 4 жыл бұрын
I bet that computer is nigh impossible to get working with cheapo breadboards and shoddy connections :-)
@explodingcrack435
@explodingcrack435 7 ай бұрын
Your videos are an amazing resource for my computer architecture class. Im a visual/tactile learner so seeing a well done physical representation of these concepts is so helpful.
@deepasandeepa
@deepasandeepa 6 жыл бұрын
I was always wondering what is a difference between D latch and D Flip-flop. Now i understood it. Thanks.
@LuukvdHoogen
@LuukvdHoogen 3 жыл бұрын
it all seems so basic, but it connected so many things I understood vaguely before...
@tejaskhanna5155
@tejaskhanna5155 7 жыл бұрын
This is how they should teach basic Computer System and Architecture in schools man! Loved it! Thank You Ben Eater!
@eddeveloper2425
@eddeveloper2425 4 жыл бұрын
you are a genius Mr.Ben. Im a Huge Fan. thanks for publishing all these.
@HelloWorld-tn1tl
@HelloWorld-tn1tl 3 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest cpu I've ever seen.
@officeoffice3826
@officeoffice3826 6 жыл бұрын
pictorial presentation is best and easily understandable.... Thanks Sir..
@JagroopSingh-er8ei
@JagroopSingh-er8ei 4 жыл бұрын
U can add the GPU to your computer
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 6 жыл бұрын
this madman didn't use a ruler for those 8 adjacent lines... crazy
@tyrellwreleck4226
@tyrellwreleck4226 4 жыл бұрын
I've been googling but i can't find what is an 8 stage shift-store bus register. Is it the same as 8 bit bus register?
@zes3813
@zes3813 7 жыл бұрын
wr,theyr not simple or unsimplx, multiple is not more diffx etc. tho
@easyamp123
@easyamp123 3 жыл бұрын
I was concerned I might have to much time on my hands, Thanks
@xavierturano548
@xavierturano548 2 жыл бұрын
i don't think this guy knows how smart he is, love your videos man keep it up
@salveruajay9553
@salveruajay9553 4 жыл бұрын
How we use bus as mutiplexed
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony 8 жыл бұрын
So the bus is pretty much a distributed multiplexer/demultiplexer ;) Also it's quite interesting that the internal structure of a CPU is pretty much the same as the structure of the entire computer itself - just instead of RAM/ROM memory, peripheral I/O devices and the CPU, there are registers, status/control words and the ALU. Turtles all the way down...
@Videoswithsoarin
@Videoswithsoarin 7 жыл бұрын
Bon Bon very smart Ponus
@lancegaming4200
@lancegaming4200 8 жыл бұрын
Do you have Ram on the computer...
@thoughtyness
@thoughtyness 8 жыл бұрын
Yes he has 16 bytes or 0.0000000149gb of ram.
@taylorn2165
@taylorn2165 7 жыл бұрын
Thoughtyness but can it run crisis?
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's 16/10^9 = 0.000000016 GB (gigabytes) or 16*8/10^9 = 0.000000128 Gb (gigabits) or 16/2^30 ≈ 0,000000014901161 GiB (gibibytes).
@YouShantFindMe
@YouShantFindMe 4 жыл бұрын
what I think of for the bus is a computer bus is the same as a normal bus
@jorgerangel2390
@jorgerangel2390 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you explain how the bus works
@solegabe2139
@solegabe2139 4 жыл бұрын
Quality content... quite charming
@oman7811
@oman7811 7 жыл бұрын
these videos are awesome ben I'm having a lot of fun learning about how computers work on the small scale and I hope to order all the parts soon to follow along with the build process
@chrisc.2969
@chrisc.2969 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how organized is his work on the bread board
@baileymorgan9986
@baileymorgan9986 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else catch that overflow at 5:20? lolz
@MisterBadNews
@MisterBadNews 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Very good tutorial!
@BENCOINTERNATIONAL
@BENCOINTERNATIONAL 5 жыл бұрын
Final exam in 4 hours let’s goooo!
@JagroopSingh-er8ei
@JagroopSingh-er8ei 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I am your fan
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