What’s The Difference Between Festool’s Dust Extractors?

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Bent's Woodworking

Bent's Woodworking

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In this video I discuss the differences between the different Festool CT Dust Extractor options. I explain the differences between the CT Mini, CT Midi, CT15, CT26, CT36, and CT48. Hopefully this will give you a little more insight into which Festool CT Dust Extractor may be right for you in your shop.
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@reubs91
@reubs91 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 36l. I made a big mistake and should have got the smaller version, the 15l, just too big to haul around and jobs depending, can take months to fill a bag.
@vadimroelants7694
@vadimroelants7694 2 жыл бұрын
I have a MIDI for a couple of years now and recently added a CTM36, both are great even when the bag is full suction power is still great. but the suction power of the CTM36 is on a whole other level compared to the MIDI. Midi is great for just cleaning up a project, whereas if u want to hook up some tools like the wallsander or other woodworkers the CTM36 is just way better in troughput and power. So when u say they are basicly the same; don't be mistaken tho, u will get more power out of a larger vac (aka anything not mini/midi)
@Noman3
@Noman3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. This was all stuff I was trying to figure out when I purchased my vacuum and I think you did a great job summarizing it.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@underfiles1
@underfiles1 3 жыл бұрын
Also the different kinds of dust and materials you use the vacuum for make the difference in choosing the right vacuum for the job. For example the ctl mini/midi are only L-class materials like normal dust and big shavings etc. The ctm midi is suitable for M-class materials such as paint, concrete dust and other very fine dust types.
@edwinghysebrechts9377
@edwinghysebrechts9377 3 жыл бұрын
The midi l and midi m are basically the same, no different filter, just a sensor in the hose telling you the bag is ful. No reason to pay for the m really
@Modestas_Gardziu
@Modestas_Gardziu Жыл бұрын
I just learned a hard way that midi m extractor is not suitable for very fine dust (definitely not for sanding a drywall or concrete) . If you check description it says midi m can be used only for brief drywall or concrete sanding. My mistakes was buying midi m thinking that it will be suitable for fine dust, using midi m for drywall sanding, concrete grindinig. Almost killed my vac, as it was starting to be super hot after short sanding sessions. Midi m and midi l essentially is the same vac only m gives you a beeping warning if suction drops.
@varsitynoodle
@varsitynoodle 3 жыл бұрын
CT36 w/ the pre-separator is approx. 16 gallons. Luxury buy for sure compared to a standard shop vac with a cyclone. In more than 6 months of use with the pre-separator, I've not yet filled the bag in the CT36, and I'm using my setup for general purpose
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can imagine it would take forever to fill a bag with that setup. 👍
@wittworks
@wittworks 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve helped me decide the midi is the one for me. I want to get one with a rando sander. What sander do you recommend? I have not tasted the green koolaid yet. So this combo will be the entry, similar to yours.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best all around sander is the ETS/EC models.
@lmallard3788
@lmallard3788 Жыл бұрын
You could use a 36mm hose on the midi to get more air flow. I am only using mine for sanding and the 27mm hose works pleasingly well for me
@cg3205
@cg3205 8 ай бұрын
Simple, clear explanation of the differences. Shame on Festool for their official videos not being as clear or honest as this one.
@niftygriffty
@niftygriffty 6 ай бұрын
I got greedy on size and got a CT36 years ago. I’m looking to add an AC soon as well. If I could go back in time i’d get a smaller one instead of the CT36 - gets heavy!
@carbb5760
@carbb5760 2 жыл бұрын
I have ctsys, midi and ct36ac. Midi is the sweet spot no question about it. Weight is good making it easily portable, capacity and suction are adequate to do basically all jobs. 36 is a beast, awesome machine, terrible if you are dragging it around to job sites I basically carry it in several pieces it can get so damn heavy. The ctsys is a great idea but in practice it is a piece of trash. Meant to be portable and compact but ends of taking up the most room in the truck because the hose and cord don’t pack up well at all. Loses most suction power when the bag is had full.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
The Midi is a great vac for sure
@markoddo9414
@markoddo9414 3 жыл бұрын
Great summary. I have had the 26 for years and I rarely empty it - the vac does a great job of packing the dust tight into the bag. It is not my primary vac but I use with the track saw, sanders and routers so a fair amount of dust generators. I didn’t get the boom arm but made my own over my assembly table with the 5m hose - saved some $ but I really didn’t like the big support system hanging off the CT - in a small shop it is a trip hazard around the work area (but it is a great design overall).
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@johnfrederickson3082
@johnfrederickson3082 3 жыл бұрын
How about the dBA rating, that very important 71! I have a Ridgid vac which I like except it screams at approx. 100,000
@julianweiser9985
@julianweiser9985 3 жыл бұрын
You can somewhat have a normal conversation while at lowest setting (MINI). Never needed more power.
@michaell8835
@michaell8835 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason, great vid. I have a question regarding festool extractor hoses, have searched and searched but still unsure on a couple of aspects. Finally worked out that Cleantec is when the tool end has a bayonet on the rubber. Also worked out that AS means anti static. But confused by difference AS/CT and AS/CTR, I’m assuming the CT bit means fits a CT model extractor, but what about the R? Not sure yet whether that means a rotating end (at the extractor), or the hose has RFID. Anyone know? The hoses are expensive so want to make sure I chose the right one. Also, some hoses state they aren’t suitable for extractors with autoclean, but I can’t work out why? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@tcbridges
@tcbridges 2 жыл бұрын
I have the ct36 with the top seperator and now there is a new ad on box shaped black one from Onida Wonder how the CT36 works with it. Both about same money
@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223
@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this hoping to see what machine is best suited for different tools . I just got the larger domino and I am planning to get a sander . Maybe they are all suitable . I am new to festool .
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
The CT 26 is a great dust extractor to start with
@michaelkaye4998
@michaelkaye4998 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I went to my local Woodcraft store when the CT15 came out which I purchased. I use it with my sander, Kreg track saw, and to clean out the bottom of the SaWStop table saw. It is fine for the amount of things I do. THE one thing it doesn’t have that I wish it did is a wheel break. It isn’t often an issue but ...
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@DragonclawMakerStudio
@DragonclawMakerStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need any special adapters to work with those tools?
@DocRonSnyder
@DocRonSnyder 3 жыл бұрын
You covered everything except for the cyclone separator.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I know, I’m gonna make a part 2 to this video in the future that does a deeper dive into the accessories. Seems to be a lot of interest.
@johnhenson4054
@johnhenson4054 3 ай бұрын
The festool vacuum should buy is any thing other than festool… I just got quoted $658 to fix mine and it’s done light duty work. It’s the 5 tool I’ve needed to repair in the past 3 years. Festool are crap now
@AngieWilliamsDesigns
@AngieWilliamsDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. About to pull the trigger on either the 26 or the 36. Thanks for sharing.
@aetorres7422
@aetorres7422 5 ай бұрын
Well I think CFM is pretty important it's 25 c f m per inch per blade like you would need 125 CFM for a 5-inch disc
@pf5658
@pf5658 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the CT15 does not come with the same anti static hose. It’s has a plastic type of material hose. Great explanation though. I own the CT-MIDI and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. This little thing is a mini monster.
@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053
@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053 2 жыл бұрын
Also ct 15 no manual clean filter
@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053
@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053 2 жыл бұрын
I have midi... does the job. But for sure ct 26 will be better when the make it auto or manually clean filter
@mattsjoelfernandes9132
@mattsjoelfernandes9132 Жыл бұрын
Bro if you are changing those bags out every time you’re just lazy and wasteful. Takes a couple minutes to shake that thing empty.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Jason for running us thru the variety of dust extraction options. My CT Midi has served me well as a machine dedicated to sanding & track saw use. The blue tooth feature is a great value & convenience. The Midi is a good compromise between capacity & portability. Like anything from Festool, my recommendation is to always purchase from a knowledgeable dealer. Unlike many products, buying Festool online won’t save you a dime. A good dealer should ask what you need to do with the tool, and will find the right tool to meet your requirements. As Jason so thoroughly stated about dust extractors, Festool offers a range of capabilities in each line of tools (sanders, drills, track saws, etc.). There’s usually one specific model in each line that will best meet your requirements. If you can’t get to a Festool dealer, and are limited to buying online, I suggest calling/ emailing Hartville Hardware, Hartville, Indiana. They’re the mid-west’s largest Festool dealer. Their customer service is very knowledgeable and helpful. This recommendation is a personal testimonial, not intended as an ad for Hartville Hardware.
@tscottedgingtoniii
@tscottedgingtoniii 2 ай бұрын
I used to have one of these sustainer-based vacuums. The biggest issue I had with it was the amount of heat it put out. I haven’t had that experience with any of the other festival vacuums. But is there a report that shows what the BTU output is per machine?😊
@uswcboy
@uswcboy 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to use the machine with other tools…makita, dewalt, Bosch, etc Does festool make adapters for the previously mentioned tools?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Festool doesn’t make adapters for other tools but other companies do
@uswcboy
@uswcboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Thank you for letting me know.
@jeffhampton6972
@jeffhampton6972 Жыл бұрын
This is extremely helpful, thank you so much for making it!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@GarrySanchez
@GarrySanchez 2 жыл бұрын
Looking to pickup a MIDI soon. But your link has the vacuum on backorder. Do you have a affiliate link for the MIDI that is in stock? Thanks, always like the information in your videos.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like these days it’s on and off with the availability on Amazon. I appreciate you asking if I have another link though 👍👍
@DragonclawMakerStudio
@DragonclawMakerStudio 2 жыл бұрын
What challenges do you have with non Festool tools? I'm thinking of buying Festool dust extraction but I am not blessed with Festool tools. I've read a lot of forums but value your thoughts.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t really speak to that cause I primarily have Festool tools so I haven’t had any issues. There are many companies thought that make adapters.
@johnforsyth8414
@johnforsyth8414 Жыл бұрын
Can these vacuums be used for just general Workshop clean up and not necessarily connected to any particular sanding tools? And does that mean you have to purchase other accessories to use it as a general workshop cleanup vacuum?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Yes and yes. They have accessories for the vacs
@missbobo126
@missbobo126 2 ай бұрын
Would this help with cleaning up fiberglass by any chance?
@woodcraft_cz
@woodcraft_cz 3 жыл бұрын
So to confirm a CTM e v CTM e AC is the same vac but the later having auto clean?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have any experience with the M series but I would assume yes
@tcbridges
@tcbridges 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful video. TY. Couple questions what model do you have hooke uo to our miter saw and when you where doing the cuts what model track saw where you using and what vac was it hooked to.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
MIDI for my Miter saw. CT36 for everything else
@JustTony72
@JustTony72 3 жыл бұрын
I can't keep my eyes off your festool wall. I think it's better stocked than my local store. Wonderful explanation
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful 👍
@williamcarter8226
@williamcarter8226 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Question, can the Kapex 120 be plugged into the MIDI or is the load to high? Thanks!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I use a midi for mine.
@NicolasRubio
@NicolasRubio 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! I have a MIDI and one thing that I don’t like about it is that if I want to add the CT-VA Cyclone, I have to make an adapter for the hose because it was designed for the CT-26/36/48 vacs which have the inlet in the front.
@ggfggf4151
@ggfggf4151 3 жыл бұрын
That's not correct. At least for the new German version of the midi it works without any adapter already :)
@NicolasRubio
@NicolasRubio 3 жыл бұрын
@@ggfggf4151 Thanks! But how? I have a new european CT MIDI and when I tried it, as both ends of the short hose are “L” shaped, it wouldn’t fit in the MIDI’s inlet.
@ggfggf4151
@ggfggf4151 3 жыл бұрын
@@NicolasRubio ahhh okay. On 2020 version of ct va 20 I do have only 1 side that is l shaped not both. I guess you do have another version of it? Maybe not the newest model? Festool do revise products from time to time and ct va 20 got a few updates in 2020
@NicolasRubio
@NicolasRubio 3 жыл бұрын
@@ggfggf4151 Well, my experience was back in mid-2019, so they must’ve upgraded it! Great news, I’m buying! Thanks!
@AngieWilliamsDesigns
@AngieWilliamsDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. About to pull the trigger on either the 26 or the 36. Thanks for sharing.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You will be very happy you did
@tupelowoodcarver1785
@tupelowoodcarver1785 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at a situation and would like your opinion. I need to put a good dust collection in my shop. I’m looking at Festool midi, and I must admit I’m in the fog on their tool lineup. The sanders are confusing. I’m a one man shop and would be using it for all my sanding. Rough through 120-320 grit. What would you recommend? And yes I want the Bluetooth option. Also I’m going to buy a Oneida Supercell but they just came out with a Supercell “Turbo” with 20% more than the original supercell. Would you opt for the Turbo? I only open one gate at a time, and have about the same shop tools as yourself.. Thanks
@brianakins83
@brianakins83 3 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot the highland woodworking link you mentioned at the end of the video. Thanks for putting this together.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll fix that right now. Thank you!
@Madmaxian1088
@Madmaxian1088 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking - Still not on there
@utubemaymunadam
@utubemaymunadam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for vid! The different models have different filtration capabilities don't they (L, M and H class extarctors) - any thoughts on this? I've has people recommend L class (low risk) for woodworking while others swear nothing less than M class in indoor environments (not to mention my local laws make it illegal to use anything but H class extractors for commercial work).
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. I’ll let someone else address this if they have information or more knowledge on the topic than I do.
@alexeychernenko2096
@alexeychernenko2096 3 жыл бұрын
From what I know, L and M class machines have the same filters. The main difference between M and L is that M class vacuums have a flow sensor and will warn you then it is time to clean or replace the filter. As for dust types, hardwood is M class, softwood is L. Mine random-guy-from-the-internet opinion: for woodworking L is OK (think, many people choose it over M just because of the price), M is optimal and H is an overkill
@markoddo9414
@markoddo9414 3 жыл бұрын
I was told that you can add the hepa primary filter to the older ct’s but unsure if that is true and whether you lose cfm. Not sure what class the extractor becomes then. You can probably do a month of 5-min friday’s on this topic!
@kbram7363
@kbram7363 3 жыл бұрын
I hAve the MIDI. Perfect size for me
@summoning111
@summoning111 2 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video. My small concern regarding this platform (and I admittedly know nothing about festool vacs) is that the auto feature is limited to tools with max 1600w ? Is that right? Some (not many) of my tools have higher wattage, mostly the ones creating most dust.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
They are designed for smaller hand held tools.
@summoning111
@summoning111 2 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking thank you for your prompt response. Should have known that - it's festool at the end of the day lol ;)
@BKMakes
@BKMakes 3 жыл бұрын
CT26E w/ boom arm, bluetooth switch, cyclone separator and workshop cleaning set here and loving IT! Credit to you and Spags for the referral ;o)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a solid setup bro!
@alwatts9713
@alwatts9713 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy...do I want bluetooth capabilities with my shop vac? I was hoping they'd have a model with artificial intelligence already baked in. Just kidding. This is cool equipment. Pricey, but good and very cool.
@austinstubblefield9907
@austinstubblefield9907 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. I’ve been looking at upgrading and Festool is on the list.
@Kbcqw
@Kbcqw 3 жыл бұрын
Which would be ideal for a paint contractor doing cabinet refinishing work?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Any of them I think. Just have to figure out what bag capacity you want.
@SynQ86
@SynQ86 Жыл бұрын
If you carry the vacuum around to jobsite's etc, stick with the mini or midi. Even a half full midi gets annoyingly heavy when you have to lug it around constantly. I can't imagine carrying around a CT26 or even larger for that matter lol But these things are quality. I have a midi that's like between 10 - 15 years old and it still goes strong although it looks like a piece of shit haha.
@tim-hypnotherapist
@tim-hypnotherapist 3 жыл бұрын
New to this line of vacuums. are these the kind that you connect to table saws, compound miter saws, planers, jointers etc. I am looking for a vacuum that I can connect to the tool I am using. Garage Woodworker here.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
These aren’t designed to be hooked up to larger tools.
@tim-hypnotherapist
@tim-hypnotherapist 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Copy that...I was lead astray by the "all your tools" comment....Got way too excited...then my mind fuzzed over.
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 2 жыл бұрын
None of these reviews covers DUST vs CHIP collection… dust should be considered anything under 5 microns … any reviews that cover that? I’m concerned about how the dust affects my lungs. I’ve read all the info on the Pentz website and agree with what he says.
@Mark_Wood
@Mark_Wood 2 жыл бұрын
Really useful overview Thanks
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@Boogetsbizzy
@Boogetsbizzy 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think a festool extractor can be used as all all purpose vacuum? For instance to pick up small debris like screws, chunks of compound, small drywall chunks and things of that nature?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I do. They even sell cleaning attachment kits for different clean up jobs. I use one for general cleanup when doing remodeling and shop cleaning
@Boogetsbizzy
@Boogetsbizzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking that’s awesome! I appreciate your input. Now I’m just deciding which festool I’m going to buy!
@olivepressdesign
@olivepressdesign 3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious how you connect your Festool DE to a planer. Very timely video 😊 🙏
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You would need adapters. However, it wouldn’t give you the results you may be looking for. It isn’t really set up for use on a planer. Unless you were using a small handheld planer.
@jasonhagen
@jasonhagen 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned you had the boom arm and the workstation WCR-1000. Can you use the workstation with the boom arm installed? I haven’t been able to find this out.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I’m almost positive the answer is no. I don’t believe the work center will fit with the boom arm installed.
@jasonhagen
@jasonhagen 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Ok! I wasn’t sure if you had tried it out or not.
@Bleatedbowl2704
@Bleatedbowl2704 10 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that the ct 15 is a L class extractor while the midi is a M class. I’m looking to get an extractor but just for sanding would the ct 15 be adequate or since it’s a L class is it not?
@michaelkowalenko492
@michaelkowalenko492 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Will the CT15 accept and use the 32mm hose?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I believe so, yes
@jesusjesus1327
@jesusjesus1327 4 ай бұрын
Used to have a ct36 and when bag was full it gets real heavy specially when u have to go on stairs I recently got me a ct midi and i love it its very light and compact,i love the hose garage top i can put my festool tracksaw or sander on it
@derekgranger8228
@derekgranger8228 2 жыл бұрын
I have the new generation midi with the ct va20 cyclone, I can't recommend the cyclone enough. I have emptied the bin so many times and the bag is still only a 1/4 full and most of that is from before I got the cyclone
@kristofferwesterlund2434
@kristofferwesterlund2434 3 жыл бұрын
festool is One of my favorite brand
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@sandjune2753
@sandjune2753 6 ай бұрын
So helpful, thank you so much. I am a DIY person and need to do the odd thing at home but asthmatic and advised to get these as they are better than the cheap ones in hardware stores. My health comes first.
@SteelBladeWoodworks
@SteelBladeWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, great explanation Jason.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@dannyvannierop805
@dannyvannierop805 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason....thanks for the clear video. You already commented briefly in another comment, but what's your take on Festool in combination with an lets say Almeida cyclone system or similar cyclone setup.Dust goes right in the bucket, making emptying much easier .If like you said CFM is pretty much the same on all models you could opt for an Mini and fabricate the dust collection yourself.?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Well you will naturally loose a little CFM with a separator attached. Because of this I would likely opt for a 26 or larger.
@rrrrkoop2776
@rrrrkoop2776 Жыл бұрын
why can't i just use one of my wireless remote switches that i plug my other tools into instead of buying festool bluetooth
@joeking433
@joeking433 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, on Amazon the CT 15 is only $399. I doubt I would pay more than that.
@bonniertaylor1203
@bonniertaylor1203 2 жыл бұрын
Basic question - the term or description vacuum and dust extractor seem to be interchangeable - is the Festool vacuum and or dust extractor the same thing? If they are different in what way? My need would be the Mini or Midi.
@stevereed5776
@stevereed5776 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason, would putting a wider diameter hose make a difference and can that be done on all vacs?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the hose size van be adjusted and it will make a difference. I use the larger hose on my MIDI that is connected to my Kapex.
@agisler87
@agisler87 3 жыл бұрын
I wish it just wasn't an 8 week wait for Festool products right now. Just ordered a Domino 500 and the Mfk 700.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I would shop around a lot and also look at local dealers. I have seen sporadic stock showing up at different vendors. Also, local dealers have items many times and do a poor job having the correct inventory on their websites.
@Looyenss
@Looyenss 3 жыл бұрын
imaging living in the EU and have to wait a YEAR for fucking woodpeckers products.
@agisler87
@agisler87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Looyenss Oh damn! Thanks for the perspective.
@Looyenss
@Looyenss 3 жыл бұрын
@@agisler87 haha no problem
@davidschneider3118
@davidschneider3118 3 жыл бұрын
You will love both tools
@wlnjr
@wlnjr 11 ай бұрын
Could you use your Gyro G700 for tool dust extraction instead of using one of the Festools?
@RickFarris
@RickFarris 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but what if you're gonna have a cyclone in front of it? Then what size extractor do we need?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would choose a 26 or larger because you will naturally loose a bit of suction when adding a cyclone. To counter that, I would choose one that is rated at a 137 CFM
@ggfggf4151
@ggfggf4151 3 жыл бұрын
I do have experience with ctl26 and ctl midi with the ct-va 20 from festool. Both works fine! As mentioned in the video, the power difference is not that big...
@Jazzcat1980Rip
@Jazzcat1980Rip Жыл бұрын
Jason, I have a Festool dust extract, plus in 2015 I added on a Dust Right Separator. Replacing filter bags dropped off greatly. I don’t have a Festool collection like your but I have enough to deal with my needs. Is there a difference with the motors for the various models or is the major change just in capacity. Kevin
@TheTranq
@TheTranq 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a MIDI. Liking it so far. Planning to add the cyclone at some point
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I realized after I released this video that I didn’t even talk about the cyclone 🤦🏼‍♂️
@TheTranq
@TheTranq 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking it was still a good overview!
@nightmarecivic
@nightmarecivic Жыл бұрын
I retired a 12 year old black Friday shop vac for a CT15E for detailing vehicles. All I can say is it's a time saver. Very happy with the suction and build quality
@matthewweerts4517
@matthewweerts4517 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the link to the Highland woodworking comparison?
@davesmulders3931
@davesmulders3931 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Festool vacuums is that they suck, and not in a good way. The whole system is very well thought out, but they clog really really fast and the power is just not sufficient at all. I have been using makita vacuums for the better part of 10 years and they hold up better than my new festools. I own the CTL SYS, the new MIDI and the 36 and they all suffer from the same power deficiency. It gets even worse when you use the cyclone separator which effectively reduces your vacuum to a box that makes noise but nothing else. Even my 10 year old Makita unit works with a plastic cyclone on an oil drum and still is powerful enough to vacuum the floor with or connect powertools to it. In the shop the festools have been fully replaced with the old makitas again, and I must admit I do take the festools on jobs but more often than not I don't spare myself the hassle and take the large makita + oil drum with me on jobs as well as it just gets the job done. Can easily vacuum concrete or fluids with it, or hook up any machine to it. Three things the Festool vacuums struggle with.
@jimdiet8534
@jimdiet8534 2 жыл бұрын
Are you selling Makita because you are a fanboy, or do the Festool vacs lack power?
@andrewdearing5160
@andrewdearing5160 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason - very informative and helped validate my decision to go with my dust extractor. Much appreciated!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@94hockeykid
@94hockeykid 3 жыл бұрын
Well golly, I wanted the CT15 because the Bluetooth isn’t important for the sander and eventually domino, but now I’m not sure
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you aren’t interested in the Bluetooth, I still think it’s a great option.
@larrycurran7005
@larrycurran7005 3 жыл бұрын
I have the CT15 using it with my small power hand tools including a track saw and not having bluetooth has not been an issue. A bigger issue but not big issue, with it is the casters do not lock so it tends to move around when you push the power or manual use buttons since they are on an angled surface. Saying that, it is a great unit and I would buy one again if I need another unit. Thsnks for the review of the different models.
@davidschneider3118
@davidschneider3118 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 ct15s and an old ct33. They all work with the 500 and the xl700 dominos as well as every other tool. What Jason didn’t make clear is that you really don’t need Bluetooth unless you’re using cordless tools. The dust extractors all have auto on/off if you use a corded tool
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
True, however I find it most helpful with just doing clean up tasks. It’s great being able to control it without having to bend over to switch it on or off.
@beverlymccardle4492
@beverlymccardle4492 3 жыл бұрын
Can you later add the Bluetooth to the CT 15?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
No
@Vahan210
@Vahan210 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to worry about capacity if you use venture separator. Your vacuum becomes just a vacuum and all the dust and dust get collected in another bucket. I forgot which one I have of those vacuum.
@doctorrepaintinginc8184
@doctorrepaintinginc8184 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explain the differences!!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@ricknafziger3736
@ricknafziger3736 3 жыл бұрын
I have the CT MIDI I and for the life of me I can’t figure out the sustainer attachment on the unit. I can set the sustainer on the unit but the latches seem to be off by 90 degrees. Anyone have any insight on this?
@Irwhodunit
@Irwhodunit 3 жыл бұрын
CFM is not a major consideration. So, what is CFM?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
CFM means Cubic Feet per Minute. CFM measures the volume of air in cubic feet for each minute it moves. In the case of an air compressor, CFM indicates how much air can move per minute. For example, an air compressor's output could be rated for 30 CFM, which means 30 cubic feet of air is flowing per minute.
@Irwhodunit
@Irwhodunit 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking I kind of guessed at what it stood for but thanks for putting CFM into perspective for me. I recently used an air compressor for the first time and recall setting up a CFM for output. Just FYI, I'm sending pictures of my ETS 125 and Midi extractor to friends the way normal people send pictures of pets. I love them.
@edwinghysebrechts9377
@edwinghysebrechts9377 3 жыл бұрын
Can you fit the 36mm hose on a midi?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@larryterhaar6576
@larryterhaar6576 Жыл бұрын
Does the new generation mini have self-cleaning?
@arc.handyman1905
@arc.handyman1905 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this concise and clear breakdown!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@chrismyres8106
@chrismyres8106 3 жыл бұрын
Do any of these DE units work with stationary tools such as a cabinet table saw or miter saw?
@chrismyres8106
@chrismyres8106 3 жыл бұрын
Or are they meant for handheld power tools?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Larger stationary tools are meant to be hooked up to a larger dust collector as they typically required a much higher CFM to be effective. Dust extractors and shop vacs aren’t meant for that. Can you hook them up somehow? Yes. Are they going to be super effective? No.
@markoddo9414
@markoddo9414 3 жыл бұрын
Oneida makes a system that works well for both high cfm tools like a table saw/bandsaw but also low cfm/high pressure needs like handheld tools - seems to work well from the reviews but it is pricey.
@brianrussell7691
@brianrussell7691 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent primer on the whole line of Festool’s dust extractors. Well done.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to enjoyed it!
@CisnerosShop
@CisnerosShop Жыл бұрын
Where do we find the manufacture date on a ct midi?
@vivalasexy
@vivalasexy 6 ай бұрын
Do you think a Festool is a suitable vacuums for an electrician? I had a Makita which was a lemon out the box and am considering just going to one of these. Seems like more of a shop vacuum but don't see why not at the same time
@bozhidarmitrev7565
@bozhidarmitrev7565 Жыл бұрын
Can I use the midi model for planex or not.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Probably but definitely not the best tool for the job. I would want the auto clean feature
@bozhidarmitrev7565
@bozhidarmitrev7565 Жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Thank you buddy
@johnb8807
@johnb8807 2 жыл бұрын
Informative video, thanks!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@adama1294
@adama1294 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, no. I will just buy a normal dust extractor at a fraction of the price since I work in a workshop. These are only for on the go dust extraction for gigs.
@julianweiser9985
@julianweiser9985 3 жыл бұрын
it ultimately goes down to : Do you want to support china? Yes/No
@johnh8952
@johnh8952 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Thank you Jason!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@RPDCH1
@RPDCH1 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for........many thanks.
@Tdog500
@Tdog500 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video and all the great info!
@nickcosh5947
@nickcosh5947 Жыл бұрын
Perfect video exactly what I wanted to hear thank you
@baba_babaa2
@baba_babaa2 Жыл бұрын
what about a cyclone, is it needed?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Not needed but has it benefits
@baba_babaa2
@baba_babaa2 Жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking I bought it and yes I can see exactly what you mean, if it's super fine probably a cyclone can help with less time/money on bags. you're the best thank you so much for your honesty and awesome videos!
@carguy1312
@carguy1312 Жыл бұрын
Great info, thank you!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Southpoint2019
@Southpoint2019 3 жыл бұрын
Which is best for raking out for pointing ?
@diegaulle9143
@diegaulle9143 2 жыл бұрын
The BT-bracelet is great. You can also pair the vacuum with the BT-batteries though.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely great to have
@paulhimaya1447
@paulhimaya1447 Жыл бұрын
Do you need the $45 blue tooth button add on if you are using the Festool bluetooth batteries with your tool? Won't the Festool Bluetooth Batteries tell the dust extractor to turn on when the battery is activated ?
@diegaulle9143
@diegaulle9143 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhimaya1447 Yes they will.
@4dchessplayer516
@4dchessplayer516 3 жыл бұрын
The guy that is wearing a 200.00 hoodie
@chippychippy8291
@chippychippy8291 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason, appreciate it. Stay safe.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@jpesce23ful
@jpesce23ful 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative. Thank you!
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