I love how this method takes the pressure off the composer to create a new melody. The music already exists, it just needs to be understood and contextualised.
@punksterbass7 жыл бұрын
"I'm just not that happy" #relatable
@fleshman4joe7 жыл бұрын
same hahahaha *sobs*
@arthurmee6 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@PaulDavids7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@BenLevin7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I really like your song in pi!
@happypuppy-i4k6 жыл бұрын
Paul Davids Mundane, Moonlight sonata, and a begining idea. Aka...boring. Moonlight sonata is not boring but this aping is because it represents a starting point. Why did he not finish the piece? I will assume the reason. BORING!!!!!!
@happypuppy-i4k6 жыл бұрын
gooby pls you think these two individuals are geniuses? Hahahaha!!!!! Thankyou for the laugh!!!! You do not listen to classical or you are very, very casual with using genius as a compliment!!!!!
@ShortMan_123 Жыл бұрын
@@happypuppy-i4kexcuse me?..
@GuyNamedSean7 жыл бұрын
The end result to me feels like I’m finding my way out of a dense storm on the seas. I’m not safe yet, but I can see the sunlight beginning to peak out.
@ajadrew7 жыл бұрын
You've explained it so effectively with your end result sounding gorgeous...
@Oweng400007 жыл бұрын
You’re like music bob Ross
@marhobane30404 жыл бұрын
In the body of a very tired Frank Zappa.
@savourymilkman81472 жыл бұрын
A Jewish frank zappa
@epiczeven63787 жыл бұрын
Wow... That was amazing. Inspiring video, you turned a weird ass melody to a beautiful piece.
@zachgalsky7 жыл бұрын
Imagine going in for a colonoscopy only to have the honor of Dr. Ben Levin showing up
@JPPWB7 жыл бұрын
Wha- er... no, no thank you.
@yonisemel69337 жыл бұрын
#relatablw
@MawcDrums7 жыл бұрын
And he introduces himself as "Fake Dr. Levin" and lets you know that it's Wanky Wednesday.
@BenLevin7 жыл бұрын
We can make that happen!
@tjprosper77043 жыл бұрын
@@BenLevin Legend
@Anatolat6 жыл бұрын
I used to use exactly these techniques in my compositions. Some weird things to try in addition: -use functional harmony for your chord progression. The contrast between atonal melody and tonal harmony can be so unexpected -use the 12-tone row as a bass line, and explore different chord qualities. The odd root motion can have surprising effects - for added limitation, take two 12-tone rows (maybe one is a retrograde, inversion, or retrograde inversion of the other - avoid strict transposition, though). Put one as melody, and the other as root motion. Try to find some chord qualities that work
@matcoddy60976 жыл бұрын
also Imitation, etc.,
@JimDooley7 жыл бұрын
Damnit. I'm trying to get some work done, but I can't pass this video up. Any melody? really? I have to watch.
@cameodamaneo6 жыл бұрын
What was your conclusion from this video?
@jasonsteves7346 жыл бұрын
+1
@fryingwiththeantidote24866 жыл бұрын
you weak fuck, you would’ve known this already if u payed attention while u were in shoenberg class at primary school. dickweed.
@fryingwiththeantidote24866 жыл бұрын
I didnt watch this video btw, cus i took notes in shoenberg class, i just sensed some dumb shit from this corner of the internet.
@thecactus79506 жыл бұрын
@@fryingwiththeantidote2486 Schoenberg class in primary school?
@Nyuu37 жыл бұрын
Whoa. I wasn't even that sceptical in the first place, but the finished product was still FAR above my expectations.
@EclecticSceptic4 жыл бұрын
Yeah same, turned out really well. Could be a song in its own right.
@noveltyaccount114 жыл бұрын
whenever i am working with a melody that frustrates me, i revisit this video. cannot express how much this has helped me.
@FernieCanto6 жыл бұрын
You can take a 12 tone row and make it "beautiful" through tonality. Or you can see the 12 tone row as beautiful for what it is.
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 Can you justify your statement?
@wolzly16 жыл бұрын
Can you discredit it?
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 Sort of. I think a 12-tone-row can indeed be a beauty of its own, since even a sequence of notes or some intervals can create emotion. And if something is emotional, it can be considered beautiful, scary, sad - you name it. Beauty has nothing to do with the complexity and/or origin of a piece. Sure, a c#-minor impromptú can be beautiful, just as beautiful as Ligeti's Lux Aeterna - or Arvo Pärt's Credo? The point I am trying to make here is that judging modern compositional techniques to be "hipster bullshit" is just as stupid as calling classical pieces outdated and old-fashioned. A proper musician should altercate each and every style and genre of music and - even if he dislikes it - at the very least appreciate the effort and the intention of the composer. My opinion.
@wolzly16 жыл бұрын
I said post-modernist for a reason, not hipster. And I didn't say bullshit though you can stretch my use of language into more inflammatory regions if that helps you make your argument (I don't think it does). You are making my argument while you try to oppose it: "at the very least appreciate the effort and the intention of the composer". I do. 12 randomly chosen (or nature-inspired, or whatever) tones does not constitute intent.
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 I did not quote you, but bring up a general opinion that seems to refuse anything post-classical or consider it unintentional and what not. And according to your comment you also represent that opinion - correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know though why a twelve tone row should be unintentional. For one, the notes are arranged according to strict rules. And other than that, there are certainly reasons why composers pick certain notes over others. Sure, some chose to pick them randomly, but try to get a twelve tone row to actually sound melodic and *beautiful*! It actually takes a lot of effort, understanding and intention. So there's that...
@gejugfeguug56237 жыл бұрын
For someone like me who was really against using atonal concepts such as 12 tone rows in music, this really opened my mind to the possibilities. I always thought 12 tone rows sounded bad because all of the atonal music i have checked out so far have been jarringly dissonant and basically unlistenable for me. This actually sounds tonal in the context of the chords that you chose, but more importantly it sounds really beautiful. I was skeptical that this would turn out good but im glad that you proved me wrong. Keep up the great work ben.
@ggauche34657 жыл бұрын
A listen to some late Stravinsky will cure that. e.g. Variations for Orchestra or Movements for Piano and Orchestra
@gejugfeguug56237 жыл бұрын
Graeme Gerrard thanks for the recommendations. Stravinsky is amazing.
@ggauche34657 жыл бұрын
Neo-classicism or serialism, he is an amazing composer and orchestrator.
@gejugfeguug56237 жыл бұрын
Graeme Gerrard i checked out those 2 pieces u recommended just now and yeah its not for me. Just sounded like insolent noise. I do love stravinsky though. The firebird is one of my favorite songs ever.
@ggauche34657 жыл бұрын
I would have described Mozart's 40th in the same way when I first heard it! I have listened to these and other late Stravinsky pieces a lot over the past 50 years. To me they are breathtaking. We're all different.
@boarderking1337 жыл бұрын
That better be on the the next bent knee record. That was beautiful.
@AimeeNolte7 жыл бұрын
What a great idea and so well-executed! Maybe someday we can take your crusty music ears and pair them with my ginormous ones and make a 24 tone row with microtones. 🤔😝
@BenLevin7 жыл бұрын
I'd be down to work with you anytime, Aimee!
@juanchis.investigadorsonoro6 жыл бұрын
@@BenLevin Aimee is everywhere. I'd love to mix whatever you work on. Since I have no music skill I sit on the other side of the desk. :)
@ThatViolaKid6 жыл бұрын
That would be so funnnnn
@jonathantruesdale17074 жыл бұрын
How many micro tones are there in a whole step?
@johnhetherton90054 жыл бұрын
@@jonathantruesdale1707 four, if you mean quartertones. like, there are two per semitone
@normantepeltu7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best composition tools I've ever had explained. Can't wait to try it out!
@quizbrennan19396 жыл бұрын
Dude people like you are what brings music alive.
@armadaparade25037 жыл бұрын
This is the best education on harmony I think I've ever received. Thank you Ben.
@BenLevin7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
@ABCD278147 жыл бұрын
Possibly one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard in my life. Genius. Ben you are incredible. Thank you.
@paullim18434 жыл бұрын
Wow that constellation was truely a thing of beauty
@notyetskeletal48096 жыл бұрын
I wrote the notes on paper, pu them in a ball, shook the ball, picked them out of a ball at random, stuck them to a page and made it work. It was a fun create your own jig saw puzzle. You decide what the picture looks like. I felt like once it was done I needed to turn it into a sprawling epic song so I wrote the chords down and spent my Sunday doing other things instead.
@nuxapower4 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old but suddenly i wanted to harmonize a twelve tone row and this helped me out a lot! Thank you ben
@TheJimmyp4277 жыл бұрын
That last chord hits so hard
@attuneu5 ай бұрын
My current favourite video on music ever. Thankyou
@AlanNess7 жыл бұрын
This is inspiring for a music noob like me to hopefully create some magic in music in the future
@jonathanbain27222 жыл бұрын
Why ya gotta be so brilliant my guy? Thanks for sharing the good stuff doc
@exeromusic2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this epic demonstration
@arceom077 жыл бұрын
this thing sounds like my homeboy Debussy
@creatief_met_kaas7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing :O
@MisterDoctorBaconman7 жыл бұрын
The techniques and methods he played with were in a similar vein, just not quite as abrasive as a 12tr (for the most part)
@matcoddy60976 жыл бұрын
I've always found Debussy's music hard to follow when analyzing it, etc., but pleasant to listen to.
@beng26175 жыл бұрын
uhh not really?
@seanmolloy92974 жыл бұрын
A Debussy fern, sitting beside a dark Satie.
@jobiy19997 жыл бұрын
I watched a video interview of Jacob Collier recently. In it he theorizes that the harmony of chords can be anything as long as each note has good motion. This video reminded me of that video :)
@ASclassical Жыл бұрын
This is the beauty of music, you went from having nothing to something unique and wonderful. And a very good practice to gain confidence and ability composing! Thanks
@rzk_audio5 жыл бұрын
God damn. You made strides in rpoving your thepry here. I didn't care for the original row on its own - but with the chords, it's absolutely beautiful
@IsothermeMusic6 жыл бұрын
Ben, that B #11 chord is gorgeous. Nice movement.
@scottkunghadrengsen26043 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. For years I have been looking for a harmonic practice similar to my melodic one(Raga de Jour)where I make up a scale based on the intervals that feel best to me that day. I love how the melody here is a given and the harmony is given the weight of expressing the spontaneous inner landscape, thanks..
@daisyrushton15747 жыл бұрын
bloody hell that sounds incredible!
@namanh85476 жыл бұрын
It sounds so beautiful .
@adrian5b6 жыл бұрын
The result was mesmerizing… I love you, Ben.
@freudsbreakfast40603 жыл бұрын
This is phenomenally creative. Very satisfying and obscurely enlightening
@ericgill50694 жыл бұрын
Ben, having recently discovered you via Samurai, I have been obsessively watching your videos and I just want to tell you that your ideas for practicing and writting music are the most intresting, useful, creative and inspiring thar I have ever seen/heard. I am a trained musician, and studied at Berklee, and in my opinion, your exercises aren't simply out of the box, they kick the box across the room and then smash it to oblivion. I want to thank you for sharing your incredle outlook and methods with the world.
@lordapophis935 жыл бұрын
Ben, I love your videos because I feel like I relate to your personality and I love it that. Makes it easier for me to put myself out there too.
@ideitbawxproductions18802 жыл бұрын
I could never figure out how to get a 12-tone row to sound like anything other than chaos... this has definitely opened my eyes to the possibilities
@jungxophr90146 жыл бұрын
EVERY video I watch from you gets me to write a new song with an inspiring new perspective. You're a true muse, thank you. This piece is absolutely beautiful!
@brandobin5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say you are hands down the best music educator I've found on the entirety of the internet. Every video knocks up my muse with new ideas thanks Ben!
@japas6 жыл бұрын
Your logic (as well as with the rhytmic indian singing thingy) has really expanded the way I compose. Thank you thank you thank you!!
@bundr6 жыл бұрын
The title didn't lie!! That was AWESOME!! Subscribed!!
@neveratrivers6 жыл бұрын
Very good!! Simple and beautiful.
@TheNormalUniverse Жыл бұрын
I loved the constellation metaphor
@brandonmains89586 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so sick! Love the clash of art with music you do.
@JamesJones-zt2yx6 жыл бұрын
How neat. It's a tone row, but not the sound I'd always associated with them. The way you used what in math they'd call a locally tonal neighborhood in the tone row is seriously cool!
@pedroalvesvalentim76527 жыл бұрын
This is really a thing! Many people think music is bound to the rules of music theory when, in fact, the theory comes AFTER the music to define and patternize similarities. Art is far beyond those tiny concepts.
@elistewart86655 жыл бұрын
wow this is just beautiful
@dclarkmusic7 жыл бұрын
You ought to make this a full track! Gorgeous.
@sunloveone5 жыл бұрын
Amazing... the end result was unexpectedly beautiful sounding!
@calebneff57776 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that was one of the most moving pieces of music I’ve ever heard.
@halysonvieira5 жыл бұрын
Dude, wow. 1:26 to 7:03 is just... magic. Thanks for this.
@nookers7 жыл бұрын
You make me happy, Ben. Just the words you use.
@nschul410 ай бұрын
Beautiful results at the end
@davidsimpson25606 жыл бұрын
That was hauntingly beautiful.
@christopherspoelstra10967 жыл бұрын
The way you create music is absolutely inspiring!
@RohannvanRensburg7 жыл бұрын
I've seen like two of your videos and I auto-hit like on this one as soon as I opened it. You've provided me with more creative inspiration in ~15 mins than many channels have in months.
@jacktraveller82907 жыл бұрын
this is perfect for something I'm writing that's a bit atonal that I've been stuck with the harmony for. Thanks Ben!
@raydolfmitler70495 жыл бұрын
Very, very cool lesson
@opuitska6 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, mind blowing
@crumb57567 жыл бұрын
I need to get onto this level of music theory. Wow, absolutely beautiful. I think Ben must have some good taste to boot
@aidanburke83167 жыл бұрын
beautiful, like a walk through a magic forest
@cshirle36 жыл бұрын
1) Adam Neely sent me. 2) I love your Nickelodeon-style graphics. 3) Thanks for the beautiful music.
@ajibanezharvey3 жыл бұрын
I love this video and I use the same technique in some compositions of my own, I was really excited to see you do it this way as well. I also like the Ron jarzombec 3, 4 note diminished chords idea too, he has a great video on this well. It sounds awesome in Blotted Science!!
@instrumentenfreak7 жыл бұрын
I just love lydian chords
@zachgalsky7 жыл бұрын
Very true
@cstubbssubs77466 жыл бұрын
how do ya play that
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
The most modern sounding voicing in my opinion. Beautiful!
@vmdp87905 жыл бұрын
instrumentenfreak Thelonius monk
@mikeleffler60512 жыл бұрын
Super inspiring! I bet one could determine "a key" that this piece is in. Probably could be interpreted to be in various keys. Part of me likes the freedom of not needing to define it to a key. Another part of me thinks it could be useful for certain purposes, like for remembering the piece and playing it again. Maybe also for connecting with each chord in the key which could support general musicality.
@vidsantoro7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you gave this away for free. Salute
@yothatswacks7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. This is beautiful.
@brunocatapluft4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the metaphor of the constellation!!!
@Bills_Place7 жыл бұрын
Stop reading my mind, Ben. A singer I work with recently gave me a vocal melody and asked me to come up with the chords to fit. I sent him a mostly major version, a dark minor one, and a jazz one that got way out there for the third option. Of course, we went with #4 which is totally different at a faster tempo, because there is no "wrong" when it's your own music. Great vid, and a stellar example that shows even the weirdest melody can find a home.
@frooshante7 жыл бұрын
wonderfully done, Mr. Levin. i think i speak for a great lot of us when i say we'd enjoy a piece that develops this melody even further! with real strings!
@martinjstephens6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! As you point out at the start, the rhythm is also super helpful as it adds a tonne of expression.
@bloodknightbob6 жыл бұрын
Really thought provoking! Thanks man!
@callummoodley63116 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@dorianclini6 жыл бұрын
The cat with the sideburns at 1:57 just killed me
@yamashitacoversbyjulianroel Жыл бұрын
I wrote a song using this technique and it sounds completely different to all the other stuff I ever wrote. Thanks, Ben!
@SamChaneyProductions6 жыл бұрын
I've been really digging into non-functional and pseudo-functional harmony recently and trying to figure out how to force myself to create a composition that employed it, and lo! This is the perfect exercise to release me from my functional harmony cage!
@pattocetamol6 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. Really inspired me to try this out. Great choice of chords
@Setri1237 жыл бұрын
this is plain beauty
@jaredmeit61277 жыл бұрын
Love it. I'll be trying this tonight.
@BloomBat3 жыл бұрын
Very cool ! I'm gonna try that, thanks =)
@sammiller98557 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, bro! I love it when chromatic melodies sound as beautiful as diatonic ones, which is what you have done.
@meatymatmart7 жыл бұрын
The exact type of inspiration I needed today. This channel has helped me for so long, thanks!
@najeesimmons66484 жыл бұрын
Great exercise!
@SherKhan-ku9oq7 жыл бұрын
This is such ridiculously high quality and original content Ben.
@Batvolt6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! This was one of the most interesting videos I 've ever seen. You explained it easy to understand and I want to write a tone row boat that will chug down some paddle wheel world I've never heard before.
@henriquecastilho99417 жыл бұрын
you are awesome, Ben
@salvadorroibon5 жыл бұрын
AMAZING! Thanks a lot man! Regards from Argentina
@davegoldsmith1737 жыл бұрын
This is what I needed to get out of this rut. Thank you sir
@BenLevin7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Keep going!
@DanZaiOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@michalbotor6 жыл бұрын
(1:26) i don't know why, but this reminds me of the soundtrack of 'the game', 1997 movie, which had this cool feeling of tension and mystery to it.
@thecosmicartist30604 жыл бұрын
this is a really cool video. very insightful to music theory
@themuffinman7516 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was awesome. Great stuff!
@blackgemstone8016 жыл бұрын
Dude, you care! I haven't seen such passion in a while, great vid
@CAYENNEOREZ6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! What a great explanation and a beautiful chord progression.
@jeremyy227 жыл бұрын
I love your lessons, and have been watching them for years now. I like this approach, but I would like to see how you would approach the same tone row, but with the strict rules of serialism being used for the harmonies too. Amazing lesson as always! Great inspiration!