Best 2023 Protoss vs Terran Build order Guide

[@PoneryBugsnax]

All this taught me is that if I chrono boost my workers harstem is going to throw rocks through my windows

[@Blacky372]

Thanks for sharing and making it comprehensive instead of just showing the build.

[@facundosoler2200]

BUILD ORDER : 17 ASSIMILATOR 18 probe to gas 19 probe to minerals (right after this pull a probe from minerals to scout your natural at 1:09 / 1:10 and this probe builds the Core at 1:24) 20 Nexus + Core (Core NEEDS to go down at 1:24 max otherwise you're doing something wrong) 20 probe to gas 21 ASSIMILATOR 21 probe to gas 2 adepts then Twilight +1 more gate (2) Blink + Robo + 3rd gate (3rd gate starts building when WARP GATE 75% completed) At 38 supply add 2 extra pylons (one in your main covering the edge for drops and 1 at your 3rd covering that path as well) 3rd NEXUS before proxy warpin (8 total stalks) or right after it (game dependent). TRANSITION : - Forge (if you're going for the colosus first transition get +1 attack, if u go for charge first go +1 armor) - Charge - +5 extra gates (Total 8) - 3 Colosus (you can either go colosus first then charge or charge first with immortals instead of colosus as needed). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTES: - 2 adepts BEFORE Twilight (These adepts are important for both scouting with shade and covering potential rushes from terran like a 3 Rax). 4.30 Prism comes out and there's already 5 stalkers. (will be 8 with the proxy warpin of 3 more stalkers) - DO NOT build an obserber after prism as you need the gas for the 3 extra stalker warpin. Instead get it after your blink stalker attack / harrass is finished to scout their transition.

[@criticalfyi]

MVP

[@ryanleetravels]

put the full build for fucks sake its 21 pylon and its core before nexus. you wrote it so confusing i dont get it.

[@mk9326]

Thank you for these build orders captain! You’re a hero to all Protoss players.

[@Arcane_123]

Amazing build guide! Thank you Harstem!

[@Arcane_123]

I would love an updated modern PvZ macro build, and maybe some safe PvP build?

[@sticklane]

Would love to see guides for pvp and pvz! My builds have gotten a bit stale over the past year. I know at my level (D2 NA) the build doesn't "matter" compared to just macroing, but it still feels motivating and fun to try to perfect a meta build.

[@people3865]

I'd say at D2 build orders actually do matter a lot. I'm M1 Zerg and M3 Toss currently, and Diamond is when you need to have build orders. At least one per race.

[@thatexcitement1977]

​@@people3865Absolutely agree, I was stuck in D2 for a while until I got a decently proper build order for each matchup which had me in M2 within a month or so. D2 is that perfect range where players have started to get a feel for the mechanics of the game but get lost REALLY easy so just having a build order that can give you that mental flowchart honestly does half the work for you.

[@sticklane]

@@people3865I agree you need builds in diamond. I'm more saying they don't have to be good builds (but it's fun to learn good builds!)

[@papa3270]

hi Harstem, thank you so much for the content and the fine assertive delivery ;) Would also love to see similar stuff for PvZ and PvP. I know there are websites focusing on BO already, but not always adapted to the current patch. You know better; please teach us :)

[@JeffGessas]

I don't play starcraft (I haven't since wings of liberty in college) but I watch it sometimes and recently found your channel. I just wanted to say all the content you make is really stellar. Really crisp funny casting, excellent guides and educational content for all levels of play, and funny cheese and self-imposed difficulty challenges. I enjoy what you do a lot!

[@joshjohnson456]

Been awhile since I've watched a build order video, but from my memory this one stands above the rest. You go over different scenarios and the subtle changes in each one - which is a step I rarely see.

[@alexandercasian4904]

✏ first marine finishes at 1:46, the reaper at 2:00. CC goes down at ~1:40 Chrono the 1st adept, and start the warp gate at the same time Chrono on the 2nd adept,. The 1st one is sent across the map Twilight council after the 2nd adept (when gas allows it). 2nd gate right after that. Don't chrono workers. Start blink and chrono it. Robo, and then 3rd gate. 3rd gate goes at ~76/100 of the Cybernetics core. ---- 2 adepts -> Twilight council + 2nd gate. -> Blink -> Robo + 3rd gate

[@TheHadMatters]

I was gonna ask how those undetailed notes were enough for you to practice the build order, but then it hit me. So for anyone who wonders the same thing: You can click the link to the replay in the description, and without downloading it, in your browser, follow the details to Harstem Stats => Build Order in order to check the order of all units and buildings made. The supply count estimates on the website are completely wrong, but once you have the order correct, you can check the supply timings in the video fairly easily. The only thing that's not mentioned there are movement details like sending the scout probe at 18 supply. The supply timings are always for when the building starts, so if it's far away from the nexus, move the probe early. Something I've been trying to teach myself is to always look for probes to use for building at the nexus rather than at the resources. It's not intuitive for me, and it makes it easier not to waste a probe's collected resources for the time you're sending it around the map.

[@alexandercasian4904]

@@TheHadMatters I guess it's just that after 2k hours in game (mostly Z, but many hours on P and T) I have to only put down those elements of the build that are new to me or different from a standard one. Also, I'm just noticing the minimum enough to then play the same build for 10-20 games in a row until I remember it. I don't like to download replays and rely on them, maybe because I was encountering too often build incompatibility errors with those, plus the YT video seems more than enough to me.

[@facundosoler2200]

I realized I was almost always putting down my cyber past the 1:24 mark. No wonder reapers got into my base before I got my first adept ! These benchmarks are so useful ! I was doing all sorts of bad things missing timings on my gates , etc. Now I think I understand how high level players get so many stalkers early on. The tip on the warp gate research % to place the 3rd gate super useful as well. Thanks a ton Harstem !! You're the best !

[@YoshiKirishima]

WOOO thank you !! Was just starting to learn Protoss and it's so hard to find relevant BOs/guides these days

[@fetherfulbiped]

Very nice guide, I'm just not sure whether we should chronoboost probes or not

[@maximuscalistopontifice1042]

Then that's stuff! This is a video, not a Q&A!

[@adrienguibal6431]

Yes chronoboost probes, you will have more minerals for more units

[@altonito777]

Did you even watch the video ?!?!?!?! Harstem stated many times that constant chrono on probes is really important

[@Fimbu1vetr]

Thanks for posting a new build order guide Harstem! Your other content is great but your guides are amazing for learning how to play well

[@drackse1748]

Buildorder vs. Terran or at lower levels: good eco + some aggresion (Core before Nexus opener) 1. 14 Pylon 2. 15 Gateway + Chronoboost (ONCE!!) on Nexus 3. 17 Gas 4. 16/16 Workers on minerals all time 5. Cybernetics core as soon as Gate finishes (around 20 supply, 1:24), then get 2nd Nexus with the same worker 6. 21 Pylon 7. 22 2nd Pylon on Natural 8. Confirm 2nd Commandcenter around 1:45 9. Adapt + Warpgate als soon as Cyberneticscore finishes 10. Build 2 Adapts (if comfortable scout with the first Adapt) 11. Twillightcouncil + Gateway (when Cybernetics Core is at 50/100) as soon as possible -> start blink and chronoboost it 12. Build Robo + Gateway (Build it when Cybenetics Core is at 77/100) 13. Use Chronos on Twillight and Robo 14. Build 3rd Pylon before Robo finishes 15. 4rd Pylon in 3rd Base 16. Don't cut workes, but don't Chronoboost workers! 17. get 16/16 Workers on Minerals on both bases asap, chill on 38 workers for a time 18. Warp in Stalkers 19. start prism as soon as robo finishes

[@WannabeDough]

Harstem I love your work, best SC2 content creator! Please keep these build videos going, I love them so much! I would love an updated PvZ one other than the immortal all in! Thanks and much love from Australia! PS nice work at homestory cup, I bet all my channel points on you to win and was so happy to see you make it to the final day!

[@jeffchang9131]

Thank you Captain! This actually worked the first time I used against a Zerg. Even when the Zerg when full on Mutas, the blink handled it with ease! Appreciate this video and keep up the good work!

[@kevinchang5082]

I mean going blink stalkers is pretty much a soft counter against muta.

[@catbertsis]

Harstem says that nobody's watching his guides. Here I am, watching the guide and writing down timings, so that I can use it unsuccessfully against all the races and lose against the first harassing unit.

[@Eliteownage]

thanks, I love these build order guides

[@thayerbirch4847]

Always happy to see educational content

[@Gammawatt]

I mastered partings 4 gate blink because of you Harstem. I have noticed this build hits just as hard and 25 seconds earlier. Going to add this to my build order lexicon. Thanks captain❤

[@Trog16]

Love this kind of content, please more build orders!

[@hiramrichmond3341]

AWESOMENESS. Can we get an in depth guide like this for phoenix colossus?

[@Confluence358]

I absolutely love this video. Multiples times I'm thinking (as a plat 1) "hmm, maybe ill change it and chrono some workers" only to have you say "DO NOT CHRONO YOUR WORKERS." Then when the prism finished, I was thinking "maybe I'd get an obs in case of cloaked units," and again you say, "DO NOT BUILD AN OBSERVER." These are the constant reminders us low-level players need xD

[@janpol-w88662]

Love me some Harstem guides, coming back to the game and watching these is one of my favourite parts of playing StarCraft

[@timothyboush4767]

I’ve watched a lot of build orders but these benchmarks were really really helpful! 10/10

[@bart5276]

Thank you for this video! Love these in depth guides. Production level as always off the charts

[@NuclearCincy]

I love these videos . Thank you for keeping StarCraft 2 alive . We love you

[@martykowal]

Love this stuff !! thank you Auirstem!

[@skipperg4436]

Interesting guide, thank you! I should add it to my arsenal ) Currently I play either Phoenix-Colossus or 2 base Colossus opening - very old build but it still works (I wonder if there is a modern version of it?)

[@luxon4]

how does this compare to the zest blink opener you showed years ago, i still do that cause it gets the fastest possible bliunk (~4:32) to shut down any mine drops. also can you do a sg opener, thats the hardest to hold initial marine tank/mine pushes with.

[@lewaffles14]

the 2 gate blink opener is a defensive build with a fast third that usually doesnt result in you applying a lot of early pressure, but you get a strong eco and crush in the midgame. This one is an aggressive opener that really wants to deal some damage to slow down the terran in order to get ahead. 3gate blink and 4 gate blink are hard to do well and depends on micro and decision making, while the 2 gate blink depends on solid macro and map vision skills. Both viable, 2 gate blink is an easier play style imo

[@adnanmustafaqureshi5717]

10/10 Video as always. Keep it up Captain!

[@LitheInLitotes]

StarCraft lore. Gas is really just probe farts. They go into that little room to fart.

[@mixitra8320]

I'm looking forward towards is it imba or do i suck episode where someone executes this build while chrono boosting probes.

[@transformyourself6022]

Thanks for the builds and for sharing the replays :D I will put good use to them. This will help me out a lot. I just have my own build I made up that I have been using which is definitely crap compared to this.

[@maximuscalistopontifice1042]

Harstem, I love your content! I love you make it! Thanks so much! Keep up the good work!

[@nfcheeze]

I honestly do believe that Protoss has to run the full gamut of crazy as a collective race to put the fear of God into the other races to give all of us a shot. We have to work together! lol

[@movntn]

Was just looking for a PvT build order this morning! thanks for the educational content 🙌

[@jacobgirling7739]

Nothing gets me more excited to play sc2 than a new build order to learn

[@nfcheeze]

I know I'm not the only one getting clapped in this matchup. Much needed Captain!! ❤

[@zerkmerk8257]

thanks for the nice build, time to go improvise!

[@JurijLasic]

gonna blast them 4k terrans - especially that Harstem's 2gate blink is my fav go to default build anyway, so the 3gate is a simple adjustment of my well practiced build, so that shuold be freaking perfect, can't wait to try it

[@lad4694]

We cried out, and our Captain delivered

[@TripWithTheMoon]

I will remember that build for the day I build a Nexus on my side of the map vs Terran.

[@jasonfreeman2750]

love these thanks captain

[@damedley75]

12:00 so strict, Daddy!

[@JFox4587]

this might be a little tryhard and not worth doing, but I had an idea that could possibly slightly improve this build with very little effort. when you blink into the terran's main, you usually end up eating a full tank shot with your ball of stalkers before you start attacking. What if as you're flying your prism over, you bring a probe in the prism, and then drop that probe into the terran's main a split second before blinking into his base? Then the probe eats the first tank shot instead of your blink stalkers. if you dont immediately eat the tank shot, your probe can go towards the ramp while your stalker force moves towards the mineral line, allowing you to see where his tank is positioned and what is coming up the ramp without having to endanger your prism or a stalker. again, it's a small tweek. I can't see any downsides, except maybe that the prism would be slightly more vulnerable? someone should try it out and let me know if it's any good since I play zerg =P

[@Gammawatt]

You can always lead the blink jump with a single stalker first to tank the first tank shot then snipe the tank with the rest of your ball of stalkers. The first stalker that gets hit goes straight into prism. Damage hardly gets taken this way

[@JFox4587]

@@Gammawatt true true, that would mitigate the splash at least

[@sc2youtube744]

Thanks for the toss play!

[@samuelsacharose565]

What did the Captain say about chrono boosting workers?

[@kaloyanangelov8042]

MORE OF THESE, PLS! Just not the tournament builds xD

[@HydeTrain320]

will never not love a build guide

[@craylife101]

Is there a better way to practice openings other than going into a game? Like an arcade I can reset on? I am newish to the game, and want to be able to get comfortable with this w/o having to worry about rank.

[@googie_140]

Hop in a custom game without an opponent and try to execute your build without any opponents. Benchmark the time you get and improve on that

[@Zadrigo]

What do we do with the workers? When do we build them, when do we chronoboost them, do we pull them to make the push stronger...? Not really sure about these.

[@Wilde_Wolfe]

Niiice video!!! Show the skytoss (fast Tempest or Carriers) next time! :)

[@mrsausage001]

I will start laddering again thanks to this video. I have been miserable v terran since the patch.

[@JacksonSeiter]

Any tips on how to remember all of this stuff?

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

Building stalkers while calling it a mistake! vintage harstem.

[@heavenstarcraft]

with the timing on your worker scout by not leaving when you place GW you lose the ability to scout if its gas first

[@invoangelus]

Great.. Now I have to get back on the ladder to try this.

[@何凌虚]

Yeah!!!! New BO guide! Love you my captain.

[@Ingkarat1987]

@harstem, any new order for protoss 2024 ? before year end, after new patch

[@johnrechtoris9796]

Dear Harstem, thank you!

[@pawepluta3374]

Thank you,, you are our HERO!

[@totomekia]

great video!

[@ThePuppyman12]

What do you do if they Ebay block or dont go CC?

[@DaxonTV]

Harstem, I followed your recipe for Poffertjes exactly except I skipped the sugar and instead of flour I used tree bark and they turned out terrible! Must be your build.

[@waroftheringrookie5364]

What time should the nexus come up if you’re eBay blocked?

[@JamesRamboPearce]

Question - I've had a lot of Banshee flybys early game and this build has no detection at all, what's the solution here? Bung a photon canon near the probes?

[@HenriqueRJchiki]

Terran can't get an early cloaked banshee against this BO without literally just dying to the stalkers blinking in their main.

[@altonito777]

How do you react to one base all in ? cant defend early marine attacks with 2 adepts and i dont know what to do in those scenarios cause im a n0oOO0b but want to learn a proper build order not cheese every game

[@davidas5049]

Im following your build but i put an observer in, is that ok ?

[@tonyvsa96able]

is this somewhere in spawning tool

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

I’m glad that Protoss have a Lambo too

[@LemmingGuide]

Could you please do a guide for bronze heroes? Seriously this just doesn't work against any kind of all in and that happens down the ladder. I simply don't know how to defend this. I already scout with my pylon probe to see if there are any proxies, but I still loose against every other Terran and I don't know what to do about it.

[@zdenekreischig1916]

There was probe cut right before 2nd Nexus

[@周永斌-n1f]

What if my opponent build an early 3rd CC to block the path into his main base? I found if my stalkers blink in, they will be in a bad position to fire.

[@spoken_truth2501]

If they went for 3cc probably got no troops to defend

[@heybroy0747]

watching this to get ready for someone playing this against my zerg LOL (in gold race specific builds aren't a thing yet)

[@lowkeygaming1860]

This is 4 gate blink but instead of 4th gateway you get a 3rd nexus right?

[@johnathandoe7079]

Hey I chrono boosted my workers and the build doesn't work please help

[@MastaRosiel]

Omg thank you! Pvp and pvz next? I love the standard meta guide idea. GLHF

[@patrickwinkelmann4002]

What is best response against 3 barracks mass marauder if you dont have a starport??? Marauder kills every Gateway unit so fast even if i scout it early and build a battery i struggle against it

[@lowkeygaming1860]

immortals, archons, chargelots, disruptors if you're talking about like a 1 base all in or proxy then you will need batteries and a probe pull

[@mothrahlurker788]

Terran can't afford 3 barracks marauder, they just don't have the gas for it if they want to get stim and combatshields. Marauders don't do well vs some zealots, some probes pulled and especially not an immortal. But you can also just straight up beat them by kiting them across the map with blinkstalker. You can afford to take some damage because a pure marauder (especially if they don't have combatshields) no reactor setup leaves the terran in an awful position. Their medivacs and +1 upgrade would be super delayed and without marines their army sucks vs chargelots and immortals. So I'm gonna take the educated guess that you're facing this at a pretty low level (metal league) and your build order execution isn't great. You should never die with an immortal, stalker and a superbattery. Just remember that you don't need any additional gateways, you can spend your money just fine with 3, that your workerproduction should be the same and you also want to constantly warp in. I would also suggest that you actually go into the replay and compare at 3 mins, 3:30, 4 mins, 4:30, 5:00 how many units you had and how many Harstem had. Because chances are that if you had as many as Harstem you'd just straight up win the game without much effort.

[@patrickwinkelmann4002]

Thx, a immortal is god in this with a battery and some probe puls. I had to learn i just Need to survive this all in, if the terran failed he mostly instantly leaves.

[@Aristocrat15]

thanks Harstem for a guide on not BUILDING WORKERS or CHRONOBOOSTING MY NEXUS it's most of my games anyway

[@Tangerine-m3m]

thank you

[@thesultan1212]

I really like this BO content for newbies 😊

[@tatatatartine2588]

I assume it would take about 2 weeks for terrans to figure how to counter this. So I have 2 weeks to prepare the perfect build that counter the counter build. I already feel my MMR increasing :D

[@lillian8307]

3/4 gate blink and variations of it have been around forever, both the offence and defence are very figured out. Just learn this build, learn to play it well, and you will be much better off.

[@tatatatartine2588]

@@lillian8307 ...or I keep canon-rushing every single game, and embrace both my mediocrity at SC2 and the delicious rage of my opponents :D

[@kr7epj4x]

Thats it, im gonna chronobost my probes

[@Adamin_The_III]

With all due respect, why would you play core before nexus? what are the benefits?

[@AD-lr6pc]

Can you make more build order guides?

[@disieh]

Why adept-adept instead of adept-stalker? Just because adept is cheaper?

[@jmxthievez]

So I chronoboost my workers?

[@Iddy267]

so chrono once?

[@addaine4019]

I have a question: if I remember correctly, the 2 first workers in gas are more efficient than the third one. In that case, could it be usefull to build a third extractor to use with 2 probes so that all your extractors are working with 2 probes [during the time when you have 38 workers] ? or would the 75 mineral required for the extractor mess too much with the build? (I'm asking because you said that building an observer would leave you with not enough gas for your stalkers)

[@mothrahlurker788]

Many builds do exactly that, for example all PvP 2gate expand non-stargate builds (talking about an early 2nd gas). Here the 75 minerals would delay the nexus for a bit and likely mess up some timings. You're asking for quite a lot more gas here with 75 tho, so it's not like 2-1 in gas over 3-0 would be sufficient anyway. You suggested a fast third gas, which sounds very difficult to execute and you'd have to transfer probes between main and natural. So you lose resources overall (lost miningtime) and with that late of an efficiency gain you wouldn't get 75 extra gas either. Another disadvantage is that the 75 minerals are before your gates and robo are built instead of normally after.

[@addaine4019]

It wouldn't be 2-1instead of 3-0 but 2-2-2 instead of 3-3-0. As for the loss of mining time, I am not sure it is that significant (it would be like what 3-5 second max for 2 probes which would be mining gaz as third probe in the extractor) Plus you technically could start the extractor earlier in the build (which would delay your warps I guess but since I am clueless about timings, I don't know if this build has leeway in that regards or not, so I don't know how bad it is), which would allow for really more gaz (if my memory about worker's efficiency serves me right) so there may be a use there for something [I don't know, like a +1 ATK? Since I don't think there would be time for an immortal] Basically, if I didn't misunderstand something I'm asking if exchanging the time necessary to mine 75 minerals [at the point you take the extractor] for some gaz can be worthwhile

[@joro9337]

awesome!

[@jean-gabrielbedard9975]

Look at Harstem making a video just for Protoss players... That's fine, they need it;)

[@leagueoflegendstrolls9996]

wow bro I just started SC2, and I am bronze 5 can't even win a single game. I watch this tuto and I trained it vs IA. Then I go multiplayer mode and I just won an easy game vs Silver 1 by just doing the exact build order till 3rd nexus. I end up with double score (I can't hotkey or micro anything, I just tard build and gather ressources and it wins games)

[@StereoHound]

Tried this vs Elite AI and got smashed because my micro sucks 😂😂 Really appreciate the benchmark advice on building finish time.

[@patrickcampbell957]

Always practice against the easy AI. Let's you just relax abt the BO. And if you wanna think more about the strategy/interactive element of the build. You play PvP so you can have fun getting into the head of someone 😂. Thinking more abt it...

[@mariorodriguezdelgado5504]

Hello Captain, I'm a big fan. Please, can you do a similar video for PvZ and PvP?

[@leoramalgum2952]

Never trust those Zergs with their infested reapers!

[@yoshitsuneminamoto9470]

What to do if they do cloacked widdow mines Edit: this build is sick i won 8 games out of 8

[@loraxak]

It has a robo in the build so just build an observer. You can modify to react to what your opponent is doing.

[@enymus3081]

WIthout a scout you are f*cked 😂

[@yoshitsuneminamoto9470]

what to do if they engineer bay block

[@loraxak]

Usually I crono a zealot and build extra pylon. Will pull like 4 probes to deny.

[@yoshitsuneminamoto9470]

@@loraxak yeah but it messes with the build order though

[@eparcyll]

And Terran come at your base with 5 marins and a cyclon at 3:36...

[@alanxu1424]

Easy Ai: GG Harstem: Get out loser Best thing in that replay

[@brendenfraser81]

Noooo! Stop helping the protosses 😂 My mmr hurts so bad