I Want A Divorce! (Toyota Land Cruiser 7,500 Mile Review)

[@ae5646]

Why do I feel like I’ve seen this exact video like 15 times from you….

[@ericrjennings]

It’s all emissions. Not fuel economy. EPA is forcing these manufacturers hands with their requirements and incentives

[@chefron8]

This is something I don't understand. TFL has proven that the original first gen. Tundra V8 gets better mpg than the latest Tundra. I have seen other cases as well in which the older vehicles do better or at least close or even. Meanwhile, new vehicles are more complicated, less reliable, and cost more.

[@Tuishimi]

Yes. This. EPA needs to be neutered.

[@Land_Raver]

​@@chefron8Its to meet the standards of the test which are performed at 55 mph, not in real life.

[@ericrjennings]

@ it’s not about mpg though. It’s emissions. Hence the 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo in my Silverado that has more power than the 5.3 V8 but gets worse hwy mileage

[@magnoliap5824]

Toyota chose this, they didn’t have to go all turbocharged.

[@baracktrump1410]

In our 20 years of marriage, my wife has always and still commented on Toyota having the best engines out there, Toyota's reputation is based on the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Other carmakers haven't stood still in the last 30 to 40 years, also the Toyota engines known for quality have almost all been phased out in place of smaller turbocharged engines that do not hold the same durability of the old naturally aspirated engines.

[@WinifredMulvey]

After 2 lengthy test drives in a base LC, I have reached the conclusion that for an entry price of $60k Toyota should be ashamed by offering such a cheap poorly built/equipped piece crap... the LC Is a $45k vehicle with a $15k name plate... Poor interior quality, sub par tech, a buzzy unrefined power train, floaty ride, anemic engine performance and a battery pack placement that is a pure afterthought... the days of Toyota reliability , quality and longevity are over... welcome to the new Toy-Yugo....

[@Jack-pd4ps]

When I went to the dealership to get my car serviced, I decided to sit in one that was on the showroom floor. It had Manuel clothes seats, a 4 cylinder engine and costed $55,000. Too much money

[@JohnConnor636]

I rented a RAV4 and was shocked how cheap it felt.

[@Dano-MX5]

My sister always comes to me for car advice. She wanted to trade her 2020 Accord Touring on a small SUV. She asked about the RAV4, CRV and CX-5. I told her although the RAV4 is bulletproof it would feel the cheapest although it’s not as far as price. She thought my ‘22 CX-5 Felt small but luxurious. She bought a CRV Touring hybrid and loves it.

[@alexiz689]

@@Dano-MX5 Can't go wrong with the CRV. I've had mine since 2017 and it's been great. Zero issues with an 8 year old vehicle and still drives like new.

[@DEEZEEMTB]

I don’t think Toyota is being cheap regarding the hallow sound. It using lighter materials for weight savings. We have a 1991 truck and a 2002 Tacoma that I drive on a regular basis. The difference is the materials used….the 2002 has way more plastic and not built as solid as the 1991. Both have the V6 and get about 15MPG. The 1991 will only go 75mph and the 2002 will go much faster😊. Rented a 2024 and it has even more plastic, faster and gets better MPH. Trade off is it for sure feels “less solid” compared to my vehicles. The reality for all manufacturers is modern cars are no longer “overbuilt” to last.

[@joshknutson16]

I feel like Toyota really missed the mark on all the new iforce max stuff, all that battery and cost and only 1-3 mpg difference on all the stuff

[@DaciaProject]

We only get the 2.8 diesel where I am. 25 mpg.

[@DTC-LC250]

So maybe you can compare the First Edition Lc250 to the base model Grenadier Trialmaster, but I couldn’t afford $80k for either, so I went with the 1958 knowing I could lift it (2” spacers) add better rock rails (Greenlane), better roof rack (upTOP Kilo) better size and offset wheels (Icon Rebound 17”) and bigger tires , and all the Baja Designs from my previous `16 JKUR . The Toyota’s 8speed is way better than the 5 speed in the jeep- I replaced 2 valve bodies under warranty and decided to bail on it after 44k. This is my first Toyota ever and I’m loving most of it. Some of my minor complaints is the tank size, but there’s usually a gas station somewhere! And surprisingly the wheelbase is shorter than the Jeep, although the length is the same including the spare outside the jeep. I went with 33’s so the spare would fit in the factory location. But damn, it hangs low! It tows so much better than my Jeep as well, I can pass people now.

[@rebelsouljaz]

you would have been better off buying used instead of a new piece of shit.

[@George_USMC]

Love your 200 series Land Cruiser and Squoia. I know you review new vehicles, but would you consider making a video on used SUV’s that are more affordable but still reliable?

[@dreday010186]

You don't know why they went with cheap unpainted exterior plastics...? To fool buyers into paying top dollar for "reliability" while cutting corners every chance they can. And people like yourself fall for it and yet still promote Toyota.

[@bobby3944]

I'm a Toyota guy and have had almost ever model in the last 40ish years. Obviously I have liked Toyotas for their quality. I am concerned about the QDR of the current models mainly from the reviews that I see on line, not thru direct experience. I'm not in the market for anything at this time as my current Toyotas will last many more years, but when that time comes I likely will go Toyota again because the competition by comparison is also lacking in quality.

[@kubibear2890]

The Team in Japan who came up with the2024 Prado need to rethink the car. US don't like 4 cylinders, works in Europe only. Improve build quality for the price.

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

Doesnt work in EU either 🙁 Our 2.8 diesel is better engine but compared to our older 4.5l v8 diesel it is anemic as hell too. I barely ride my top-spec 150, I love my 200 way too much

[@Lowkey_Omi]

The cult of Toyota is not going to like this one.

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Good review Ben, No thanks on the 4-cylinder turbo.

[@car-diologist]

15 mpg's is no improvement over the V6's.

[@peterjohnlerum6580]

For a brand new hybrid SUV that’s bad. You’d expect more for $70K SUVs. My 3.5L V6 Highlander from 2015 is still getting 19 to 22, which says something about the new Toyota 4 cylinders and hybrid power trains in the new SUVs.

[@gazzyT644]

Honestly, our old LX 570 would get 14 in the city and 19 on highway, which is somehow better than this POS.

[@macneoh7418]

Bring back the V8!!

[@RonCox-f1r]

Or even the NA V6

[@JoseDiaz-qw7mg]

I'll divorce the Santa beard 😂

[@GODLOVESSAM]

Toyota is not what it used to be !!!!!!!!!!👎

[@tonyacoindreau9220]

I am so glad I stumbled onto your video. This vehicle has been one of the ones I’m considering. However I live in Texas and my driving distances are a lot so I want the maximum fuel between stops. Definitely a deal breaker for sure.

[@jacqueshurtubise38]

Why do you park your two trucks in your garage so close by drivers doors that you can't get in ?

[@markj10]

Good stuff Ben! Just traded my Grenadier in for LC250, and so far it fits my needs - comfort, quietness, power and large dealership network. Agree the BMW B58 is truly a pleasure to drive, but with the Grenadier breakdowns, the multiple towing to the dealers was breaking the bank (Ineos covers first 100mi, so towing 500+ is quite $$).

[@Molishious]

He’s the first I’ve hear say the Grenadier is nice to drive. My impression was that it’s a very off-road capable car that you had to work a bit to keep going in a straight line. I haven’t done a deep dive on it though. What did you think about how the Grenadier drove?

[@littlestinker9716]

I've been in the new Land Cruiser. It's worth about $20K less than what it costs. Toyota/Lexus aren't what they used to be. Perfect example is the Lexus RX 350 with a loud, buzzy, unrefined 4-cyl turbo that reminds me of driving a low-rent Corolla.

[@furiousfurby]

So, definitely keeping wifey’s 2018 4Runner TRD Pro. She wants a Capstone edition Sequoia but maybe I can convince her on a used 200 series LC.

[@erchep]

Not to mention that premium fuel is required 👎

[@frankkeel8410]

No sale for sure premium fuel at a dollar more per gallon

[@nevv8581]

Not being critical but the check engine lights were on in the Grenadier…..

[@YuenanCao]

We just rented a VW Touareg with a 4 banger turbo charged, it drove us crazy in city driving with its sudden acceleration and jerkiness. Just say NO to 4 banger turbos in SUVs!

[@Dano-MX5]

I think VWs have historically lurched at initial toe in. I drove a V6 Passat 25 years ago and hated it for that exact reason. Bought a 1 year old Lexus ES instead and loved it.

[@bluesfoxpix]

Hi Ben, early in this video you open and close the rear door. Seems to have a hollow/tinny nature to the door sound. Also observed this in person at a showroom for the new LC. Can you keep an ear and feel out for this when you look at the 2025 4Runner? It is one of the reasons we are leaning toward sticking with prior gen GX and 4Runner. General sentiment is more plastic and less sense of build quality on the 2025 but looking forward to your review and thoughts. Until then we will keep happily plugging away with the prior gen comforts. (Saw you cover this concern in the middle of the video - this is one of your best comparison videos to date. Thanks for the brutally honest content, it is lacking out there on KZbin! Keep up the great work.)

[@geeeee8268]

It's fairly easy to find a decent car or SUV for north of $80K. Below that you are basically screwed no matter what you buy. I just wonder how car manufacturers planning to stay in business when majority of car buyers can't afford anything that's more than $40K really.

[@v.t.4338]

Manufacturers have a ton of options under 40k.

[@Vintage-Vespa-Miami]

28.5 mpg / 24.5 mpg city on my 4K miles 1958 Land Cruiser

[@cranklesnacks]

the tiny 4 bangers overclocked with turbos is weak, soy tittty stuff born out of climate hysteria. they need to bring back the 8s. it’s a longevity issue too

[@charles17508]

Great video brother Ben .

[@mikemellon80]

Toyota has become Land Rover. Who would have thought.

[@marydrew3568]

I'm disappointed in the new LC with all the shiny cheap plastic and the hard plastic inside. I am keeping my perfectly beautiful and well running 5th gen 2011 Toyota 4 Runner with the bullet proof V6. I love all the soft touch interior materials and real heated leather seats. I owned a 1995 Land Cruiser and it was a great rig that when I sold it to my brother it had $300,000 miles on it and he put another 150,000 miles on it to trade in on a new FJ. I'm concerned that the new hybrid engines will be a pain to work on and not iron clad like their previous engines. I had ONE turbo engine before and it did not hold up. The tranny failed before 100,000 miles and I won't buy another turbo.

[@1lovesgreatness]

Should of gotten your wife the Sienna minivan instead of the Sequoia that's in the garage. The minivan has the automatic sliding doors. Way easier for loading and unloading.

[@DavidRC-m9w]

The smaller turbos are for early on torque delivery. Nothing sounds better than a b58 lol. The 8 speed in the land curser is a direct shift. That’s just the way it’s programmed

[@JBishop25]

You must get into ninja mode to get into your cars in the garage.

[@jeffreyfitch1006]

For a "smaller" land cruiser that's almost the same size as the last generation, probably should have an inline 6 cylinder engine like they used to get.

[@car-diologist]

Wow, Toyota is definitely disappointing us consumers today. I've always wanted a Tacoma and intended on buying a 2025 or 26, until the 2024 was released with no V6. I guess a Frontier is in my near future.

[@joshknutson16]

Frontier got horrible reliability scores tho, Toyota not doing well tho either

[@car-diologist]

@joshknutson16 You are right about the Frontier, unfortunately. We sadly just do not have a reliable truck on the market except for maybe the Honda Ridgeline. I'm definitely not a fan of that truck. Guess we are screwed, might as well just buy a Huffy today

[@phlamingoe790]

Except people have been bitching about the Tacoma and 4Runner’s lethargic V6 for the last 15 years. New engine is actually peppy in comparison.

[@Atl404sFinest]

Driving 6500 pound vehicles with turbo 4 cylinder engines is so beyond me.

[@christofonobrown3659]

I think that Toyota just isn’t handling the latest emissions as well. I would get a previous model when Toyota was crushing it. Your Sequoia is a great example. Also, it seems like the trans logic is purely to reduce cylinder pressure, not for power, not for smoothness. It can get awkward.

[@michaellevin8235]

I get 20 mpg on snow tires which includes a good amount of Colorado mountain driving. Just crossed 15k miles on the odometer.

[@nirfz]

First: i personally do not agree with the unpainted plastic parts on the outside: If they did it right, the plastic parts are that colour through and through, and so scratches and impacts from small rocks from the tyres are not causing paint chips or dots of a different colour. And then....As a european some of your remarks and some of the comments here in the comment section make me chuckle... When you describe the drivetrain as "abbrasive", or the interior and doors as cheap feeling: You guys did not get the previous 150 as far as i know. Here in europe the previous 150 was sold as "the Land Cruiser". We did not get the 200 or 300 Series LC. And said 150 had a 4cyl 2.8L Diesel for a long time now. And while it has adequate fuel economy and pulls adequatly for what it is, but it is loud, rough and shakes the whole car. (especially the gear lever. ->We got a manual one at work.) And said 2.8L Diesel 4cyl is the drivetrain we get with it's successor, the 250 here in europe. And yet with according options it (at lesat where i live) costs nearly as much as the Grenadier. (we have both engine options for the grenadier, but people usually choose the Inline 6 Diesel. More torque and more power than the 4cyl Toyota engine) In general i think most US customers do not realize that the 250 is not the successor of the 200 or 300 series LC but of the 150 (or prado as the ozzies call it). So US customers expect something different than it is, and wants to be i think.

[@justinmcroberts4633]

We got the Prado 150, but it was a Lexus GX460. Those were very solid SUVs, even compared to the new 250s.

[@mikecopros79]

230 miles if you are lucky? Holy shit... my 5th gen 4Runner with 3" of lift and 33" tires gets me 290 miles, and that's city driving, I get about 330 miles on long distances highway driving... that's absurd

[@CACressida]

For the extra 30 grand, the grenadier better feel better. The solid "thunk" noise comes from the butyl sound mat automakers slap on the back sides of large flat sheet metal panels. I'm pretty sure Toyota saved that for the GX to give it a more premiun sound over the cheaper LC. Youd think they'd give the first edition the Lexus touch under the surface for the extra money they charged for it. Theres a video idea for you. How to make the 250 feel more premium and record a video popoing off the door panels and layering sound deadening in the doors. Good video for revenue with all your subscribers.

[@mcwendel8066]

A Toyota Land Cruiser first edition is basically the same price as a Grenadier

[@Yoyomanmanholla]

The gx (and I am sure for the LC) has the cheapest feeling door. The metal around the glass literally bends with a few fingers pinching it and moving it around.. the metal is just like 1/8” thick

[@CACressida]

@@mcwendel8066 well considering you cant but a first edition LC brand new, its considered vaperware. Starting price is 58k base LC. Base grenadier is 75k. You're also getting quite a lot of heft for the money on the grenadier.

[@CACressida]

@@Yoyomanmanholla all cars use thin sheet metal. Thats why it's called a door skin. It's how you fold that metal to give it rigidity.

[@Yoyomanmanholla]

@ none of the vehicles I have demonstrated this thin, malleable metal frame around the glass. My 5th gen 4Runner felt solid and my grenadier’s construction is couple tiers above what the 250/gx felt like. On the gx. The b pillar portion of the front doors felt so bendy that I would never shut the door via pushing on that portion

[@Mr14041985]

Brah but you have the check engine light on with the grenadier😂

[@amazing0ne4life42]

Nah I think that the fuel

[@DanI-ls4dj]

Toyota used a b58 for the Supra. They should either just use b58 for their trucks, or should make a modern 2jz. If they’re taking the greatest v8’s of all time away from us, an in-line six is the only acceptable replacement.

[@silvergeoff568]

That didn’t work out well for Ram.

[@joshknutson16]

I think you need a sports car, so many huge SUV’s in your collection

[@Juan0481]

At 1:40, did you mean - 25 offset? It seems the tires protrude a bit. Just curious.

[@nlken7175]

Toyota is losing their way. Quality is so much lower theses days. Plastic fantastic.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

My complaints after 7300 miles in my 1958: Engine sounds really loud/bad and is way too loud inside the cabin even under light acceleration Jerky transmission experience esp coming to a stop. Impossible to drive smoothly Windows rattle over bumps when partially rolled down S-flow in climate control SUCKS and has to be turned off EVERY TIME I start the car Doors are hollow This is weird but the “new car smell” is actually weird and gross in this vehicle Things I like: Mine is stock and I get 21mpg Power and torque are excellent and WAY better than current 4runner Ride comfort is great Has its issues for sure and it’s very overpriced but everything is now I’d take this over my 23 4runner ANY DAY

[@LTX-Shep]

230 miles on a tank of gas is a deal breaker. No way.

[@Vintage-Vespa-Miami]

28.5 mpg/ 25 city ( my experience)

[@fjcruising7121]

Ben, maybe trade the new LC in for a new 4Runner and give us the scoop?

[@MrPhilipshrider]

What are the red lights turning on and off on the steering wheel?

[@nexthomegoodlife7056]

I think his content with personal experience of the vehicle is very helpful to would be buyers. I’m not buying the Land Cruiser after watching this. It seems ever since Covid and Biden inflation many things have gone down in quaility.

[@jattmoli]

Y the Ineos have a check engine light?

[@pablochacon40]

The eneos has a check engine lights on

[@atombomb6719]

I would focus on an older Lexus LX - the older vehicle would give me much more satisfaction than this 'latest & greatest' land cruiser 😮

[@linhunnicutt6556]

I would go after a two or three year-old Lexus GX over that land cruiser.

[@danhornstein5125]

What were the amber lights on the dash Ineos?

[@Hash2009]

That fuel range, c'mon. Non starter for me.

[@Ashoud_Anobetah]

On the bright side the land rover would have still been in the shop 😅

[@Big01021]

This should have been an FJ Cruiser continuation

[@KD-lb9bg]

The 2.4L turbo four and the exploding transmissions are why I’m going from a ‘16 4Runner to a ‘26 Honda Passport Trailsport with V6.

[@michaelefournier]

What trans issues?

[@roketfingers]

You're better off just keeping your 4runner

[@KD-lb9bg]

@ It’s staying in the family as my son’s first vehicle. I just need good AWD and a reliable V6 for myself, and Honda delivers that in spades.

[@KD-lb9bg]

@@michaelefournier Lol, just look up the new Tacoma regarding transmission problems.

[@michaelefournier]

@KD-lb9bg Lol! That's Tacoma only, and the actual affected units so far have been minimal. It was manufacturing debris, not an engineering problem. But hey, keep spreading your lies!

[@Raptorreellife]

No issue with my GX. Shifts fine.

[@ElCapitan12]

I hate those black wheels, looks like a winter tire pkg.

[@banderson1979]

Tired of your clickbait titles and thumbnails. UNSUB!

[@abazdarhon]

Bye bye

[@seadoo4life127]

Boo hoooo. Did you think he was getting a divorce? 🤦‍♂️

[@mcwendel8066]

😂😂😂

[@1lovesgreatness]

You'll like Scotty Kilmer, then...lol

[@LANDIIIIIOFIIIIIFIRE]

@@seadoo4life127lol

[@KenMcCune-wb3jp]

Grander is better suv than your 250series land cruiser I agree with you what you saying

[@Tony-pc3tb]

Here is the reason for all the plastic in New cars. January 6, 2022 Carbon Reduction Manufacturing plant with worker putting together a car The Environmental Protection Agency is finalizing new federal greenhouse gas or GHG emissions standards for passenger cars and light trucks for model years 2023 through 2026 - establishing a 55 miles per gallon corporate average fuel economy or CAFE target for model year 2026 vehicles.😅

[@noctilucent7396]

?? My 250 doesn't have any rattles, what year is this 250? I bet its a 2024, my 2025 feels solid.

[@VBmike2100]

How do you like the Tundra’s drivetrain? (Non-hybrid)

[@jamesdavidsmith4033]

Keep the Sequoia and the Grenadier and sell the others. There are too many cars.... 🎉

[@josephSF]

-High pitched pablum.

[@Jay-eg9ys]

Sup Ben!

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

Nah, what they should do is put the V8 from the IS500 in everything they build😝

[@toddgersh]

Word

[@smarticus6384]

I am already tired of all the 4-cylinder turbo crap. V6 is the least amount of cylinders I am willing to go on a pickup or SUV. That limits my selection, but so be it.

[@bonusb2924]

Wow, my ZL1 has better range and I’m getting 15.1 mpg

[@sylviawelsh9518]

Dude be realistic how many places can service a grenadeer 🤔 they are made in France come on man what have the French made that is worth a 💩

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

Is the Lexus GX550 built on the same platform?? They certainly look the same profile wise🤔

[@reddevil6585]

Yes but gx had 6 cylinder turbo

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

@@reddevil6585 They still charging over MSRP where I live and you can't even get one.

[@andresgarciaespinosa7697]

stunning 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@SME5724]

I love mine … I’ll take yours too

[@mikewright2858]

Toyota has abandoned everything that made a Toyota a Toyota. They always took heat from many clueless non-enthusiast reviewers who ran reviews such as "Honda Pilot vs. 4Runner ... Which is the best for families?" The tech was never as cutting edge, but "quality" comes in many forms and many of us appreciated a level of relative simplicity, older but tried-and-true bulletproof designs, and for the most part, sensible design decisions. I don't understand the industry's obsession with these 4-cylinder turbo hybrids, that in many cases don't even get better mileage and if they do, it is usually marginal. 2 or 3 mpg is not worth it IMO for a far-less reliable powertrain that on top of everything drives worse, sounds worse, and also need 500= pounds of stupid batteries that take up cargo space 9or fuel tank space). No 4-cylinder turbo hybrid is EVER going to be as reliable as my 2021 4 Runner TRD-Pro's 1GR-FE 4.0 engine with its 5-speed transmission. There are many more moving parts, more stress on components with the turbo - even a lot more stress on drivetrain components with the torque of the electric motor. My 4R isn't fancy, but it's solid. This is my second 4Runner and my first one, even after 60,000 miles had no rattles, and the soft-tex seats still looked new, and even where there was hard plastic, it looked new as well. The door close sounds solid. The vehicle just feels solid, all around. I love the exterior looks of the LC/GX550 ... I think it's hot! I can do without the giant screen - if I'm what amounts to a big-screen TV in the space the size of a vehicle cabin, at least do something cool and innovative with it. Nope. Just the same old crap - falling back (like most companies) to just Android Auto or Car Play, both of which won't even let me run the apps I want to. Toyota seems to have hired a bunch of MBAs and joined the "Pay more for less" trend that is sweeping the industry. Let these things rot on the dealer lots.

[@TAP1999]

Hope the couple therapy goes well!

[@BuceriasJoe]

Thanks for the honest review Ben, I was so close to ordering a new Land Cruiser , just cancelled it! Thanks for saving me a headache

[@josephSF]

If you make important decisions in your life based upon this guys opinion, I feel sorry for you. Beta cuck.

[@Wingdings08]

Toyotas quality is going to sh**

[@josephkane4364]

Am I supposed to be impressed by this product? Lame.

[@dad2817]

Hey ben , some homeless guy has hijacked your channel

[@ranran2218]

Land crusher is trash

[@JM-fk5hh]

LC made for customers that don't have the money for high end SUV's. All manufacturers are going with cheaper materials, if money isn't a problem, then buy high end.

[@EDCMECH]

The GX550 solves the power issue

[@adamsmanuellopez]

My transmission shifts smooth

[@anijp9275]

Its ugly overpriced way overpriced cheaply made plastic all over fan boys love this junk nothing to what it used to be

[@nikilandjackaroochannel4572]

first

[@sylviawelsh9518]

They have help for you 😵‍💫🥹😂