Bernadette's Article gets Canceled by Amy | The Big Bang Theory

“Check out the rack on that scientist.”
Season 8 Episode 7: The Misinterpretation Agitation
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[@MysticClaws100]

The weirdest thing about this plot is that this is the whole thing. There's no resolution or conclusion to it. They just sort of forget about it

[@withjust-a-bite1396]

So basically the norm of the later seasons?

[@BenE8844]

Chuck Lorre and his writers SUCKED in the last five seasons.

[@starchanneljoseph]

They do meet up later and Bernadette tries to apologize but they had more important things to worry about with the guys getting “kidnapped” so they both agreed to let it go

[@BenE8844]

@@starchanneljoseph In other words: LAZY WRITING. Their subplot just gets ignored.

[@ottonormal9718]

@@BenE8844 I always went with: this is the message! This is how friendships and family should work. You focus on the important things and let unimportant things go. No nagging and quarrel.

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

I love how they both have a point. It makes the conflict feel more real.

[@skullton3292]

True but I feel like Amy crossed a line when she took Bernadette's choice away. She basically made the choice for her and told her to deal with it.

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

@@skullton3292 I agree. It made me lean more towards Bernadette's side. I simply see both sides despite taking one.

[@hospitalcakewalk]

How does Amy have a point? She sexualizes Brennadette all the time. It's okay to be pretty AND be a scientist

[@fleatactical7390]

@@skullton3292 She absolutely crossed the line. No different that Antifa dropping a dime on some music club because they were hosting a band that Antifa or some other soy boy SJW didn't think was "acceptable." Personal freedom of choice. Not collectivism.

[@thesourpatchkidd579]

Amy is entitled to her opinion and she may have been right in what she said, but the second she went behind her friend’s back and sabotaged her she was dead wrong. But it makes sense, because Amy has always shown a desire to engage in the kind of mean girl antics she was the victim of. I’m glad that the show allowed her to grow out of that.

[@nicbentulan]

So it's going behind someone's back to vote trump if you have friends who vote for Biden? Lol poor me. If only I didn't have friends who wanted to vote Biden. Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@Historyandlegends789]

Also let’s be clear, NO ONE wants to see Amy in anything less than a sweater.

[@nicbentulan]

@@Historyandlegends789 Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

The nuance is that she did not sabotage her, she sent an email criticizing the article itself. She would likely have sent the email even if Bernadette was not involved. If that is the case, there is nothing bad in what she did.

[@eternallucifer7709]

@@jaimeduncan6167 unless Amy was not aware the article was a thing before Bernadette told her, which I doubt, Amy clearly sabotaged Bernadette.

[@ambercherise2391]

If Amy had been asked to participate, I wonder if she would have objected?

[@diegomauriciomontoya]

No

[@nicbentulan]

​@@diegomauriciomontoya Lol and if Amy would?

[@nicbentulan]

Yes unless the magazine did the same with men.

[@peterriverajr6899]

Yes why would she participate

[@ambercherise2391]

@@peterriverajr6899 because, possibly, Bernadette’s assessment was correct. I personally think, had they asked Amy, she would have enjoyed being that overt about her sexuality. Amy is a little vain, and when people praise her, she eats it UP. I personally agree with Bernadette, and had Amy been involved, Amy wouldn’t have objected.

[@exas4791]

Regardless of what Amy thinks, Bernadette should have been allowed to make that choice by herself, and to wholly determine the outcome. Friends should allow each other opportunities to decide, unless the situation threatened life and / or limb.

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@exas4791]

​@nicbentulan Yes, it's a democracy, so Bernadette is entitled to her opinion. Deal with it.

[@exas4791]

@@akashkar7474 Who said anything about “authority” or “dictatorship” ?

[@nicbentulan]

@@exas4791 Of course. I never said Bernadette didn't. Bernadette can email the magazine people too. Why didn't Bernadette do this? Who said only Amy has the right to email?

[@tasiahoyt3526]

@@nicbentulanshe wouldn’t have had to email them if Amy hadn’t gone behind her back and sabotaged the opportunity out of pure jealousy. Because that was clearly all that was

[@jazzycat8917]

They were both right. Amy was right that there is a MAJOR problem with women in STEM not being taken seriously interlocking with the bigger societal problem of successful women only being given the brightest spotlight if they're also conventually attractive. But Bernadette is a grown adult with the right to control of and show off her sexuality as she sees fit, if she felt empowered by the photoshoot then thats her call. It is not up to Amy to take that agency away from her or any other woman and make decisions for them based on her own feelings (and likely personal insecurities and projections).

[@nicbentulan]

Amy LEGALLY exercised 1st amendment GOD-GIVEN RIGHT to free speech. Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@PrateekPandey2658]

Tbh Bernadette was right Amy was just yapping

[@ThatColin]

@@PrateekPandey2658i agree

[@SchlichteToven]

The problem is with the men who created the article in the first place. It's backward as heck. And there would have been a general protest if they'd done the same thing with men. Basically they're saying the target audience of anything science related is men. And other female scientists who saw the article would probably feel uncomfortable. But the show is mostly written by men for men, so who's surprised.

[@Joseph-gm3qm]

Bernadette shouldn't have apologized to Amy, Amy was in the wrong just like she was when she started on Wil Wheaton the second he sat down to do an episode of fun with flags with Sheldon.

[@abigailaceves9230]

Yeah, I didn’t like how Amy acted towards Wil in that season 6 episode.

[@MG-ok2bn]

That episode with her being unreasonably critical towards will Wheaton was a big wtf Amy?

[@abigailaceves9230]

@@MG-ok2bn She criticized Will’s “bad” acting while filming a Fun with Flags episodes he guessed in.

[@BlackNerdist]

As Amy pointed out, that article would have trickled down to all women in science.

[@MG-ok2bn]

@@abigailaceves9230 I know that's the episode I'm referring to

[@GamerplayerWT]

“I think the message is: Check out the rack on that scientist.” I’m down with that. Hahahaha!

[@user-gc5vs3sq3r]

While Amy may have been right in what she said, it was wrong of her to sabotage Bernadette like that. I think there was a bit of jealousy there also. If it was Amy who was asked to do the photo shoot she would have let everyone know it and would have gone to her head. She was using the feminism card to conceal her own jealousy and resentment.

[@icewithboba]

as a female stem person i think amy's opinion is quite valid (and is a shared opinion in traditionally male fields), and i wish bernadette (or the writers) gave it more thought. i hate that the ending was just that amy also looked at her breasts and had no sexual appeal herself. the photoshoot doesn't just affect bernadette - it also affects the general perception of all female scientists, including amy, and this is hard for the privileged ones to understand (i.e. bernadette) because it feels like they're gaining something from the appreciation of physical attractiveness over intellect. it would be better here if amy told bernadette beforehand, instead of doing it behind her back, but telling the magazine why the photoshoot is promoting gender inequality isn't wrong. plus, the magazine was the one that ultimatedly made the decision to cancel the photoshoot.

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@Historyandlegends789]

Amy doesn’t care about science, she wants to be valued and top dog. Why else would she be in an abusive relationship with Sheldon?

[@nicbentulan]

@@Historyandlegends789 Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@aduboo29]

@tulan Has it ever occurred to you that a lot of the people you speak to on the internet aren't from the USA and don't give a hoot about your constitution? Contrary to what you seem to think, the US constitution isn't the global standard for moral decision making. Generally speaking I don't rely on a piece of paper my government controls to inform me on what is right and what is wrong - I have my own moral compass. Nobody is saying 'Amy should go to prison', they're saying 'Amy did something wrong.' Not everything that's wrong is illegal. So maybe stop copy-pasting a completely pointless statement because you've deluded yourself into thinking your country solved morality 200 years ago.

[@nicbentulan]

@@aduboo29 1 I'm not from the US . Lol. I'm a dual citizen of Hong Kong and the Philippines. 2 Amy is an American citizen though. And the setting is the US. 3 Generally free speech is a GOD-GIVEN RIGHT and is a feature of every democracy. 4 In general countries should be democracies.

[@isabellavalencia8026]

That "haircut" was the biggest mistake on Penny

[@Gabbythebaker]

Yeah, she doesn’t even look like herself

[@ffionlewis5394]

"Check the rack on that scientist" 😂😂

[@TheHound402]

Never apologize for fighting back.

[@nicbentulan]

Amen. Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. They need to deal with it. God bless you.

[@SJ-qd6ev]

@@nicbentulan and Bernadette expressed opinion of masses when she said no one wants amy to express her sexuality. when you take away an individual's right to make their because of Collective good, you've become a shitty person let alone a friend. its always the ugly people complaining about beauty standards and sexuality.

[@WithoutliesShlimShlamdie-rc9ry]

@@nicbentulan Amy expressed her own opinion. But at the end of the day it also matters what the majority wants so why not hold a poll?

[@nxzeerxh]

having humility is fine

[@BeckyM2000]

Amy was in the wrong for cancelling Bernadette's article photoshoot which has ruined her chance to get some publicity in the world of science.

[@nicbentulan]

Wait wrong opinion? Or wrong to email? Both? Neither? Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@potocatepetl]

No, she wasn't. 1. She didn't cancel it, the editors did upon reading her opinion on the article and realising their idea was a bad one! I assure you, they were more than thankful someone pointed out the potential scandal such an article coul cause. 2. Are you serious???? You honestly think the article would bring Bernadette publicity in the world of science? You aren't a scientist, are you? You also never had any type of contact with that world, otherwise you wouldn't write something like that! The only publicity would bring her is being seen like an easy woman who got ahead by dressing skimpy and showing her huge breasts. She would be discredited in the world of science! The only credit she might get would be from lonely scientists thinking of her at night....

[@hineraable]

What I don't understand is how she even cancelled it, it makes no sense, she only sent an email, which she's allowed to, but the editorial is the one who decides what gets published and I doubt one email would be enough to make them change their mind.

[@nicbentulan]

@@hineraable Yeah that's the thing. If Amy coerced them then Amy is definitely wrong I agree with parent commenter 100%. But if Amy votes for Trump while Bernadette votes for Biden and if Trump wins, then Bernadette will blame Amy? Lol

[@potocatepetl]

You understand it very well, she didn't cancel it, the editor did after she opened his/her eyes. Imagine the scandal this would start nowadays in the real world (which is pretty much their world).People just refuse to think it through...@@hineraable

[@gcHK47]

I side with Bernadette on this one. Amy was, indeed, jealous of the fact that people see Bernadette as sexy, and she was using feminism as a cover for her own jealousy.

[@RodrigoAlves-rh5fe]

Concordo totalmente. Além disso Amy é feia.

[@invadertifxiii]

perfectly worded

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@invadertifxiii]

@@nicbentulan by going behind Bernadette back for selfish reasons she might as well have

[@nicbentulan]

@@invadertifxiii So if I have a friend voting for Biden and then I vote for trump am I going behind that person's back?

[@Omega0850]

"Up until my vicious attack, you were the one beeing wrong." I have to remember that line.

[@abehambino]

That was s vicious burn!

[@invadertifxiii]

she always has the vicious burns. "because your sex life is also theoretical"

[@newsduke]

Amy had every right to express her opinion to the magazine. And I think she had a valid point. At the same time, out of respect for Bernadette she should’ve asked her first instead of going behind her back.

[@nicbentulan]

So you need to ask your friend's permission to vote for Trump if your friend is voting for Biden?

[@newsduke]

@@nicbentulan My vote doesn’t directly impact my friend, at least not more than the president impacts everybody. This magazine article was more important to Bernadette, and only indirectly affected Amy in the sense sexism affects all women. I still notice Amy was hesitant to tell Bernadette what she had done, because on some level she felt bad about it.

[@nicbentulan]

@@newsduke Q1 why do i have to ask their permission to vote trump. but they don't have to ask my permission to vote biden? lol the point is amy didn't do anything illegal. or at least there's no evidence. if amy threatened the magazine company, then you're 100% correct but incomplete but amy is a million times worse than what you're describing. if amy held a knife to their throat or use academic power to bully someone then it's illegal. but amy is exercising free speech. it's like if you criticise a restaurant and it gets taken down by the health department or something. Q2 but i guess now you'll say this is 'immoral' even if 'legal' - but then please elaborate? eg 1- your measure of morality is dependent on 'direct impact' and 'more important' - how direct is direct? 2- how important is important? 3- quantify everything for me. be very specific. 4 - you also said 'at least not more than the president impacts everybody' - soooo a direct impact is bad unless there's a bigger impact ? what? 5 - and i know we're talking morality at this point but so what if there's an impact as long as it's legal? actually to combine morality & legality, i'd say something is moral if it is legal & democratic... like a just law. i believe this is a moral use of free speech and so is following a just law. of course i'm aware there are legal yet immoral uses of free speech like how 1st amendment apparently protects certain kinds of movies iykwim. (and not that i necessarily have anything against but that A - i find it ridiculous the 1st amendment is involved B - others of course consider those movies immoral.) Q3 but i don't think this is a case. it's just expressing your opinion of how you don't like something. ok how about this - what if everyone female in their university takes a vote? is that ok? that's essentially what's happening here. sending your opinion to someone is voting.

[@PrateekPandey2658]

​@@newsdukeBernadette point was right about Amy in the end

[@newsduke]

@@PrateekPandey2658 Bernadette is gorgeous, and Amy is not. But still, that was a crappy thing to say. You could tell she immediately regretted saying it.

[@invadertifxiii]

ironically amy ends up getting a whole makeover when they win the nobel because she didnt like how she looked

[@janise01]

I didn't see anywhere where she suggested Bernadette or others shouldn't care about their day to day personal appearance. There's a pretty obvious difference between seeing yourself and deciding you want to update your look a bit but maintaining a professional appearance and participating in a glorified Playboy photoshoot.

[@eyra7550]

@@janise01 exaclty!!

[@user-lv5zz7wv6l]

Amy and Bernie are another underrated duo

[@jiggleplays9777]

Npc

[@rme1383]

They are main characters which part is underrated?

[@user-lv5zz7wv6l]

@@rme1383 them being together

[@kanegorgeous3046]

Bernadette was wrong Amy was not jealous of her. She was stating her opinion & it is valid. I would rather have friend like Amy.

[@nicbentulan]

Finally thank God someone here is rational! Yeah Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. They need to deal with it. God bless you! I don't necessarily agree with Amy's opinion or anything but free speech is 1st amendment. If Amy coerced the magazine is some way, then Amy is 100% wrong. With no evidence of coercion, there's no reason to hate Amy.

[@ANGELILYworks]

Amy should've minded her own business.

[@rexcatston8412]

Attractive women don't protest attractive women getting work for being attractive... unattractive ones do. There;s always a rationalization for it though...they have time to form them because of the lack of dates Bo ho ho!

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@thy_call_me_karma8469]

She just gave an opinion 😂 not her fayult

[@alexcyj8450]

But IT IS her business! As she says articles like that one affect all women in the scientific field, I get that as a courtesy to her friend she should have said something before sending the email. But what she did was right!

[@kaoryakasaka6835]

I think Amy was right. The first thing she said wasn't about herself or even women in general - she said they should celebrate Bernadette for her achievements and complimented her on being a successful scientist. It doesn't scream jealousy to me. Bernadette was right to be mad at Amy for going behind her back, but what she said about her sexuality was out of line. Regardless of whether or not Amy had a secret envy-based motive, she didn't attack Bernadette - she attacked the article. Bernadette wasn't confronting Amy about going behind her friend's back, she was attacking Amy's sexuality and looks, which really shows that she really just wanted to be publicly labeled "hotter" than her scientist friends and is mad she didn't get the chance to.

[@9k49]

Amy was wrong. Even if she has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@kasbakgaming]

One of the things I think they really should have gone into more here is how the concept of sexuality does not, and in many ways should not, be limited only to physical appearance. Publicity that increases the appeal of intellectualism, both in men and in women, is a positive influence that should be encouraged. Amy's actions not only stepped over the line in taking away a decision from Bernadette personally, but also prevented exposure that would potentially enhance the appeal of both female scientists specifically and scientists and intellectuals in general. Being a scientist or just smart in general does not automatically mean you have no sex appeal, nor that you should entirely abandon the desire to have that appeal in favor of being appreciated for your mind. I'm sure there are many kids who have the potential to take up a career in the sciences but don't because they fear how it will affect their social standing. Penny's line about her possibly having been a theoretical physicist if there had been more articles showing their appeal is actually on point.

[@DIDYOUSEETHAT172]

Or! Its only ugly people who think attractive people should not be noticed for their looks as well as a achievements. In other words Amy is an unattractive character, with bitter attitudes, disguised in platitudes. 😁😂

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@tanyamoretz]

@@nicbentulan are you blind? or just stupid? amy literally interfered and the article was canceled because of her. it's one thing to have an opinion, it's completely other to shove your opinion in other people's throats against their will

[@DIDYOUSEETHAT172]

@@nicbentulan Its a TV show. Get your head out of your A$$! 😂😂

[@Tontoquienloleation]

​@@nicbentulanStop copying and pasting the same comment. You were wrong the first time already

[@joelnishanth3114]

Bernadette didn't have to apologise for what she said. Amy was worse than Sheldon at this point here.

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

​@@nicbentulanAmy deliberately made sure Bernadette didn't get her photoshoot just because she's jealous of her looks. That is not "expressing an opinion."

[@nicbentulan]

@@vetarlittorf1807 Haha deliberately made sure by sending an email expressing an opinion? Next you'll tell me if I vote for say trump and trump wins you'll blame me for Biden's loss?

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@nicbentulan She sent the email knowing that it would result in the article being pulled. And what Amy did was not a vote.

[@nicbentulan]

@@vetarlittorf1807 1 Why 'knowing' ? 2 Did Amy threaten anyone's life? 3 So if I vote for trump 'knowing' trump would win like if it's 50-50 and I'm the deciding vote then you'll blame me if Biden loses?

[@33themajor]

Amy was a cancel culture Karen for what she did. Just because she thinks it’s wrong, doesn’t make it so. The ladies selected and other women scientists should be able to decide for themselves if they would like to appear in the magazine article. Very wrong of Amy. IMO she was just jealous of Bernadette and that Bernadette is hotter and sexier than her.

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@33themajor]

@@nicbentulan yea and Amy decided her opinion is all that mattered and got the article canceled. Bernadette’s or any other lady’s opinions didn’t matter. Once Amy decided, that was it. That’s your definition of democracy?

[@nicbentulan]

​@@33themajor 1 Amy didn't coerce them. That's what I'm saying. If I vote for trump and then trump wins while you want Biden to win, then you're going to blame me instead of the other voters? The people running the magazine have minds of their own. They are rational adults, and then Amy expressed an opinion. 2 Did Amy do anything illegal?

[@33themajor]

@@nicbentulan she expressed an opinion that she should’ve kept to herself. What if someone else wrote in how they think the article was fine and should be published? Who’s right? Bernadette was excited to do this and Amy decided no. Her opinion is all that matters. Even though she wasn’t appearing in the article, she gets to decide. And you hear her? She didn’t just voice her opinion. She sent a scathing message. Not cool of her. Insulting to Bernadette and the other ladies.

[@nicbentulan]

​@@33themajor If I have a friend who wants to vote for Biden then why should I keep my opinion to vote for trump to myself and thus not vote?

[@jonas8829]

What made me angry is that Amy had the people of the magazine pool the article, so Bernadette couldn’t do it anymore

[@PosaPunto]

I'm on Amy's side. She's right about women being sexualized and it's already hard for women to be stop seen as sexual objects and instead seen as business women and be appreciated for their accoplisments in their fields. It would be a step back for ALL women if they did that photoshoot, not just her. Also did Amy "sabotaged" it? No. She just wrote her opinion. They didn't have to cancel the whole thing for just one email, it's not like she forced them to do anything. They must have seen her point and agreed with her sinse they decided to cancel it in the end.

[@nicbentulan]

1- GOD BLESS YOU. besides the opinion agreement, like you agree all these people are just so damn wrong when they say sabotage right? 2- btw I read an argument like the fact that Bernadette accuses Amy of ulterior motive of not being invited is like ... Why doesn't this prove Amy's point exactly? Lol.

[@ThatColin]

Amy had the right to her own opinion but then she emailed the publisher in the hopes of getting it taken down while knowning Bernadette wanted to do it. Amy obviously sabotaged Bernadette’s moment, and she is a terrible person for it.

[@nicbentulan]

@@ThatColin so if I vote trump knowing that Biden supporters will not get biden in office then is this sabotage? 😄😂😃🤪✝️✡️☪️😭🤣🇮🇱🇵🇸😴😛

[@9k49]

Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@nicbentulan]

@@ThatColin So if you vote Biden and I vote trump that's sabotage?

[@badbiker666]

Amy; "I just don't think a professional woman should have to flaunt her sexuality in order to get ahead." Me; "If you got it, flaunt it!"

[@summersun6536]

Well, actually it was not Amy who pulled the article. It was the magazine. Amy only wrote a letter expressing her opinion. But it was the magazine that decided to stop the article. Usually, one single mad e-mail does not have the power to stop a magazine from production. Either it was loads of such e-mails or the magazine thought nobody would wanna read it and they made the mistake of t thinking so. And as we see later Amy can be beautiful, too, with the right styling. That was really mean of Bernadette to say so, despite the fact she was mad at Amy.

[@nicbentulan]

Finally some rationality.

[@DayDaDonDadaa]

she definitely prompted the magazine article being pulled she literally said it herself 😭 2:14 . Amy is very well respected in her field, you think the publishers wouldn’t take into consideration the opinion of a lead woman scientist ? Maybe Bernadette was wrong for what she said but Amy started it by going behind her friend’s back, being unsupportive and taking a opportunity away when she had no right. she didn’t care about how Bernadette would feel. Not to mention you can’t tell somebody how to retaliate.

[@summersun6536]

@@DayDaDonDadaa since they were talking about a magazine (yellow press), and not a journal (scientific content) neighter the editors of a journal would have come up with the idea of a photo story of half naked female scientists, nor the editors of a magazine would give a penny about an e-mail from a woman who doesn't give a f... about her appearance. Even _if_ it was a scientific journal Amy wouldn't neither have the connections nor the power to make them pull back the article. Additionally, Amy tends to overestime herself (what she has in common with Sheldon). Her statement is more a proof of that than an actual reality. She did Bernadette dirty, though.

[@diegomauriciomontoya]

Im The reason it was pulled. Her words 😊

[@nicbentulan]

@@DayDaDonDadaa So if you vote for Biden and I vote for trump then I am being unsupportive? 😅🇮🇱🇵🇸😹😆🤣😃😂

[@sonicguyver7445]

I love how Amy and Bernadette look at each other when Penny suggested sexy scientists might have encouraged her to be a physicist. And that Penny knew what they were doing without looking. It's a great way of showing how well they have gotten to know each other over the years. And as a guy I'm not even going to weigh in on Amy and Bernadette's argument. I've never been a woman or a scientist so I can't argue either side.

[@nicbentulan]

Thank God there's an actual discussion that doesn't UNJUSTLY criticise Amy's LEGAL DEMOCRATIC exercise of GOD-GIVEN RIGHT of free speech. God bless you whether or not I agree with you. Free speech. Both Amy & Bernadette can express opinions. Both you & I can express opinions. As long as the opinions are democratic. God bless UK the US democracy America the free world etc. Also happy Chinese new year from Hong Kong!

[@i_hate_stupid_username_rules]

@@nicbentulan free speech is free speech, amy shouldnt lose her right to say her opinions, but she SHOULD be socially stigmatised for being a moral busy-body

[@nicbentulan]

@@i_hate_stupid_username_rules 1 How can something legal and democratic in modern democratic society but immoral? 2 What's a non-busy body way to disagree? 3 If you vote Biden and I vote Trump, then am I a busy body for voting for a different presidential candidate?

[@i_hate_stupid_username_rules]

@@nicbentulan 1. legality doesnt automatically mean it's right, if it was legal to shoot orphans and puppies that doesnt then mean its a morally okay thing to do 2. by not contacting the papers and getting it taken down and by not badgering penny and bernadette for it 3. no because donald trump is not the busybody candidate

[@nicbentulan]

@@i_hate_stupid_username_rules 1 - I said in modern democratic society. That hardly sounds like something that gets you a 6.00+ on the economist democracy index. But I'm glad we agree amy didn't break the law. You could argue anything legal is still immoral. that's why I added another qualifier democratic. I'm asking for an action that is - Legal - Democratic - In modern democratic society - yet immoral. You're analogously saying that in chess 'Oh what Magnus Carlsen did to Hans Niemann is immoral, but it's still not defamation.' 2 - you didn't explain how. You just explained how not. So far your answer sounds dictatorial. Like the only acceptable way to disagree ... Is to not disagree at all, i.e. that amy can disagree only in thoughts. 3 - nice job admitting your bias. Essentially you haven't distinguished what Amy did from any person who votes in an election. Sending an email to give feedback to a magazine isn't really different from doing the same to a restaurant, school or KZbin channel.

[@ungolcost]

People saying Amy was in the wrong are missing the point. Amy wasn’t upset that Bernadette won and she didn’t. She was upset with the award as a whole. Whether people want to admit it or not, focusing on how attractive female scientists are diminished their accomplishments. As Amy stated, it is already difficult for women to be taken seriously in science. Even if Amy was partially jealous, that doesn’t invalidate her point

[@janise01]

Exactly. Unless there was some 50 Sexiest Male Scientists article something like that clearly isn't done to celebrate women's intellectual accomplishments. There's a reason the Nobel Prize ceremony doesn't have a swimsuit segment.

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

The only thing Amy did wrong is not being more upfront with Bernadette to begin with. Like saying when they were talking that she's going to send an email to the editors that this is a bad idea. Then again Penny was in the room backing Bernadette doing it. So maybe she didn't feel confident enough to say it then. This was a classic case of Bernadette thinking she's in the right and then being mean and judging Amy by her appearance which is what Amy's point WAS exactly. That female scientists are typically judged by their appearance and find it hard to be taken seriously and Bernadette contributing to the fetishisation of female scientists DOES affect all of them and makes it harder. It sucks but when you're part of a certain group whether you chose it or not. Some actions that you take does affect people's perceptions of ALL of them especially if it reinforces preconceived ideas of them. So, Bernadette is fine to want to look good and feel sexy. But when it comes to certain pursuits and jobs, maybe leave the sexiness out if it's likely to be controversal. And dollars to doughnuts if that article came out it would've been HEAVILY criticised and Bernadette may've lost scientific and professional integrity because of it. So Amy did her a favour by stopping it BEFORE it even happened. Bernadette was over the line with judging Amy for her sexuality.

[@nicbentulan]

Good point about how Bernadette proved Amy's point. You should be a writer. Then Amy could've had a comeback like 'See. I told you. You did it just now.' 1- What illegal thing did Amy do? 2- If you vote Biden, then why do I have to be upfront about voting Trump?

[@hineraable]

I'm sorry, I fail to see how Amy sabotaged the article? It doesn't matter if you agree with her or not, sending an email criticizing an editorial usually isn't enough to cancel an article, plus everyone has the right to send an email, am i missing something?

[@tefky7964]

She says that they agreed with her and canceled it mostly thanks to her. Usually one mail isn´t enough, but in this case it is a mail from another very succesful scientist and so they did it mostly thanks to her, so ofcourse that she sabotaged it.

[@nicbentulan]

​@@tefky7964 Amy LEGALLY exercised 1st amendment GOD-GIVEN RIGHT to free speech. Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@mischarowe]

@@tefky7964 So Amy should just shut her mouth?

[@hineraable]

@@tefky7964 That doesn't make sense, if they were making that article in the first place that means that there were multiple female scientists that agreed to it, is Amy somehow more relevant or had more power than all of them combined? The only thing that Amy did was sending an email, which is something that ANYONE can do, she doesn't have any type of special power or enough authority to pressure the editorial, proven again by the fact that the only thing she did was sending an email, and unless she revealed in that email that somehow she had the power to shut down the editorial if they didn't comply, it doesn't count a sabotage. Amy, and anyone else, has the right to send an email to an editorial, and same wise, the editorial has the right to choose if they want to listen to said emails or not, in this case they choose to listen to Amy, which they have a right to do and isn't sabotage in any way, shape or form. If the issue had been about Bernadette saying that she needed to send an application to the editorial so she could be included in the article, and then Amy had somehow interjected the applications, then THAT would count as sabotage, because she would directly taking Bernadette's decision for her, but simply expressing her opinion and making the editorial be aware of it isn't sabotage, at all, to the point that I have no idea why the show wants us to believe that Amy specifically is the reason why the article was called off. Bernadette had the right to accept participating in that article, but Amy also had the right to criticize that same article in an email, and finally the editorial had the right to choose a side.They're all choices everyone is allowed to make.

[@ThatColin]

@@mischaroweyes

[@pbkimblee1858]

There's gonna be this weird guy or girl talking about how Amy didn't hold a knife at anyone's throat and it's a democracy and you should deal with it. Just a heads up.

[@fantasyland3646]

Just saw it before this comment

[@nicbentulan]

Lol thanks for being such a fan!

[@abeoluwatomiwa8619]

You can tell that whoever that person is, they're not proud of how they look either.

[@nicbentulan]

@@abeoluwatomiwa8619 Why?

[@user-pp3wl8mr2f]

You're kinda right, I'm a girl in STEM and it makes is so much harder for us bc they don't take women seriously when i could kick their ass any day, just going behind her friend was kinda wrong. Aaaand its TV so.@@nicbentulan

[@NYG1991]

And this is not the first time Amy and Bernadette have been at each other’s throats.

[@sama2dli633]

As a young female scientist, i agree with Amy on that. The idea of ''prejeduce based on look'' already went too far. Even technically, if you put a lot of effort into looking hot, it's huge amount of time you spent instead of focusing on your main job. A lot of people claim it's otherwise, but i see with my eyes how well girls with botox and fillers do in science. And also, the magazine was humuliating women and science with doing such a thing. Maybe not in the movie, but in real life Bernadette would damage her reputation

[@nicbentulan]

Not that i disagree with Amy but what if both males & females were invited to do this?

[@Tontoquienloleation]

Ok, but that's your opinion. You must allow other women to have their own opinions as well.

[@nicbentulan]

@@Tontoquienloleation What made you say the parent comment didn't let other women have opinions? It's not like Amy held a knife to anyone's throat.

[@Tontoquienloleation]

@@nicbentulan You sure? You've said that so many times that it might've become a reality already

[@nicbentulan]

​​@@Tontoquienloleation I see you didn't answer my question. Your resignation is accepted. If Amy threatened, then I agree with you 100%. Show me evidence of the threat.

[@malcolmr3]

I think Amy had every right to speak her mind about her feelings. After that it was up to the magazine to decide, which they did after admitting that it was in poor taste. If you want to do an article on the women of science then make the focus on the achievements and how hard they work just to get recognition. Thinking to when they were nominated for the Nobel prize, Amy would have been only the 4th woman to ever win in physics (assuming they portrayed it accurately which they always tried to do). How many women work in physics? I’m betting it’s not equitable and I’m not talking about giving the award just because they’re women but looking at the work unbiased in a field that historically favors men. It’s articles like this one that help to cause women scientists to be stigmatized. Bernadette’s comment at the end was typical of her character and how she treated people. It had far more to do with her character than her anger. 90% of the episodes that she is in show her being mean and snarky to someone/everyone. And honestly, Penny wasn’t much better. She was constantly apologizing for something she had said or done.

[@nicbentulan]

Amen. Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it, people. God bless you.

[@FunctionalJunkie_]

Amy was not wrong. It does diminish womens achievements to sexualize them. But she should not have intefered and just left Bernadette to decide if it was right or wrong.

[@klas666]

So... What's wrong with making a similar photoshoot with 50 hottest men in academia? I really don't see a problem. Everybody has the right to reject such a proposal, male or female or whoever.

[@janise01]

Do you see that as actually being a plausible thing that'd be done? There's also the fact that even if there were while it'd be closer to equal treatment we can't ignore the fact that men don't have to fight or prove themselves in order to be respected for something other than their bodies so the impact isn't the same.

[@klas666]

@@janise01 there are firefighter calendars and whatnot, I don't see why it can't be the same with academics (except maybe smaller pool of hot guys :) My point is more about Amy's notion that there's no way similar photoshoot for men happens. I dabbled in academia myself long ago, and I wouldn't mind appearing in a similar thing, I can tell you that.

[@Born2Fight4PAIN]

I would have paid serious dinero to witness that photoshoot

[@vipulvirus]

That is why I always say Amy was the worst. She abandoned Sheldon and moved on to dating random guys the next day, She insulted Will Wheaton when he was helping Sheldon on an episode of fun with flags, She was jealous of Penny and Bernadette's friendship and forced them to include her in all their socializing, and even this where she got jealous of Bernadette getting featured in the magazine and went behind her back to sabotage the article.

[@ambercherise2391]

“All I’m saying, never mess with another person’s money.”

[@trevonpernell0814]

2:40 OUCH.

[@rebeccaburke9009]

Advice from Amy. Run.

[@priscillajimenez27]

Just do an article on both top men and women but also don't do inappropriate photos. Done. Problem solved

[@nicbentulan]

@@priscillajimenez27 People get to cast their votes in an election. It's the same. Amy sends an email stating an opinion. The magazine people can make up their own minds.

[@priscillajimenez27]

@@nicbentulan unrelated

[@nicbentulan]

@@priscillajimenez27 why?

[@pilotanimal192]

Who wouldn't won't to see them . She's very pretty lady .

[@yacobeinauan9533]

She wasn’t wrong when she said its hard for women to be taken seriously in science so i get why she said what she said. Whether she’s reflecting or not she’s not wrong.

[@Gabbythebaker]

Amy had no right to call the company. She should mind her own business.

[@nicbentulan]

1- What illegal thing did Amy do? 2- If you vote Biden, then why don't I have any business to vote Trump? Lol

[@9k49]

Exactly. Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@nicbentulan]

@@9k49 So voting in an election is also going behind eg I vote trump. you vote Biden?

[@9k49]

@@nicbentulan What do you mean going behind?

[@nicbentulan]

@@9k49 If Bernadette votes Biden and then Amy votes Trump then is that going behind? LOL

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

What’s really awful is how such a hot and smart woman ended up with a wimpy little creep.

[@Gabbythebaker]

Good for Penny for sticking up for Bernadette

[@veronicavelasquez5888]

Totally

[@nicbentulan]

​@@veronicavelasquez58881- What illegal thing did Amy do? 2- If you vote Biden, then why don't I have any business to vote Trump? Lol

[@stormgirl09]

Amy was like those cancel culture people on Twitter/X in this episode....😬

[@ammarbaagu]

This is basically the same issue as Top 10 sexiest Dr. As a professional, such articles and image (again pretty risque based on Amy's description) would undermine the professional as a whole, not only the person involved. It is because of society expectations of Dr and scientist as professional with ethics and that kind of photoshoot kinda ruin break that expectation

[@SJ-qd6ev]

or maybe humanized them because most people either think of working as scientist either too nerdy or thankless (which is actually is) or too hard that only smart people can do.

[@priscillajimenez27]

00:40 no penny 🙄

[@badrinath5306]

The silplest of things: whether Amy was jealous r not it was in bad taste. It was bad for women scientists overall. It was especially bad for herself personally for the same reasons bernadette put forward. If science advanced on looks and not actual work well we won't be having science for too long I think. It was sexist and calling that out doesn't deserve to be mocked at.

[@ramseo100]

Wow this episode really warned us about the victim blaming article Mayim was gonna write

[@priscillajimenez27]

2:08 no one should pose like that...

[@user-nc3sn8we3h]

I work in the office for the next week for you by the time you get have to bring say that to me that they have a bit of a rough idea to forget

[@rogeriorento9730]

Amy's right though.

[@9k49]

Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@ScottGSP]

Melissa Rauch is a mini Kristen Bell.

[@blankblank6919]

Amy saved her from being an OF model

[@gcHK47]

She sabotaged Bernadette’s ability to network with the scientific community, all because she was jealous of how people never gave her a second look.

[@ambercherise2391]

@@gcHK47EXACTLY!!!

[@timbennion7079]

I can see things from Amy's point of view and from Bernadette' s side, also Penny isn't wrong. It may be a better situation in America, but here in the UK women have had a bad deal throughout our history. Inspired, really clever women can only reach to the top of their achievements, be it within the music industry, acting or within science, by working harder than men appear to have to do. This is a generalisation and doesn't apply to all men. Here, I am not really referring to scademic achievement, where men easily work as hard as women. But in particular I'm thinking of the music industry and female actors of years gone by. If they don't wish to use their sexuality to make their mark in those fields, then they should never feel obliged or pressured to do so. I do believe attitudes are gradually improving here, but it has taken so very long (centuries actually) for women to be recognised for their true worth and their ability to make massive contributions to our academic knowledge. Many women have very clever minds (shock, horror). How frustrating it must have been for those brilliant minded ladies in our history, who's voices were never heard. What a sad reflection on the dominant males of those times. Just imagine, there could easily have been a female version of someone with a not too dissimilar mind to Stephen Hawking back then . I don't mean having the same concepts, or the same deductions and the exact same brilliance of Mr Hawking, I just mean having amazing deductive thinking. I often think that we lost a lot more than we gained from our history. We aren't quite there yet, but things are gradually improving for women in the UK. Please note that I'm not an activist and I know how gifted men can be. I certainly recognise the brilliant minds that some men have today and have had throughout our history, how clever-minded men altered and improved our standards of living and of course, I don't intend to imply that men don't work hard inside the music industry either, or inside any chosen career. Of course they do, it would be an insult to suggest otherwise. Just think of the ingeniously, brilliant musical mind of Sir Paul McCartney and Sir Elton John. They didn't aspire to greatness by sitting on both hands. So I greatly admire them for their very hard work, their amazing contribution to our enjoyment of music, certainly throughout my lifetime and I wish to thank and I do respect and admire many others too. Luckily, clever young women are making big inroads into music (watch out for young Caity Baser, she has enormous potential in our popular music scene and I do admire her musically!) and some women did make their mark in our history through their brilliant minds (I wish that I had been so blessed, but I'm male and my special skills centre on burning my breakfast toast), but such women were far fewer than their male counterparts. I'm not anti-male. I'm just so shocked by our treatment of women in times past. It even has pond-like ripples in our society (at least in part)today. I may seem to be drifting away from the main topic of Bernadette's upset with Amy, but to my mind, their comments opens up a can of worms and no, I didn't laugh at that part. However, I love the Big Bang Theory. I laugh at the witty, cleverly delivered lines and admire the brilliant young actors so very much. Now the script wrters on that show really do have brilliant minds!! With regards to other very young females on our music scene (yes, I am deliberately name-dropping here, sorry, but my special thanks and admiration goes to Ellen Alaverdyan and Karolina Protsenko. for being so gifted and showing us how clever young female skills and minds can be. They will never be accused of sitting on both hands either. If you love your chosen subject, in their case it's music, the hard work is worth every second of their effort and time they devoted to their skills in playing their favourite musical instruments and please note.... singing as well. My apologies to our American cousins for my spelling, I recognise that they don't approve of our British ways. But despite all the rubbish hype we read on the internet. British folk no NOT hate Americans, where on earth did that idea spring from?? Sadly, some Americans believe it to be true. I've seen it printed as if it were a fact. (Mud sticks as they say, but this has to be the work of a Troll stirring their stick!! The complete opposite of a clever mind!!) Thank you for bothering to plough through my thoughts , (assuming that anyone did actually bother) I have the flu, I feel dreadful and I have time on my hands, so sorry!). In case you are wondering, yes, my whole life's work actually equates to sitting on both hands!!

[@nicbentulan]

Thank God there's an actual discussion that doesn't UNJUSTLY criticise Amy's LEGAL DEMOCRATIC exercise of GOD-GIVEN RIGHT of free speech. God bless you whether or not I agree with you. Free speech. Both Amy & Bernadette can express opinions. Both you & I can express opinions. As long as the opinions are democratic. God bless UK the US democracy America the free world etc. Also happy Chinese new year from Hong Kong! Thank you UK for giving us Hong Kong Israel etc.

[@GGGONEXT67]

Amy and Raj both a Lil day 😂

[@withjust-a-bite1396]

I can understand Amy, but man did she massively overstep here! Just like what Bernadette just said right now… Even if it’s bad publicity, it’s up to her - not Amy - to deal with it because she knew exactly what she was getting into. Despite her height and high-pitched voice, we certainly all know that Bernadette is no clueless teenage girl, I think all of us have seen by now just how cutthroat and cunning she can be so again there’s no way she didn’t know exactly what she was getting into in the end, nor not know how to handle what comes of it. Although, Bernadette’s comment at the end regarding Amy’s sexuality was uncalled more so when she happens to know it’s a sore spot for her friend, but that does tend to happen when you’re talking in anger.

[@nicbentulan]

Why overstep? Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@angelh1743]

Bernadette hit the nail on the head when she said Amy was clearly jealous and the fact that nobody wants Amy Farrah Fowler to express her sexuality. Literally, no one wants to see Amy Farrah Fowler express her sexuality. That would be gross and no one would buy that magazine.

[@nicbentulan]

Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@Historyandlegends789]

100% accurate. She chose Sheldon because he doesn’t have any urges.

[@nicbentulan]

@@Historyandlegends789 Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@nihilisticnirvana]

Poor Maiyim

[@yacobeinauan9533]

2:53 She wasn’t in the wrong tho.

[@user-eq6dj9dy5l]

I❤ Penny

[@oak_a]

as an ally of feminism I find it very sad how some women will justly cry their hearts out against objectification and proceed to not see how obvious amy's point is

[@diegomauriciomontoya]

The freedom to do what feminism tells women to do.

[@gcHK47]

It’s also difficult for the rest of us to understand why people who agree with Amy don’t see how she was in the wrong.

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

Melissa Ivy Rauch (Marlboro, Nueva Jersey, 23 de junio de 1980) es una actriz y comediante estadounidense, conocida por su papel de Bernadette Rostenkowski en la comedia The Big Bang Theory, y por ser la voz de Harley Quinn en la película animada del 2017, Batman y Harley Quinn. 44 AÑOS.

[@poodledreams]

It's bad writing that made Amy one of the most judgemental and hypocritical characters on tv, Miyam Bialik was excellent but Amy Farah Fowler was a terrible friend. Remember when she attacked Bernadette with her handbag but missed and broke Penny's nose?

[@haltopen12]

to be fair Bernadette deliberately got amy's car towed and deliberately scratched it which costs hundreds of dollars both to get it out of the tow lot and get the paint damage fixed.

[@jamess2664]

@@haltopen12 To be fair Amy's car should have been towed. It was parked in Howard's parking space.

[@MrJackRAA]

That was a result of a fight tho. It was Howard’s spot but Bernadette was the one who escalated it by getting Amy’s car towed over a petty argument. Both parties were at fault not just Amy

[@jsstar76]

Relax it’s just a TV show.

[@MrJackRAA]

@@jsstar76 exactly and I’m talking about said tv show.

[@christophergaff6992]

Amy is self absorbed like Sheldon,then Sheldon ruins Leonard's speech...you always need a villain in scripts that would Amy,Sheldon

[@2ctheocean]

I work in a male dominated field and Amy is 100% right. We aren't taken seriously from the get and are already objectified immediately. It takes doing something damn near heroic to get the respect of male colleagues in a lot of cases.

[@9k49]

Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@KenanVonKaiser]

Gottem!

[@Meushell]

I do wonder if Amy would feel that same way if she had been invited. Nothing against her appearance. She is beautiful, but she does enjoy attention. The magazine could resolve the situation by making the article about people in general, not just women, and have them professionally dressed. Amy does have a point, though she took it too far. It would have been interesting if she was offered, but declined.

[@nicbentulan]

Re too far: Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@Meushell]

@@nicbentulan Deal with what? My opinion. 😂 I think you are taking my opinion a little too seriously.

[@janise01]

Yeah probably. I don't see a scenario where she'd be ok participating in something like that.

[@Meushell]

@@janise01 I agree, but I wonder if she would have appreciated being asked…which would include having her wear something that fits her style.

[@fleatactical7390]

Amy's collectivism shone through here. Individualism is what has unlocked many secrets of science over the millennia. Team Bernie FTW.

[@lightgiver7311]

I'm with Amy

[@sofia_trvs]

Amy was right

[@nicbentulan]

God bless you. Thank God for some rationality. Whether or not Amy's opinion is correct, God bless you for defending Amy's LEGAL & DEMOCRATIC ACTIONS. The ff is my copypasta to people who say that what Amy did was immoral: Amy expressed an opinion. 1st amendment right. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@mischarowe]

Yes, agreed.

[@9k49]

Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief

[@DarthPizza777]

Amy is my least favorite person on the show. It would be a better show without her in it.

[@Dragonkid1801]

It's true that there are people who will see a hot woman and disregard everything else about their personality, but there are women who enjoy being a little sexy. A grown woman can have an intelligent side and a sexual side and take pride in both of them. Similarly, one woman's choices should never affect people's opinions of other women. No one should change their view of Amy based on Bernadette's choices or vice-versa, and challenging that idea is more logical than expecting all women to act the same

[@nicbentulan]

Thank God there's an actual discussion that doesn't UNJUSTLY criticise Amy's LEGAL DEMOCRATIC exercise of GOD-GIVEN RIGHT of free speech. God bless you whether or not I agree with you. Free speech. Both Amy & Bernadette can express opinions. Both you & I can express opinions. As long as the opinions are democratic. God bless UK the US democracy America the free world etc. Also happy Chinese new year from Hong Kong!

[@janise01]

There's also men who enjoy being sexy but as Amy pointed out there's no push for a 50 sexiest male scientists. Something like this isn't really about the individual person who may like to put on a sexy dress or whatever. The issue is about the overall culture of centering and prioritizing women's looks over other aspects of women as evidenced by an article like that even being pitched. IMO framing at just the individual "well some women like being sexy" ignores the overall cultural problems and their impact.

[@Dragonkid1801]

​@@janise01I won't deny that there is a double standard, but personal choice has to be acknowledged in this discussion. For better or worse, there are women who agree to these kinds of photo shoots of their own free will. The culture persists because people choose to participate in it. If we're gonna change it, we need to understand why they did so and whether or not it was for the wrong reason

[@JoeyCalico-ne2ei]

There's will and grace characters and friends mixed in

[@nicbentulan]

Part1 - Dear TBBT please post the clip about this: -What's up buttercup? -What's the word hummingbird? -What's the gist physicist? Penny asked those to Sheldon in that chair episode 'The Infestation Hypothesis'. --- Part2 Also readers, now you make up more stuff to say to people in general or of specific professions eg: - What's cooking good looking? - What's happening later alligator? I made up: - What's the question mathematician? - What's unclear engineer? - What's the blur philosopher? - What's the best chess? - What's the best 9LX? --- Part3 From a chatbot: - **What's the scoop, group?** - **What's the beat, elite?** - **What's the plan, fan?** - **What's the tale, snail?** - **What's the crack, pack?** - **What's the vibe, tribe?** - **What's the scoop, loop?** - **What's the wave, rave?** - **What's the buzz, fuzz?** - **What's the score, more?** - **What's the charm, arm?** - **What's the spark, lark?** - **What's the story, glory?** - **What's the deal, appeal?** - **What's the word, bird?** --> (Hahaha family guy!) --- Part4 From a chatbot for professions! - **What's the rhyme chime?**: - poet or lyricist - **What's the beat treat?**: - music producer or DJ - **What's the pen zen?**: - writer or author - **What's the flow pro?**: - skilled rapper - **What's the groove move?**: - professional dancer - **What's the strum thumb?**: - talented guitarist - **What's the sketch fetch?**: - skilled illustrator or artist

[@StefanoBorini]

I would have no problem watching Neil Degrasse Tyson with a wet t-shirt on top of a Porsche.

[@achilles9448]

Even though I understand what Amy is saying but I do think she is still in the wrong and Bernadette shouldn't have to apologize because she was right,.. it is so damn easy to say oh I wouldn't do this or I'll totally do that when the opportunity doesn't come but if getting opportunity I'm sure a lot of email scientists would take them and I think Amy would too if given an opportunity, And if you would have asked the TBBY fans if you had to choose between all three ladies to be with who will you choose, I think a lot of us including myself would choose Bernadette, I don't get me wrong penny and Amy are wonderful ladies and they'll get a lot of attention as well but there's something special about Bernadette because she's not only smart and very attractive but she's also really sweet in fact I think she's the sweetest person on The Big bang theory we'll make sure so hot

[@matiaspereira9382]

I agree with most people here. Amy was wrong

[@EgoHead710]

So is Bernie though, technically.

[@nicbentulan]

Lol Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@renchii1002]

This is really funny scene 🤣

[@nicbentulan]

3rd: Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@tanyamoretz]

are you blind? or just stupid? amy literally interfered and the article was canceled because of her. it's one thing to have an opinion, it's completely other to shove your opinion in other people's throats against their will

[@nicbentulan]

​@@tanyamoretz So if I vote for trump and then trump wins, then I was shoving an opinion down the throats of people who voted for Biden?

[@pilotanimal192]

One you would one you won't , guess witch one is moaning about it . Mmm let me think .

[@sonicfan12e1]

Everyone in Sheldon's Friend group is so bi omg

[@architanaik1420]

I think Amy was right here

[@AlexLopez-qj1or]

Her opinion was right but going behind Bernadette back to ruin her chance for some publicity isn't.

[@diehardrvdfan22]

Amy was almost entirely right here. I'd say the only thing should did wrong was not telling Bernadette about the email ahead of time. It didn't come across like it had anything to do with jealousy, so that kind of came out nowhere.

[@nicbentulan]

Why does Amy have tell Bernadette about the email? Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@Mack_au]

Don’t tell anyone what you’re doing until it’s done. Outside energy can throw off goals. Unknown

[@nicbentulan]

​@@Mack_au Insightful

[@happyjay]

what does the "wake up the girls?" at 0:40 mean?

[@user-ht4ct6in9z]

When a women gets cold her nipples harden and can sometimes be seen through clothes depending on the bra she is wearing. It's fairly obvious and can be eye catching so Penny uses it to distract the male doctors she is trying to sell to.

[@nicbentulan]

How old are you?

[@19godfather93]

Get the nipples hard by turning the AC up is what she means. Quite disgusting even for sales.

[@UncleForHire]

Make her shirt slightly see through so the nipples show?

[@happyjay]

44 @@nicbentulan

[@Vader91]

I been hoping this video would get uploaded so I get the chance to say Amy was in the wrong I think she was secretly jealous of bernadette and bernadette should not have apologized

[@nicbentulan]

1 - Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it. 2 - How do you disprove jealousy on Amy's part and prove that Amy genuinely believes that? 3 - whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[@Vader91]

@@nicbentulan I'm sorry innocent until proven guilty she actually admits to what she did and yes it was probably an opinion but it still wasn't Amy's business it was for bernadette and her alone

[@nicbentulan]

@@Vader91 So if my friend wants to vote for Biden then because it's none of my business why have I lost my right to vote for trump?

[@Vader91]

@@nicbentulan uh wait did you just tell me you're a trumper cuz if you are this is automatically over

[@AlexLopez-qj1or]

​@@nicbentulanthat totally different situation though. If your friends was running for president and you chose to write an email saying he shouldn't, Makes more sense but clearly you're not smart enough to make sense

[@danielmoravia1049]

I understand Amy, sadly millionaires and good looking people get more attention and have better lives than someone who doesn't have these things, people say stuff like that bring other problems but they still sound spoiled to me. What Amy did hardly level up the game in a world like this, but brings a smile since she's representing.

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

She is a micro-biologist.

[@plouifasol]

Amy shouldn't have sent the email (or at least talking about Bernadette), but was right about women and science. These acts not only promote just the sexualisation of women, but don't help in making women being taken seriously in the field. Both points are reinforced when seeing that it is completely the opposite for men. Other than that, these photoshoots would be fine if women were as praised as men, treated equally, and if scientists males were also targeted.

[@nicbentulan]

So why shouldn't Amy have sent the email? Amy expressed an opinion. Did Amy hold a knife to their throats? This is democracy. Deal with it.

[@princesslulu5795]

If she had a point then why does her sending a message expressing her opinion matter?

[@plouifasol]

@@nicbentulan You know what? Leaving your "deal with it" to one side, you're right. After listening again to what Amy wrote in that email, I see clearly that she just expressed her opinion. She didn't talk about Bernadette or anyone specifically. So it was fine to do.

[@nicbentulan]

@@plouifasol Happy Easter Ramadan and Passover! Lol I said 'deal with it' mostly kinda like to 'bait' people re Cunningham's Law. Empathy doesn't get reactions while rousing them to (unjustified) anger usually does. Hope you understand. Anyhoo thanks. I guess it depends on what exactly was sent in the email. People speculate Amy actually coerced them by threatening their jobs or reputation based on Amy's academic standing. Like ok hypothetically if true then Amy is definitely wrong, but I prefer to give people the BOTD.

[@faeriequeenie1714]

Amy is right.

[@BlueLightningSky]

If you wanna know if what you're doing is demeaning to women, just ask if they would do that for a men. If Raj doesn't get a chance to be number sexiest astrophysicist then neither does Bernadette.

[@robertlunderwood]

Another question. Is it appropriate for Bernadette to be doing a sexy photoshoot given that she is a married woman?

[@EgoHead710]

Yes.

[@user-ht4ct6in9z]

If her husband and she together decide that it's a good idea. The kind of things can cause major conflict in marriages if they aren't talked about. If they are both fine with it then I see no problem, but if he is uncomfortable with it then she shouldn't do it. I would not do something like this if it made my husband uncomfortable, just like I am sure he wouldn't do something like this if it made me uncomfortable. Part of being married is making decisions together. It is no longer as simple as 'This is good for me so I'm doing it.' Attitudes like that are why marriages break down.

[@robertlunderwood]

@@user-ht4ct6in9z But that's my point though. Did they discuss it at all? Most men would not be comfortable with their wives showing off like that for the rest of the world to see. It's the same reason that men generally don't marry promiscuous women.

[@nicbentulan]

​@@robertlunderwood There's no evidence Bernadette didn't discuss with Howard. There's no evidence Amy coerced the magazine. For evidence of either the respective party is wrong. 🤝 Deal?

[@Berlynic]

Amy is right on this one. I agree 100%. There's no justification for objectifying a human being.

[@9k49]

Even if Amy has that belief, she has no right to go behind Bernadette’s back and ‘act’ on that belief