Nice but $6k is too much. I'd rather get the Apple Vision Pro.
@johnrobbo9164 ай бұрын
I really miss my W2700-it was an absolute beast. However, after moving to a place with too many windows, it was practically unusable during the day. I do miss the cinematic experience. Watching Titanic on that projector was incredible. Now, I have a 77-inch Samsung, which is great, but I still long for the projector setup. The cost, though, is a significant barrier. A decent projector can run about $9k, and then you'll need a sound system, adding another $2k. It's pricey to maintain. If only I didn't have a wife! :D PS: Amazing review. One day, I'll get this... one day.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
It sure is an expensive hobby!
@Gamer4Eire4 ай бұрын
Agree have a 2700 in a light controlled room and its amazing, I still want a W5800
@thatsoundofwater37273 ай бұрын
Damn I wish I could afford one of these I fell in love with projectors a year ago!
@mrpmj002 ай бұрын
Nice but $6k is too much. I'd rather get the Apple Vision Pro.
@Topfrocker4 ай бұрын
Great beamer. I use the W2710 and the sharpness and contrast is great. But you mentioned true or native 4k beamer. This is not correct. It has a 1080p DLP chip with e shift to reach 4k. But not native. Those are much more expensive 🤷🏼🤜🏼❤️🤛🏼
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
Yes correct its not native.. I put the overlay as native incorrectly.
@JohnWickFour4 ай бұрын
Nice review Tony, would have been good for you to test 4k 120hz and 1080p 240hz modes. So are the blacks that much better on the Epson? Guess both great at this price point. Cheers
@DavidSusiloUnscripted4 ай бұрын
This video may answer your questions about black levels. And no, it doesn’t do 4K/120 (I made a mistake in my video, didn’t realize that I was playing 1080/120) BenQ W5800 Laser Projector WORLD’s FIRST REVIEW AND COMPARISONS of kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZDGfGOBbLl7Zsk
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
I cover black levels in the video. Check chapter markers. Nothing like my JVC but it’s a dlp light engine and calibrated with 2.2 gamma which is pretty high. I’m running 2.6 in sdr on my JVC. Also the reason I didn’t test higher frame rates is because it’s a cinema projector so the angle I took was for movies more so than gaming. I recently did a review of the Benq gaming projector.
@JohnWickFour4 ай бұрын
Did it look better on your non ALR screen and much gain difference on screen your main room. Think I'll have to back to back comparison in shop when ready.
@theformalreview70454 ай бұрын
While I haven't dealt with others, BenQ also has really good/responsive customer service. Never an issue with them when needed
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
🤜🤛
@TerminatorJuice4 ай бұрын
Considering that the JVC NP5 is now $5,000 in the US, it sounds like it would be the easy pick over the BenQb for people in America.... The only things that I would think the BenQ has over the JVC is the lower fan noise and lack of needing to replace a lamp every 1,000 s-1500 hours.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Hey mate, if u saw I mentioned the np5 but I was trying to keep it to laser projectors. The nz7 is 17K. Np5 for me is the sweet spot but not everyone wants bulbs especially if in Europe.
@handcoding3 ай бұрын
On the other hand, perhaps a silver lining to the JVC is that once its lamp runs out, you can just get another lamp. While with a laser projector, once the laser reaches its end of life, I think that’s just it?
@TerminatorJuice3 ай бұрын
@@handcoding I didn't think anyone would use or own a projector long enough for the laser light to start to dim or"burn out", but if there was a defect and it had a short life, then yes, it would be easier to replace a lamp in the JVC.
@handcoding3 ай бұрын
@@TerminatorJuice You make a fair point. With a rated life of 20,000 hours, even if you were to use the projector for 3 hours a day and for 365 days a year, it should still last 18 years.
@TerminatorJuice3 ай бұрын
@@handcoding I feel like I've used my NP5 a ton since I got it in March 2023, yet I'm only at around 570 hours... So yeah, I wouldn't be worried about replacing a laser in a lifetime! Haha
@DavidSusiloUnscripted4 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video, Tony. Especially compared to my janky W5800 review.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Thanks David, I’ll go give yours a watch! I never watch other videos until I release mine so I don’t get any bias :) I’m not a professional calibrator like you - purely enthusiast with a passion to learn. I also decided not to measure or calibrate for this review to test how it worked out of the box. So many angles u can take with a video.
@DLPHomeCinema3 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage @DavidSusiloUnscripted neither of you seem to have an issue with the incredibly low contrast ratio? Am I missing something here? I want to try one of these but with 900:1 native it seems pretty hard to believe it is as good as you guys say??
@DavidSusiloUnscripted2 ай бұрын
@@DLPHomeCinema @builtmontage yes the contrast ratio is not great but the native contrast ratio only tells part of the story. The other part of the story is the HDR handling done by the 1000 zones HDR dimming based on frame-by-frame analysis making it the best DLP projector on the market. Having a good contrast ratio but with poor HDR handling such as the Sony X5000 making me choose the W5800 than the Sony X5000.
@JayCham_JC4 ай бұрын
Thank you Tony. How would you compare the picture quality to the HT4550?
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
It’s better and brighter but also double the price.
@JayCham_JC4 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage I mean compared to my old TK800M it will be night and day with either one.
@FatFolksProductions3 ай бұрын
Great review. I feel like the HT4550i would be a better bang for your buck. How would you compare the two in regards to black levels and brightness?
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I feel the w5800 is better overall brighter and better black levels but also a sharper image.
@powerinnumbers61594 ай бұрын
To compare to W5700 ; Blacks are same as W5700. Colour ( color ) is better out of the box than my W5700 was. Brightness and HDR is leaps and bounds better than W5700 to my eyes. Also it does look sharper!!! Throw ratio smaller but a much better experience to align to screen.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your feedback. Lots of mixed opinions about it - however - as I ACTUALLY had one in to test, I shared it exactly as I saw it. Add masking panels to this for scope movies and you would think you had insane black levels. Thats the only thing that can trick the mind is the grey bars during a scope movie.
@powerinnumbers61593 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage Do you know of a supplier for masking panels?
@iamstrong913 ай бұрын
From what i have read on other review this is NOT native 4k. This is just another pxiel shifting VLP. If this is the case the price it's just insane.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
Its native resolution is UHD. You can check for yourself on the Benq website. Link in description. For comparison the Epson ls12000b is similarly priced and a pixel shifter.
@iamstrong913 ай бұрын
Why i can't see my answer? Check out the projector central review "The W5800 is a laser projector using a 0.47-inch DLP chip that achieves 4K UHD resolution with four-phase pixel shifting to quadruple the chip's 1920x1080 native resolution."
@iamstrong913 ай бұрын
Are you blocking my answers?
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
@@iamstrong91 no I’m not blocking anything - I can see all of your answers. Benq said it’s native and I’ve seen other reviews say it’s native. I’ll reach out to them and if it is then I’ll put a comment in the description.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
@@iamstrong91 oh u cannot links - KZbin auto blocks it.
@bassage134 ай бұрын
I don't think I can ever go back from JVC. They just look soooo damn good. The prices are pretty insane on the higher end models though.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Yep which is why I have an NP5 in my dedicated room:)
@percybedford62664 ай бұрын
Sweet review, really appreciate it. I wish this was available when I bought my LS12000 in October. When I bought mine I was considering the 5000es and NP5. At that time the NP5 was $7000 and ironically back then I thought they were overpriced. Since then JVC has brought them down to $5000. The Sony was a no go because of no power lens shift and lens memory so I went with the LS12000. The W5800 looks really promising. It has a lot calibration controls, color accuracy, and sharpness with decent black levels. How is the tone mapping? Thanks again for your help.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Thanks Percy, and the LS12000b is definitely still a great projector and I'm sure you would be loving it. The NP5 was my personal choice as I wanted the inky blacks and didnt mind having a bulb. I had an Epson 6040UB for a few years and it served me well as Im sure the Epson would for you also. The tone mapping was nice on the w5800 - I find the colours on the Benq to be insanely good, very "cinematic" although I hate that word these days!
@percybedford62664 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage yeah the blacks on the LS12000 are good. It is a nice a projector for sure. I watched The Woman King a few days ago in the theater and the LS12000 throws a really good picture. Thanks again for everything you do.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
@@percybedford6266 appreciate you watching :)
@PratyushNobeen4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. Very helpful. How much would you rate the black levels on 10? 8.5?
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Relative black levels are awesome but if u see CinemaScope there are still bars. The footage in the video isn’t modified.
@TorinTPG4 ай бұрын
Great review. I’m happy to see that laser projectors are gaining some steam in the home theater world. I still worry that projectors will become obsolete in time due to larger and larger TVs. I think that there will also be a market, but hopefully manufacturers don’t entirely jump ship
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
They will never be obsolete mate.
@DLPHomeCinema3 ай бұрын
I have to thank you for this review and the videos you took. Videos like this convinced me to give this one a shot and wow am i surprised. This projector is amazing, sure black levels arent JVC level if screen is completely dark but everything else beats JVC up to and including RS2100 IMO. Any scene with mix of black and bright and the black level is amazing. Its only the folks that drool over a black screen that will have issues with this one.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
Well I do have a JVC but this was honestly really good
@DLPHomeCinema3 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage yeah DLP fans finally have a true home theater (not lifestyle) projector option in the realistic price space.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
@laserdischometheater1508 it’s very sharp and bright. Single chip dlp = bright and sharp but does lack contrast. Still a beautiful image
@christennery28772 ай бұрын
I own a BenQ LK970 and am looking to upgrade it to something even better. I have owned it now for 4 years and have been impressed with it colors and Lumens. Would you say that the BenQ W5800 is better and a great improvement over the BenQ LK970 or do you even know?
@BuildMontage2 ай бұрын
I havent tested that older model, but this one stacks up VERY nicely. If I was in the market for a new one with that sort of budget I would definitely get it.
@lucy-me-lucyАй бұрын
Nice video, thank you. How about input lag for gaming?
@BuildMontageАй бұрын
I didn't test it for gaming as it's target is more aimed toward home theater - But it does have some low latency modes - I dare say judging by the other Benq models aimed at gaming it should peform pretty well.
@EverythingHomeTheater4 ай бұрын
Man, I wish lens memory function was on more projectors
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Definitely adds to the price of the projector. Look at Sonys offering its 10K and manual :)
@EverythingHomeTheater4 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontageunderstandable. But if it's got motorized zoom and focus you would think they could at least have some save points for the different sized screens to be able to zoom in to fill your Cinema wide and zoom out and then just add a couple save points. Lover your review though and thought about this projector when I saw it a couple days ago but then without the lens memory quickly put it to the side.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
@LFG_People do you mean lens memory for multiple sizes?
@EverythingHomeTheater4 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontageI just mean being able to zoom in and focus to where the top and bottom letter bars are gone on a cinema wide and then zoom out when it's a 16 by 9 show. You would have let her bars on the sides but people expect that when they have a cinema wide. I plan on using smart curtains
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
@LFG_People u can do that but I think you mean you want to store multiple positions and zoom points. You can set masks as well. I don’t know if u can save multiple positions. I didn’t try to test that as I’m demoing on a 16:9.
@RafaelMll18 күн бұрын
What do you mean add an image processor? You mean a fancy 4k player like a Panasonic?
@BuildMontage18 күн бұрын
@@RafaelMll no, like a Lumagen or MadVR.
@nandivdiaries48453 ай бұрын
Great review. What would be the key difference between W4000i VS W5800 ?? Planned to purchase W4000i then came across W5800 Can you please suggest.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
You can watch my review on the w4000i on my channel as well for a similar style review. Off hand, main differences are higher brightness on the w5800 and overall it feels very similar in colours but brightness and contrast is better on the w5800.. Plus it's a laser light vs LED.. otherwise, typical BENQ, very good colours and options to calibrate.
@trendyprojectors47432 ай бұрын
Since such projectors require a heavy investment, one should research well to make sure they get a good deal..... am I right?
@Icelandlover4 ай бұрын
Is it Native 4K? Would it really make a difference? Thanks for the wonderful review! At last, one that wins me over for getting one!
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Yes it's a native 4K panel and yes, it's super sharp and I was able to get the focus dialled in very nicely which is why it looked so good in the recordings.
@openaperture91973 ай бұрын
It’s not Native 4K It uses the .47 DLP chip ( with a 1080p native resolution) with 4 X Pixel shifting.
@snowbeast72164 ай бұрын
If you can't game on a $6k USD projector, no amount of other features matter. Input lag is horrible. Also using the cheaper .47 DLP Chip vs. the newer .65 that projectors less than half its cost are using. Jvc and Sony are better value all round even with bulb. I have always had a problem with BenQ's supposed "value"---->at what cost? And yes I have owned multiple. Thumbs up to the review though, good content. Do some side by side in a future video please.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Generally it’s impossible for me to do side by side as the projectors come and go quickly and at different times. Benq do have access to the .65” DMD but I don’t know why they went this way - maybe that additional cost tipped it outside of their marketing window?
@ANTONELLOSHARK3 ай бұрын
Hi, I have a question, purely analyzing the quality of the images, contrast and details, is the W4000 superior? (detail/contrast) I'm undecided between the two despite having different prices (I'm not interested in the motorized optic) I hope for your answer. Thank you
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I have to go by my memory and while I liked the w4000i, I feel that direct comparison that the w5800 is a superior projector. I know people complaining by the "specs" saying its a .47"DMD DLP, however, look at the footage I took.. it's pretty incredible image in my opinion. It is brighter than the w4000i, and I feel has better contrast - going from my memory.. It's hard to say one way or the other as you have a lot of factors to consider. But asking a direct choice - I'd pick the w5800.
@openaperture91973 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review but this is not a Native 4K projector. It uses the .47 DLP chip ( with a 1080p native resolution) with 4 X Pixel shifting.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I am yet to verify this from Benq but if it is, I will post it in the description as I said TrueHD, but overlay in text I said Native.
@hugochampagne97333 ай бұрын
Do you recommend use this porjector with a ALR CLR 3 projector screen? I have a Samsun lsp9t but my plan is to sell it to buy the benq w5800 instead.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I don't know if that screen will work 100% with that projector. I did have a ceiling mounted projector running from my AEON CLR projector screen and it actually worked! You could always test it out and then just replace the screen if it doesn't look right. I know people will say 100% you can't use it but i was shocked to see it actually looked quite good.
@ppp8252 ай бұрын
Does this projector have lens memory, anyone knows ?
@bryanp48274 ай бұрын
Hey Tony, honestly is it that much better than the w4000i, given that it is using the .47 inch chip, instead of the .65 in the 4000i? And especially the price point difference...
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
I tested both. The brightness from this one definitely makes a difference and also the colours are more vivid. I’ve reviewed both. I try to be objective. Personally I’m a JVC fanatic so I have to try and forget. I do agree the .65” DMD may have been a better choice. I’ve reviewed many Benq projectors but I was seriously impressed with this one. The footage speaks for itself. I have no agenda… I just put the time in and try to give a real honest opinion based on what I experience.
@Ovesundberg1243 ай бұрын
For a dedicated home theater which would you recommend the w5800 or the Sony vpl es5000
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I would go the BENQ due to the electronic lens shift, zoom and multitude of calibration controls. Possibly you may say the Sony panel and native 4K is better overall but I prefer the look of the w5800 over the sony personally having viewed both.
@Ovesundberg1243 ай бұрын
w5800 vs ls1200b
@TorinTPG4 ай бұрын
2 videos in one week!
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Yes mate… working hard!!
@triplerinse4 ай бұрын
Great video
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@kazeuq59703 ай бұрын
Hi I have 6.8 mm into 6.1 mm room. Is 6.8 mm enough to optain 200 inch 4.7 in 2.13 mm screen
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
That is a huge screen and pushing the light limitations of the projector. Large screens like that need really high LUMENS output to give more than 40-50nits.
@kazeuq59703 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. But this is exactly what W5800 said is capable of giving 200 inch exactly. I have already bought the 200 inch screen. Should I buy the W5800. I am willing to have magificant 4K at dark light cinematic room
@kazeuq59703 ай бұрын
Greeting All What I am trying to say. The specification mentions that 200 inch can be given within 6.7 to 10.8 mm from the lens. Now, if my room is exactly 6.8 mm from the wall, that's means I will lose some cm distance from beginning of the projector to the lens which give me about 6 meter or 6.2 distance from lens to the wall (screen). With this fact, is the projector still give the 200 inch?. Is their another recommended model that can give 100 nits or more with same room size and with same price of w5800 or less? Regards,
@appdata0072 ай бұрын
Plz do compare it to formovie 4k UST triple laser sir...I hv personally watched that formovie....it's just exceptional ❤❤❤❤...
@BuildMontage2 ай бұрын
Hi there - I don't do comparison videos - there are far too many and the amount of work involved is not possible for me to do :) I have done a formovie review - it's on my channel - check the playlist :D
@appdata0072 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage ok shd u recommend buying this over this one ....just tell honestly sir?
@mauriciob82604 ай бұрын
I will love to see a comparation with this projector with a 110 inches 4k tv from TCL, I think in 2 more years a 110 inches tv will cost half of the cost of this projector and even so with a better picture quality .
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Two different use cases. Can you put speakers behind a TV in a dedicated home theater?
@mauriciob82604 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage people always manage to acomplish that 😎
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
@@mauriciob8260 I wonder how… audio passing through a solid screen
@bassage134 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage I don't think he understands what you mean.
@bassage134 ай бұрын
110" is a TINY screen compared to what most projector owners are using.
@TadeuCPinto3 ай бұрын
If you have 2 units , you can change by a small house ou AP here in Brazil. 😂😂😂😂😂
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I have zero units - this one already was returned to BENQ :D
@davidcuadrado84292 ай бұрын
Merci..👍🇫🇷
@saikatbose83703 ай бұрын
😂😂Epson be aware. The 3d support
@Basti7910003 ай бұрын
Yearh Man, but the Black Level ist Grey
@vagomaniac3 ай бұрын
I would gladly pay 2.500 euros for this. 6.000 is just laughable with a 2.000euro xgimi giving 2000:1 native contrast and a DE
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I think the electronic shift/zoom does bump the price up quite a bit. Look at the Sony 5000 - all manual and costs the same however it is native - so I imagine there has to be compromises to keep it down. Also I don't believe that BENQ have developed their own 4K native chip yet. Texas Instruments is the easier path.
@vagomaniac3 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage the price difference is too huge when the image is not good enough. The Sony projector cost less and has better picture in every aspect
@PwewX4604 ай бұрын
the black level is terrible. and when you have a dedicated cinema room. it bothers me even more. At this price, Eposn TW9400 still reigns supreme
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Black levels are not bad at all. Not JVC level but on par with dlp light engines
@PwewX4604 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage It is sold at the same price as the Sony 5000ES. I don't predict success for this Medel, it's simply too expensive for the 0.47DMD system.
@Boolama274 ай бұрын
Great review but no HDMI 2.1 (4K @ 120) is a killer for me.... come on BenQ its 2024. What a shame.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
I only watch in 24p so it’s not a big deal for me.
@JohnWickFour4 ай бұрын
Yep which the Epson laser does have, but is eshift. So comprises either way. But gaming and future proof at 4k 120hz is solid feature. However 1080p 240hz would be great also.
@Boolama274 ай бұрын
@@JohnWickFour I love watching movies and PC gaming too. 4K @120 plz
@swagman234563Ай бұрын
Would this be a major upgrade over the lghu710pw?
@oblivion_0074 ай бұрын
Cinemascope?
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
No, but you can blank out if you need to top and bottom.
@YoungBlaze4 ай бұрын
Hmmm the xgimi 4k ultra seems a lot better
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
I have the XGIMI and as much as I love it, the Benq does have it beat on contrast and colours - although I feel the XGIMI is brighter and also has Dolby Vision - given the choice, I'd probably go the BENQ but it's also double the price.
@rickykim853 ай бұрын
0.47 DMD in this price… Why….
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
Probably the best picture from a 0.47" DMD I've seen - tricked me into think it was native after I was told that it was from a few sources - and the Benq website states it as the resolution but doesn't say it's a 4 way shift. Great picture and tonnes of brightness.
@handcoding3 ай бұрын
Saved you a click: This is $9,000. So unless you’re rich, you can probably skip this video.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
So the sum total of all the work I put into the review comes down to Benq's price tag?
@handcoding3 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage Yup. If a projector is thousands of dollars more than my price range, then there’s not much point in me watching the review (as good as the review may be).
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
Wow ok 😂
@handcoding3 ай бұрын
@@BuildMontage I’m not sure that I understand? Are you mad that I’m not rich? Like, I’m not saying that your reviews are bad! In fact, they’re really good.
@BuildMontage3 ай бұрын
@handcoding no no all good. I often watch car videos of cars I can’t afford but don’t tell people to save a click because I can’t personally afford it. That’s all :) no issues my end
@reconstructionwouldhavesav94724 ай бұрын
110" tv is better.
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
🤌🏼
@TorinTPG4 ай бұрын
TVs have their advantages, but so do projectors. Different needs for different setups
@bryanp48274 ай бұрын
Do you know how much a 110 inch TV is...?
@Warhawk944 ай бұрын
How much is your 150” TV? My screen is 150”.
@bassage134 ай бұрын
110" is like a tablet compared to the size of my massive screen. Maybe some day TVs can get large enough to replace projectors, but we are not there yet. For TVs to reach the size I need, they would have to be some kind of foldable screen technology, because you can't carry or ship something that size. Maybe in 20 years.
@saikatbose83703 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂3d plus 4k. Epson should learn.