Hit-Air and Held eVest pro now reviewed on BikeSocial. The Alpinestars Tech-Air 5 isn't in this video as I didn't have one available to me when I was shooting it. However, it IS in the written review that this video is a part of. That will also be kept updated as other systems get reviewed. Also, the Furygan and Ixon airbags here use the same bladders as those that are in RST, Klim, Held and others. www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-armour-and-base-layers/best-motorcycle-airbag-vest-jacket
@__Max-oe6zm2 ай бұрын
I was hoping to see the Alpinestars Tech Air 7X reviewed, which has been out for a while now, it's not in the video or the article. Apart from that great info and presentation. Will be interesting to see how this technology develops in the next couple of years. Also, can airbag manufacturers please stop plastering AIRBAG or other advertising type writing all over the outside. I'm not being paid to advertise your product and it looks awful, in my opinion. Just stop it, nobody wants to ride around like a mobile billboard.
@miguelalonso66242 ай бұрын
Thanks will wait for hit-air too.
@tfdodo2 ай бұрын
do Hit-Air have a UK distributor yet ? ALSO, especially as UK sellers are still in short supply (SBS I'm looking at you :D ) ,how does sizing come up for the Motoairbag range ?
@volvogt212 ай бұрын
Tech air 5 has great shoulder coverage which most lack. 2 operations and a year later my shoulder is still stuffed. I've no doubt the tech air 5 would have saved it
@colinm13252 ай бұрын
That was Fantastic, Thank You. Kindest Regards.
@garethmayfield40142 ай бұрын
I tested my dianesse airbag jacket high siding my bike. It was a big crash. The airbag covered my front. No damage. My spine was heavily protected. No damage. My side was unprotected. 8 broken ribs and a smash scapula. Punctured lung. It saved my life.
@903lew2 ай бұрын
@@garethmayfield4014 Good that you made it out but ouch!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Ow! I'm glad you're able to tell us about it though! Cheers, John
@garethmayfield40142 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks mate. The electronics got confused. Only doing 50mph. Snapped the power shut throwing me onto the bars. As I held on for grim death, the throttle was wound right back. Went off up the road like a bucking bronco. My mate reckons it got to 70-80mph before spitting me off. Airbag definitely saved me. You need the full protection right around you. Dianesse jacket worked perfectly. The other thing I learnt is textile riding kit is only good to 70 mph. My kit was destroyed, but I only had friction burns. Keep your kit receipts. 50% reduction on your insurance claim if you don’t have them.
@gabrielo89222 ай бұрын
😮
@Bristecom2 ай бұрын
I wish more airbags would cover the sides/ribs. The ones that do seem to have flaws though (like being way too bulky to be comfortable).
@MadChalet2 ай бұрын
You and your channel (and other Brit channels) put US bike journalism on YT to shame. The effort you put into the research and production shows how seriously your country takes motorcycling. Here, we can't even get dedicated parking spaces in most cities. Keep up the solid work! 👍
@grtbgf2 ай бұрын
US bike journalism consists of reviews where people ridefrom stop light to stop light, and sometimes sport bikes on track.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Sadly I think that paid reviews and affiliate payments are too tempting for too many people. Plus I'm lucky that I get paid whatever people choose!
@oscarorozco1502 ай бұрын
I was JUST thinking the same thing!! Totally true. Subscribed
@TeunSegers2 ай бұрын
Honestly even the critical ones, like F9, say some absolutely asinine things about safety gear. Ryan can ride a bike off road way better than most, but he needs STFU when he says you can take out your crash pads because they don't seem to work. He keeps proving he doesn't get it and doesn't consults medical professionals.
@dmelson7502Ай бұрын
Apparently you all are not watching Ian at Big Rock Moto. He does good testing and reviews of bikes and gear. I highly recommend it.
@Solderpro_12 ай бұрын
This is the GOLDEN video of motorcycle airbags. I was in a motorcycle accident and my Helite Turtle 2 saved my neck and back and chest from any damage. Saved a very expensive hospital bill and surgery.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks, and really glad you were wearing the airbag! Cheers, John
@connor32882 ай бұрын
Did you have the corded version or electronic one?
@babar691105 күн бұрын
me too, corded helite version in .... 2009 !!!
@packmanbpКүн бұрын
Hey this is what I ride with! Good to know it works and even better to know it workED as intended !
@cangaroojack2 ай бұрын
Clicked on this video for an everyday review of some airbags and got swindled into a lecture about the mechanics of life changing injuries on bodyparts we usually don't protect enough, and i'm all for it
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
I was worried it got a bit morbid, but I wanted people to get as much info as possible, so they can decide. Cheers, John
@cangaroojack2 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial And you did an amazing job man, 36 min and i wasn't bored for 1 of it
@HaggisPower2 ай бұрын
Likewise, thanks John
@charlesbarnett2724Ай бұрын
@@cangaroojackdito👍
@Andy-ft6yg2 ай бұрын
I was losing the will to live at the start of the video however I am glad I watched it to the end, a fantastic comprehensive unbiased view so thank you, I will be hunting one down at the NEC on Saturday. If you have saved one life your video was worth it so well done, you should be applauded.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! I just want as many people to be informed as possible, rather than influenced. Cheers, John
@IONONOI-NZL2 ай бұрын
I can certainly vouch for all the injury stuff as I am a poster child for the effects of hyperextension. 25 years ago I had car pull out on me and lost my right arm (Traumatic Brachial Plexus injury), permanently lost my right lung (phenic nerve injury) put my broken ribs through my lungs, broke my back (transverse process fractures), put my teeth through my lips and even ended up with Horner's syndrome (face/eye nerve damage). Just the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm highly functional (have pain meds to help) and I'm lucky enough to have an ordinary life (ordinary is underrated and unappreciated). I kept the right arm for 5 years just in case there was any chance of a recovery but there was no change, so I decided to amputate with an above elbow amputation. What saved me apart from good luck? My Arai RX-7 helmet (no brain damage - I've been tested), my fitness (I was a regular gym goer beforehand and in hospital I had tachycardia (resting heart rate was around 120bpm) and went from 84kg to 67kg in three weeks), two nurses following in a car (for a roadside tracheostomy). What did I learn? Somethings are out of your control so relax, go with the flow, and celebrate the little victories (whether that was standing up in hospital, walking a lap around the ward, having my own shower, removal of feeding tube (they fed me through the nose as the helmet strap crushed my windpipe) and even wiping my bum). At no point did I think that riding a motorcycle was not risky, and that this could've (and did) happen to me. Anyway, I'll be getting the helite system as I still ride a MT-09 SP and an Africa Twin DCT that's modified (of course) for left arm only. My advice to you is to buy the best helmet you can afford as I was next to the head trauma ward in rehab and what those patients/medical staff/families deal with is awful and made my orthopedic injuries a walk in the park.
@fj54342 ай бұрын
I'm really sorry you had to go through that, it's one of my greatest fears. Just for info, except for your helmet, what gear were you wearing?
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
So sorry to hear that! All the very best, John
@pgVeritas2 ай бұрын
What a terrible event in your life. I am glad you are still positive and able to enjoy the thrill and fun of motorcycling. Back in the late 1970s, I was lucky enough to be part of a team of British Pro-Skaters who competed in California against their pros. At one of the skateparks, "the Big O" in Anaheim, Orange County I met an inspirational guy. He had one leg. He was a US Motocross champion and lost his leg saving his family when their house went on fire. At the time, he couldn't get back on a bike, but he took up skateboarding. With the aid of some crutches (just for starting and stopping) he could still ride the 5m vertical pools and pipes at the Big O. You put me in mind of him. There are some who will lie down and let life kick them, and others who tell it to F@ck Off! That's not knocking those who let it win, just that the mind is far mightier than the body. Well done!
@IONONOI-NZL2 ай бұрын
@@fj5434 Spidi leather jacket, Dianese gloves, Alphinestar boots. I was wearing ordinary jeans but apart from the helmet my gear was in pretty good shape. But they were destroyed by the medical team as they just cut the stuff off to get to you faster when you arrive in the ED. I think the jacket had a back protector, but it was pretty lightweight. I had decent gear, but they type of accident really made most of my gear moot. The helmet was the thing that made the difference, I couldn't imagine trying to rationalize what was happening with a head/brain injury.
@IONONOI-NZL2 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial No worries. I'm super happy that you delved into the injuries as far as you did. Your work will help many by hopefully getting more people using airbags (I think they're a great safety device) but even if they don't, they know the consequences. If the worst thing happens they know that they made an informed decision.
@quefreemind56982 ай бұрын
As an EMT/firefighter, this is very usual to help understanding of what injuries to look for and the suspected severity of different injuries.
@DeSousm2 ай бұрын
I genuinely believe that Bennetts is the best Motorcycling KZbin channel when it comes to real consumer advice and motorcycling information. Since I started riding in June I have found so many videos incredibly helpful even looking way back in the catalogue. I might not be able to get insured with Bennetts competitively but the £6 a month is well worth it for the social membership.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thank you SO much! Please do join the Facebook group too if you fancy it facebook.com/groups/bikesocial Cheers, John
@carlosalonso98662 ай бұрын
I wear an In&Motion airbag. Two summers ago while riding in Corsica I hit some gravel midcorner, lost control of the bike, ended on the gravel strip next to the tarmac, hit with the front wheel a sand heap which had been left next to the road after some past road works. As the bike came to an abrupt stop, I was thrown over the handlebars and came down on my back after that salto. I had only just lift off that I heard and felt the airbag deploying. I didn’t have a single bruise, only scratches on my vest. I exchanged the cannister and I was good to go again albeit very shaken and shakey. A friend of mine was hit by a car coming on the motorway from the accelaration lane, he didn’t check his mirrors, it was a bad accident, the motorbike was completely destroyed and again the airbag prevented worse things. Another thing, I have fallen from my bike while coming to a stand because there was some fuel on the wet road and I momentarily lost my footing but on that occassion the airbag didn’t go off, so it seems to be a very clever algorithm that relies on the accelaration forces. Excellent presentation, again!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, and really glad to hear you were both okay. Hopefully you'll never need them again, but glad you have them! Cheers, John
@KinobiPellizzari2 ай бұрын
Intreesting Carlo, me and another lady had, on the other hand, a defective In&Motion airbag once we needed. Our bladders immediately deflated due to a 3 mm diameter hole. Kinf of what you see at minute 29.
@Ohno0es2 ай бұрын
I think the In&Motion only deploys on speeds above either 30 or 50kph. Forgot which
@KinobiPellizzari2 ай бұрын
@@Ohno0esno, my exploded at circa 18 kmh according to the GPS of the dash camera, which is very precise.
@Niko-qs1sl2 ай бұрын
@@Ohno0es You're thinking of Track Algorithm. The Road Algo will deploy from standstill
@TheOnceAndFutureDoug2 ай бұрын
Bennetts isn't in the US so best I can do as a means of thanks is upvote and leave a comment to help engagement. Thanks for the amazing content!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! All that matters to me is that people have access to honest information. Cheers, John
@user-jm8ky1kn2t2 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Really wish you could test the US airbags and gear
@Mojoissimo2 ай бұрын
By far the best video I have seen on airbags to date - nice one! - DOI: TT Airmed etc. doctor; have attended >100 airbag-deployed crashes.
@ayserides2 ай бұрын
These videos are honestly such a service to the moto community. Thank you!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
@forkyRS62 ай бұрын
Objective and unbiased. Hugely informative. Excellent.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Cheers, John
@mac220119642 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more….what an excellent piece of work….outstanding and a must watch. What is interesting is that I am a so called “advanced rider” and a blood biker in Cornwall with crap road conditions for much of the year….none of the BB team wear an air bag as far as I am aware….even though some of us own the Turtle 2 (we were given them). Makes absolutely no sense….and a story I have heard on many occasions. Whilst cost may be an issue….many of those citing this are sitting on a bike with a £700 end can! So, something else needs to be overcome…are you not a real biker if you wear one???
@jaumegarcia4 күн бұрын
Just crashed yesterday, got an helite eturtle 2. I came out of the accident with only slight pain in my wrist and a very swollen ankle (the bike fell on my foot), but nothing broken. The vest inflates and makes you stiff for a minute. If you are hesitating between buying one or not, buy it now without thinking about it.
@bennettsbikesocial3 күн бұрын
Glad you're okay!
@marklee26722 ай бұрын
Hi John. Thanks for a very informative review. I'll be 65 in March 2025 and as most older riders will confirm, as we age we don't bend like we used to. I'd never given any consideration to road going air bag systems but your article has really opened my eyes. I plan to do a lot of touring in 2025 so I'll be buying a system early in the new year. Best wishes to you and all your viewers, keep safe and have fun folks.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, and all the best to you too! Cheers, John
@luk92as4 күн бұрын
Nice video, i bought the Motoairbag v3 about 3 years ago when my daughter was born, because i used my bike for work doing almost 20k km a year, and wanted to be more protected, a bit heave and warm especially in summer, but very protective, and i can tell you that as last year a car tried a u turn while i was overtaking going around 50/60km/h and it hit me in the side of the bike and i flew around 25/30mt from the car, i broke my foot even with boots, but no other injury, the airbag did it’s job. It lacerated the air sack on the asphalt so it would cost me around 350€ to repair, and now i’m looking in for the V4 :)
@bennettsbikesocial3 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear about the crash, but really glad you're okay!
@TreeTrunkCrabWhacka2 ай бұрын
Haven't watched this yet but I'm thankful y'all are coving this. I've been extremely skeptical of the almost lock-step endorsement of airbags in the same week with the release of a certain Dainese product. Also been distinctly disappointed with F9's fairly thin critique of the established armor standards. I'm a non-UK viewer who greatly benefits from your work and I hope it remains sustainable for the future.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Please do let me know if the video's helpful when you get a chance to watch it. Cheers, John
@4940markhutchins2 ай бұрын
Agree on Ryan F9s review. It was biased, reasoning didn’t make sense and factually wrong in some places. This review was awesome!
@903lew2 ай бұрын
John, never stop being you. I mean it, you’re doing great work here. Between your work and GeekTest Bennetts should be very very pleased with how their brand is represented. Morbid? My man, safety is about preventing the accidents we try to avoid. Morbid would be the attitude I see amongst those in all risk sports who pretend what we do isn’t dangerous. This is just great consumer advice. Chapeau. By the by: I’m quite vain and was very happy when the Alpinestars TechAir3 Canvas came out. But it’s been available in the US for half a year and still no European release? Any reason for this?
@TeslasSecret2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, John is unique. Fabulous work. I was tempted by the TechAir 3 but have read quite a few troubling stories about it (airbag not activating, firing for no reason etc…).
@nigelboyd16012 ай бұрын
I have the canvas tech air 3 and rode east to west coast in the USA over the summer with it over a riding jacket in brutal temperatures and it was flawless, battery life is honestly amazing, 8000 miles and I charged it 4 times. Outside of a helmet it’s the best safety investment I have ever made for biking and I can’t see myself ever riding without one again
@marcuspotts72212 ай бұрын
Brilliant bit of motorcycle journalism👏
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks SO much! Yeah, I only found the canvas one while researching this and it looks great! Maybe it'll appear in the UK and Europe if we're lucky. The Tech-Air 3 did have an issue with false deployment but it was most likely due to that long delay before disarming. Mine hasn't fired accidentally since the firmware update, and I've really tried! Cheers, John
@TeslasSecret2 ай бұрын
@ Great to hear. I loved my TechAir5 but it wasn’t convenient enough for me.
@justcommenting49812 ай бұрын
MotorAirBag is very impressive. I look forward to reading your write up. I have an anecdotal experience wearing the Alpinestars Techair Offroad. Collision at 15-27mph(wasn't watching the speedometer on impact and I experienced some time dilation so I can't be sure). It was an impact with someone turning across my lane. I was launched off the bike, into and over the hood, then onto my butt(which actually really hurt). My torso was completely undamaged from the impact. No broken ribs, no bruises. I had a finger fracture and a back injury from landing, along with various soft tissue injuries in my legs from getting cartwheeled. I'm inclined to think the airbag protected my chest and probably would have protected my back if I landed on it. I think the armor probably kept me from getting elbow and shoulder damage(I can see where it discolored scraping across the car). Likely aided in keeping my chest totally unharmed too. I like that the MotorAirbag almost seems to girdle you. Because I wondered if I had been wearing a weight belt if that would have protected my back. Hard to say, maybe it was better to let it flex. I like the design though, and the locking tether seems like a good compromise between the speed of electronically activated inflation and mechanical certainty. I'll also say recharge cost doesn' matter much to me. If I can walk awak from another crash like that I'm taking the hint and hanging it up, at least on the street.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Really sorry to hear this, but it does seem a real demonstration of how riding kit can significantly reduce injuries. All the very best, John
@camberwellcarrot420Ай бұрын
Totally worth the time to watch. This is BY FAR, the best information on motorcycle airbags I've ever encountered. Everyone who rides needs to watch this. I hope you'll update as warranted. I really appreciate the effort and expense which went into this.
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
Thanks so much! Yep - will be keeping it updated, especially the written article. Cheers, John
@edwards0matic2 ай бұрын
Thank godness for people like you John, you are doing the lords work.
@JC-vc7tf2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I've been looking at picking up an airbag for a long time now but I've found them so hard to compare on my own so I never pulled the trigger on one. I'm feeling a lot more confident in my purchase now, thank you!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks great, thanks! All the best, John
@Richard-vj3vs2 ай бұрын
Honestrly, this video should be mandatory when getting a motorcycle license, the quality of information is superb.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thank so much! Cheers, John
@fuglbird2 ай бұрын
It was not long, complicated or morbid. It was interesting and useful. I appreciate all the hard work you had put into it. It showed. Thank you.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, that's really good of you to say! Cheers, John
@Wooders12902 ай бұрын
You don’t realise how long I been waiting for this John, massive thanks and appreciation for your hard work and detail you’ve clearly put into your research. I’ve read all the marketing spiels from all manufacturers but nothing comes close to the unbiased informative demonstration you put on show, which in turn will allow me to make the right choice. Hats off to to you 👏👏👏
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Really glad it helped as this was a big one, and I was worried about how it would work. Cheers, John
@Juuul89Ай бұрын
This video is pure information gold John. It could literally save lives. I'm nearly recovered from an accident in march where I was rear ended at a red light where my body totaled the car that hit me ;), I did not have a back protector or airbag so I am fully aware I was inifinitely lucky to not have spinal damage. Definitely won't make that mistake again!
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
So glad to hear you were okay. This is a perfect example of the real world being so unpredictable. All the best, John
@Ken.ch4522 ай бұрын
Your passion and dedication to motorcycling is exceptional.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much - that's really kind! Cheers, John
@praveensaxena64782 ай бұрын
I was in a horrific accident where i got t- boned, was wearing helite turtle e airbag, escaped with a few rib fractures and wrist fracture. I am a trained spine surgeon and deal with plenty road vehicle accident patients, neck and pelvic injuries in addition to chest are probably major critical injuries. I have found helite turtle 2 giving best coverage of these areas. Its designed to be worn over a jacket so chest protection is covered there. Was very easy to recharge, just replaced my cartridge. The review was great but did not emphasize much on pelvic protection . Patients who survive and have pelvic fractures have lots of challenges in life.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
The Helite doesn't reach down to the pelvis - those connecting side tubes sit just beneath my ribs
@praveensaxena64782 ай бұрын
Hope you got the correct size. It usually does protect
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Yes, size is right - it sits the same on the company's website too. This seems your best bet www.alpinestars.com/products/tech-air-10-airbag-system
@Angel_EU342 ай бұрын
Really glad to read that Praveen! I also own an eTurtle and I'm terrified of being T-boned one day, to me it's the worst crash you can have on a motorbike (save, perhaps, going down the mountain after flying over a guardrail!). Happy to see it does seem to protect you fairly well. So glad you came out ok from the crash.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Just to be clear for anyone else reading this exchange, the E-Turtle 2 and Turtle 2 do not protect the Pelvis. They also wouldn't be likely to deploy in a T-bone incident before the damage was done (as would likely be the case with most systems).
@dibbledobbledodaday2 ай бұрын
Hi John. Fantastic video as ever. The amount of research you have clearly done is evident. One question; airbags aside, if chest protection is so important as stated by the paramedic, why do so few motorcycle jackets (aside from the really expensive ones) have chest protectors or indeed the ability to add one?
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
It's becoming more common, though passive protectors can't do anything much against deflection, so an airbag really is the best bet. Cheers, John
@ourBrainF00D20 күн бұрын
Wow. Wowowow. This is such a well-made, researched, and informative video. I’ve never subscribed off one video. But I have now. Great work!!!🎉
@bennettsbikesocial20 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@herbycarlos67942 ай бұрын
I must add that the helo evac gentleman mentioned not encountering any crashes with airbag use, possibly because they are safer riders or older. But perhaps another reason is any incidents with a rider using an airbag did not require a helo evac because they did what they are designed for.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
You're right, but I do think that was partly what he was trying to say. Believe it or not, for such an awesome guy who's dealt with so much, he was nervous in front of the camera! Cheers, John
@thebigoaktree840123 күн бұрын
Absolutely essential information. My kit has to be greatly revamped. Ironically I am comforted by all of the work you and the team has made available to me. Thanks from Buffalo, NY!
@bennettsbikesocial23 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@jamespower74792 ай бұрын
Wow me and the wife travel around Europe on our Gs and have been using the cheap Chinese air bags because of the lack of coverage for tall riders , I tested mine after buying it Airbag para moto Fuangiv 2020 part 1 Airbag para moto Fuangiv 2020 part 2 Airbag para moto Fuangiv 2020 part 3 '' Then '' I thought it performed well but now I believe the Motoairbag MAB v4 Airbag Vest looks a better bet . Thanks for the video👍
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I'm afraid that, in my experience at least, those 'cheap' Chinese airbags are useless. All the best, John
@Coffee_and_pipes10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this thorough discussion and for including information from medical experts. Because I live in the U.S., Bennetts isn’t available to purchase, but I’m happy to like, subscribe, and point others your way. Thanks again!
@bennettsbikesocial10 күн бұрын
It's great to have you here! All the best, John
@johnm66832 ай бұрын
About as thorough as it gets. Thank you. I had one of the first Tech Air 5 airbags to come to market and had a false deployment when in motion which was so unpleasant it put me off wearing them altogether. After a year or so with only passive protection I gave it another chance and have to say the algorithms have evolved to the point I’m sometimes surprised it doesn’t accidentally deploy in really bumpy conditions. I believe you have to ask yourself, if I’m launched off my bike for whatever reason in the worst circumstances, what do I want to be wearing. I’d rather be wearing an airbag than not. One small point I’d make is that I’m not sure the anvil test on a bare airbag is entirely accurate. I am sure an airbag under a leather jacket will behave somewhat differently in terms of air displacement and impact dissipation, etc. My current model is the Rev’It airbag. You get Alpinestars R&D and all the data they have accumulated together with Rev’it quality and customer service.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
I agree - I prefer to have one all the time now, and the algorithms have definitely improved. Yes, it's possible that some outer garments could affect the results, though we'd need to do more testing, and then there'd still be a lot of variables. Good point though. Cheers, John
@olegna199816 күн бұрын
Hats off to you for your profound in-depth analysis and informative and detailed presentation. I have the Helite leather vest and I wear it all the time.
@bennettsbikesocial16 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@bikersquest2 ай бұрын
I've always wondered why so many jackets excluded chest armour or even pockets, I made it a priority for all my jackets. I have a Helite too but bit disappointed about the chest protection but do like the fact it protects hips as well
@erocnw134110 күн бұрын
Thiis is the most informative presentation I've seen on the current state of air bags. I'm ready to start shopping for one.
@bennettsbikesocial10 күн бұрын
Thanks very much - glad it helped! Keep an eye on the written article as it's constantly updated. Cheers, John
@aidan65572 ай бұрын
Keep making videos like this man, absolutely love the time and effort put into it aswell as the presentation. Also I love the chapter transitions. Think they're cool 👍🏽
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@matthewharvey36662 ай бұрын
John your videos and the insights they bring are the best motorcycle related consumer info out there. Thank you for all the effort, it really shows! And Helen’s pillion insights are very much included in this too!!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! All the very best, John (and Helen!)
@MeerkatADV2 ай бұрын
Been wearing a Tech-Air offroad for right about a year now. Having the passive protection for minor off-road falls is great, and knowing I have the airbag if I have a big one, or get hit on the road.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Cheers! A review of the Tech-Air off-road is coming to the written article soon. John
@christiancostantini1019Ай бұрын
Terrific review. I am not a fan of electronic airbags so I went for the mechanical one. I bought my MotoAirbag V4 when it was on sale last spring (saving 15%) and I could not be more satisfied. I used it in the summer here in Italy in +30C weather just wearing a thermal layer underneath and I was actually fine, for the reason that it is partly mesh and partly solid due to the airbag section. The fact that it can also be used without sleeves is a plus, so one will be able to use it on winter jackets as well.
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
That's great to hear, thanks! Hope you never need to deploy it! All the best, John
@christiancostantini1019Ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Cheers John, let's all ride safely, greetings from Italy
@volfactory2 ай бұрын
fantastic initiative for the biking community. Thank you.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@James-xn8xe2 ай бұрын
I needed a video like this! I daily commute and have been looking into airbag vests. You're not trying to sell me anything you're just giving me the info I need as a rider, I appreciate that!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much - really hope it helped. Cheers, John
@RussRyan77132 ай бұрын
I brought my Helite E Moov backpack just about a year ago now. At the time the only back pack option available. I wear it every ride without fail with in full backpack mode or just as the airbag. No deployments needed so far. I find it comfortable and can wear it over anything. After watching this I am probably going to add a chest protector to my kit. Hopefully I'll never need it. Agree with the air ambulance guy. The people who can afford them and think about them are more mature and most likely safer riders anyway. I will get mine serviced when it's needed. Will expect a great deal more models will be out in the next 3 years when I think about replacing it. Great video. Really interesting. Thank you.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully you'll never need it, but great that you have one just in case. Cheers, John
@lolcatmaroonАй бұрын
As soon as I became a Dad, I bought a Tech Air 5. It deployed once on a very low speed drop (brake checked and my non ABS brake skills are poorly honed these days). The bladder actually burst from this single deploy, yet its rated for 3. I complained under consumer rights rather than warranty and managed to be able to pay for the cost of a refill only rather than a new bladder as it's not much off a whole new jacket then! Alpinestars have my money, and my one piece now has to be A*s, but they have the right data volumes and users to tweak their algorithms correctly (I work in Data science/ AI and this is a HUGE often overlooked factor). I also like that they use Argon instead of CO2 which means it inflates faster. I have an old snowboard back injury (degen disc and buldging discs) and a reconstructed shoulder ACJ from wakeboarding so I've always worn Forcefield CE2 jackets underneath my leathers, but an airbag is much much more comfortable! The only downside is you cant really wash them, and in summer it can be hot and sweaty... A friend died at Donnington Park recently by being hit from behind by another rider and I always wonder if an airbag would have meant a different outcome... maybe not at those speeds, and each crash if different but having one thats allowed on track (some dont allow tethered) is a risk Id really encourage noone takes. Especially not when there are so many nutters on the roads and on stolen or crashed bikes at track days who ride like theyve nothing to loose... other riders still have plenty.
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
Really sorry to hear all this! Glad you got the bladder cost covered, but that is very disappointing. All the very best, John
@Kaaregorn2 ай бұрын
Regarding mechanical vs. electronic debate - I am senior software developer/IT integrator working in RF comms with 14+ years experience. There is near zero chance you'd convince me to go with electronic airbag (I went with Helite Turtle tethered system).
@CyberGasty2 ай бұрын
I used Helite GP with tether and passed to Helite electronic. I have each year at least a couple of falls on the track. Both worked well, tethered before, and the electronic now. Electronic worked well in four falls since July 2023, first one was at 160km/h low side, the second one was I was rear ended on full lean at 70km/h, in both cases I did a couple of 360° turns before falling first time to ground (grass) and second time to gravel. In this year I fell twice in rain, once at 100 km/h low side, and second time at 60 km/h. All falls were with new electronic system. It protected me well. I must reiterate that I carry back protector in addition to airbag jacket.
@Kaaregorn2 ай бұрын
@@CyberGasty The issue I have is when you use electronic airbags on the street. Even manufacturers themselves admit that since they also use GPS for detecting crashes, they cannot guarantee activation inside tunnels, parking garages etc. plus if speed is lower than X amount (in&motion, Helite without fork sensor), they will not activate. This is obviously not an issue when going flat out on a racetrack but in stop-go traffic it is. There are regular posts on Reddit of electronic airbags not activating (Alpinestars is quite common) and then add the fact that you need to keep an eye on the state of charge of the battery for the airbag... At the end of the day inside every electronic airbag there is software that reads GPS, gyro, accelerometer data and decided if its gonna activate or not. No software is 100% reliable. But no matter if its electronic or mechanical - any airbag is better than none. I also wear motorcycle jacket with full passive armor under my airbag and since I use Helite as well I am happy to hear it has saved you from injuries.
@tHaH4x0r2 ай бұрын
As an engineer I wholly agree with you. Simple is reliable, less to go wrong. KISS. Never mind the faff of having to charge batteries all the time!
@Kaaregorn2 ай бұрын
@@CyberGasty The main issue is that electronic airbags also use GPS for detecting crashes. If you look at In&Motion's owner manual for example they do not guarantee activation if you're driving in tunnels or parking garages. Also when you're stationary, going really slow or for the first 10 s of driving, the electronic airbags will not activate (exceptions, as far as I know, are Helite WITH added fork sensor, Alpinestars new off-road airbag). This is obviously not an issue on the track since you're never stationary or going slow but in stop&go traffic it is. At the end of the day electronic airbags are basically software that constantly reads GPS, accelerometer and gyro data is deciding if you're crashing or not. As someone who spends unhealthy amount of time writing and fixing code I can guarantee you that there is no such thing as 100% foolproof software. Mechanical tether is simple and it works 100% of the time unless its damaged or not being used as it should (user sets the tether too long for example). But no matter if you use electronic or mechanical - any airbag is better than no airbag. I have a airbag and I still wear my motorcycle jacket with full armor under it without any discomfort. As a Helite user am I happy that it kept you free of any major injury and I hope it will continue to do so in the future.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
They don't all rely on GPS, and the tech is constantly improving
@colinwilson34842 ай бұрын
Brilliant!! I’ve ridden with a Helite airbag for the last 8 years or so and I don’t go anywhere without it. But perhaps it’s time to change - the V4 looks to give much better protection methinks. Thanks again for all you do to keep us informed - really appreciate it!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. The Helite has some real benefits, but I do think the MotoAirBag has moved things on a great deal. Cheers, John
@Jimb0b11112 ай бұрын
Now this is how reviews should be done. Getting tired of the youtube shill channels marketing crap chinese so called safety products and not giving a damn if they are safety rated or not. The number of heated glove videos being recommended this week is ridiculous. Apparently saying "they look good to me" is all anyone needs to know when it comes to the safety of these products.. Laughable and it's time the ASA stepped up and put a stop to them.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks, and I totally agree. Though it doesn't seem the ASA can do much. Cheers, John
@diyeveryday672 ай бұрын
I returned to riding at 48 and my A-stars TechAir 5 was one of my first purchases. Two years later, I will not ride without it. I charge it after each ride when I arrive home. I chose the Tech-Air 5 for the built in back protector, collar bone protection, & rib protection. The TechAir5 is like a little safety blanket!
@paulbain92622 ай бұрын
Good work John,a lot to take in.i bet you were the kid at school that everyone copied their homework off.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Ha! No. I was just (even more) annoying as a kid, always asking "why" and always taking stuff apart. Which I guess worked out okay in the end. Cheers, John
@paulbain92622 ай бұрын
@bennettsbikesocial it payed off in the end,your blessed to have a job that's a passion and able to cram all that info into in to your videos.
@davidz82 ай бұрын
I read your written report on Bike social when you first published it a few weeks ago and was so impressed with the level of detail, the video just adds another amazing dimension, this video will save lives. I bought a tethered Helite H-moov rucksack airbag last week, not anywhere near as much protection as the M4, but I new I would wear it every time I ride, I couldn't say that about the M4. I just hope that Helite come out with a similar tether system as it looks amazing. Thank you John for so much effort, you deserve a raise, then you can buy the 1300 GS. 😀
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Ha, I don't think that'll happen, but luckily I still love my 1250. The most important thing is that you have something you're comfortable in and will wear. All the best, John
@brisbaneswords85632 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I did personal research into airbags a couple of months ago here in Australia. I mostly commute so slow speed deployment was a big question.i also have gear and didn't want to spend $ on new jackets to fit an air bag. I was mostly disappointed about the options available and the costs involved. I couldn't get any assurance about effectiveness for slow speed. In fact the sellers are rather cagey about giving clear info. Tech air 5 isn't available here and the Aust distributor won't warranty it if obtained overseas. The Dainese just doesn't cover enough and only the old model available, and the refit cost here is madness. I decided on the helite turtle as best available here. But I can get no communication response from helite at all! I really like the look of the MAB M1. It ticks all my boxes. I'm just waiting to see if I can get it here in Australia.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
It'd be worth contacting MotoAirBag via it's website as I just checked and it looks like shipping to Australia is free. Cheers, John
@brisbaneswords85632 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial yes sent them an email right after watching your vid! :)
@brisbaneswords85632 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial where did you see free shipping? The response from MAB indicated 50euro shipping All up including our GST tax, it would be near $1500 Aust
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
@@brisbaneswords8563 I was entering Australia into the MotoAirBag website. Maybe the tax agreements with Australia are different to the UK and something changes further into the checkout process. It'd be worth checking with MotoAirBag by contacting them direct though.
@katastrofuli2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I'm using an airbag for over 8 years. I startet with the Helite Turtle and since 4 years I've got the Gimoto V-Race 3.0 RR (mechanic).
@nigelboyd16012 ай бұрын
I cannot recommend an airbag enough, personally I now treat my airbag like my helmet and won’t ride without it.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
I agree... Even short trips I pop mine on now. Cheers, John
@Adam_84827 күн бұрын
Incredible dedication to motorcycle safety, thank you so much John for your excellent journalism, unbiased and honest evaluation of everything motorcycle related. Also thanks to Bennetts for enabling John to do what you do, such a valuable service for us bikers. I have a Helite Turtle 2, although I am guilty of not always wearing it - time to up my game and start wearing it on every ride. If I end up wearing it all the time, I might even upgrade to the motoV4, looks an incredible bit of kit.
@bennettsbikesocial27 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! Yep, it's best to get in the habit if you can. All the best, John
@NoTengoIlusiones20 күн бұрын
As an hang glider pilot, I've the honor to meet the founder of Helite and flown with its son. Gerard Thevenot was a French competition pilot, engineer revolutionary to the sport. I've two La Moeutte wings , so my life was in Gerard hands . Helite brand was branded after it's last revolutionary glider design, the helite. Rigid carbon hang glider. Cheers ride/fly safe.
Thank you for this video. I can't begin to imagine how much research must have gone into this. I will be looking to buy a motoairbag for next year. Out of interest, an article on first aid kits would be brilliant I think it's really important we all carry one on our bikes. Things like bleed dressings, tourniquet and vent aids are a must for me. It would be great if you could explore this even if it saves just one life!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Good call - I'll have a look at that, thanks! All the best, John
@Tornciti4 күн бұрын
I just want to add I've had an accident recently where I totaled and bent the frame of my bike(just to show the forces) and I fell on my back. I had motorcycle jacket on with level 2 spine protector and on top of that a turtle 2 airbag system with a built in extra passive protector. I walked away without a scratch, no broken bones to bruising on my back nothing. Maybe without airbag I would have also avoided injuries, maybe not. I am just glad I wore the protection I've got. Stay safe boys, and remember you can always buy new gear and a new bike but not a spine.
@bennettsbikesocial4 күн бұрын
Glad you're okay! Sorry about the crash!
@apox53082 ай бұрын
I tested an alpine stars tech air 10 with the hip airbag. Slide the bike going 20mph round a corner and landed my left hip on a drain that was at a pointed angle. Went to A&E with a bruise on my hip and the doctor said the airbag prevented a hip fracture.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Glad you're okay! Cheers, John
@XtremeCoke2 ай бұрын
I bought alpinestar techair race on track and deployed once for a 80mph crash at Donington Park and walked away without bruises. Absolutely worth every penny as saving a potential hospital tripe(dispite the bill). Latet i bought a techair offroad for my ADV riding. It is now able to replace catridge yourself even on the side of the road(very unlikely). My experience shows that having an airbag compares to traditional protective armors is almost as significant as riding with/without gear. If you are a keen rider, please love yourself and dont put a pricetag on your life.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, and really glad you were okay! Cheers, John
@MrVespapx12 ай бұрын
Well done test!I did my research before buying my airbag as well and I came to the conclusion that Motoairbag was the best for me. Sure it's bulky and a bit heavy but has no compromises in terms of safety. I love the fact that you can upgrade your V2 to a v3 and a V3 to a v4 for a fee, so you have always the latest model without spending a lot of money.
@bigbritishbikers25432 ай бұрын
Great Video, as always! I am currently on my second Helite Turtle 2. The first one was ruined during an accident. I accidentally flipped the bike, landing head and shoulder first before sliding a little. My beloved Speed Triple was a write-off, as was my air vest. But I had no injuries. Well, maybe a fractured collarbone, but I didn't find out about that until about a year later. But new Helmet, Jacket, Trousers, Gloves, Cardo Air vest, and Bike. I love being out on the bike and going away with friends, but having a young family means I must buy the best....safety gear. Thank you for these videos, they really are a fantastic watch!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
So glad you're okay! No airbag is likely to save a collarbone sadly, as it's usually broken by an outstretched arm. Or if you're unlucky you get a torn rotator cuff instead (yeah, that was me). Cheers, John
@babyfknblu2 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocialwhy is it that i hear about them saving collarbones from highsides on the motogp broadcast? are those different
@mark-lj5dc2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the vast amount of effort that went into making this video - thanks
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching it! Cheers, John
@davecarrera2 ай бұрын
Could I add that being trained to ride safely is a factor also. I know this will not stop all accidents, but if you can avoid some by the way you ride and perceive the traffic on the roads, then that can only help reduce accidents. This is something I am working on and looking into.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Absolutely - It's why I said about BikeSafe being so worthwhile. Cheers, John
@gerardshort5312 ай бұрын
God bless you for this and all your videos. Clear simple English language and the vital topic makes this video great but your own delivery is what makes the difference. Stay well my friend and keep riding.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, and you too! Cheers, John
@MacShrikeАй бұрын
Wow! Now this is a proper test review video.
@dishcleaner227 күн бұрын
You're saving lives with this. Just ordered the M1 from Italy
@bennettsbikesocial27 күн бұрын
Thanks! Hope you never need to use it properly, but a good choice I reckon. All the best, John
@tiku14 күн бұрын
Thinking of ordering one soon. How is it sizing wise? Would greatly appreciate sharing your measurement stats and how it fits.
@bennettsbikesocial14 күн бұрын
@@tiku I'd say they're all as expected. I'm 5'10", 44" chest, 34" waist and the sizing was correct to my usual.
@ontheroadadventure2 ай бұрын
What a fantastic informative video, Airbags is something that have had our interest for a long time now, that motobag v4 is looking like a good balance of simplicity and ease of use and affordability
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! All the best, John
@stevecotterill79812 ай бұрын
I currently don't ride... and motorcycle kit has moved on tremendously... but I thoroughly enjoyed this factual (no bs) video. Thank you very interesting. 😊
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! If you do decide to ride, please feel free to ask any questions! Cheers, John
@engineer_cat25 күн бұрын
Great video! I've been wearing a Helite Turtle 2 for the past year or so. When it comes time to replace it I'll definitely check back to see what the latest recommendation is in the article!
@FairWeatherBiker25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the time and effort with providing such a detailed and considerate review. That said, I have got myself the Helite H-moov mechanical backpack airbag. A great functional option. As was mentioned in the review, I was not aware of the testing standards Helite perform to. That would have likely changed my purchase decision.
@bennettsbikesocial25 күн бұрын
Great that you have an airbag you'll use. All the best, John
@BlueSharkCryptoАй бұрын
Now this is the best of KZbin, top quality extremely valuable content, thank you! 🙏
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best for the new year, John
@garktnieus2 ай бұрын
I have been a huge proponent for airbags since I started riding and I absolutely love this video and I learned a lot more especially with the two different methods of testing! I know you can't test all the airbags but I do find it a shame you didn't mention the airbags range from Rst. They make some great jackets with build in airbags from in&motion and for a competitive price. I feel that because the airbag is build in to the jacket it's less likely to be forgotten, also it's less cumbersome.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Actually, I did - the RSTs use the same In&Motion bladders as Furygan, Ixon, Held, Klim etc... cheers, John
@adaycj2 ай бұрын
I appreciate what you've done here. This is a monumental amount of work. As to which standard is "best", that can only be the standards that have published testing procedures and results.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Cheers, John
@tharangabasnayake2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video. It wasn't morbid at all, in my opinion. You were talking about protection from severe injury, not their colour schemes. 😊
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! All the best, John
@TeunSegers2 ай бұрын
I'm on my second Helite now (wore out the first one) Had several fairly light crashes, always walked away. Didn't always ride away. Are they the best? No clue, but they worked 100% for me so far.
@gingerelvis2 ай бұрын
Great indepth and unbiased video as always. I think we need to start seeing more jackets with airbags built in. Any additional faff and bulk with any form of protection (motorcycle or otherwise) as humans we often get lazy and don't bother, the "it's only up the road" syndrome kicks in. I'm bad enough for not being arsed to wrestle on my one piece rain oversuit and getting annoyed with the added bulk and restriction of it. I really do see the benefits of these airbag systems but I know the remembering to charge it, teather/unteather it and wadlling around like Bibendum would be frustrating 😂
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, and as demand increases I'm sure we'll see more and more developments. Cheers, John
@charlesbarnett2724Ай бұрын
Fascinating. It's certainly got me thinking about something I hadn't really concidered. Thank you for this video. It may save lives.👍
@StinkyYamaLinky2 ай бұрын
I put off getting an airbag for my 2024 riding season which just ended (winter). Part of it was cost and availability and laziness. Each ride, even though I'm CE2 head to toe, had that small part of me thinking "do I want to ride now or after the air bag vest is purchased." I felt like tempting fate. Was/am leaning toward a Helite e-Turtle. Thank you for the absolute best objective info I've ever seen!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. It should simply be down to personal choice, and do make sure you find the right balance for you of comfort, convenience and coverage. Cheers, John
@GilesLevy2 ай бұрын
Great video - i read the article about a month ago and got the MotoAirbag v4. I wanted the head/neck stabilization, the tether gadget for quicker deployment, user replaceable cartridges (bought an extra set), and (less importantly) the removable sleeves. Thanks for all the work - I had been looking for many months before I found your article.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
That's great to hear, thank you! All the best, John
@olegs49162 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to keeping us safe!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@smith53852 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you. I can't afford an airbag vest but after watching this, I will be putting my chest protector on every time I leave the house (on the bike, obviously).
@thebrowns53372 ай бұрын
Dan - the Advanced paramedic, at around 19 minutes in, talking about vertebrae around getting more fragile the higher up the spine they are is why I got my airbag jacket - to give me an instant neck brace should the worst happen. Another thing I always look at, with this in mind, is helmet weight. Yes, it's got to be strong and preferably aero and quiet but remember a heavy helmet will put a lot more strain on your neck in an accident. If you're confident your airbag will stop your head moving too far or too violently then you worry less about weight but don't pooh pooh it like some people do. Your neck acts as a level in terms of forces so reducing the weight at the end of that level (i.e. the helmet) is important. A lighter lid might stay on better to vs a heavy one (assuming the same straps).
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Head injuries are more common and tend to be more critical, so it's finding that balance I guess
@knuckles-33862 ай бұрын
Maybe we should start using the HANS device like all race car drivers this has saved many lives in the world of Motorsport it does have its limitations however in limiting the ability to turn your head
@jag1970s2 ай бұрын
Great - really pleased to have seen this. Was actually thinking of investigating an airbag at the NEC this weekend, but now I feel a lot clearer about what I’m looking for
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Let me know what you go for. Cheers, John
@adrianfaherty51392 ай бұрын
Have Rst leathers with inamotion air bag. A lot of TT riders used it this year. Glad to see it did its job !!
@petervisi53692 ай бұрын
Thank you for the hard work, the time and effort you put into making unbiased informative contents about everything you do. This one, came just in time as I was considering options. You make it easier to have a well informed decision for all of us.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks! That's all I'm hoping for. Cheers, John
@johnpbonnett19 күн бұрын
Very interesting video. Never realised there were so many different types of safty ratings. I use RST Adventure In&motion
@andulasis6283Ай бұрын
Superb video and summary of airbag vests! Thank you so much for your effort! You just made it safer out there for many riders
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@michaelnishiguchi31762 ай бұрын
I've had the Helite Hmoov backpack since January. It doesn't have the most coverage but I always ride with a backpack and that makes me wear it all the time. I had a lowside where it went off but I was only on my elbows and the backpack wasn't damaged at all. I repacked it up with a new canister and it hasn't gone off since then.
@05gt9917 күн бұрын
Great work John. I am going to look into an airbag. I currently use a Knox urbane pro mk2 with the chest protector and Knox jacket over that.
@bennettsbikesocial17 күн бұрын
Thanks! Personally, I'd go for a MotoAirBag M1, as in summer that'll work nicely over the Knox.
@05gt9916 күн бұрын
@ thanks John
@itvinasi2 ай бұрын
Amazing video. A lot of work and passion went into this one. Thank you for all your research!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! This was a bit of a beast! Cheers, John
@SuperchargedLlama2 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I think you've done your best to educate and show the differences.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@jarlevikshaland20152 ай бұрын
I wish you had the Helite GP Air in here. This has a hard shell front and rear and becomes a massove chest and back protector. It also locks the helmet as the inflateable cushion extends up to the lower rim of the helmet - the strap becomes really really tight. I use mine on track and on the road and have had three ontrack crashes with it the last three years. The hardest one I locked the front going into a corner on the brakes and hit the tarmac at 70-80 mph. My first contact point was my right shoulder, which took some damage, and I then barrelrolled down the track. I have also witnessef a friend hitting the graveltrap at high speed an rolled, his black helmet was scrubbed white all round, but not damage to head or neck. The two other crashes was a lowsider at about 50 mph, and a 3/4 summersault in the gravel trap at about 20 mph landing on my back (similar to jumping out of a 2 floor window landing on your back). Highly recommended and tested in real life. And it is designed to handle high speed slides on the tarmac.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
It's in the written review that this video links to - I couldn't get everything in. Great feedback too - glad you're okay! Cheers, John
@jarlevikshaland20152 ай бұрын
PS: I see it is mentioned in the article.
@ApexRadius2 ай бұрын
I have a tethered Hit-Air MLV2 that meets 1621-4 and has a back protector over the air bladders. It also has a provision to add a chest protector. It has very robust neck protection and seems to have a bit better chest/rib protection than the Helite models but not as good as the MotoAirbag ones. Helite and MotoAirbag have more continuous coverage in the upper-mid-back area. All of them have significant tailbone protection. Would have loved to see Hit-Air included in this but I understand you can't test everything. I also discovered MotoAirbag recently and was wondering about them. Good to hear that they're for real. Any reputable airbag system seems very useful but it's nice to have some idea of how they stack up. Thanks, John and team.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yes - I'd like to include Hit Air in the written article in the future. Cheers, John
@jesuslcampillo19892 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about buying the Hit Air. Yes, it has a bit less chest protection, but it allows more air flow on the summer to wear it on top of your mesh jacket
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the benefit of thick 3D mesh under the bladder - having ridden through France and Spain in a heatwave, I can say that you don't have to compromise on coverage.
@ApexRadius2 ай бұрын
@jesuslcampillo1989 Airflow is one of the reasons I chose the Hit-Air MLV2. Its design seems to optimize comfort. It's not a typical vest; in fact, they often call the ML models a "harness" design. Not sure that sounds more comfortable but they did make that distinction. It's really well made and, since it's designed to be worn over gear, the outer shell is made from abrasion-resistant material. I use it over a AA-rated mesh jacket in the summer and at works really well. It has velcro attachments so you can add a chest protector. too. I'd recommend that. It can also be worn over a suit or jacket with a race hump. Cheers.
@Me7roiD2 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Would love to see a similar showdown for airbag backpacks as well -- unfortunately though, it seem as though nowhere near enough of these are currently on the market to begin with. Great work regardless; much appreciated!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
The Helite backpack would, I'd imagine, give similar results to the Turtle 2
@Me7roiD2 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial certainly - as long as one is able to get their hands on the Helite backpack in the first place, which, all things considered, is a tall order. I have actually been considering a MotoAirBag backpack for a while now - but the complete lack of front protection is putting me off.
@146matt2 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the work that went into this John, very informative. I've been wearing an Ixon in&motion airbag for three years... a few notes from my experiences: - Wearing the airbag makes you significantly warmer, with a leather jacket I get very uncomfortable over 20°C hence switch to mesh - I hope that as airbags develop they will find ways to improve airflow (ladder bladder rather than sausage?). Did you ever see the Rev'it April fools vented airbag? - People seem to be pretty anti the in&motion subscription model.. it has worked reasonably well for me as my control box developed a fault and was replaced free of charge within a week. Customer service was excellent. - It would be much better if there was a charging port in the vest. Having to remove the controller to charge it is a bit of a pain. If you go a few weeks between rides it will go flat so you need to remember to keep it charged... couldn't the app send you some reminders on battery level? As you develop this investigation could you help us understand the differences between the systems available to the public and those used in racing. I suspect the RST in&motion systems you get in their off the peg and M2M suits are the same for national level racers and the great unwashed... is this true of the systems used in Moto GP? It would be interesting to understand the differences.
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
Thanks so much for this - really helpful, and I'll keep building on the written article. All the best, John
@GarryMcGovern2 ай бұрын
Superb video, absolutely first rate. I've shared it in my instructors WA group (I'm a track instructor at Mondello Park here in Ireland), and will get one of the lads to share it on FB too (seeing as I'm no longer on it! Haha!). Cheers my man, top work once again!
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much - really appreciate it! Cheers, John
@Habshosh972 ай бұрын
Really really thank you very much for the honest review that you made for us