its very helpful, that you put the timings of the build order on the screen :)
@johnshields83414 жыл бұрын
with the whole 'eat the first tank shot before blinking" I noticed parting would blink a single stalker into range to take that shot, then blink the rest of the boys.
@gamingbtc4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Explaining to Protoss only players how to deal with various other attacks against you is so helpful.
@patrickfitzpatrick29454 жыл бұрын
"Dont shoot the rocks" .. Thats a golden hint =)
@avveb96444 жыл бұрын
Started watching you and now i cannot stop, i dont even play the game anymore but it makes me wanna comeback
@TheDusty0ne4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally sharing this amazing build with us low folks!
@TheNZSamaritan4 жыл бұрын
legend!!! loving the build order and the amount of commentary shooting the rock has generated ;-) rock on.
@Jcarroz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome build and walking through each step. Very value insights👍
@mackfly84202 жыл бұрын
I cant decide which i love more; your build order or your lucious locks
@DobroSC24 жыл бұрын
OK got it! glaveadepts PvZ, Blink push PvT, ProxyRobo PvP. Thank you Harsterm for your videos. PS: love your long wavy hair
@TheDusty0ne4 жыл бұрын
Now you just mix in a cannon rush from time to time and your parting playstyle is complete ;-).
@Highdra_x4 жыл бұрын
5k yet? :D
@comandantethorn99294 жыл бұрын
@@Highdra_x oof, tilted? xd
@Jasonmoofang4 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking about feeling out this style after watching Parting, then this. Love this video. ...but lets be honest we all love your hair even more.
@adammorris25164 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all your videos I just got masters 3 for the first time, can finally check that one off the bucket list!! Thanks man!
@squibbae4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why on a Core before Nexus build you get the pylon before resuming probe production? I've tried it a couple times and a 21 pylon seems to finish on time for the adept.
@bmjoaco23394 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video
@philipwarisch36174 жыл бұрын
Thank you Harstem, I was just today looking for a good TvP build. Time to get some revenge for all the terran allin's 😆. I really like the way in which you are explaining buildorders and other stuff. Keep going
@JohnDobak4 жыл бұрын
14:24 oh no the madness and delusions have taken hold.
@barrazero95714 жыл бұрын
TY TY, i was waiting so much to this, trying to do by myself but i was struggling at this
@timlewis57074 жыл бұрын
"TY TY" - don't say that name...
@comandantethorn99294 жыл бұрын
@@timlewis5707 f for Parting, couldnt break the Chessmaster xd
@owenchadwick27194 жыл бұрын
Thank you I find vids like these real helpful.
@hermes43254 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr harstem I needed this build in my life
@НикитаДенисов-ы1щ4 жыл бұрын
we love you harstem!
@bookworm84154 жыл бұрын
Wow. You just upped your build guide game to a whole new level. Like... serisouly upped it. Been watching your vids oldest to newest, almost done... and your first guides were already above good... above excellent. OMG your hair! Its so long and wavy! 😍😍😍*simp noises* This guide, it might make Protoss nerfed when we kill everyone on the ladder without them being able to do anything. Off to mess it up for a week...
@gewinnste4 жыл бұрын
Why is the twightlight built so it finished at 3m05s if blink is researched at 3m28s? Is there any scouting information that could change the plan to charge at 3m05s or something?
@zelias5004 жыл бұрын
When (gateway?) scouting in the early game, what are some signs that we should NOT do this build? Good example: GSL Ro8 Dear v Innovation G1 (i think)
@simmenfl4 жыл бұрын
@LowLinK Parting did it 5 games in a row and beat Maru so I think expecting it means auto-loss is not really true
@milesscheetz98414 жыл бұрын
Thank you for blessing us with your luscious locks, Kevin
@MrBulya4 жыл бұрын
1. When should the probe being sent to scout? I send the pylon probe to scout, but does it cut too much minerals from doing this build? 2. What can the observer scout that I should stay defensive rather then aggressive? My guess would be a super delayed factory as it may mean a 3 rax push and by the time I'm there they have stim and shields, may be +1. I could be wrong about that, but may be other info the observer can pick. 3. I'm used to using the stalkers to delay the initial Terran push so that I have enough at home to deal with it, and having some spotter observers to see it all. In this build there is a single observer made straight into a prism, I feel a little bit blind this way. Will the pressure make them commit everything into defending, be it cloacked banshees, libs, and the other stuff the observer might spot and won't in this case?
@whirlwind8724 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me why you do pylon before assimilator in this build but normally you do assimilator before pylon?
@magicall95964 жыл бұрын
So, I have a couple of questions. 1) If I have a healthy stalker count, can I add some zealots to tank some tanks shot? 2) Also If terran plays cloaked banshees, I really need the second observer. I believe Parting did the second one, but I have no clue how to find gas for it
@FickleWid4 жыл бұрын
zealots are gonna cut into your expansion timing and if you're cutting stalkers for them it's not worth it either because you invested in blink.
@zar3044 жыл бұрын
"let's pretend I'm trolling. no I'm not bad at micro"
@adammorris25164 жыл бұрын
Great content!
@JoshuaBoulard4 жыл бұрын
Can we still hit that timing? Or has something changed? Because I have been practicing this build for a week or so and I can't seem to get the same amount of units and an expansion that early. Im usually around the 550 mark..... I am Gold in NA though. That could have something to do with it lol
@Matthew95i4 жыл бұрын
love you harstem
@tomato_cultivator_tx24384 жыл бұрын
this build is soo good, thank you
@You-ul8qw3 жыл бұрын
They're taking the hobbits ToIsengard-gard-gard... like that nickname
@AD-lr6pc3 жыл бұрын
When r we gonna get a new build order guide?
@madsthiesen97734 жыл бұрын
Whats the terran counter to this, and isn´t it quite hard to scout? Is terran just supposed to have 2 early tanks, positioned excactly far enough away so you cant blink up the ledge and kill the tank immediately, or blink on top of it on natural?
@aryanaladani95014 жыл бұрын
Great video, I learned a lot!
@kovasm.60884 жыл бұрын
Question: are cloaked banshees possible at the timing of the attack, and if so, what do you do? What's the game plan? (Let's say observer died against the scan) Obviously you'd want to keep it alive and kill the banshee and win, but what if... Thanks for your time, much appreciated, guides are really helping climb the ladder :)
@malmro22164 жыл бұрын
Think the earliest banshee timing is like ~510 with cloak so yeah. Prob just one tho. Parting got a battery at exposed bases and made some observers to stay at home. This happened in one of his games with maru and he took a good bit of damage but he really didnt need to
@Ryndika4 жыл бұрын
how u deal with 4 hellions 8 marines at 4m when u have 3 stalkers and no battery?
@strade6014 жыл бұрын
Hey, is this safe to transition to disruptors instead of colossi ?
@kamnale13174 жыл бұрын
Hey Harstem, not a tactic, but could you set-up a high level/pro match, where both players have full map vision? I'm not sure if it's technically possible, but would be interesting to see everything countered both ways before even played.
@clee894 жыл бұрын
Sounds like zvz if both players go standard and the game gets to mid-game haha
@NTC3 жыл бұрын
can this build be good vs Zerg?
@pezz80294 жыл бұрын
Your footnotes said blink before gateways, but you did it properly with gateways before blink.
@robin2thek4 жыл бұрын
Epic video! Thank you!
@eentosrs4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, may I ask what keyboard you have?
@Adamin_The_III2 жыл бұрын
How on earth did you get better results in actual game than in practice
@TheHabee0074 жыл бұрын
Great build walk through thanks. Is it on spawning tool yet? 😔
@MrPikminmaster4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love your content. I would appreciate it if you'd also listed some times newer players should go for on advanced builds like this. Ex: if we're silver or gold, what time should we be realistically going for?
@gewinnste4 жыл бұрын
I had some success with this but here's the thing: Some Terrans do a huge worker pull and with just an additional ~8 marines they kill all stalkers in no time. Obviously you can't do individual-blink-micro because scvs are almost as fast as stalkers and get to attack or even a surround quickly. So with a full blink followed by stutterstep I kill lots of workers but I'm still behind since stalkers are so expensive. I had games where I lost 10 stalkers for 20 SCVs and 10 marines, Terran drops 4 mules and kills me 2 minutes later since I have almost no units and they don't care if 20 workers died. So what's the plan if they pull the boys? Just bail?
@VRGamercz4 жыл бұрын
Harstem love your videos and more importantly your hair. Just a question. Is there any benefit of playing on low details if your computer can maintain stable FPS (144FPS in my case as my monitor is 144Hz) on ultra even when 200 vs 200 army is clashing?
@finneganmcbride6224 Жыл бұрын
What computer do you have?
@leonardrentsch99894 жыл бұрын
Why didn't it work against TY?
@jasonoliver27524 жыл бұрын
I love your long and wavy hair
@st1nos4 жыл бұрын
such a strong build! as a terran player, i'd love to know what you think the strongest response is upon scouting this build (the early robo + twilight gives it away, i guess?).
@timlewis57074 жыл бұрын
I've been playing this build since Parting came back to sc2 as he's been playing this style for much longer than it's been popular, so here's my input if it helps: Scouting: The amount of gateways before 3rd base is the real giveaway for this build. Normally a protoss will get 3 gateways if they're playing safe, 2 is pretty standard for macro game, but 4 means they want to put on some pressure! the twilight is standard timing, and the robo isn't much quicker than a standard opener (although getting it before extra gates is non standard). In terms of response: tanks are very important, and bunkers on the high ground. While this build *can* transition, when it does so you can see it's behind in many ways (tech is delayed, 3rd base is delayed, upgrades are delayed). Nesting tanks far back in your main base is really important as well, as tank count snowballs verses this build, the more tanks you get the less room there is for stalkers to move around without taking shots, and tank shots snowball on blink stalkers. So get tanks and nest them far back in your main, get AT LEAST 1 bunker on the high ground. You need a method of picking off observers, best way for this is either to save scans for it if you're good at seeing them, or just get a raven (has utility in a transition as it's going to be great against the colossus followup). You want to delay as long as possible against this build to allow your tank count to keep climbing, as once you have 3-4 with a good bio count it's very hard for the protoss to get anything done, and they'll likely have to transition. In terms of transitioning out of this: The protoss will almost always have to go into blink collossus off the back of this, as anything else should kind of die to a tank push, zealot count would be too low, storm too delayed, and +1 armour isn't coming anytime soon: So colossus will be the safe followup. Personally the thing I hate to play against when I'm playing this style is mass tanks TY style: If you watch TY vs Parting (I think game 4 or 5?) TY goes up to 10-11 tanks with bio and it's a style which is really hard to play against with stalker colossus, as the protoss has no real way of trading without taking massive tank hits, and TY just slowly expands everywhere and eventually suffocates Parting. Now Parting also made mistakes in this one, by not transitioning earlier into tempest, but if you play TYs double factory tank style then you can easily add on vikings, or even a couple of Thors if they're being too greedy with the air transition. As a Terran, once you hold this don't be too rushed to end the game or expand tonnes, the protoss set themselves back a lot from this so you can take a nice slow game with good tank production, expanding when you can, and getting good upgrades, and then you should be able to enter the midgame equal to the protoss, but with a vastly superior unit composition. Hope that helps :)
@sakarasomapa4 жыл бұрын
Tim Lewis what do u think about hiding some gates if you plan a push? I usually do that every time weather I’m all inning or just pressure but I don’t actually know if it’s good or not.
@timlewis57074 жыл бұрын
@@sakarasomapa Yeah you can hide the 3rd and 4th gateway if you want to. Verses good players I'm not sure it's going to matter too much, as your unit count before you push out is pretty telling (which they can check with a reaper) and the lack of a sentry is definitely a give away. You don't want to hide all your gates as you still want that hellion wall. There's a nasty build where the Terran can drop a medivac of marines in your main, while running 3 hellions into your natural which if you don't have a wall off is going to be pretty hard to not take damage from, you can scout for this by scouting a gas first (2150 gas left when 1st rax finishes), and confirm by a delayed expand and a reactor on the factory (scouted with adept shade), but still you want to be able to throw down a hellion wall if needed with some of those gates. Personally I don't bother hiding my gates, as verses good players they can get a read on this build (or some sort of pressure) just by the delayed 3rd nexus timing, the unit count before the pushout, and the early warp prism - but if you want to throw in some extra shenanigans to throw your opponent off then by all means do, we're protoss afterall so that's what we do!
@sakarasomapa4 жыл бұрын
Tim Lewis i do make 3 gates at home with hellion wall. If I push with 4 gates I will hide only 1 gates. If I go super all in I might hide more. I’m not playing a lot of Terran but I think they really want to know which units are coming and how many which is why I hide my gates. They wouldn’t want to make tanks against chargelot all in with some sentry and a warp prism for example. But again, if they do some harass before the push they’d usually be able to tell anyway.
@timlewis57074 жыл бұрын
@@sakarasomapa Yeah that's fair, it sounds like you're playing the hidey-gatey game pretty smart. I would guess most of your builds still have you going into adept, stalker to at least deny reaper scouting? Most standard builds will have the protoss starting adept, stalker, stalker with a sentry as the 4th unit, or some fast robo builds will skip 3rd stalker and go straight sentry - but more or less it's pretty similar. So as the Terran I think they tend to be looking for initial reads on the tech (is there a twilight, is it researching something? If not could it be dt? Maybe theres a stargate somewhere on the map?), 3rd nexus timing (~4mins is pretty standard), gateway count, and gas timings.
@Adamin_The_III2 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been an actual all in, a bit stronger if you'd add like 2-3 gateways, maybe 1 gas and resigne of 3rd base, no?
@tsundude43204 жыл бұрын
Gotta work on those rocks early to get a good surround
@drtony10004 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@ximbabwe02283 жыл бұрын
This build has gotten me from never playing before to gold 1. But now the Terrans are just lifting off and base trading me to death. Also, we are so bad that my opponent will mine drop me way after 4:00 so I'm caught off guard. Any suggestions?
@skyphoenix81573 жыл бұрын
You can always utilize the recall ability. Cancel your third, build 2-3 shield batteries to your natural or main if you somehow have to give up your natural as well (make sure to pull probes away) and don't suicide single units into the Terran army. Against late (mine) drops you have 3 stalkers at home. Pull your probes away, clear stuff with your stalkers and send probes back to mining. If it's a marine drop and your stalkers are out of position, warp in more units at home to deal with it and attack with your main army. Keep in mind if he's dropping you, he's going to have less stuff at home to defend your attack with. Hope it helps
@ximbabwe02283 жыл бұрын
@@skyphoenix8157 thank you :D Do you usually move out as soon as possible, or do you wait for the first drop, defend it, then move out?
@skyphoenix81573 жыл бұрын
@@ximbabwe0228 As soon as possible. Sometimes the Terran doesn't drop at all. Those 3 stalkers are left home just in case he does. If you wait for too long you'll push ain't gonna achieve anything.
@skyphoenix81573 жыл бұрын
@@ximbabwe0228 Just to mention I'm not a GM, but only a 3.3k Protoss player, who hasn't played enough so there might be some flaws in my theory even though I don't think so. Also if you'd like to play a few games I've got nothing better to do right now.
@ximbabwe02283 жыл бұрын
@@skyphoenix8157 I'm hard stuck at 2650 so yeah thatd be tight add me: ChairmanLMAO#1624
@christophkuntz85234 жыл бұрын
the BO is sweet, but i love your hair even more!
@antthehckyplayer4 жыл бұрын
YES. Based Captain.
@christianpetersen67714 жыл бұрын
My question to the BO: why would i play Protoss in first place?
@cozymoderncabin38303 жыл бұрын
Shooting rocks is actually better than my reaper D, so don't feel bad.
@ryanchoi93344 жыл бұрын
This is great, Terran seems to always be the aggressor in PVT's so this will be cool change of pace.
@comandantethorn99294 жыл бұрын
i mean it really depends honestly, in lower leagues terrans turtle up for at least 15 mins until theyre maxed out or the enemy army walks up a ramp into siege tanks, in the middle leagues its basically who gets a doom drop first or who gets tilted first xd and in grandmaster and high level tournaments and stuff anything can happen xdfasdfasdf
@samojolbo79073 жыл бұрын
looks super strong but u forgot thet marus units cant eb 1 shot. tey have a skill called gods gift thet leaves them whit 1 hp.
@Dawnerz254 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone pronounce Stalker the way you do. What dialect is this?
@loanstowalruses4 жыл бұрын
Why go into Colossi and not Disruptors? A lot of the time the Terrans are going to be heavy marauder, wouldn't disruptors make more sense or are you trying to deliberately force Terran to build vikings?
@BumbleBee-sx1fn4 жыл бұрын
Most of the time build 3-4 colossi and then disruptors is not a bad choice. Colossi are much more easier to micro and are useful against both marauders and marines anyway!
@IYPITWL4 жыл бұрын
Its long and wavy and important.
@laur.traveler46204 жыл бұрын
this was so fun to watch, lol, gg wp
@FickleWid4 жыл бұрын
Infatuated with your alpaca tuft of hair
@TimeFallRPG4 жыл бұрын
I know I'm 2 months late, but sniping not just tanks and the bunker but also sniping stim is more important imo.
@UnstableVolt4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video (from the low reaches of gold league).
@gewinnste4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could get to minute 4 in PvT :( (Diamond 2).
@terrinsnelgrove40054 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the proper response when playing against 3 racks? I feel like if they have stim and combat shields this push will melt. Should I just transition into a 3rd base and get splash damage at that point or still attack.
@BM-pp8gw4 жыл бұрын
nice guide
@benmark23534 жыл бұрын
I love your long and wavey hair Harstem ;)
@Jonas_Yüksel4 жыл бұрын
I try to rank up with a new account with this build but can t get out of bronze 3 (3.8k mmr now)
@BumbleBee-sx1fn4 жыл бұрын
Lol you didn't know?! Since Serral's mmr 7400+ Blizzard has decided to make ladder more complicated so that bronze 3 is currently equal to diamond 2! 😂
@haraldschupp58274 жыл бұрын
Thx :D PLZ Mode build Guides :D Yea Love Ur wavy Hair
@K3rriganZerg4 жыл бұрын
U should do a 2 base Terran build so I can show it to my friend :D I think if u did that u would be the first person to post a video on it xd
@JeroenTrappers4 жыл бұрын
Nice hair!
@dsmjas4 жыл бұрын
i don't dream i sleep with my eyes open.
@racingsfun4 жыл бұрын
Amazing hair.
@JoshIbbotson4 жыл бұрын
Veryyyyyyy nice
@quentinultramegadroiteradi73454 жыл бұрын
Being an AI or an SCV in Starcraft must be horrible
@b1rds_arent_real4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the first infestor ever to cast microbial shroud tho
@alexisbrin5184 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure deepmind would agree with that statement ;)
@atticusbeachy37074 жыл бұрын
@@alexisbrin518 Starting life playing hundreds of years of PvP sounds pretty horrible.
@joaopadua71344 жыл бұрын
Love your long wavy hair
@IgnatRemizov4 жыл бұрын
ELEVEN Stalkers to one shot a tank?? No wonder I lose so much to a-moving my army into a terran turtle. At this point I thought the only way to beat tanks is to go airtoss, since tanks can't shoot up. I'll have to train my micro more. Thanks for this great build order!
@artanis93884 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, can you do a video about how to def early stim pushes from terran? I actually do like ur new hairstyle
@magefront14854 жыл бұрын
Here is what's gonna happen to me, blink on top of 4 mines and then get melted.
@rmirkovich4 жыл бұрын
The "Long and wavy hair" is absolutely luscious. I'm sure everyone watching this wants to have your baby.
@ShuXamR4 жыл бұрын
thankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk u
@doodbruh39214 жыл бұрын
nice hair m8
@comandantethorn99294 жыл бұрын
why is everyone mentioning specifically your "long and wavy hair" xdd its sounds so calculated
@Aristocrat154 жыл бұрын
I love the long and wavy hair how do I get it
@leagueresurrection4 жыл бұрын
I love Harstem and his long and wavy hair.
@htamerursavas3 жыл бұрын
You have a lovely long curly hair :)
@MrOverbooze4 жыл бұрын
I love your long and wavy hair very much, Mr. Harstem ;)
@smp37454 жыл бұрын
i cant watch this replay because i just die at 2:33 lololol
@smp37454 жыл бұрын
STAWKER STAWKER :D
@ピィ右衛門4 жыл бұрын
Noice
@michaelrenzema13534 жыл бұрын
lo9ve the hair
@HearterSG4 жыл бұрын
I wish I was a protoss player so I could use these... Make some zerg build videos? :)
@ehk59484 жыл бұрын
I do love you long and wavy hair. Are you perhaps related to Fabio?