Beretta 92.

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Ahoy

Ahoy

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Last episode: Arctic Warfare. • Arctic Warfare.
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A history of the Beretta M9 and a cultural context within games.
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@c-secofficer123
@c-secofficer123 5 жыл бұрын
“Doesn’t show off, just shows up.. and gets the job done” God I love this guy
@squanguslobotomus7890
@squanguslobotomus7890 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@hannn272
@hannn272 4 жыл бұрын
C-Sec Officer 123 min.
@lmlagg
@lmlagg 4 жыл бұрын
This man can make anything sound badass
@Pineapple-co6fe
@Pineapple-co6fe 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched all of these videos from him.
@bachychipsd8932
@bachychipsd8932 4 жыл бұрын
Yah same
@weakestlink20
@weakestlink20 8 жыл бұрын
490 years in business... Almost a surreal number. Proves that the truth can be stranger than the fiction.
@shoraz
@shoraz 8 жыл бұрын
weakestlink20 How did they survive all the wars? I always get interested in this sort of companies.
@weakestlink20
@weakestlink20 8 жыл бұрын
Oreo Lane That I cannot accurately explain.
@KoeSeer
@KoeSeer 7 жыл бұрын
if you think 5 centuries and still in business is crazy, Japan has construction company since 578 AD named Kongō Gumi, and hotel named Nishiyama Onsen Keiunkan founded in 705 AD. Britain has The Bingley Arms, dubbed "the oldest pub in Britain", founded in 900 AD.
@weakestlink20
@weakestlink20 7 жыл бұрын
KoeSeer Sounds cool.
@wanderingwobb6300
@wanderingwobb6300 7 жыл бұрын
Stella Artois has been around since the 1300s IIRC
@leljdam3189
@leljdam3189 5 жыл бұрын
*_"MISTA, WE CAN'T RELOAD THAT BERRETA AS FAST AS YOUR REVOLVER"_*
@bruhdestroyer3051
@bruhdestroyer3051 4 жыл бұрын
Lel Jdam didn't expect a jojo reference here
@SerHoratio
@SerHoratio 4 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdestroyer3051 a suprise to be sure...but a welcome one
@alejandroespinoza5680
@alejandroespinoza5680 4 жыл бұрын
Mista's revolver is likely a smith & wesson snub nose revolver.
@mop9507
@mop9507 4 жыл бұрын
i never understood why mista didnt use a fucken semiautomatic..
@FDReiter
@FDReiter 4 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroespinoza5680 yeah, S&W Model 38 to be precise
@DJScootagroov
@DJScootagroov 8 жыл бұрын
"What is better 9mm or 45acp?" Oh my friend you just started a flame war.
@professionalmemeenthusiast2117
@professionalmemeenthusiast2117 7 жыл бұрын
Bigpapaj 1971 In all seriousness, the 5.7mm is better. Even lower recoil than 9mm, size allows for high capacity magazines, high velocity and better performance against body armour than 9mm or 45 ACP.
@DC-ru5xz
@DC-ru5xz 7 жыл бұрын
Digiquill 500 Fucking Magnum
@TheOnyxGeneral
@TheOnyxGeneral 7 жыл бұрын
A SIG in .40 s&w, so you can covert easily to .357 sig. Two amazing rounds that each are superior to the .45ACP and the 9mmp
@Unreelme
@Unreelme 7 жыл бұрын
naw man 10mm is the semi auto of choice if you can hang. More capacity and power up to .357 levels.
@araknidude
@araknidude 7 жыл бұрын
.40 S&W is best. *insert le triggered commenters*
@Taeil0151
@Taeil0151 8 жыл бұрын
Beretta was making guns since 1526? That's a year before Machiavelli's death!
@papabonito310
@papabonito310 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, SEEMS LEGIT.
@ootdega
@ootdega 5 жыл бұрын
@@papabonito310 It is legit.
@marziopallini9787
@marziopallini9787 5 жыл бұрын
He was a great supporter of classical war techniques too... So you could say firearms litterally buried him
@ironphoenix5145
@ironphoenix5145 4 жыл бұрын
It staggers the imagination that they have been in business for that long and that they are still family owned.
@zombies4evadude24
@zombies4evadude24 4 жыл бұрын
His end justified its means
@diegorauda4637
@diegorauda4637 4 жыл бұрын
“Not for showing off, just for showing up” damn that’s one hell of a line
@SimplyDuker
@SimplyDuker Жыл бұрын
And getting the jobs done.
@49mozzer
@49mozzer 8 жыл бұрын
Pistols don't win wars but they have started a few. EDIT: Well this sure blew up but can people stop commenting the same thing? Yes I was referencing the assassination of Franz Ferdinand which kicked off WW1. You don't need to keep saying that when 30 other people have already said that before you.
@marlonhassell8271
@marlonhassell8271 8 жыл бұрын
yup
@Prowbar
@Prowbar 8 жыл бұрын
Well said. Well said.
@AtomicBlastPony
@AtomicBlastPony 8 жыл бұрын
Yea, flawless logic. Guns kill people, spoons make them fat.
@GATHUGHDxD
@GATHUGHDxD 8 жыл бұрын
what
@exoscodmontage5656
@exoscodmontage5656 8 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that
@loulimibarney3435
@loulimibarney3435 8 жыл бұрын
"By 1990, the M1911 was starting to show its age" "The M1911, the pistol that forgot to become obsolete"
@dutchvanderlinde9211
@dutchvanderlinde9211 8 жыл бұрын
How was it showing it's age before it was even designed.
@FarhanNahin
@FarhanNahin 5 жыл бұрын
Future Jarhead 3:25 no he said 1980, the guy just made a typo lol
@MyBlackandRedCZ
@MyBlackandRedCZ 5 жыл бұрын
I think what he meant was that the pistol started showing its age according to the chain of command in the US Army. They thought the pistol was no longer useful. But after the 1911 was replaced, it became more popular than ever in the civilian market which kept its stride going.
@dylanmcnab2980
@dylanmcnab2980 4 жыл бұрын
the m1911 wasn't top of the line anymore, but it was by no means obsolete quite yet, just not as good baretta
@granpappytom5540
@granpappytom5540 4 жыл бұрын
Old doesnt mean obsolete
@twotailedavenger
@twotailedavenger 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny, the story of some weapons in US inventory. The FN Mag machine gun got beaten by the M60, but then came back to replace it. Sig Sauer lost to Beretta in the 80s, but just recently, a variant of the 226 was chosen to replace the M9. Well, I guess if at first you don't succeed...
@lewhanwen4302
@lewhanwen4302 5 жыл бұрын
And now Sig has both pistol contracts.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 4 жыл бұрын
The P320 has little relationship to the P226. It's based on the P250 and it has a striker instead of a hammer, like a Glock.
@el-massy
@el-massy 4 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, even the M16 had a similar story. After the Korean War, the M14 was chosen instead of the ar10, the prototype of what later became the ar15(the M16 and later the M4), but the US Army quickly realized how poorly the M14 was performing in the jungles of Vietnam. So that's why they replaced their main battle rifle again, and this time the ar10 won.
@mutilator97
@mutilator97 4 жыл бұрын
The p320 isn't a variant of the 226. It's a completely different gun. Striker fired, polymer frame, made to be as modular as possible, NOT DROP SAFE. Wait, what?
@Predator20357
@Predator20357 4 жыл бұрын
Maxi From IT mostly the AR-15, the AR-10 would mostly just be for Civilian use while M14 was used for dmr.
@SkipsPro
@SkipsPro 10 жыл бұрын
the production values in these videos is fucking ridiculous, this video seems like it was made by a professional studio of people instead of one guy
@GrazerMagic
@GrazerMagic 10 жыл бұрын
It's a professional Stu-dio of one guy.
@Nighthawk0416
@Nighthawk0416 10 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@Mi2Lethal
@Mi2Lethal 10 жыл бұрын
He is one of the very few people that actually puts effort and time into his videos.
@00318mario
@00318mario 10 жыл бұрын
That's the magic of editing.
@GrazerMagic
@GrazerMagic 10 жыл бұрын
***** I wouldn't call it 'very few'... I mean, I think *most* popular KZbinrs put at least a modicum of effort and time into their work. Not everyone can be Pewdiepie, and make a living off zero effort.
@ZeroStriker426
@ZeroStriker426 7 жыл бұрын
"always at your side" that last bit in the video just made the whole thing more awesome
@mitchhammond3213
@mitchhammond3213 7 жыл бұрын
ZeroStriker426 like always
@ZeroStriker426
@ZeroStriker426 7 жыл бұрын
my favorite is from the M1911 video. "Antique. Veteran. Patriot."
@krepepost1120
@krepepost1120 5 жыл бұрын
get it? cuz its a sidearm
@calvin.
@calvin. 5 жыл бұрын
Always ON your side***
@bullphr0g489
@bullphr0g489 4 жыл бұрын
and ironic. (World war)
@Bcso591
@Bcso591 7 жыл бұрын
"always on your side" That is not a very italian thing.
@nmperdue4637
@nmperdue4637 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@daddymememaster5432
@daddymememaster5432 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@ale.venosini
@ale.venosini 5 жыл бұрын
I know this joke refer to the world wars, but actually Italian army is the ninth strongest army in the world and, Beretta is one of the most productive gun brands in the world. Our army is divided in 4 major groups that you may have already heard about: 1) 9° reggimento d'assalto paracadutisti "col moschin" (or maybe you've heard Folgore) 2) Gruppo Operativo Incursori 3) 17° Stormo Incursori 4) Gruppo intervento speciale Folgore is really well known in Europe, its name literally mean thunderbolt and as you can imagine they're a paratrooper group.
@Otherfabbros
@Otherfabbros 5 жыл бұрын
Better the American Strategy: Propaganda and friendly fire, mate.
@arcere8116
@arcere8116 5 жыл бұрын
Now that is a blow to the face! Ouch
@threehalfs7150
@threehalfs7150 5 жыл бұрын
Saw 'Faster than reloading' I remembered Gaz saying 'Remember, switching to your pistol is faster than reloading'
@thedank0r162
@thedank0r162 5 жыл бұрын
IchaBoi RIP Gaz
@booqfes4754
@booqfes4754 4 жыл бұрын
KNIFE THE WATERMELON
@maxharter5716
@maxharter5716 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Your fruit killing skills are remarkable. Captain Price wants to see you.
@dangsunnn5131
@dangsunnn5131 4 жыл бұрын
and dunn
@Headgasket-
@Headgasket- 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hadir re-using the “your fruit killing skills are remarkable” line
@kaymarx9677
@kaymarx9677 8 жыл бұрын
You're fighting the Patriarch with dual 9mms. Why are you fighting the Patriarch with dual 9mms.
@DamienDarksideBlog
@DamienDarksideBlog 8 жыл бұрын
He probably level skips on Easy for the videos.
@logoncal3001
@logoncal3001 7 жыл бұрын
Fighting Patriarch with 2 dual 9mms is alright on solo when you're a Sharpshooter. *BUT HES USING THE MEDIC PERK WTF WHAYHWAHEEHDAEDQWEWSBVAI\OSAPOTFGWFRNHQWGJNIO*
@Pootisbird01
@Pootisbird01 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry in CS:GO dual M9s are one of the worst weapons in the game
@cheesychipmunk8382
@cheesychipmunk8382 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry fucking who
@captainbean3114
@captainbean3114 5 жыл бұрын
CHEESY CHIPMUNK Killing Floor boss from the first game
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 3 жыл бұрын
The other reason Berettas are so popular in movies (besides the sexy shape and large frame) is because they are easier to convert to fire blanks: The action of the pistol uses a falling block instead of a tilting barrel, so you can modify the barrel to fire blanks with perfect semi-automatic reliability.
@somebody7641
@somebody7641 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know that
@JoroJojoro
@JoroJojoro 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not that into guns, and I know very little about them, but gosh fucking damn! These videos are entertaining and actually make me want to learn way more about guns. Amazing videos with awesome production, keep at it!
@badkluster
@badkluster 9 жыл бұрын
JoroJojoro I feel the same. There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge.
@JoroJojoro
@JoroJojoro 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Camel Uh... sure? Any objections I should be aware of?
@JoroJojoro
@JoroJojoro 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Camel Oh. Never mind that. I'm not a native English speaker, so when it comes to swearing, I go all over the place and have no idea what is an actual swear and what isn't exactly a full blown swear, so I mix them up in bizarre ways. You're not the first to comment on me saying "gosh", but now I finally understand why people sometimes find it weird.
@flippedoutkyrii
@flippedoutkyrii 8 жыл бұрын
+JoroJojoro Haha, you sound like Wyatt from Wolfenstein : The New Order, because he too said 'Gosh', although it was because he didn't want to take the lords name in vain, that is until Blazko destroyed a bridge with a super-weapon and Wyatt just started screaming "OH MY GOD" out of sheer shock and awe.
@youwayo
@youwayo 8 жыл бұрын
He needs to do the Luger
@Saint-14s-Shadow
@Saint-14s-Shadow 3 жыл бұрын
*"9mm kills the body, but .45 ACP kills the soul."*
@gamaactive8278
@gamaactive8278 3 жыл бұрын
Russian Badger quote
@grovstar2000
@grovstar2000 3 жыл бұрын
@Fax Machine The 500 Magnum deletes them from existence.
@wakingthegargoyle359
@wakingthegargoyle359 3 жыл бұрын
“Can’t have them coming back as a Lich”
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@nikhilpant6428
@nikhilpant6428 3 жыл бұрын
M1911 is still the queen
@DarkWizard83
@DarkWizard83 4 жыл бұрын
As far as the 9mm vs 45 debate is concerned, I'll quote a famous fictional Beretta 92 user: "If you can hit your target, pretty much any gun will do."
@user-pn9qp1sr3e
@user-pn9qp1sr3e 8 жыл бұрын
Why weren't the police using M1911 over a revolver?
@spikethompson2000
@spikethompson2000 8 жыл бұрын
Mostly cost. That and old habits die hard.
@logansorenssen
@logansorenssen 8 жыл бұрын
Mainly cost, yeah, though a few police departments *did* use 1911s, and a handful still do.
@paullytle246
@paullytle246 8 жыл бұрын
John Dough revolvers handle just sitting better than automatic pistols
@jakobmartins5027
@jakobmartins5027 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Sprague mm
@cakeee5720
@cakeee5720 6 жыл бұрын
John Dough maybe it looks cooler
@ShinobuSakurazaka
@ShinobuSakurazaka 10 жыл бұрын
The M9 was the first gun I bought back in 2000 when I was 20 and I was moving into my own apartment, I liked the tagline: "When your locks fail, it's trigger WON'T. The M9, army approved". I have a M9 and a Mossberg 590 A1 as my home defence guns, never had to use them for that role and hopefully never will but it's nice to have them just in case. Great video as always Ahoy and I'm loving your new 'Iconic Arms' series :)
@sasugaainssama1873
@sasugaainssama1873 5 жыл бұрын
Switching to pistol is faster than to reload.... And remember, you run faster with a knife
@Ghostface6
@Ghostface6 4 жыл бұрын
Yo what's the sauce for your pfp
@Cardinal8427
@Cardinal8427 4 жыл бұрын
DONT TELL HIM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
@illuminoeye_gaming
@illuminoeye_gaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ghostface6 overlord I think
@raidy5215
@raidy5215 4 жыл бұрын
Your fruit killing skills are remarkable!
@redblade5556
@redblade5556 4 жыл бұрын
But silenter with a blade.
@beyblade71
@beyblade71 8 жыл бұрын
This gun is awesome and it's a shame it doesn't get as much attention as other classics like the glock and M1911
@itscrumbelivable
@itscrumbelivable 8 жыл бұрын
The Beretta is the choice sidearm for much of the world, it gets a lot of attention
@noahdouglas369
@noahdouglas369 4 жыл бұрын
How so, friend?
@borkbork6888
@borkbork6888 4 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have a rust 1911 as the m9 is way to top heavy
@jackvandiver2267
@jackvandiver2267 Жыл бұрын
@@itscrumbelivable I believe he means in pop culture
@itscrumbelivable
@itscrumbelivable Жыл бұрын
@@jackvandiver2267 take a cursory look at its imfdb page, it gets its fair share of appearances.
@FitzgeraldKrox
@FitzgeraldKrox 9 жыл бұрын
Sad that people say it's a bad firearm. I always liked the way it looks.
@miamiwendigo
@miamiwendigo 5 жыл бұрын
I would say its because of Italian since world war two they preety much just lost any prestige and basically lost there son of rome point of view
@ale.venosini
@ale.venosini 5 жыл бұрын
The beretta92 is totally not a bad gun, its great looking, have a really good capacity and it's really reliable, also it has a normal barrel so the shots are more accurate than a cz (for example) with a short barrel.
@robertsimon2885
@robertsimon2885 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are gonna love the Sword Cutlass pistols.
@FireheartSamurai
@FireheartSamurai 4 жыл бұрын
Well here in the US, the reason why the M9 was hated was due to the military using mags that didn’t have a finish for sand resistance, not cleaning the gun, & also not maintaining the gun. The commercial Beretta 92s/92a1s are better than the US issued ones due to law abiding citizens using them & cleaning & maintaining them.
@AnnieC.1993
@AnnieC.1993 4 жыл бұрын
It's not my favorite, but damn does it look good in DOOM
@nicholascauton9648
@nicholascauton9648 3 жыл бұрын
Pistols are blasphemously underrated in video games. Edit: A ubiquitous ally to the M4, nothing could be more true. M4 and M9 was, is, and will always be my favorite combination in any shooter video game.
@kentknightofcaelin4537
@kentknightofcaelin4537 Жыл бұрын
I love pistols in games, lol. I often use them more than rifles.
@theonlyplain
@theonlyplain Жыл бұрын
​@@kentknightofcaelin4537its always a self proposed challenge by players to only use pistols
@nicholascauton9648
@nicholascauton9648 2 ай бұрын
@@theonlyplain I welcome such a challenge every once in a while. But when playing seriously in character, my M4 is used 90% of the time while my M9 is used 10% of the time. Or if I'm out of ammo for my rifle, my pistol is my last line of defense.
@arforafro5523
@arforafro5523 8 жыл бұрын
So much Killing Floor clips brings joy to my heart, theres even a STALKER clip, so its even better!
@miki-we8mg
@miki-we8mg 7 жыл бұрын
get out of here stalker
@randycheow5311
@randycheow5311 7 жыл бұрын
Cheeki breeki
@z-trip5457
@z-trip5457 6 жыл бұрын
Randy Cheow Can I help you?
@sirilluminarthevaliant2895
@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 6 жыл бұрын
Arfor Afro rising storm and red orchestra 2 are better
@mememan2404
@mememan2404 5 жыл бұрын
@@miki-we8mg CYKA BLYAT WESTERN SPY LOCATED
@thomasl1061
@thomasl1061 9 жыл бұрын
One gun is good, but two is WooTastic!
@lencao4515
@lencao4515 9 жыл бұрын
i guess O.o
@imed6259
@imed6259 9 жыл бұрын
nice reference, "Freeman's Mind".
@trannguyenthanhlong3137
@trannguyenthanhlong3137 9 жыл бұрын
Cuz Vavle nerd it :/
@enderblawk5068
@enderblawk5068 7 жыл бұрын
Give a man a gun, and he's Superman. Give him two, and he's God.
@WeasleFireable
@WeasleFireable 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god I've watched die hard like a millions times otherwise I wouldn't know anything about guns!
@mr59lespaul
@mr59lespaul 7 жыл бұрын
Being a proud owner of a 92, I can tell you that these guns are fantastic. I got the 92S, which was an Italian police de-com, but even without the changes made to the FS, it's solid to its core. Shoots the worst steel cased ammo all day long and its accurate til it dies. If you get a used 92S you'll only have to spend about $350 at the highest (as of the time of writing this) and there is basically no better deal out there as far as price/quality.
@camryt
@camryt 10 жыл бұрын
Why are CoD's M9's always so little and thin?
@j4ff4c3ks1
@j4ff4c3ks1 10 жыл бұрын
It is a narrow pistol in reality as well. The wider pistols tend to be chambered for the .45 as it requires a larger barrel
@LIGHTNING278TH
@LIGHTNING278TH 10 жыл бұрын
***** Compared to other 9mm pistols its pretty thick.
@smittywjmj
@smittywjmj 10 жыл бұрын
CoD has issues with weapon scaling. First-person pistol models are usually much too small (that, or the player character has hands the size of frying pans) and third-person rifle models somewhat on the small side as well, particularly for medium-size assault rifles.
@capnscrambles
@capnscrambles 10 жыл бұрын
***** Common misconception! When you get one in your hands, they actually feel pretty beefy.
@Modernww2fare
@Modernww2fare 10 жыл бұрын
***** I own a 92FS airsoft and it's not as narrow as in the MW games. The one from Ghosts looks more like the real one
@ramentaco9179
@ramentaco9179 8 жыл бұрын
The "American Classic" it replaced? That was the Colt 1911 right?
@dutchvanderlinde9211
@dutchvanderlinde9211 8 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 8 жыл бұрын
Sadly yes
@Prowbar
@Prowbar 8 жыл бұрын
Its still in active service as the M45 though. And used by some Special Forces.
@Sgt-lott10
@Sgt-lott10 5 жыл бұрын
Djentleman IT HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED! ( military service is still there for it )
@callmeastaire5700
@callmeastaire5700 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a far better weapon.
@Aaleg
@Aaleg 4 жыл бұрын
M1911: you took everything away from me! Beretta 92: i dont even know who you are!!
@skulldozer1462
@skulldozer1462 3 жыл бұрын
M17: Hi
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 2 жыл бұрын
The exclamation marks kinda ruin, it's cooler when said calmly
@ballsdeep6924
@ballsdeep6924 4 жыл бұрын
Something that was forgotten was that dual m92fs’s make you the most badass pirate ever, capable of destroying the Yellow Flag every time you enter
@simonium8123
@simonium8123 Жыл бұрын
was waiting for someone to reference black lagoon
@brendanmatelan2129
@brendanmatelan2129 8 жыл бұрын
Slight error, the Beretta M9/M92 is made of Aluminum rather than steel. Done to obviously lighten the pistol and provide some corrosion resistance.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 Жыл бұрын
This gun is your starting best friend when exploring a zombie filled mansion in the mountains that has an underground bio-organic weapon development lab...
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx 10 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, the M9 or Beretta 92 is one of the many classic pistols known to the world, both in movies, gaming, and reality. I remember me, my brothers, my father, and my cousins tried out the M9 since one of them had it as a sidearm in the police force after dove hunting. We saw these empty beer bottles, so we decided to use them as target practice. Finally, I got to try out the pistol and...man it had a lot of recoil. I was definitely astounded how much power the M9 has in real life instead of in gaming.
@ChrisHenGaming
@ChrisHenGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Thats with every weapon, you cant make out how a weapon is out of games.
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's true :/
@LegionEmu396
@LegionEmu396 10 жыл бұрын
Well its only a 9mm it shouldn't have too much kick but every gun is different and also I've never shot a m9 maybe its different than most other 9mm
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx
@xXTheHeroicGamerXx 10 жыл бұрын
Well, I think the reason why I thought the M9 had so much recoil is the fact I was fourteen-years old at the time I tried out the pistol. So, basically, I wasn't as sturdy as an usual-sized adult.
@LegionEmu396
@LegionEmu396 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes since
@Elc22
@Elc22 8 жыл бұрын
you might have wanted to state that the p226 actually outperformed the 92fs in testing, but the army chose it because Beretta was willing to allow production on us soil.
@venomsnake5938
@venomsnake5938 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that the Beretta M9/92FS is also an ambidextrous handgun great for both right handed and specially left handed user-friendly.
@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 5 жыл бұрын
Not true u idiot. They were both the same in price and performance. Beretta was cheaper on mags and matainence
@faeruune
@faeruune 5 жыл бұрын
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Don't be a dickhead dickhead
@pat7864
@pat7864 5 жыл бұрын
@@faeruune pretty salty over there huh?
@martinator9480
@martinator9480 5 жыл бұрын
And if you look to the right you'll see... bunch of weapon experts.
@listenherejack
@listenherejack 3 жыл бұрын
Distinctly remember this being my most used weapon on BF4. I cycled through primary weapons in short bursts, but the M9 was always the best sidearm imo.
@askacapper
@askacapper 10 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on the mini-gun that would be awesome.
@thepigmaster8193
@thepigmaster8193 10 жыл бұрын
Or the classic gatling gun :D
@whosmrbubbles
@whosmrbubbles 10 жыл бұрын
Thepigmaster How about both?
@thepigmaster8193
@thepigmaster8193 10 жыл бұрын
"Why not both?" *everyone picks up that girl*
@LegionEmu396
@LegionEmu396 10 жыл бұрын
*mini gun a mini gun isn't really a weapon or an official class of weapon I don't think. There are lots well not lots but more than one kind of weapon like you would think of the mini gun any thing with multiple barrels and shoots at a high rate of fire now to Thepigmaster the gatling gun was a real thing
@thepigmaster8193
@thepigmaster8193 10 жыл бұрын
noshit
@GoodFriendsForever
@GoodFriendsForever 10 жыл бұрын
These videos are alot better than those awful titanfall weapon guides
@user-zg2tx5ww3n
@user-zg2tx5ww3n 10 жыл бұрын
Eww no
@colonelwilkins6799
@colonelwilkins6799 10 жыл бұрын
it means that Stu's Titanfall vids are awful?
@XboxAhoy
@XboxAhoy 10 жыл бұрын
They were the best damn Titanfall vids out there.
@nicolasanguilano3075
@nicolasanguilano3075 10 жыл бұрын
Ahoy I appreciated them.
@uuuultra
@uuuultra 10 жыл бұрын
titanfall was a failure of a game destiny as well
@toasterking3113
@toasterking3113 5 жыл бұрын
I own 2 M9s. And so far they haven't let down. With the time I used it in the Army to this day. They are amazing
@BiTechGaming
@BiTechGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Stu, it seems like the iconic arms weapon series have been very popular to this date. Hopefully you will continue this series.
@XboxAhoy
@XboxAhoy 10 жыл бұрын
This is a run of 6 episodes, after which I'll be doing some other stuff - but Iconic Arms will return.
@BiTechGaming
@BiTechGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing. BTW, do you still read questions for your bonus episode from the previous bonus episodes?
@XboxAhoy
@XboxAhoy 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, I take all questions from the previous episode.
@alejandrocaudillo2993
@alejandrocaudillo2993 Жыл бұрын
The Beretta M9 / 92 / 92FS series will always be my favorite 9mm handgun I love the gun it’s because resident evil remake I’m here because of this gun in my opinion, the Beretta, it’s easy, one of my favorite handguns next to 1911 45 ACP with longer Beavertail
@trapical
@trapical 4 жыл бұрын
I once held a Beretta M9. It's so incredibly comfortable in the hand, it fits like a glove and has the perfect weight. Haven't encountered another gun quite as natural as the M9.
@ReapingRose115
@ReapingRose115 8 жыл бұрын
While I think the switch from .45 to 9mm wasn't a bad thing, the M9 as the particular choice for a sidearm did irk me a little. In a normal urban environment, it'd work fine, but in very dusty environments, the open top slide really could prove a problem. I love the M9, don't get me wrong, it's just that I believe a 9mm Glock or even a 9mm 1911 would've made the difference
@gassedjohansen2478
@gassedjohansen2478 8 жыл бұрын
9mm is a tier higher is terms of penetration too. There's a reason why there's no such thing as a true .45 Armor Piercing cartridge while there's many for the 9mm. .45 is too fat and it's effective range way too short.
@yeentem1570
@yeentem1570 8 жыл бұрын
The open top design helps it clear debris during cycling.
@RobotRock25Q
@RobotRock25Q 8 жыл бұрын
however over-penetration proves a big problem in terms of Home Defense
@gassedjohansen2478
@gassedjohansen2478 8 жыл бұрын
Robot Rock Yeah i like .45 more for personal defense, since your average home invader is going to come prepped for a firefight
@Furko08
@Furko08 8 жыл бұрын
+Robot Rock how about hollow points?
@johnnymatias3027
@johnnymatias3027 2 жыл бұрын
The Beretta 92 is the closest gun I've ever seen to being of an almost Baroque design style. That it comes from Italy is fitting. It fights for best looking handgun ever made in my head with 1911s and the CZ75.
@SloppyMcFloppy1029
@SloppyMcFloppy1029 Жыл бұрын
"Almost infinite ammo" Five Seven: "hold my clip"
@julesdauphin2946
@julesdauphin2946 3 жыл бұрын
"which is better, 9mm or 45 ACP?" my little sister: deagle!
@cb41503
@cb41503 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, your sister is thinking right
@whenthemusicsover6028
@whenthemusicsover6028 4 жыл бұрын
"A handgun cannot match the accuracy or range of a rifle." *Laughs in Mordecai*
@teoborges3949
@teoborges3949 3 жыл бұрын
@Maximilian Bien Sniper berd of course
@iswearimworking6662
@iswearimworking6662 Жыл бұрын
The 92FS has been my EDC for 8 years, absolutely love this gun.
@Greyspecies9999
@Greyspecies9999 7 жыл бұрын
"1526" >in around 9 years it will be their 500th anniversay Oh jesus christ.
@CErra310
@CErra310 3 жыл бұрын
Time's flying
@cb41503
@cb41503 2 жыл бұрын
To think barreta is 250 years older than the US is insane
@allo3573
@allo3573 6 ай бұрын
@@cb41503 yea, its founder was born 2 years before the discovery of America...
@wales2k4747
@wales2k4747 7 жыл бұрын
1:06 the best SMG in Battlefield 1.
@twilightzone39
@twilightzone39 7 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much. They're like mini documentaries about specific guns that we all know and love. They're very informative and I love learning new things about these guns that I thought I knew everything about.
@recliff
@recliff 10 жыл бұрын
I can imagine Stu saying "Here's some battlefield 3/4 content, are you happy now?"
@radicamooselimb
@radicamooselimb 10 жыл бұрын
Trapped in the closet: "Than I pull put my Beretta!" (Facepalm) R. Kelly, dude, it's a 1911...
@stuckonaslide
@stuckonaslide 6 жыл бұрын
5:18 Five-Seven, P250 and Tec-9 in unison: Hold my beer.
@JoMiMi_h
@JoMiMi_h 5 жыл бұрын
Kolibri wants to: K N O W Y O U R L O C A T I O N
@defcon_zero5268
@defcon_zero5268 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoMiMi_h Desert Eagle, wants to know your location
@Pootisman2112
@Pootisman2112 9 жыл бұрын
What an incredible little handgun. I own one myself, smooth trigger pull, easy to field strip and clean, accurate, fun to shoot all around, although I love all my .45s, I love this gun.
@TheKillerDonuts
@TheKillerDonuts 10 жыл бұрын
Not loading for me :( EDIT: Just turn off the captions if the video isn't working.
@TheKillerDonuts
@TheKillerDonuts 10 жыл бұрын
I think i just had to turn off the captioning, it's working now.
@cutter5744
@cutter5744 10 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@TheKillerDonuts
@TheKillerDonuts 10 жыл бұрын
Marcelo Gurini If captions are on, turn them off.
@cutter5744
@cutter5744 10 жыл бұрын
TheKillerDonuts Thanks!
@zackrobot
@zackrobot 10 жыл бұрын
Same for me :P But i realized i just have to turn the captions off :P
@Randoman590
@Randoman590 3 жыл бұрын
"It makes a bold statement, but is never brash. Just a regular handgun. No showing off, just showing up - and getting the job done." So the polar opposite philosophy to the Desert Eagle, then.
@corryjamieson3909
@corryjamieson3909 3 жыл бұрын
Game balance purposes
@Lieutenant1999
@Lieutenant1999 10 жыл бұрын
Fieri della nostra grandissima arma :D
@wattenesh
@wattenesh 5 жыл бұрын
🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@vyke2107
@vyke2107 5 жыл бұрын
Uh si?
@vyke2107
@vyke2107 5 жыл бұрын
No Hablo English?
@samuraiwarrior9643
@samuraiwarrior9643 5 жыл бұрын
Si
@samuraiwarrior9643
@samuraiwarrior9643 5 жыл бұрын
@@vyke2107 broooooooooooo!!!!!! We are italian go to other comments
@sasg28
@sasg28 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, pistols have won us a war, WWII when hitler killed himself with one, thus ending the war and the allied forces won
@janiceong7474
@janiceong7474 4 жыл бұрын
WWII in Europe ended , not asia when hitler suicided
@tuongtran4862
@tuongtran4862 4 жыл бұрын
Janice Ong Nukes!!!!!!!!!!!
@pcz1642raz
@pcz1642raz 3 жыл бұрын
Artillery won the second world war
@imperialguardsman5726
@imperialguardsman5726 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't they lose you a war?
@0lionheart
@0lionheart 3 жыл бұрын
@@janiceong7474 plus, the war didn't end with Hitler's suicide. Nazi's still fought on after his death. It was his successor who offered surrender to the Allies, mainly because the Soviets were balls deep inside Berlin at that point.
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 4 жыл бұрын
this video is from 2014... i would never have guessed it, this channel is pure gold
@plur5ever
@plur5ever 3 жыл бұрын
“Nah, its Football Fields per Browning Hi-Power” - TheRussianBadger
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the oh-so-beloved 9mm Sword Cutlass from Revy.
@jackdoe7401
@jackdoe7401 5 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@danieln9226
@danieln9226 Жыл бұрын
Fact : You won't find a pistol related video without the COD quote comment "Switching to your pistol is faster than reloading"
@hasanhaitham276
@hasanhaitham276 3 жыл бұрын
Best looking pistol I've ever held
@LegionEmu396
@LegionEmu396 10 жыл бұрын
Ah its so fun reading comments of people who base all of their knowledge of guns off of first person shooters
@cwassberg
@cwassberg 10 жыл бұрын
I know it makes me laugh
@zephyrm.6564
@zephyrm.6564 2 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure he was gonna say: *"The Beretta 92: Classic Wonder Nine, Reliable, Faster Than Reloading."*
@MrKlashmaster
@MrKlashmaster 4 жыл бұрын
"Not showing off, just showing up." Hits hard.
@Krisztian08
@Krisztian08 4 жыл бұрын
7:37 "No showing off. Just showing up.. And getting the job done." JEEZ that was BADASS
@sebastianlee7571
@sebastianlee7571 3 жыл бұрын
The final line in all of these videos are always the best. "No showing off, just showing up, and getting the job done"
@Pfunkpoet
@Pfunkpoet 4 жыл бұрын
‘And remember switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading’ Gaz modern warfare
@SoloWing88
@SoloWing88 9 жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see Metal Gear on here, as the M9 is one of the better options for Snake and Raiden in the MGS games.
@twotailedavenger
@twotailedavenger 5 жыл бұрын
Kojima's always been a bigger fan of the .45, hence why the M9 was relegated to nonlethal duty in MGS2.
@haineslee
@haineslee 3 жыл бұрын
Chow Yun Fat firing two Beretta 92 is the perfect combination for heroic bloodshed
@jhet672
@jhet672 6 жыл бұрын
I may get hated for this, but i honeslty prefer the M1911 over the M9. Its reliability and history are what make me love the pistol itself
@massineben7198
@massineben7198 6 жыл бұрын
I hate you 😅
@jhet672
@jhet672 6 жыл бұрын
Oh... XD
@chaotic_inhumanity6655
@chaotic_inhumanity6655 6 жыл бұрын
Dat potato yeah but it caliber can’t compete with the penetration of the 9mm
@Sgt-lott10
@Sgt-lott10 5 жыл бұрын
Logan theemoji I agree 100%
@callmeastaire5700
@callmeastaire5700 5 жыл бұрын
BingChinglerAirsoft welcome to the 5.7. Also, I’d grab a .45 FMJ over any 9 any day.
@Kardia_of_Rhodes
@Kardia_of_Rhodes 5 жыл бұрын
"Pistols don't win wars." Tell that to the Webley.
@mutilator97
@mutilator97 4 жыл бұрын
*laughs in 1911*
@kamikaze6198
@kamikaze6198 3 жыл бұрын
Laugh in flintlock
@buildawall5803
@buildawall5803 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamikaze6198 laughs in Colt Navy civil war
@minidiamantl5462
@minidiamantl5462 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, since I first started seeing the beretta 92, I understood the concept of liking guns and having a favorite one. (I've never seen one in real though)
@frycopy2746
@frycopy2746 7 жыл бұрын
"it makes a bold statement, but never brash" AAAAAA IS SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
@lostwojak2554
@lostwojak2554 Жыл бұрын
8 years ago? Fuckin hell...
@hexacockadrom_7898
@hexacockadrom_7898 Жыл бұрын
"Give a guy a gun, and he's Superman. Give him two, and he's God!"
@mooneyes2k478
@mooneyes2k478 9 жыл бұрын
"Wonder Nine", term coined by firearms author Robert T. Shimek, for those that don't know, and including the aforementioned guns, as well as the MAB PA-15, Heckler & Koch VP70, Smith & Wesson Model 59, and Steyr GB. Loss in stopping power? Yeah...basic physics is not something that the .45ACP proponents care much about. And, the guns carried by Tequila, among others, in Hard Boiled, are almost to a scene Taurus PT92s, though the boat scene does feature a Beretta.
@mistaksweremade
@mistaksweremade 8 жыл бұрын
+MoonEyes2k PT-92's are literally Beretta 92's, made on Beretta machines, with Taurus markings and cheaper materials. Bit unfortunate really. It isn't really worth noting, or worth skipping given the influence of John Woo's films.
@mooneyes2k478
@mooneyes2k478 8 жыл бұрын
MistakswereMade Well, the Taurus guns are based on the 92, but has been modified. In the beginning, though, they were extremely similar, yes.
@mistaksweremade
@mistaksweremade 8 жыл бұрын
***** The PT92's in Hard Boiled are literal M92's made on Beretta machines. The machines were just Taurus branded when Beretta ended their contract with the Brazilian government.
@jeffneinenstein5923
@jeffneinenstein5923 4 жыл бұрын
In 2017, the US chose the SIG-Sauer P320, designated as the M17 (full size) and M18 (compact version), to replace the M9. It has a higher capacity (17 or 21 instead of 15 or 17), better accuracy, and better ergonomics. The Army plans to have all of its units equipped with the P320 within a decade. Here’s a Wikipedia link for the P320: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P320, and here’s one for the M17/M18: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_M17.
@jessen600
@jessen600 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget this was the starting pistol in Resident Evil 1. I actually bought an M9 a few months back and I have fun with it at the gun range.
@trashymacgarbage
@trashymacgarbage 6 жыл бұрын
The Beretta M1938 ( 1:10 ) is also know as the Orso which is Italian for bear. Thought I'd just point that out.
@Platinphonix
@Platinphonix 8 жыл бұрын
Yuhuuuu, c'è un pezzo di Italia nei videogiochi! XD
@stefanoartuso001
@stefanoartuso001 8 жыл бұрын
vero
@biggamer349soldier6
@biggamer349soldier6 8 жыл бұрын
su Black ops 2 c e la b23r sarebbe la nostra Beretta 23 raffica
@stefanoartuso001
@stefanoartuso001 8 жыл бұрын
c'è anche su battlefield e si chiama 93r
@mrbirdita5733
@mrbirdita5733 7 жыл бұрын
L'ARX 160 e lo Spas12
@araknidude
@araknidude 7 жыл бұрын
lol I don't speak italian
@Genrevideos
@Genrevideos 4 жыл бұрын
6 years from now, Beretta will be 500 years old as a company. Let that sink in....
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 4 жыл бұрын
Good lord. 500 years of existence.
@benjamindanielsen5204
@benjamindanielsen5204 6 жыл бұрын
I personally don't like the open slide design on the 92, as US military experience has shown, it easily allows dust and other debris to jam the action, and I'm also not a fan of the slide mounted safety, it makes it very easy to accidentally actuate it while chambering a round. I still think we should have adopted the P226, it's overall a much better better pistol with a very proven track record with the Navy seals, and another advantage is that it's also available in multiple other calibers such as .40 S&W and .357 Sig.
@Kat-Kobold
@Kat-Kobold 5 жыл бұрын
the full package of the M9 was cheaper overall, though, so they went for it 'cause muh capitalism
@JoMiMi_h
@JoMiMi_h 5 жыл бұрын
@Master Rhan107 too late the p320 is replacing the m9
@mutilator97
@mutilator97 4 жыл бұрын
The open slide design actually doesn't provide for a whole lot of issues, actually. Watch MAC's torture test. The gun did pretty damn well. As for actuating the safety during manipulation, yeah. Beretta knew about that issue 30 years ago, and fixed it on the civilian models. The military models, however, were apparently never supposed to get updates like that(don't ask why, I don't know). Personally, if I were to get a 9mm full size pistol, it would probably be a toss up between the beretta m9a3 and the Sig P226(take that as you will for quality of both). However, I'm a .45 guy. So I go for the FN FNX-45. And a 1911 of course.
@brutallyhonest8601
@brutallyhonest8601 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: 9mm vs 45 ACP Me: “A GUN IS A GUN.”
@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411
@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411 Жыл бұрын
The 92 is still a viable choice for a carry/duty gun. They're well made, reliable, and they shoot well. I have a Beretta 92X Performance. Best gun I've ever owned.
@Thechicagoted
@Thechicagoted 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just peeved that he didn’t even include a picture of the “Samurai Edge” M9 from Resident Evil
@hero_3088
@hero_3088 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Albert 01R
@maxschaeffner9005
@maxschaeffner9005 8 жыл бұрын
the main complaint from veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan isn't the guns durability, which is good, but the low power of 9mm. the the fact that pistols in modern warfare are only meant for last ditch personal defense, .45 is much better since it has a much better chance of putting an enemy down in one shot, rather than multiple with 9mm. that being said, 9mm does seem much more feasible and appropriate for law enforcement and security purposes.
@adamc3210
@adamc3210 7 жыл бұрын
This guy can talk about anything in the world, even stuff I don't really care about, but I would still listen. (:
@FAIZAFEI
@FAIZAFEI 3 жыл бұрын
Pistols don't win wars, Italian too
@squarewave808
@squarewave808 Жыл бұрын
4:30 The 92 isn’t actually all steel, the frame is aluminum alloy…or aluminium if you prefer 😀
@TheReaper126
@TheReaper126 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion one of the best and iconic guns of all time
@jonowee
@jonowee 10 жыл бұрын
Ahoy Going on the .45 vs 9mm debate; is the P90 and its armour penetrating PDW cousins too new to considered for an episode of Iconic Arms?
@XboxAhoy
@XboxAhoy 10 жыл бұрын
I'd say the P90 would make for a good episode. It's certainly distinctive.
@Avalon304
@Avalon304 10 жыл бұрын
Ahoy I want to see a P90 episode... maybe for season 2?
@CJSowry
@CJSowry 10 жыл бұрын
Def do P90. Made its mark in films/TV and games. Also possibly discus how if differs from its real life counter-part. It does annoy me how much it gets nurfed due to "balancing". BUT with a 50 bullet Magazine firing at 900rpm and able to pierce Kevlar Body Armour it is a tad over powered. lol
@Lonewolf6565
@Lonewolf6565 9 жыл бұрын
5.7 has been found to perform similar to .22 Magnum. Its also expensive compared to other Nato standardized rounds. The .45acp vs 9mm debate is also played out do death. .45acp performs better than 9mm in military service where hollowpoint ammunition is banned. Where it isnt 9mm performs just as well with twice the capacity.
@ArhamAli-ke4ss
@ArhamAli-ke4ss 7 жыл бұрын
jonowee I know its 2 years in the future but u got ur p90 episode lol
@halcon1017
@halcon1017 10 жыл бұрын
If you think it is a good idea, maybe talk about the origins of .50 cal rifles like the Barret.
@bigge1495
@bigge1495 10 жыл бұрын
Lol it's a Barrett M82A1. BTW I know you mean .50 BMG but .50 Cal is too vague for it can mean .50 Beowulf Keep your .50 BMG in your machine guns.
@farryn874
@farryn874 3 жыл бұрын
God, I loved wrecking shop with the M9 in Battlefield 4. Very well rounded weapon for quickly taking out a target or two
@Bluboy511
@Bluboy511 8 жыл бұрын
my dad uses this gun when he is on duty. he taught me how to use it.
@ncblizzard1527
@ncblizzard1527 8 жыл бұрын
And that's how you shot your best friend by accident.
@henryohare732
@henryohare732 7 жыл бұрын
also just because he said his dad taught him doesn't mean hes a little kid, adults have parents too :p
@Bluboy511
@Bluboy511 7 жыл бұрын
Henry O'Hare I am 17
@mauricemeerts3336
@mauricemeerts3336 7 жыл бұрын
sans what are you doing here ?????????....also since when do you know how to shoot mate?
@Bluboy511
@Bluboy511 7 жыл бұрын
I am a real person pretending to be sans and can shoot
@milkdrinker7
@milkdrinker7 8 жыл бұрын
0:50 ok clarkson...
@alfatazer_8991
@alfatazer_8991 8 жыл бұрын
No, you've got to say it right! _"In the wooorld..."_
@Guy.B
@Guy.B 4 жыл бұрын
"This is the best car *Pause* in the world!"
@mercentperrault
@mercentperrault 4 жыл бұрын
5:45 “Switching to a pistol is faster than reloading”. I cannot stress this sentence enough and also the fact how many good guys have fallen in combat because they ignored this sentence.
@deanc91
@deanc91 4 жыл бұрын
Almost nobody because combat troops for the most part don't carry pistols, because pistols are almost never used in combat when you have a rifle, and if you have a rifle, you're going to be engaging people at several hundred yards, with buddies around, and if you're doing CQB, you're going to be doing tactical reloads when you can, and you're not gonna be running into a room Call of Duty style, going full auto, and running out of ammunition.
@mercentperrault
@mercentperrault 4 жыл бұрын
@@deanc91 FYI, I was referring to video games. But thanks for your insight as well. It makes sense as to why anyone would go for a sidearm when they have their rifle right with them.
@Vitz_atelier
@Vitz_atelier 8 жыл бұрын
Killing Floor's version of this gun is simply the worst I ever seen in fps games. The recoil this weapon has in that game is just idiotic.
@joelbns
@joelbns 8 жыл бұрын
+[Vitz!] Killing floor 2 or 1?
@Vitz_atelier
@Vitz_atelier 8 жыл бұрын
Since I didn't play KF2, then 1.
@joelbns
@joelbns 8 жыл бұрын
[Vitz!] What do you think is wrong with the recoil exactly? It seems fairly realistic to me.
@Vitz_atelier
@Vitz_atelier 8 жыл бұрын
I think it should be a lot more precise. That's all, to be honest.
@sowwers1409
@sowwers1409 8 жыл бұрын
+[Vitz!] I prefer more recoil, it requires more skill
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