Learning to Ski: Carving skiing lesson - bergfex.com

Bergfex-Clip for learning how to carve | Austrian state-approved skiing instructor. More Videos under: www.bergfex.at/...

[@AtsitsaGoWest]

Excellent video. Clear explanations and great cinematography.

[@geniusmarcsays2434]

thank you thank you thank you, the best ski video ever

[@jamesdunn9714]

The extension at the top of the turn works but and is good to know as are all skiing moves, however the most modern technique involves starting the turn from a flexed position and simply rolling the feet and and ankles to release the edges.

[@JB91710]

Yep! You are a great Follower, but Thinking is something you lack. "Flexed Position" doesn't TEACH people to do anything. Put your boots on and try to roll your feet and ankles over. If you focus on just that, you will end up standing on the ins9ide foot every time. The exact opposite of what you should be doing.

[@anatoli28]

@@JB91710 i agree..

[@Harloweqbumfuque]

Excellent video....thanks for posting. After twenty five years of hardboot snowboarding I'm trying to learn how to ski. This video is very clear and concise. I'm only on my forth day of sking but have been trying to carve from day one. Each day gets better!

[@petern1063]

My good another counter rotating video. When carving upper body rotation is forbidden !!. It is as simple as that. No wonder some people find it hard learn with all these crazy postures. I even saw a instructor doing hockey stop through the whole turn. LOL Carving is about letting the skis do the work, follow your skis at all time.

[@juancatasus9709]

agreed

[@Андреич-с4н]

From my own experience, learning non-carving parallel turns before carving is counter productive as it is difficult to get rid of parallel turns habits when learning carving. I watched dosens of videos , took couple of on-slope lessons and still could not understand how to get a clean carving. Until I watch a video on ski physics-mechanics. I suddenly realised that I should not try to make a turn! All I need is to angulate the skis and the clean carving turn will result as a by-product. Moreover, the carving turn gets even cleaner if I tried to go streight! So the key is to get maximum ski angulation while maintaining the balance. And when U try to do this, all those professional skiers postures come out natuarally.

[@yiliu4661]

@@Андреич-с4н Thumb up: "So the key is to get maximum ski angulation while maintaining the balance. And when U try to do this, all those professional skiers postures come out natuarally."

[@jamesdunn9714]

Boy are you wrong! Counter rotation is not the same as whole body rotation. Read some books that explain the difference and'or watch some racing videos to understand what you presently do not.

[@hendrikjusmayadi6344]

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[@akasseli]

great video lesson by instructors with great experience & knowledge! thank you!

[@jeffscott7223]

I have a bit of a problem with his upper body movement once he switches to the new outside ski. The new outside ski hasn't come around downhill yet though early edging is occurring but his upper body is turning uphill. This goes a little against a quiet upper body that should be on the whole pointing downhill. Sure his body points downhill once he is well into the turn but to almost twist it uphill at the initiation is quite incorrect.

[@neilhilford1908]

Whatever the theorists say, and there appears to be plenty of ideas, this skier looks to have it all. I'd give a right arm to ski like that. Lito Flores and Harald Harb both talk about phantom edging which begins with the ankle. Lito used to say that one legged skiing wasn't an option, but a MUST. Maybe that was before the modern carve took over.

[@GeroLubovnik]

What is important to understand about phantom edging is that its purpose is the create torque that transfers across the pelvic girdle (the pelvis/hips, whatever you want to call it) to the outside leg and down the to foot. As you may know, the ability to create torqure requires an opposing force. The phantom foot provides that. Where HH and I part company is that I think it is more powerful to keep both skis on the snow, allow pressure to build naturally (created by turn shape, momentum and centipetal force) and keeping your body tracking in the proper lateral position to the skis. This eliminates the needs for over-active upper body countering as it is all done from the hip sockets down. The body can then passively face downhill and be projected downhill as well creating additional opposing force at the hips. I know my response is a little complicated, but just go with the phantom foot concept for now and try it without lifting the inside ski off the snow. Everything should fall into place.

[@neilhilford1908]

GeroLubovnik Yes a most interesting thought thank you. Neil

[@jimidee33]

Very well done video!

[@pedrolek]

Well, I've been skiing for more than 25 years, have seen lots o skiers, good and poor and I can tell you one thing: a really good skier even on most crappy skis will still perform better than an avarage skier on good skis.

[@JB91710]

In the simplest of terms, carving is when you put your upper body back in the fall line as you change your weight from your turning ski to your uphill ski to start the next turn. Think of a bungy cord connected from the top of the hill to the bottom. The cord goes through your chest and you are sliding down it. When you want to make sliding turns, the cord is not tight so your upper body can move to the sides with the skis so you are on top of them and your skis are flatter thus they slide. When you want to make carved turns, the cord is tight. When your skis are making turns from side to side, your upper body has a hard time pulling the cord to the side and that makes the pressure build up in your weighted leg. When you want to start the next turn, you get off the downhill foot and step onto the uphill foot. That turning ski is no longer resisting the pull of the cord and you let it pull you back into the fall line. That movement along with the skis going to the side, puts your legs over at a steep angle and the skis quickly switch edges. 3:00 As his ski make a turn to the left, his chest is pulling that cord to the left also. When he wants to make the next turn, he gets off his right foot and puts his upper body back into the fall line while his skis continue to cross the hill. That makes the legs change angle to the other side and the ski change edges and turn. You can also see it happening at 0:03. As the skis point across the hill, he gets off his left foot and stops his body from going with the skis and puts it back in the fall line. You can also think of it this way. 1. Plant your Right pole down the hill. 2. Take your weight off your Right foot. 3. Lift your right check and set it on the edge of the Right barstool. As your feet go side to side with your skis, you keep your upper body in the fall line and quickly change your weight as you feet pass below you like you are standing on the pedals of a bicycle and pedaling fast. Go to any Reilly video to see a really good demonstration of what I mean.

[@vladimirisaev935]

Отличный видеоурок, спасибо!

[@soleaguirre100]

excellent vid!!! Thanks!!!⭐️👌🏼

[@FirstLast-gs8tt]

It looks so easy but yet it’s not. This guy definitely possesses the carving skills! Just have to keep working it I guess!!

[@benwakefield7885]

You say that you rotate your upper body in the opposite direction of the skis. If you do this you will incline and put weight on your inside ski and you will not be able to carve the ski correctly. The way you get your body to be in the opposite direction of your ski, is to turn with your legs to create the separation between the upper and lower body. At no point do you rotate the body.

[@peperejo10437]

Pour moi a 75 ans ,c'est mon style avec mes skis carbon Rossignol très relax,:le plaisir de la glisse sur toutes les pistes.. et enfin le forfait gratuit... Pépère Jacky

[@mcqueen1981]

Thank you! I'll try this!

[@springflowerangel]

superb instruction of the most easy for the beginner of the carving. Thank you

[@TheBarts27]

Very good video! Thanks.

[@bigdukepod]

Outstanding!!

[@Grejsarn]

Perfect description of a carve

[@993BlueZones]

Yes, as well. Anyway, waiting for snow!

[@Xbox360Rulesz]

This is not completely right. In the video they say that you have to rotate your body in the opposite direction, but the demonstrator is doing that way to extreme, your mountain shoulder only has to be slightly ahead of your downhill shoulder, to still keep enough pressure on your downhill ski you have to have angulation (your hips go towards the mountain while your upper body goes away from the maintain, sideways). Also, there should only be a fore- inwards motion, so there is no going up.

[@celticpridedrums]

Please remember beginners: this is a GS racing turn, not a smooth intermediate parallel style - much too severe for casual, smooth skiing.

[@enri7172]

the best!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Eugeeny87]

cool. Very aducated. Thanks!

[@paco4716]

totaly agree!!

[@bakshishdwauw7963]

very precise and good explanation!!! BUT the skier showing the exercise has a serious problem of hips rotation…which are not supposed to rotate!!!

[@GeroLubovnik]

You must be watching a different video than this one. The skier does not have any "hip rotation". His hips are stable and the femurs are clearly rotating in the hip sockets. How do you think he gets that much angulation? I have other issues with this video, but it is mostly in the EXPLANATION.

[@bakshishdwauw7963]

GeroLubovnik so??if the femurs are rotating in the hips?!? the hips itselfs rotate?? LOL angulation is a movement of all the segment hips/knees/ankles…i dunno if u are a professional ski teacher/instructor or a ski passionate, anyways his hips are rotated man! LOL btw thats clearly caused by the slow speed and the little steep of the slopes...

[@GeroLubovnik]

Bakshish dWaUw Sorry Bakshish. You are seeing it or describing it incorrectly. The hips are required to be stable (at least as stable as can be) to provide that power which the femurs rotate against (for both guiding and edging). Torque is created by opposing forces. If his hips turn IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TURN too much he loses both angulation and power. Both angulation and power are clearly present in his demonstration which proves the point. What creates the stability is the INSIDE SKI turning in the direction of the turn, which causes the torque to travel across the pelvic girdle to the outside leg. Either you're mixing up your terminology for hip rotation or you're clearly not seeing it.

[@GeroLubovnik]

Bakshish dWaUw One more thing... On longer turns the hips will follow a bit more than on shorter turns. This is only natural. It does not mean that his hips are rotating as he is generating loads of torque.

[@bakshishdwauw7963]

GeroLubovnik ur physic explanation is absolutely good and correct…still practice is something else :P don't understand why u talk about internal ski etc. its absolutely correct what u say…still i don't see the connection with why i said…there's quite some hips rotation, in the second comment i specify that is 100% coz of the low speed n not so steep slope. I also add, which i thought was not needed to say, that is a consequence also of the fact that is a demonstration where this skier is trying to amplify certain movements (as angulation). sorry man, again dunno if u study it in professional terms or coz is a passion of urs, would be quite important to continue this exchange of opinions.

[@koala8777]

Damn that music is cool.

[@allanbrown7744]

Still too scared to try it, but sure looks fun, I should probably to bergfex dot com to learn more?

[@tuukkavilmi]

you are very good like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@francolanutiify]

spettacolare skier

[@markmd9]

"Edge both ski with the same pressure" doesn't work, I tried

[@VicenteM]

Edge both skis but, ALWAYS more pressure in the valley ski.

[@gx1400sc]

70-30 to 90-10 depending on speed, ice, or snow conditions. Never try to press the innerski same amount as the outher ski. (You actually can't because of the shortened innerski leg.)

[@Hamzoni96]

This is so wrong, you cant rotate your upper body. The only rotation in skiing is in feet, but just a little bit, when you start the turn

[@蒋敬]

Nice

[@williamspostoronnim9845]

Pl., tell what is the model of carving skies is used by that guy? These seem to be very-very soft! Thanks!

[@rajivrao4772]

I've always heard to keep more weight on the outside ski, but in this video, they said to keep the weight equal on both skis. Can anyone clarify?

[@FMeng]

Rajiv Rao always pressure more on outside ski, the video is wrong

[@orangehax4061]

The information is kind of wrong...See, if you apply pressure on both skis more friction happens and you dont gain speed.Its right too put more pressure on the outside ski unlessthe turn is really sharp.But on a piste that is almost useless.Im the first rated 16 yo skier in Slovenia and 5th in Europe and I use that principle...It works well for me

[@gx1400sc]

if you want to carve in high speed and use the rebound of the ski and skiboot. You really have to build up energi at the outher ski. Your innerski leg is shortened (knee up, waist bend etc) because of the high g-forces, therefore it is impossible to create equal downforce att both skis. BUT if you want to carve at slow speed this method may work .

[@gianlucazazzera2371]

unbelievable....how such bad mistakes can be tought by a video !!

[@39lp]

Isn't it a mistake to push your "body forwards and upwards" when transitioning from one turn to the next. Shouldn't he be trying to NOT raise his upper body. To do this, you pull your feet up, not push them down. You bend your knees and hips to accomplish this. By straightening his knees and hips, he's causing unnecessary and unwanted vertical movement of his upper body, and using a technique that will get him airborne in the moguls.

[@vojtechkment2956]

39lp You cannot carv in moguls really. Keep old good skidding or whatever style works in moguls.

[@Helios_1ne]

No, that is called a retraction turn and what you are doing there is releasing the energy of the ski upwards instead of forwards.

[@CostantinoLenzi]

ma non entra troppo in traslazione di anca??? sciata vecchia no?

[@AtsitsaGoWest]

They look like Technica

[@stevenbrown4833]

I wish I could carv :(

[@rogerpalin5864]

Don’t watch this video then!

[@nebulousJames12345]

Except..your knees do'nt bend like that....

[@anatoli28]

👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

[@yetsunfang]

Anyone knows the brand of his skis boots?

[@S.Angelov]

What is the name of the instructor?

[@slinkynet]

Oh dear have I just hit a raw nerve. Lol.

[@S.Angelov]

His name please?

[@993BlueZones]

Having good skis must help because the rental skis are a big shit!!!

[@gogglebro9421]

aka Park and Ride.

[@ЛедиНежность]

Я всегда мечтала покататься на лыжах в горах...Мечты..мечты в чём ваша слабость..?

[@bforever9039]

Добро пожаловать в Архыз затем Домбай а потом когда Вы превратитесь в богиню лыж можно и на Эльбрус :)

[@victordiazortega7053]

Uno dos uno dos.sentir piernas?

[@rollandnicolas4391]

Répartion du poid du corp très mauvaise,il se retrouve en arrière en sortie de virage, optez pour une répartition du poid du corp 2/3 ski extérieur, 1/3 ski intérieur. surtout a ne pas reproduire,

[@mmoz7302]

Desna skija Suade

[@andrijam7834]

DESNA SKIJA SUADE,LIJAVE NE U BASAMAKE MEDO JE TAMO,MEDO😂😂😂

[@JanVitvar]

Why this counter-rotation? Frontal stance is necessary for good keeping skis on edges. No good vid :-/ Lot of people is skiing like this vid ... Rotation and counter-rotation is WRONG movement of the upper body !

[@mnov04]

They don't show it correct. There mustn't be any rotation of your body as shown on the video. His body has to be still but only move up and down and also make that ''banana''-when teaching kids or in other words said, move your knees up and your upper part of the body down the hill. Your front mustn't be in the direction of the hill. It has to follow the skiis. :)

[@c172215s]

+Max Novak Only in medium to long turns

[@mnov04]

True, but that depends also where you are from, there are some differences between countries in terms of tehnique. In other words, most of the demonstrators and skiing teachers have the same tehnique with a small amount of variations. For example South Korea doesn't give so much attention to movement in general where otherwise Croatia tends to basically be perfect in movements and overcome all of the forces and make them make us faster and more stable. The point is that movement can be different but again, not every position is great for that moment. This one in particular can be better.

[@ski2befr]

Mauvaise position. La hanche est bloquée dans le virage, le poids est reporté sur l'intérieur. A ne pas imité!

[@993BlueZones]

I have to buy my first skis and i'm saving money, but until the moment, when i go to ski resorts they usually give you what they have, and how they are for being rented, they are a piece of shit, mainly the boots.

This is an excellent example of bad skiing..

[@GeroLubovnik]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Though the description was flawed the demonstration was excellent. Pure carved turns are a pure thrill and so few people ever learn to do it. Is it the only way we ski? Of course not. There are different techniques for different conditions.

Ouhh Bro, I really know what I'm talking about.. Yes, there are different techniques, but this is not good way. If you want good example, you should look on channel of Sebastien Michel..;) Cream of skiing skills.. Enjoy!!

[@GeroLubovnik]

I watched Sebastien's video. And yes, you're right he is a wonderful skier. I personally ski more like Sebatien than the other dude. FWIW, I've been teaching skiing for over 20 years, I am PSIA Level III certified, been a racer, race coach, pace setter, and actually have my own teaching system, so I have a pretty good idea of what goes into skiing. There are a couple distinct differences between the two skiers, but more similarities than differences.Sebastien skies similarly to Harald Harb, except Harald is 64 years old, so I think is quite exceptional. To teach pure carving you aren't going to do it with short radius carved dynamic turns as Sebastien is demonstrating. You have to learn to engage the edge. What sets Sebastien apart in his demonstrations is how he manages the energy coming out of the skis and how he initiates by retraction rather than extension (as I mentioned in my direct critique). What I really enjoyed about Sebatien's turns, which I am a HUGE proponent is how he uses his inside ski. I do the identical thing. That move, btw is what saved Mikaela Shifrin in the Olympic Women's slalom when she bobbled on that one turn. So, to recap the original vid here under discussion.... The skier isn't bad. He is demonstrating how to get into pure edged turns. As noted, I have some technical issues, but mostly with the verbal description more than the demonstration. Thanks for the opportunity to discuss this.

[@1betrieb1]

GeroLubovnik That might be one of the best answers i've read on KZbin so far.

[@saml5073]

@@GeroLubovnik Can you provide more info about your teaching system? Your knowledge seems vast and accurate and I would like to learn more.

[@maciejkaniewski1979]

Why are you pushing your knees? It is against the nature! Never teach like that! Your skiing looks beautiful, but this effect is never achieved by forcing your knees! Carving is revolution in skiing. It is natural, fluent and beautiful. And safe!

[@caccaminguscia]

His skiing just looks wrong

[@dundeedolphin]

Weird hand carriage.

[@lantof]

Terrible tecnic.... In this video you can see the teatcher when is changing edges moves to forward the outside ski that became inside, is a terrible mistake.The knees must be on the same line in the changing edges and in all turn. Fortunately the best skier do not do this otherwise they could not do sl or gs ecc. properly.... Look the differents with "la grande neve" or "checkpoint"

[@rogerpalin5864]

This is dreadful, can’t even get his pole plant timing correct

[@robertgarza1740]

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[@valerybykarskiy6799]

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[@JB91710]

There is no Teaching in this video. All he is doing is describing what parts of the body Look Like when you are actually doing something else. He is even describing movements that are wrong. Those demonstrators don't do them when they ski, but they have no clue how to Teach what they do. Want me to prove it to you? Stand up. You want to make a turn to the right. Bend your knees to the right. Which foot are you standing on? Your right foot. Which foot are you supposed to be standing on for a right turn? Your left foot.

[@Cutlerypotato]

🎿🐔

[@yg10606]

there's absolutely no need for that much angulation at that speed. crappy demonstation. :-(

[@jamesdunn9714]

Exaggeration is helpful so that one can understand the moves. If the move is too subtle or hidden it is known as a close confuser.