Bernie Sanders On Voting Third Party

[@500Diegoperez]

my vote isnt a protest vote..... it's clearly voting for the better candidate.

[@DySnape]

Exactly. 👌👌

[@zacg_]

Then call it a "statement vote" but don't kid yourself about the consequences of your vote. Come November you will either help Trump win or help Trump lose. Those are the only real world effects of your vote. And the only way to hurt his chances of winning is to vote for Hillary. So take your pick.

[@SatoshiKurokawa]

Exactly. Come November, Jill gets my vote. If Trump wins, Hillary and the DNC have only themselves to blame for being as shitty as they are. I refuse to be guilted into voting for Hillary. She isn't the devil but she damn sure as hell lives in the same building.

[@Code_Dee]

Honestly Jill Stein isn't far enough left for me, I'd rather write in my own name. After all, I represent my views better than anyone...

[@danielmurphy123]

You might be right. Too bad the better candidate(s) have no chance of actually winning. Voting for anyone other than Clinton is only increasing Trumps chances of winning. Any reasonable person should want to prevent that from happening.

[@gregcampwriter]

A third-party vote isn't a protest vote. It's a vote for a better candidate.

[@gregcampwriter]

Thanks for your reply that proves you have nothing but bigotry to offer. Run along, now.

[@RoseLeafmockingjay]

Yes, vote for the best candidate, then maybe someday we will finally get a decent president that doesn't sell out the middle class. Clinton or Trump both bad for middle class, either really doesn't make a difference.

[@falcoperegrinus82]

Nah, pretty sure it's a vote for Trump.

[@ryushishiratori2312]

They won't win in this system. It just won't happen.

[@gregcampwriter]

The only reason that's true is that the people haven't borken out of sheepish obedience to Democrats and Republicans. If people think for themselves and vote independently, any party can win.

[@Richard.Atkinson]

This makes me much more likely to vote 3rd party.

[@kkingcombo12345]

Are you 3 years old?

[@thatsnotpudding]

Obviously not if hes voting ...

[@spongegar2248]

who Jill or gary

[@DeviantDespot]

3rd party, never voting for Hilary or Trump.

[@500Diegoperez]

Jill has my vote.

[@Cryptonymicus]

Then you're an idiot.

[@calebosburn1451]

where did you get that information from?

[@MutatedPizzaBoi]

Says the idiot who is either voting for Hillary of Trump and thinks there's a difference LMAO.

[@denishoesein7370]

Aslong its not Hillary

[@Thekingbee]

I am not comfortable with Hillary for 8 years of corruption than Trump for 4 years. This is not a protest vote. My values aligned with Jill Stein.

[@SupaKoopaKid64]

Same here. I'm sticking with Jill.

[@GeordiLaForgery]

If Trump/Hillary wins then ONLY their supporters are to blame, no one else.

[@meruemo776]

There is no way in hell Hillary will be in office for 8 years. Her health will worsen and might die before that

[@Mlogan11]

First you have NO idea if the winner will get eight years or four years. next, if you think Trump will not be corrupt and also grossly incompetent, you are politically illiterate and should just sit this one out.

[@Thekingbee]

She only needs to hold on to 4 years and try to get reelected. Then pass her corruption torch to someone else to take her place.

[@bobd5119]

Sorry, Bernie. I am voting for what I think is right. That is not Hillary. And, no, it is not Trump. If enough voters vote for Trump to get him into office, so be it. During the primaries, I commented that the safest course was for Hillary to withdraw. That is still true.

[@alexanderryzhov7046]

Well said. Hillary is playing with fire by staying in the race when it's obvious Trump will crush her and the country will be better off is she drops out and lets Bernie step in.

[@ryushishiratori2312]

So the supreme court doesn't matter? Ok.

[@Keldrath]

He can warn all he wants, it's not going to sway me. I'm not voting for evil, that's the biggest problem with our system.

[@Rosannasfriend]

Font listen to dead squirrel , cowards like him are why we 're still at the mercy of Wall Street indebted, war hawking politicians. They scare themselves snd others into choosing the lesser evil.

[@ama3583]

***** wait I thought Hillary was the lesser evil to liberal, what do you people have against Trump? He wants to bring back jobs to the country, help veterans that were left in the cold, protect the Second Amendment, he wants to take out Isis and he he has a parent leave policy so he's also a liberal just like you. So what do black people like you have to lose?

[@Rosannasfriend]

I just said Hillary's the lesser evil. .... You're trying to scare ppl into voting for her. YOU go ahead and vote for her, she won't win with my help. She'll win with your help and those who want to vote for her.

[@ama3583]

***** I'm not complaining.

[@kimweaver3323]

The biggest problem is the navel-gazing arrogant and ignorant buffoons who MUST remain politically and ethically "pure". You make me puke. You will stand by and watch the train wreck when you could have helped to pull the switch to avoid it and will THEN smugly claim that you weren't responsible. You go up against the wall first.

[@sarahszabo4323]

I'm not voting for Hillary or Trump, because either one does not deserve my vote. I don't like authoritarianism.

[@sarahszabo4323]

paper mechanic Not doing a protest vote, don't be a shit candidate.

[@Marchant2]

Cut off your nose to spite your face. How mature.

[@sarahszabo4323]

Marchant2 Uhm, no. I'm voting for the whatever candidate is better on policy and practice than proto-fascist1 or proto-fascist2. Why should I vote for either one, they both seem to be the same type of person. People are concentrating on their differences, and granted, they do have a few, but they look mostly the same to me. I have no interest in voting for people I don't think deserve my vote. Neither one can be trusted.

[@Marchant2]

Sarah Szabo Then enjoy those Trump years because that's what you're really for no matter how you spin it.

[@sarahszabo4323]

Marchant2 Then I have no one to blame but my peers. Don't vote for a fascist.

[@Rainbowfl0wer]

Stop scaring us with the " Trump might win" threat, we shouldn't have to choose the lesser evil!!

[@calebosburn1451]

it is not "scaring". it is telling you reality

[@Rosannasfriend]

Agreed. Vote conscience.

[@anonv2.031]

When you grow up, a lot of life is choosing the lesser evil. You gotta deal with it.

[@umejiaku6]

When you grow up, you'll realize that your definition of evil had been skewed. A lesser evil would be suffering through 4 years of a maniac to rile of citizens and make way for a revolution. A greater evil would be 8 years of the corruption covered by the media and forgotten. This will continue until another revolutionary comes forth, whenever that will be. Then the process will repeat, and if people like you are still the majority then justice will lose again.

[@mosespelican3507]

interesting idea....if we all voted for stein...he would win, the problem with Hillary supporters is that they arent willing to take that statement to themselves...if you dont vote for Stein and vote for hilary then you are letting trump win, cause Stein's supporters arent changing their vote...

[@joseywales7829]

Wow i supported Bernie all the way till the end, but since the end he has done nothing but disappoint me

[@joseywales7829]

after listening i love jimmy dore more each day.

[@rightwingofthenuthouse]

Oh, even his joining of protesting the pipeline, and his work to keep the movement going, and his fight against Trump? Constant disappointment?

[@vvictor2266]

What do you suppose he do? Attack Hillary and give trump the presidency?

[@jonathanreiman7417]

I totally agree with you except for that entire first part.

[@AcbLynn132]

Thats becuz u r a child

[@EdertheJust]

Bernie wants us to vote for a person who clearly doesn't share his constituents values and hopefully when they are elected, we can change them? Uhhhhh Bernie, I don't think that will work. I am not going to vote for Hillary out of fear.

[@monserratcortes287]

If u dont vote for hillary trump will win .

[@EdertheJust]

Monserrat Cortes I cant honestly vote out of fear.

[@calebosburn1451]

then you are voting for Trump; Jill stein or Gary Johnson will never win.

[@Rosannasfriend]

Vote your conscience . It's not your fault hillary wasn't a convincing candidate . It isn't your job to guarantee her winning just because she's a democrat. That's called taking voters for granted . Take back your power'

[@ryan52035]

+CIVINT I feel like this election is the first one where a third party candidate actually stands a chance, due to how hated Clinton and Trump are. The idea that voting for a third party is just throwing away your vote ensures that the system remains as it is. And I'm not so confident Hillary can win anymore. There's a new gaffe/scandal every week with her, and unlike with Trumps weekly goofs, her blunders actually hurt her. She picked a shitty time to get sick, considering the rumors that were going around about her health. How someone who is so qualified on paper (former First Lady, Senator AND Secretary of State!) could be doing so poorly against a joke like Trump is surreal, which is all the more reason to take a chance and go for actual change. And if Trump does win, at least it will be one hell of a ride. Like being tied to a neutron bomb and shot into a star that that's going supernova. Or we could get lucky and Trump will only nuke the southern hemisphere.

[@dantyrrell3300]

Voting for who you want in office is not a protest vote

[@Sam-pj8yp]

If you can't have your cake, eat the sandwich, because otherwise you'll be eating scraps.

[@bernlin2000]

We can do better...when we walk away from both options. Stop holding your nose, voting for people, and turn to the candidates you can actually be proud to vote for. They do exist...

[@clarityjane31]

I can not vote Hillary or Trump both are jokes....Jill for me..hillary is the biggest risk

[@markclark5]

History proved Bernie right again

[@ZeckKoa]

i will never vote for a Republican either Hillary or Trump.

[@oolong2]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Sanders said... Most of you people bitching and moaning about him supporting the Democratic platform *wouldn't* *even* *know* *who* *he* *is* if it wasn't for the fact that he ran in the Democratic Primary. Sanders would not be where he is today if he didn't caucus with the Democrats and if he didn't run as a democrat. Sanders is coming from decades of experience, not 6 months of "feeling the Bern"

[@nosavepoints]

You mention listening to Bernie because of decades of experience right? Guess what, with his experience he should know that the whole 'Democratic Platform' is just a piece of paper and there is no binding agreement that states that the elected Democrat officials have to follow it. Just like how the electoral college doesn't have to vote how the people do.

[@oolong2]

No Save Points He does know that, which is why he's asking for a movement day one to back it up and pressure the politicians at the local state and federal level to abide by the platform and go even further. What is your plan exactly? Bitch and moan? Throw away your vote? Because some people (like Sanders) actually want to fight to get these polices done.

[@2126Eliza]

Truth. Bunch of babies, new to politics, never lifted a finger for a cause, passionate, stupid, arrogant.

[@EduardoGarcia-eh2rn]

Bernie Sanders and will regret supporting hillary.....guaranteed.

[@hallerd]

the other candidate is Donald Trump

[@kavian9620]

*sigh*...He's not REALLY supporting Hillary genius...he is anti-Trump, why can't you people understand the not so subtle difference?

[@beckybuchko9067]

I believe he is supporting her so he does not become suicided.

[@EduardoGarcia-eh2rn]

I know...thats the problem. The two party system is the problem. And if you participate in this corrupt system, then u become part of the problem.

[@GirugaMarc]

If you participate in the electing of Donald Trump as president, either by withholding your vote or voting for an nonviable condidate, *YOU* are part of them problem. There has never been a moment in decades quite like this where a candidate so hate-filled, so racist and xenophobic... who has *no clue whatsoever what it means to be president of the United States*... has a clear shot at becoming president. And yet you want to play the childish act of "leaving and taking your ball with you". As a minority this rhetoric is scary. My one true enemy may become president of the United States because of some selfish liberals. I dislike Hillary just as much as you, but I know what is at stake here.

[@Quid100]

Voting 3rd party in a U.S. election is as impotent as sending thoughts and prayers to a victim of violence.

[@marv34001]

Thats voting in general

[@RXdash78]

...and then sending guns to more nutjobs. At least thoughst and prayers do nothing. 3rd partiers are actively helping the worst elements.

[@marv34001]

RXdash78 I know right how dare people vote for who they want to rule. There should obviously be controlled elections that stops the minorities will.

[@Quid100]

marv34001 you can vote for who you want. However, in our system of government voting 3rd party (national level, of course) is an impotent vote. You may as well write in David Bowie for all the chance a 3rd party has. It's part of how the world actually works vs. How you wished it worked.

[@Quid100]

Titus Assle One needs only compare the actions of the campaign trail to see which party encourages violence and which one does not. (Hint: You're wrong)

[@Jaguarblack_lofi]

I can't believe it. Stein is the best choice! Sanders actually said something that didn't makes since.

[@NoName-rg3np]

It's not a protest vote. It's a vote for the candidate that best represents our values and policy stances.

[@Karabetter]

Green & Libertarians, let's join forces, rally the troops, and pledge to vote G or L! NOT d or r!

[@00Kaleidoscope00]

I will never understand america's illusion of choice. Being only able to choose between 2 parties does not sound democratic to me

[@jb678901]

It isn't.

[@FatumAlpha]

Yeah, that's the problem with a winner-takes-it-all single vote system. Basically one of the worst form of Democracy there is. Turns out that if you're the first one you're also one of the worst versions. xD

[@00Kaleidoscope00]

fatupha Modern-era citizen lawmaking began in the towns of Switzerland in the 13th century. But sure, keep on believing you are the first one. Before that, in ancient times the greeks already experimented with democracy.

[@FatumAlpha]

00Kaleidoscope00 I'm German. xD Is there a democracy that's still in place right now which is older than the US?

[@00Kaleidoscope00]

fatupha A democracy is a country where all it's adult citizens have the right to vote, which did not happen in america for a long time in america. Until 1870 many americans could not vote because they were held in slavery slavery and this was not formally addressed until the ratification of the 15th Amendment of the United States constitution in 1870, and even then not fully so until the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Until 1920 women were also not allowed to vote. So you can hardly say it is the oldest democracy

[@soulivan827]

"Falling in line" So you are saying voting isn't a freedom? Amazing.

[@warprat]

I side with Jimmy... After 30 years of voting straight Democrat, I'm voting for Jill and any other independent I can. I'm not supporting the Oligarchy.

[@KingClovis]

TYT should do your own Johnson/Stein debate!

[@jbomb7867]

great as that would be, TYT doesn't want Stein or Johnson. they want Clinton. they're just like Bernie.

[@jbomb7867]

great as that would be, TYT doesn't want Stein or Johnson. they want Clinton. they're just like Bernie.

[@DixonFrancoisJr]

Johnson refused that debate.

[@Rosannasfriend]

Johnson May change his mind, now that he and stein have been shut out of the first official debate.

[@KingClovis]

@Rock Lobster -Even so, they have consistently said they would cover third party candidates.

[@mindfulskills]

We should have listened to Bernie's warning.

[@808zhu]

GO GREEN 2016

[@noly310]

Down with Green!

[@manband20]

^ This guy is still mad about Nader.

[@Qingeaton]

Love you Bernie, but Clinton does not deserve my vote.

[@ADerpyReality]

Not voting is a protest vote which you can do in USA.

[@donmilikan2900]

This die hard Bernie fan disagrees with Bernie

[@SHILLGATESCRYPTO]

Smart man.

[@REfan001]

This die hard Bernie fan thinks you have your head up your ass

[@africaneedsdrugs]

This die hard Bernie fan thinks you're a kiss-ass.

[@autogenerate8857]

Voting third party is better than not voting at all.

[@ValiantVision]

I was a Bernie guy. Now, I have no respect for him. How dare he judge my vote. "Protest" vote. How about voting my conscience. Trump as prez will do MORE for Progressive's. It will propel a progressive in 2020. I'm going Green, baby!

[@ValiantVision]

And Trump is no more dangerous than Clinton.

[@David-sp9vd]

Ever been to your local green party meeting?

[@suewylie]

Great! Vote green is the only conscientious thing to do.

[@Vermonstered]

+Sue Wylie IF you don't care about who gets into the White House this election or the next 3+ Presidential Elections and side with Green. Since all a decent showing in the popular vote (they won't receive a single electoral vote) is just a little bit more money for the Green party in the future. Honestly, the biggest thing the Green party can take away from this election is exactly how to manipulate the media for free press like Trump did as if we learned anything from his nomination... so many people don't care about the actual plan, but just stating blind 'goals' that are hot buttons for certain groups of voters. The one issue voters love that rhetoric and in the current political environment it appears those one issue voters are now the majority.

[@ValiantVision]

blah blah. No revolution in your voice. you sound like fox.

[@jarronwilliams7227]

What Cenk said about Trump can be just as easily said about Hillary 4:27 . Tell me if I'm lying.

[@RickRusch]

truth

[@febthirteen5380]

Exactly!

[@JasonMcCarrell]

You are exaggerating; hence why we say lesser of two evils.

[@jarronwilliams7227]

Jason McCarrell it's really not a stretch at all

[@fuckthisbs]

Yes it is, hence the vote for Hilary. She was already secretary of state, and Obama didn't cause nuclear war and we're all still here and gas is around $2.20, which she'll basically be Obama 2.0. With trump, it's more like flipping a coin and hoping it doesn't land on the nuclear holocaust side.

[@knifetoucher]

As a white upper class male, I am VERY comfortable with a Trump presidency, thanks.

[@dantyrrell3300]

My Siri on voting is you vote for who you want in office. So that your government knows what you value and want.

[@HumbertTheHorse]

Bernie has become such a disappointment. Jill Stein is a better candidate then he ever could be.

[@johnsmith651]

considering both candidates have such high unfavorable ratings there really is no better time to vote third party

[@thekoolaidmaker5103]

Jimmy Dore is one of my favorite people alive today, period. I believe he's so important because few people I've ever seen have as much heart and courage. I do wish that he'd put down the stick sometimes in favor of the carrot. Maybe Clinton is ruthless, but she's playing a ruthless game against unscrupulous opposition, but I think behind every aggressive position or failed platform position, that she wants the best for America because that's the way that she will, and history will, define her by. I think some of her failings were due to party pressure to forcing bad decisions. I think some of her failings are due to corruption from top down that cripples some legislation. I think some of her failing are due to deliberate sabotage from oppositional groups. i think some of her failing are due to the inability to have a crystal ball and to correctly prognosticate how very dynamic situations will play themselves out when all the factors are in play. I think a lot of different things are probable, but I'm pretty certain she's trying to do whats best for the greatest number of Americans. peace and be well

[@human5639]

It's the Devil you know vs the Devil you don't.

[@human5639]

But feel free to vote 3rd party if you're in a safe state.

[@LoCoAde87]

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[@bernlin2000]

But we DO know both of them...Trump has been parading in front of our TV screens for decades. So has Clinton...they're both a parade of horribles, and known horribles.

[@freshness_ah7534]

#jillnothill #bernieorbust

[@alexanderfleming7162]

the real Bernie Sanders the one who spoke from the heart.

[@freshness_ah7534]

At least she won't rig the election to win! loolool

[@topdrawertoys]

+PanicScorp02 Using Kermit the Frog as an avatar is an infringement and direct violation of U.S. Copyright law and the KZbin user agreement. You're the loser, jerk.

[@hs5312]

At least Hillary is not so close to the far left.

[@abztraktt6403]

so it's OR BUST, idiot.

[@dhani5561]

I don't understand how some Bernie supporters don't even listen to Bernie.

[@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312]

voting isn't about winning it's about electing someone you feel represents you and your interests. it's not about defeating the other candidates. This is the pure essence of voting in my opinion. We have 4 running candidates but only 2 that are likely to even win. what do you do? You vote for who represents you the most and let the rest of American do there part quite simple just scary as hell.

[@MutatedPizzaBoi]

I do believe gentlemen... that this shall be the last TYT video I pain myself to watch.

[@LoCoAde87]

You'll be back before the sun goes down today.

[@AbracaDanielll]

no one will notice that you left. no one has even noticed that you were here to begin with, and no one cares either!

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

He'll be back. They always come back.

[@josuebarboza9809]

I will be back... always!... for the Lulz 😂😂😂

[@Numbuh7]

I've been watching for like 7 years and I might just be with you. Jimmy is one of the few sane ones left and I already have his channel in my subs.

[@bethanykarram2891]

I can't believe how delusional everyone is. This election has separated us as Americans.and it's sad. It's sad that things that 2 people say can make us turn against each other so much. All I can hope is that after this election we are able to heal the wounds that have been cast on to us and be able to grow together in a positive direction.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-sb1oy]

And 2 years later we still are deeply divided

[@AlaricHolmes]

Cenk, everything you talked about with regard to Trump consolidating power, breaking rules and getting away with it, and the country becoming something different from what it used to be -- that's EXACTLY the fear us progressives have of Clinton! They are one and the same in that regard!

[@AlaricHolmes]

And your assertions about "where they all are in the polls" is based on intentionally faulty polling. They've largely stopped talking to millennials and they ask questions like, "If the election were held today, who would you vote for?" which encourages tactical responses rather than "Who would you prefer to see become president?" which encourages preferential responses that reflect what people _want_ not what they will settle for.

[@AlaricHolmes]

6:40 -- If you can never get a 3PC into office, why have the parties changed, albeit slowly but still changed? After the Whigs imploded, the Republicans took over their position. You're right that our system enforces the duopoly, but parties can fall and be replaced. Yes, we need a better system, but that's not happening this time, and I'm not using my vote to pick one monster or the other. If you want to keep that shit-show going, that's on you.

[@elliottspence]

Bernie, you're an Independent... act like one.

[@jmcg1010]

I reckon Syrians and Libyans should get to vote on the US presidential election, seeing as it affects them way more than the average yank. Would they vote hillary? 0.o

[@crooy2841]

So, my takeaway is, Senator Sanders was elected and re-elected by "protest votes". Hmmm, seems to me the people of Vermont are very happy they used their "protest votes" to elect the most beloved senator in the history of the nation. I plan of protest voting from now on.

[@ChrisCa1601]

Speak for yourself, Bernie. I won't be voting for either. I might just sit this one out.

[@joshwalker8984]

***** That's apathetic and pathetic. You'd allow Trump to burn down this country because you had to protest vote? Did you forget Dubya already? Go ahead, tell me Dubya was wonderful and you'd like to repeat that with a dumber more bigoted republican...

[@SkywalkerWroc]

+...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead - Don't be apathetic, vote anti-science candidate? WTF?!

[@abel3619]

Always vote third party

[@JMKeynes8491]

A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for peace and a vote for Clinton is vote for war. How can Bernie advocate a vote for Clinton? As much as I hate to say it, he has sold out!

[@waynzwhirled6181]

Hey Cenk, we're already not the country we used to be. That said, you and Jimmy both make points that are tough to argue with. I'm just afraid we will go backward regardless of which candidate is elected. At least Trump would provide a new form of pathetic entertainment.

[@back1879]

yes lets vote for the guy who asked why we dont use nukes.

[@LMJ81]

Not just pathetic entertainment, 2 supreme court appointments plus senate and house majorities. Shit would hit the fan if Trump is elected and all these Jill supporters are clueless to how our politics work. Not everything is tree hugging and rainbows, our democratic republic is the most fragile it has ever been and Trump is the final straw.

[@CementCity]

Bottom line is this: Vote for who you want to be president. If everyone did that rather than voting out of fear, we'd see some real change.

[@PhdBmx]

I love jimmy

[@PrankSmith]

No one is going to sit there and tell me how I have to vote. How about we all vote for thr best canidate and see who wins...

[@afilm6262]

Thank you. This is exactly the thing. Why is it an issue?

[@Denitakis]

I'm voting for Jill Stein. No way I can vote for that warmonger.

[@Ex0dus111]

Jimmy is 100% correct. 4 years of Trump is better then 8 years of Hillary.

[@anishphi1]

How’s this aging

[@Ex0dus111]

@@anishphi1 Not well. I was wrong. About this, and about Jimmy.

[@samuelchaparro0410]

listen tyt voting is not about choosing the lesser of two evils. if voting means anything at all it means choosing a representative of you. the president of the united states has to much power for you to be choosing between lesser evils. this man or woman gets to decide the definition of acceptable losses. Americans citizens owe it to everybody who will be effected by the leader of the strongest army in the world, to find someone who won't define innocent civilians and more importantly children as acceptable losses. trump obviously doesn't give a damn but if Hillary supports non defensive wars and is willing to lie to your face, then u need to find someone else for the job. you owe it to every body effected by America's forigen policy. which as u know is every one.

[@comradedobler3407]

blah, blah, blah. Either Trump or Hillary are going to win. Which one do you want? It's really that simple. You can vote for somebody else but they won't get elected and you know what? Nobody will care who you voted for. Man up and pick a side.

[@Rosannasfriend]

Vote your principles . It shouldn't have to be defended.

[@comradedobler3407]

That's what Ralph Nader's crew thought and we ended up with the Iraq war and no action on climate change. Elections are for deciding who runs the country, not just for voicing your feelings. Make your vote count. Don't waste it.

[@ThePhunboy]

Cenk's last point is a strong one. This is an excellent description from all the participants of this political conundrum.

[@enkrypt7513]

hey looks like he's panicky, in the most horrible way. Like he's been got too!.

[@RickRusch]

he really was showing some tells, by his speech patern

[@Inferno361]

I'm voting for Jill. Hillary and Donald are terrible.

[@MrScottmonster]

It's amazing how badly Jimmy's "theories" held up a year later....

[@charlesanthony4693]

To all want to PROTEST VOTE AGAINST HILLARY REMEMBER THIS.....Ralph Nader was the SPOILER against AL Gore and we got George W Bush. Vote in PROTEST giving us Trump. I dislike Hillary BECAUSE I feel the Bern. I wanted Bernie be Hillary got the nod by the DNC so I support her over Trump any day.

[@rancidwraith3298]

Hillary is far worse than Gore and supported most George W. policies.

[@charlesanthony4693]

I agree, I wanted Bernie but do not want a Baffoon Trump with control of the nuke codes. Hillary is not my choice, go ahead pull the lever for Trump but do not be one of those who voted for George W or for Ralph Nader who ruined AL Gore and then deny pulling that lever. Own up to what you did as Trump fiddles as Washington DC burns down.

[@rancidwraith3298]

Charles Anthony I'm not totally convinced Clinton won't bring about WWIII.

[@charlesanthony4693]

I am not convinced Trump will not tank this economy and piss of the entire world. I am not convinced Trump will not launch nukes on Iran.

[@packjim56]

You mean Trump could break a bunch of rules like Obama did???

[@MrHav1k]

Ironic how the people who talk all day about giving up their guns want to talk about a revolution. Being nice and voting isn't doing shit.

[@Senumunu]

dam bernie after a certain point it is masochism.

[@benjisquenge]

If Hillary cared about winning this election she would put more effort into listening to the people instead of listening to her donors. However, Trump picking supreme court justices does scare me...... We are in between a rock and a hard place here, and I think regardless of who wins, America is going to become a lot more violent than ever before after this election. One thing that shocked me the most about this election is the fact that when it came down to it, the Republican party listened to their voters and made Trump the nominee. However, the Democrats listened to their voters and their donors, and decided that the donors are more important than the people. That is absolutely un-democratic, and this election has become about the fact that people are sick of the democratic party. They are so corrupted that they are just as bad as the banks, and they need to be taken down.

[@RoseLeafmockingjay]

Yes, true. All Clinton cares about are rich donors and getting rich herself.

[@carlozlobo1]

Choose Stein. Send a message.

[@benjisquenge]

Carlos Lobo I do choose Jill Stein, but not to send a message. I choose her because she is the person I agree with the most. She truly is a vote of my conscience.

[@MathewBrunetta]

I'm voting Jill Stein. I'm from New Jersey. I'm voting for the country I want, not the country I want to avoid. I don't care if it's effective now, doing the opposite has been far from effective as it is.

[@jamespolland4920]

I was a major Bernie supporter, now i am for Jill Stein, i still want to be for Bernie but can not follow his line of thought on this.... to vote for Hillary so Trump does not win, and focus on changing the Democratric to more Progressive, then where was Bernie when Tim Conova wanted his help. If Bernie wants us to follow then he has to lead by example and should have been fighting for those progressives now and not later. Because now we have to wait and in the mean time Hillary will have the back up in congress to do what she wants.... So no i will be voting Jill Stein... If Hillary wants to win she will have to earn this vote by becoming a real progressive herself which of course will never happen.

[@kthy0056]

Please don't associate all Bernie supporters with morons like James Polland. Most of us actually are voting for Hillary (I even volunteer for her here in PA) while he sits with a thumb up his ass pretending to be a liberal and secretly hoping Donald Trump wins.

[@2126Eliza]

The prince of Crime I think this is where I have to part with the left. This election has shown an embarrassing tendency of liberals, like Trump supporters, to live entirely in their own fantasy world where compromise is a bad word and working for change, gasp, who works for change instead of whining like a baby and expecting Bernie or Clinton to rush over and breastfeed their fears away??

[@jamespolland4920]

birlyth so how does it feel to be cattle, believe what your told and not think for yourself???? i am and have always been an independent voter, when Bernie ran i was actually thinking of becoming democrat so glad i didn't... so to call me a moron or having a thumb up my ass just makes you an imbecile to actually believe Hillary or Trump have your best interests at heart and its people like you that will keep the establishment always in power... you are also probably on the police side at standing rock... so until all people wake up we will always have a two party system where the establishment wins and we the people of the USA will keep loosing our rights. now when Hillary wins remember this you asked for it and only have yourself to blame....

[@kthy0056]

James Polland 😂😂😂 keep crying trumptard

[@jamespolland4920]

birlyth so are you a shillary troll hired by her to spew this imbecilic rhetoric??? seriously would like to know because if you arent then i really do feel sad for our country.. Name calling is just a sign of a small mind... no wonder you are backing her, you have no mind of your own. just insults and name calling you have no policy or conviction to stand behind.

[@kevisa1878]

TYT, why don't you do a ask your viewers survey again? 3 words, Trump or Hillary?

[@jamieee321]

"Trump or Hillary or Other?" How's that?

[@RocketmanRockyMatrix]

Trump or Clinton or Johnson or Stein?

[@kristin4840]

Voting for the best candidate that represents what I believe in. Isn't that what democracy is? Jill Stein 2016

[@cisco3111]

ahhh yes continue to listen to the Socalist Swindler himself...

[@ocelotecpatl]

It's not a protest vote if I been voting green party since I was 18 since the time of W. Bernie Sanders is the first presidential candidate that I voted Democrat.

[@JohnDoe-ue4sn]

So its people like you that got bush elected.

[@ocelotecpatl]

John Doe No. If you look at the numbers, it was Democrats who decided to vote Republican that election.

[@stgrsa]

It was election fraud in FL and Gore's failure to win his own home state that allowed Bush to literally steal that election.

[@RocketmanRockyMatrix]

+John Doe Gore lost because of Al Gore.

[@stgrsa]

Gore literally won that election. The Republican controlled Supreme Court overturned the FL Supreme Courts ruling of a recount which would have proven Gore to have been the winner. Even before the election W's brother (who was governor of FL at the time) had worked with his administration to purge the states voter list of thousands of likely Democratic voters. You can look this up, Gore won the election.

[@taniwa08]

I'm voting for Gary Johnson. I really like his views, but I must admit if Jill Stein was on my NC ballet I would definitely be voting for her. The Green Party rules!

[@MojoGuitarPlayer]

We cannot take 4 years of Clinton either, so........ #ImWithJill

[@back1879]

ok, you obviously want trump to be president and nuke any country that looks at him funny

[@MojoGuitarPlayer]

Clinton voted for the Iraq war, was instrumental in Libya and she said she would draw a red line in Syria. That would provoke a war there and possibly with Russia as well. Trump has not said anything about starting a war. Clinton is worse than Trump when it comes to foreign policy.

[@Mlogan11]

Hate to burst your bubble but Jill is at 3%- you will get Trump or Hillary whether you like it or not.

[@LinuxUsersAreHung]

cenk needs a lesson in history. we have been through some shitty presidents, coming out on the other end better than before. perfect example, James Buchanan then Abe Lincoln.

[@LinuxUsersAreHung]

www.lolwot.com/20-worst-u-s-presidents-of-all-time/

[@ryushishiratori2312]

Still not rolling the dice on trump.

[@LinuxUsersAreHung]

Ryushi Shiratori I feel ya 😉

[@Gooberpatrol66]

Lincoln was not worth a civil war.

[@aaronmoran4466]

Literally the only thing I disagree with Bernie on and it will never change.

[@falcoperegrinus2292]

Sanders is shilling so hard for Hillary right now. What a shame. I'm voting for Jill Stein and that's final. In my opinion, she's the best candidate.

[@mustimon]

Like all TYT Videos don't let neocon trolls Winn!!!!

[@AlaricHolmes]

The comparison with Fox News is ludicrous. TYT is a thousand times more honest about their motivations and what they're presenting: progressive news _commentary._

[@mustimon]

Panzafat So you are not for progressiv Ideas? Are you regressiv?

[@bobshenix]

Neocon trolls?? Lol TYT agrees with neocons (like Hillary) far more than the right-wingers and libertarians trolling TYT..... dumbass!

[@mustimon]

***** Hillary is not a Neocon shes a neo Liberal. Shes Comparable to moderat Republicans but not Fascists like Trump!!

[@ScotCampbellwindowpainter]

I agree with Jimmy.

[@nicholaskieler3667]

#SelloutBernie I want my money back

[@lezgóh]

Bernie $anders

[@acdc2961]

Completely agree with Cenk and Ben

[@knowthyself2659]

Third party candidates can win: people.howstuffworks.com/10-third-party-presidential-candidates10.htm

[@MrHav1k]

He's right. It'd be totally different if Stein/Johnson were gaining traction and had a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elects, but they don't so third party IS a protest vote/wasted voted and will always be stupid.

[@kthy0056]

They didn't even have enough to get into the debates, and they needed a boost from the debates. If the polls were close, I would've considered voting for third party myself. But voting for a candidate that polls at 3% or at 9% is just throwing your vote away.

[@dookdawg214]

Third parties don't gain rapid traction because of group-think bias. The only way to make them grow is to build their numbers little by little. They don't just one day lead the way. They have to rise to 10%. Then maybe 15% a few years later. Then 30% after a decade or so. That's how smaller parties gain traction -- over many years. It's unfortunate that the US only has one round of voting. In other countries -- France for instance -- you have two rounds. This allows voters to choose who they really want in the first round, and then they choose the best of the two remaining candidates in the second round. Such a system doesn't necessarily put smaller parties into power, but it does put more pressure on the main parties to listen to their voters. In 2002, the French protest-voted against the Socialist Party and the extreme-right-wing Front National won the first round. This led to the whole country coming together to vote for the moderate-right UMP and the Socialst Party was forced to rethink its platform.

[@kthy0056]

dookdawg214 We're not in France. In America every time a third party does well in one election, it gets less and less votes as time goes on. ex: Ted Roosevelt's progressive party, Eugene Debs's Socialist Party, Ross Perot's Reform Party, Nader after 2000. Group-think bias is not going to go away if a party doesn't have local and state-level succes. This is why Gary Johnson does a bit better than Jill Stein, he's slightly more popular because he used to be a governor. But until they start having governor seats within that party, and senators and representatives and mayors and prove that they can help the people, majority will not trust them. That's how the GOP elected Lincoln, by taking over the House of Representatives and Senate before winning the presidency.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-sb1oy]

How the hell are they supposed to get traction when assholes like you vote shame and comply to corrupt warmonhers?? The most ethical option is to vote third party.

[@BENYJOSE1]

I don't know that I've ever agreed with Jimmy Dore.

[@Some_Cool_Dude]

Ok to be fair this is the most reasonable argument Jimmy doore has ever put forward on this show for his position, bravo sir

[@martinduplessis3614]

Bernie Sanders has showed a fine balance of intellectual honesty and political realism in his interventions since his endorsement of Hillary Clinton. He is the polar opposite of a sellout.

[@edkemper4385]

Cenk, I'm 65. How much longer you you personally feel I should wait for "my party" to start representing me? I've personally waited for over 40 years. How old are you? You have the luxury of time I no longer have.

[@zada1248]

My 'alternative theory' about voting is everyone votes for their first preference rather than against their least favourite.

[@dustinsmith93]

I only watch TYT for John and Jimmy. #CenkTheSellOut

[@jedgarsquink]

The electoral college system does not institute a two-party system. There have been at least two elections where more than two candidates carried states and the winner still had a majority of the electoral vote. We almost had a third case in 1992.

[@jedgarsquink]

It would be possible to amend the Constitution so that only a plurality of the electoral vote was required, or, say, a 40% plurality. (40% plurality is the threshold for victory in a North Carolina primary; if nobody gets that there's a top-two runoff.) That's a constitutional amendment that could actually pass and have a chance of being ratified.

[@jedgarsquink]

If anything, the electoral college system is a big part of the reason it makes sense for alternative parties to run presidential candidates. It gives them a way to meet ballot access thresholds for the next election in many states, usually without any actual spoiler effect at all. This cannot be said of any other race.

[@coinflipwolfe3734]

Statistically speaking, the third party candidates could get a majority vote and still lose the electoral college. Barring the two non-winner-take-all states, (of course this is plain and simple a hypothetical), if the third party got 40% in each state, you could still have a democrat or a republican president based on the +20% of the population. (Someone correct me on my numbers if I'm wrong, I'm using this in my US History class and my economics.)

[@jedgarsquink]

Bishop Dakota It is mathematically possible for the candidate with a popular vote majority or plurality to not win the electoral vote for a variety of reasons, under the current rules or those I'm suggesting. A 40% plurality means the largest number, and also at least 40% of total. In all states, under current rules, simple plurality carries for the presidential race. In Maine and Nebraska, this principle is applied by congressional district for all but two of the state's electors. A majority of electors is then required to win the electoral vote, under current rules. It is possible to get this by getting plurality victories in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes. In our last election with 3 strong candidates (1992), Clinton got 370 electoral votes with only 43% of the popular vote. Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote and no electoral votes. This illustrates the usual pattern that the candidate with the largest popular vote also wins the electoral vote, but the electoral vote margin of victory is much more exaggerated. If the rule were changed to 40% plurality in the electoral college, the threshold would be getting 216 electoral votes and also not having any other candidate get more than you do.

[@JillianRThomas]

On point as always Jimmy! 😘

[@YEETMcSKEET69]

"If I ever tell you to vote for someone. Don't listen to me" - Bernie

[@eboy4032]

I think that with the internet the average person is more informed than the average person was when this nation was young. Therefore we no longer need a representative system for electing presidents. A popular vote will work.

[@MichaelDVaughn]

Thank you for your point on non-swing states. Here in Arkansas, any party who's Presidential candidate gets 3% of the state's vote, gets automatic ballot access for 2018, official party status as opposed to new party status, and a March 1st primary as opposed to picking candidates by convention in the October prior. These are big steps towards legitimacy for future elections, not only to the voting public, but to the quality of candidate you can appeal to.

[@schaughtful]

The choice is a crook who loves war criminals or a crook who loves war criminals. What are my options again?

[@karlheven8328]

Ben is so right . The electoral college needs to be abolished. And a proportional allocation of votes needs to be implemented. So that actually if a Candidate gets the most VOTES, wins.

[@devorahacts]

But also Cenk doesn't want to take the risk, but this same pattern of choosing Left candidates who are moving the Democratic party to the Right is what got us here. Doing it again will not improve this. And Ben is WRONG. It happened with Abraham Lincoln. He made the Republican party permanently relevant. The Whigs were there before them but THEY stopped servign the people.