Best $300 CPU? Intel Core i5-13600K vs AMD Ryzen 5 7600X

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Jarrod'sTech

Jarrod'sTech

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@everyone01
@everyone01 2 жыл бұрын
Basically For content creators: 13600k is better For gaming: toss a coin, whichever lands buy
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 9 ай бұрын
So overall, the i5 is the better choice.
@rex-assassinassassin3446
@rex-assassinassassin3446 8 ай бұрын
@@mikem9536for content creators I5 13600k/kf its a best .If you go for full gaming you should go AMD both is good but I5 has more cores and power draw most but you can achieve more performance
@diamondx224
@diamondx224 8 ай бұрын
Basically​@@mikem9536
@auritro3903
@auritro3903 8 ай бұрын
@@mikem9536 yes basically
@chadfang2267
@chadfang2267 8 ай бұрын
Price is a big factor.
@PrinceSaangwan
@PrinceSaangwan 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I don't intend on buying 99% of the products shown in this channel, I still watch every video just to support the channel because such channels SHOULD NOT DIE.
@EdzonPusing
@EdzonPusing 2 жыл бұрын
Intel's 13th gen already?
@user9267
@user9267 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently..
@electro1146
@electro1146 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like 12th gen was launched just yesterday.
@OmPrakashSahu.legend
@OmPrakashSahu.legend 2 жыл бұрын
that’s what i thought😂
@mariodevita661
@mariodevita661 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 14 Meteor lake Q2 ' Q4 2023.🤔
@johanbire3296
@johanbire3296 2 жыл бұрын
intel launch new processor every year lol intel afraid lose to amd
@raviundhad1929
@raviundhad1929 2 жыл бұрын
You're really a gem when it comes to making their viewers understand things better ! Thanks jarrod
@RNG-999
@RNG-999 2 жыл бұрын
That's why homie has got like 600k subs in just a couple years. lol. Remember when he had less than 40k.
@beanshady
@beanshady 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's my favorite. He gives the info out clearly and you can tell that he puts in the work. I really appreciate his videos.
@runninginthe90s75
@runninginthe90s75 2 жыл бұрын
What a lot of bullshit benchmark from this channel, i've seen more reliable source than Jarrod and the result in gaming the i5 stomp r5 really easy. This review is very suspicious just like HUB review.
@demon5965
@demon5965 Жыл бұрын
​@@runninginthe90s75 the benchmark u have seen is probably intel rigged userbenchmark lol. I prefer Intel over amd and Jarrod is probably the most objective content creator I've watched when it comes to intel/amd
@peterharrop179
@peterharrop179 Жыл бұрын
11:06 Can i just say i will always be grateful for how intuitive and efficient this data presentation is. Thank you Jarrod!
@xdragon01
@xdragon01 2 жыл бұрын
When seeing individual CPU prices , the 7600x is a no brainer . But when you consider platform costs the choice is a little bit more difficult with the i5's overall platform cost !
@a6893_
@a6893_ 2 жыл бұрын
If you are not upgrading it anytime soon.
@michaelangst6078
@michaelangst6078 2 жыл бұрын
How is it a no brainer??? the gains the 7600x has in gaming are miniscule, and almost nothing at 4k.. The gains the 13600K has over using your system outside of gaming are actually significant... The 7600X does have a lower wattage though b y a decent amount, so if you're a penny pincher, the 7600x is a better choice I guess
@glordium1951
@glordium1951 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelangst6078 if you have a 4090 then yes, the 7600x is the better choice for games, obviously you are not going to get a 4090 with a budget cpu.. so if we are considering getting a budget gpu with one of these 2 cpu's then there is no doubt that the 13600k / kf are much better and there will be no difference in gaming benchmarks
@AnyHoo
@AnyHoo Жыл бұрын
But in the long term it might hurt because intel switches platform every 2 gens
@af4396
@af4396 Жыл бұрын
What? It's slightly more for the Intel chip, and it's got massive performance advantages across the board of computing, and trades blows in gaming. For pure gaming, sure, but even then it's not a "no brainer" because some games run better on Intel, and if those are the games you play you may as well get it.
@rarinth
@rarinth 2 жыл бұрын
competition at its finest
@Ishamv3
@Ishamv3 Жыл бұрын
This is a far more balanced and sincere review IMO, whereas most channels are telling you to buy the i5-13600K for performance, ignoring power-efficiency and socket deadend.
@Anonymous-qb4vc
@Anonymous-qb4vc Жыл бұрын
intel is more power efficient since it idles at lower tdp and normal workloads thanks to efficiency cores, also if u cap max tdp u can get similar efficiency as AMD, watch Testing and Tuning the new 13900K for Efficiency
@Luka_Nogalo
@Luka_Nogalo 2 жыл бұрын
I have trust issues with all the bigger Media outlets out there. Hearing they try to manipulate by using different Ram, limiting Wattage or even different GPUs! Thank you Jarrod for the Video, you're one of the few reviewers left that I truly and deeply trust when new tech gets launched!
@xslvrxslwt
@xslvrxslwt 2 жыл бұрын
you're so funny
@Luka_Nogalo
@Luka_Nogalo 2 жыл бұрын
@@xslvrxslwt a ti nisi jeli? Balkanac s profilnom slikom Kineskinje.
@buckduck3624
@buckduck3624 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luka_Nogalo here's my suggestion for other KZbinrs who test stuff like this it's jayztwocents and LLT and if you want laptop reviews Dave2d is one of my favorites and if you want phone reviews then i recommend marquesbrownlee and mrwhoseboss, these are the best KZbinrs that i could find that aren't biased and don't get paid to say what the company wants them to say and give every detail that you need.
@milkyy4168
@milkyy4168 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckduck3624 Mrwhosetheboss gets sponsored for some of the products he reviews.
@buckduck3624
@buckduck3624 2 жыл бұрын
@@milkyy4168 I specifically said they don't get paid to say what the companies want them to say he's honest about it
@e.h.v.k.7404
@e.h.v.k.7404 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what is going on with this guys benchmarks but every other outlet i have seen has shown that 13600k is faster in both games and productivity when compared to 7600x, often faster than 5800x3d even. It also costs less money since motherboards are way cheaper and you can go with ddr4 if you want. So your recommendation to go with 7600x seems little wierd to me. You get less by paying more if you go with AMD.
@andreivasile821
@andreivasile821 2 жыл бұрын
In some reviews 13600k even beats the 7700x and 7900x in some games (LTT,Gamers Nexus to give an example), it would make sense since it squares of with the 12900k and the 13700k .
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 2 жыл бұрын
Not everybody used the same memory, that would be a difference. LTT IIRC used DDR5 6800 with Intel which is a bit faster than DDR5 6000 used for Zen 4 (I forgot the timings, but I left with the impression that they're equally good). Also, in this test, Jarrod showed 99 degrees Celsius for i5 13600K which hints that it might've been thermal throttled. Not everybody has top of the line coolers for this kind of CPUs I guess. Though that doesn't explain the below 2000 Cinebench R23 single core score. All in all, they're quite similar. Though I'm still waiting for an optimized Intel CPU benchmark for gaming. One where they disable the E cores and maybe even undervolt the CPU so it has less power draw, and also increase the cache ring frequency. And, of course, maximum RAM, not just 6000 MT/s.
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 2 жыл бұрын
he have 25 games and others have 3,4-6 games and HW 12 at most!! bigger channels are lazy and wait that game developers pay to them to show their games
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreivasile821 Big channels as Linux,Jay2,GN are lazy ones and waiting for money from game developers and they have as you see 5-6 games in tests ., same games all the time
@jase240ads
@jase240ads 2 жыл бұрын
There seem to be a few inconsistencies with different reviews. It's possible this is caused by the 22H2 update that, once again, is hurting AMD's performance by a decent margin.
@radu1006
@radu1006 2 жыл бұрын
Why not show the results with power limits as well? I never use a CPU without power limits.
@mr.lunatic3157
@mr.lunatic3157 2 жыл бұрын
Why
@kkostadinof
@kkostadinof 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about power limits in a desktop bruh. This is not a laptop comparison
@mr.lunatic3157
@mr.lunatic3157 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkostadinof seriously bro imagine getting a desktop over a laptop and then limiting the performance ... Its like gaming in a laptop without plugging to the wall..
@SuperbJAL
@SuperbJAL Жыл бұрын
tks bro, really appreciated the effort comparing two valuable chips.. i love the argumen " those performance come with high price, more watt!..." seal the deal to the pc picker!
@BCSpikeFM
@BCSpikeFM 2 жыл бұрын
I love Jarrod's reviews for actually trying to make it so that each platform uses the exact same memory kit. Can I request in the future that you do 7700X vs 13700K? That's the market I'm looking in right now as 6 performance cores isn't enough for my desktop use.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
Just have to buy the i7 when I get back from holiday in 2 weeks but it's planned!
@BCSpikeFM
@BCSpikeFM 2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech sweet. Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the future video.
@runninginthe90s75
@runninginthe90s75 2 жыл бұрын
@Jarrod'sTech You might as well clarify that your test is legit or not, your benchmark number is way off from actual number just like HUB review. Other youtube reviewer shows the i5 13600k beating r5 7600x in almost every game even the i5 beating 7700x too. Your benchmark is very suspicious not gonna lie.
@asmrnaturecat984
@asmrnaturecat984 2 жыл бұрын
@@runninginthe90s75 do ur own benchmark mark then
@Patrick73787
@Patrick73787 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he insisted on using the same DDR5-6000 on both Intel and AMD CPUs is an insult to the Intel platform that can support way faster DDR5 memory. He used the AMD sweet spot DDR5-6000 CL30 EXPO kit on an Intel CPU, lol. I won't watch his 13700K vs 7700X comparison if the test setup remains the same.
@Baz87100
@Baz87100 Ай бұрын
Your number crunching is super impressive and incredibly detailed. Kudos!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rHinosYth
@rHinosYth 2 жыл бұрын
How nice to ignore the price of AMD motherboards.
@TheBURBAN111
@TheBURBAN111 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was going to comment...
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
50$ more than am4
@IceColdRona
@IceColdRona 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair he has mentioned that in other videos and it was probably pretty well known at the time this video was uploaded how much more they costed.
@IceColdRona
@IceColdRona 2 жыл бұрын
Scratch my other comment he actually mentions motherboards at 12:12
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
between am4 and am5 its 20-100$ difference, between ddr4 and ddr5 its 30-100$ difference, 13600 has 6 cores nearly as strong as 7600x 6 cores and has small cores and it gives it more power and 13600 costs like 7700x and 7700x is stronger ,13700 has a little more multicore than 7700x like 13600 7600x and costs like 7900x and 7900x is is stronger, and also 7600x vs 12600 7600x 6 cores are stronger than all the p and e cores in the 12600
@MrDerguncik
@MrDerguncik 2 жыл бұрын
13600k better choice now, we can buy "old" motherboard on z690 + ddr4 cheaper than am5 and ddr5
@goa141no6
@goa141no6 2 жыл бұрын
Is not needed, 13600k is an almost max out 12600k, meaning you can get a b660 motherboard and B-die to lower you timings.
@MrDerguncik
@MrDerguncik 2 жыл бұрын
@@goa141no6 yep, also good. But I don't like b660 motherboards, potential problem with vrm
@goa141no6
@goa141no6 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDerguncik Try the MSI b660 pro wi-fi, they have good vrm (hardware unbox tested it), have around 5-6 layers of fiber and cost $125~140 on ddr4.
@jasonferreira4761
@jasonferreira4761 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, Loses to AMD's lowest end in gaming already, better choice is waiting for 3D V-Cache to destroy everything in gaming.
@MrDerguncik
@MrDerguncik 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonferreira4761 1 more year ? At that moment 13600k better
@mathesar
@mathesar 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting because in Gamers Nexus 13600K review it scored higher than the 7600X in most gaming tests and in Cyberpunk the 13600K was 5% faster than the 7950X (!) Guess its always good to get a 2nd opinion.
@jase240ads
@jase240ads 2 жыл бұрын
This could be due to the 22H2 update causing inconsistencies with different test setups. It seems to be hurting AMD's performance by a decent amount.
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 2 жыл бұрын
Power consumption for 13th gen seems to also be all over the place depending on the motherboard used 😐
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@MLWJ1993 when some don't use "balanced powerplan" the power skyrocket, making the E cores totally useless.
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 2 жыл бұрын
and how many games have Gamer Nexus in tests?? 5-6 only like all bigger channels with over million sucsribers !! Hardware Unboxed and Jarrod tech have 25 -54 games tests and there 7600x win while those ( lazy) guys as GN and Linux have few titles
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
@@MLWJ1993 its usualy very high and a mobo or cooler can make it run at less speed and watts than automatic 200w
@shinefake48
@shinefake48 Жыл бұрын
little update 7600x is $249 now, making it better deal, and thanks to its 32MB of cache memory, it benefits the competitive games more
@NarutoUzumaki-mo4ul
@NarutoUzumaki-mo4ul 8 ай бұрын
But 13600k is 30 to 50 percent faster in productivity
@Pividol
@Pividol 2 жыл бұрын
The 13600k makes way more since for me because I already have a compatible motherboard (b660) and I would have to spend at least 300 dollars more for ryzen.
@shreyasdharashivkar8027
@shreyasdharashivkar8027 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Intel to provide 5 year socket support.
@Birdman._.
@Birdman._. 2 жыл бұрын
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 am5 will support only 9000 series more only(probably also 11000(
@Caseoh_Music
@Caseoh_Music 2 жыл бұрын
sense*
@Pividol
@Pividol 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caseoh_Music autocorrect moment
@Caseoh_Music
@Caseoh_Music 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pividol cap...
@kotztotz3530
@kotztotz3530 Жыл бұрын
Most underrated desktop hardware reviewer. I know you mainly do laptop stuff, but your desktop hardware videos are better than HUB and Gamers Nexus.
@twistedoracle4555
@twistedoracle4555 2 жыл бұрын
AMD need to add more core to the Ryzen 5 lineup going forward.
@YudaXD8K_
@YudaXD8K_ 2 жыл бұрын
If amd want to up core. Amd muat have new motherboard
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 2 жыл бұрын
@@YudaXD8K_ why?
@KingKong-xp6so
@KingKong-xp6so 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the socket size
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 жыл бұрын
@@notenjoying666 AMD fails to compete ,, Agree :)
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 жыл бұрын
@@notenjoying666 Intel at 10nm already SMASHING useless AMD that uses 5nm ,, ahhh just think how quickly AMD will need to leave the CPU business once Intel moves to 5nm ,, LAOVE IT
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 2 жыл бұрын
At this level of CPU, all-core loads aren't the main concern. People in general are going to step up to 8 core parts like the 7700X or the 13700K or higher depending on how much all-core workloads they have So, from a gaming perspective they're about the same if you feed them about the same speed of memory. DDR4 isn't good enough anymore to push out the faster fps as should have been expected, so there is very little cost benefit doing either system. There are two advantages of going the AM5 route. If this is the level of gaming performance you want for now but you want to consider upgrading in the future, the MB is going to take up through Zen 6 CPUs. On the other hand 13th gen is the last CPU for LGA-1700. The next socket is LGA-1851 and it's for 14th and 15th gen. Also, a CPU upgrade for LGA-1700 after you already bought the 13600K doesn't make sense since the gains won't be enough to spend the money. The 2nd advantage REGARDLESS of how people view the way AMD does clock management based on temp, is the 7600X only uses about 45W during gaming. So, heat output from the SoC is going to be low EVEN THOUGH a single sensor on the die hits 95 C. So this is a very low power CPU for gaming. The 13600K on the other hand is using about 75W. This isn't high power but you're going to notice 30 extra watts in heat output. It's not going to be like a furnace, but added to the heat of the GPU it does start to matter. So, regardless of how people feel about a sensor hitting 95 C, power consumption is actually low for AMD parts during gaming. Even the 7700X uses less power than the 13600K during gaming, using only 62W on avg. These numbers are averages, as reported by Techpowerup. Other numbers for power consumption, the 5800X3D uses about 45W, so OUTSTANDING performance based on power consumption, the 13900K uses about 117W which is getting into flamethrower territory when you sum that with the heat of the GPU, and the 7950X is using about 87W. AMD CLEARLY has Intel beat in gaming performance based on power consumption for the last couple of generations of products. I use the 5800X3D and really enjoy it.
@jase240ads
@jase240ads 2 жыл бұрын
Is this affected by the new windows 11 22H2 AMD performance bug? If so these results may not be a fair comparison.
@rENEGADE666JEDI
@rENEGADE666JEDI 2 жыл бұрын
yes, almost 10% in the case of the versions with 2 chiplets. But that doesn't change anything anyway. Whatever you choose you will be pleased. I personally would go to AMD. I had 2600x, now I have 5800x and probably the next one will be 8800x. Unless Intel comes up with something cool in the future.
@jase240ads
@jase240ads 2 жыл бұрын
@@rENEGADE666JEDI It's definitely not a huge difference but 10% is enough of a difference to make the AMD offering a lot better for gaming. Would be nice if there could be a comparison with a Windows 11 before the 22H2 update and/or Win10 performance.
@maramara1967
@maramara1967 2 жыл бұрын
AMD is pushing hard this gen. What we need to consider is that AMD gaming CPU 3D V-cache is not out yet. Really start to think to go for AMD this gen....
@teddym2808
@teddym2808 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I am in shock Jarrod.. I thought the 13th gen would throttle the AMD in games.. to see it completely reversed was a real surprise.. for those who only want to game, the AMD therefore makes the most sense, I am guessing the 7700X will be the sweet spot overall. Lower power consumption and heat and higher FPS in most titles. For those doing gaming AND multi thread work, the Intel. For example for music production that involves a lot of tracks and plugins it would be the Intel hands down for me. Very interesting video, thanks! I am going to settle on the 13700K I have decided, but I am waiting for cooler tests to find something that can keep it below 100.
@storyanaksekolah2
@storyanaksekolah2 2 жыл бұрын
amd focus is gaming/efficiency bc productivity workload on reallife usage is verysmall different. they only shown on benchmark. but i think amd need to add more cores to ryzen 5 and 7 series to close the gap on productivity benchmark
@stevenanderson9532
@stevenanderson9532 2 жыл бұрын
@@storyanaksekolah2 Well as a gamer I disagree, because I've done my fair share of productivity & I always would let it run & walk off to let it do its job. So basically a within a 5minute difference is no big deal, and could just make separate productivity cpus if it was profitable.
@storyanaksekolah2
@storyanaksekolah2 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenanderson9532 5 minutes of what? render time? how about design/editing work? its longer than render time. also now you can use gpu acceleration. its way faster. so the cpu usage is just for the workflow
@stevenanderson9532
@stevenanderson9532 2 жыл бұрын
@@storyanaksekolah2 MP4 MKV, even a 4k render won't be instant on either. If your doing full motion editing it's more about which software usability in ease of use most of the time. Also if your inputing on excel or word I doubt either can run less then you type. Now if you are outputting to a plate for a newspaper it will still be limited to how fast the plate printer is. I know I did this work.
@TheStoso2
@TheStoso2 2 жыл бұрын
In other videos the 13600k outperforms/ties with 7600x with fewer games getting more frames with 7600x, this video is the only one I've seen where 13600k has this weird performance in comparison
@Kelkschiz
@Kelkschiz 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing based on the price of a CPU is pretty pointless, because owning a CPU in isolation is pretty pointless. When you look at platform costs, the 7600X is a lot more expensive than the 13600K.
@sstier48
@sstier48 2 жыл бұрын
It makes up for it a little by actually having a future upgrade path though, so if you plan on keeping your system for a few years, amd presents as good/better value
@Kelkschiz
@Kelkschiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sstier48 Yes, exactly. For that reason I was looking forward to getting an am5 system. But at the moment... The prices are just too high. Probably will wait till early next year to see how things look then.
@stevenanderson9532
@stevenanderson9532 2 жыл бұрын
Do to inflation I've decided to buy neither except in mobile laptop form.
@otozinclus3593
@otozinclus3593 2 жыл бұрын
Platform cost is roughly the same. DDR5 RAM doesnt cost much more than DDR4 anymore, its 20€ more here. And the cheapest AM5 board is 10€ cheaper than the cheapest LGA1700 Board here.
@hardwarevsgaming
@hardwarevsgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a benchmark comparison that uses the same memory kit, unlike other reviewers who use 6000mhz for amd then 6400mhz for Intel
@WilliamNFMS
@WilliamNFMS 2 жыл бұрын
@@green_block You understand there is a difference between messing with the cpus themselves and messing with the other parts right?
@vik1ng313
@vik1ng313 2 жыл бұрын
@@green_block Maybe a complete chart with Ryzen 5k/Intel 12k & 13k 3600C14, Ryzen 7k/Intel 13k 6000C30, Intel 13k with Intel recommended specs?
@jasonferreira4761
@jasonferreira4761 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 13600K Owners are not happy with these results as they are now losing by a 4% margin in gaming, so glad im waiting on 3D V-Cache, Wont even be close in gaming for intel.
@kinggenghis9192
@kinggenghis9192 Жыл бұрын
This was so much work to make! Thanks for doing this!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watchibng!
@sparklingbra
@sparklingbra 2 жыл бұрын
AMD Zen 4 launch is suffering from the same, albeit worse, problem as Intel's 12th Gen launch - overpriced motherboards. Being DDR5 exclusive also doesn't help AMD although DDR5 is rapidly becoming affordable. AMD's strategy is to reserve Zen 3 as its budget and midrange segment while Zen 4 is for high performance. This strategy fails on several grounds. The 7600X and 7700X are meant to be the 'budget' Zen 4 options but don't make any sense when compared to the 5800XD which is almost always faster in gaming and the 5950X which is always faster in productivity both of which are on the much cheaper Zen 3 platform. This strategy also fails to recognize that people generally do not like buying 'outdated' parts when purchasing firsthand. So most people are going to ignore Zen 3 in favour of 13th Gen despite Zen 3 still offering decent value options.
@buckduck3624
@buckduck3624 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely a problem with the motherboard cuz it's expensive to upgrade, but for AMD i am very interested in their mobile chips in the future for 7000 series cuz since they have great power efficiency and better cooling because of the lower wattage difference between AMD and intel. Some great laptops will come hopefully, if they don't fuck it up somehow.
@clansome
@clansome 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckduck3624 The power draw of the 13 gen is very much Motherboard dependant and if set up correctly can draw significantly less whilst the performance barely suffers. This can be with Zen 4 motherboards as well although the %age saving is not as great as they don't use as much to begin with. Looking at UK prices (cos that's where I am) the saving on CPU is offset and then some by the extra cost of the motherboard. X670E boards as tested here are VERY expensive.
@jubayerwasidraiyan5874
@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 2 жыл бұрын
AMD would've been okay if they made this gen compatible with ddr4 imo. 13th gen's power draw and high temps mean they're gonna be expensive due to electricity bills and people in hot countries just will NOT be able to run them properly
@clansome
@clansome 2 жыл бұрын
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Agreed but the eco performance, just like AMD, runs them a lot, lot cooler and temps are far better. Both companies are laying on the power and temps this round which in the current climate (no pun intended) is not a good optic.
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to scrap everything you said and use different logic. For most people, PCs were fast enough in 2018 for almost anything they do. Zen 3 with AM4 makes a VERY capable platform for most users. For gamers, there's a lot to consider. For people who use a desktop PC to do video editing and a a few other tasks, there's more to consider. So, Zen 3 is WAY more capable than what probably 80% of the global population needs. For professionals, they're expected to use Pro parts or have to accept what desktop offers. For the gamers, AM4 MBs are perfectly capable gaming platforms even WITH a 4090 as long as you get the 5800X3D. It's not ideal but it's certainly a good system. I'd say a person could STILL buy into that platform (B550, 5800X3D) and have great gaming experiences for the next 6 - 7 years. This is regardless of the fact that there are faster CPUs. That doesn't matter. What matters is if YOU like your system, the last I checked. And in fact that's exactly what I did and am more than happy using X570, 32GB CL16, 5800X3D and the 6800 XT as a 2K gaming platform and don't plan on giving it up for MY gaming until Zen 6 is out, and there's lots of reasons for that, one being I don't like the CPU-chipset link being only 8GB/s and I can't buy into AM5 until that's bumped up to 16GB/s otherwise it's no better than my X570 MB. For those people who run one or two NVMe drives, B650E with gen5 to the PCIe slot for the GPU is more than capable though Zen 6. You at least get the NVMe drives off the CPU at gen5 speed and you can upgrade the GPU in the future with a gen5 GPU. So it's a plenty capable platform for typical gamers who other than that do light workloads. It only gets messy if you REALLY need all the ports that X670/E offer because of the limitation of the CPU-chipset link. On the other hand, if you want to build the best gaming rig for Intel 13th gen you need DDR5 and that puts you at cost parity with AMD AM5 platforms. AND if you want to take advantage of the better CPU-chipset interface of 16GB/s like I would want then you need Z790. So no, AMD if perfectly fine with what they're doing. AM5 will pick up in sales once they release Vcache parts so which most the AMD fans I see in comment threads seem to be waiting for just like I would, and they they'll pick up even more when their RDNA 3 based APUs come out because THOSE will be the best APUs on the market and will game just like low end GPUs, and this means people buying those get REAL 1080p gaming performance without having to buy a GPU. Intel might have this parity for APUs once they release Meteor Lake but I don't think Raptor Lake will. In other words, what exists right now for Zen 4 isn't appealing because it doesn't match up right. They'll be GREAT gaming platforms, but for people wanting to buy into AM5 for gaming most of them are waiting for Vcache parts. They'll be GREAT for people who want decent GPU performance but don't want to spend the money on a GPU. Once partners put out lower cost MBs they'll be GREAT for typical usage. But 600 series MBs have a limitation with the CPU-chipset link which different types of special case users or content creators that want to take advantage of 4 NVMe ports on the MB because of that 8GB/s cap on the link. As long as that speed is acceptable to a person then AM5 is perfectly fine. And everything I said about Zen 3 would also be true for Intel 10th gen, but there isn't a kick ass gaming CPU for 10th gen like there is the 5800X3D. If you don't consider gaming, 10th gen CPU are WAY more capable than what 80% of the population of the world needs. As far as 12th gen, Meh. If you follow the Amazon top 50 best selling CPUs on Amazon, AMD has dominated the top 20, and these are DIY builders now. People LOVE taking advantage of lower cost products and AMD with Zen 3 is dominating here no matter what you say. The Amazon top 50 list has shown this to be the case for the last 6 months. There's going to be an initial surge for 13th gen purchases, and then it will slow down and people will be buying everything from 10th gen - 13th gen CPUs and they'll be buying Zen 2 - Zen 4 CPUs just like they have been. The data don't lie.
@Wusyaname_
@Wusyaname_ 2 жыл бұрын
Got a 5600x for $150 on Amazon prime day in July. Mobo for $110idh, DDR4 for $50. It cost almost as much as a 7600x by itself, really good for budget gaming.
@Rico24337
@Rico24337 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a sweet deal, nice.
@glordium1951
@glordium1951 2 жыл бұрын
5600x is by default at 150$ on aliexpress lol, and the cheapest am4 mobo's are about 55$ aswell
@Wusyaname_
@Wusyaname_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@glordium1951 I don’t trust Ali express and want am5 for pcie 4.0. Gonna upgrade to a new gpu because I do plan to get a 3440x1440p or 4K monitor soon. 3060 ti is fine for now for 1080p.
@nevmiku
@nevmiku Жыл бұрын
@@Wusyaname_ AM4 has PCIe Gen 4. You need to use B550 board or higher.
@ukaszkubicki2375
@ukaszkubicki2375 Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel, thank you for your work. I will be switching off my ad block waching your videos.
@galeanoandres
@galeanoandres 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including 1440p ! ❤
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@auritro3903
@auritro3903 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to Intel for not overpricing their CPUs. Thanks to AMD for kicking Intel in the nuts to start innovating again. Thanks to Intel for creating great early Core-Branding products like Sandy Bridge to force AMD to come up with a newer and better architecture. Thanks to AMD for being competitive with their Athlons throughout the 2000s to make sure Intel kept making good products. Thanks to Intel for inventing the first CPU to begin with. Thanks to Bill Shockley for being an asshole to his employees, which force them to leave to form Fairchild and Intel.
@Apeeksiht
@Apeeksiht Жыл бұрын
There's now a 90 dollar difference in my country. 7700x is now in 13600k territory.
@robertstan298
@robertstan298 2 жыл бұрын
Can you get your hands on some 7700X and 13700K to test similarly? The AMD lower end parts look great for gaming and efficiency, but they need to lower the MSRPs at some point in the near future, Intel really cut into their margins to eek out better price competitivity (RTL dies are quite a bit bigger than ADL). They need the lower prices twofold, since they also need to make room for the X3D parts (the segmentation/pricing). Which allegedly will be on a whole new level than both Vanilla Zen4 and 5800X3D (new stacking tech and more experience on building them).
@giobaldu
@giobaldu 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone doing 1% low at 4k, where people reading these sort of comparison actually care!
@Jinny-Wa
@Jinny-Wa 2 жыл бұрын
Went with the 13600k as im constantly alt tabbing and multitasking while playing games
@ayushsinghal604
@ayushsinghal604 Жыл бұрын
Now with the addition of 7600 at 230$ which gives basically the same performance as 7600x but with lower Tgp, and hance more efficient there is no reason to go for team blue.
@Furkan123-nm9bg
@Furkan123-nm9bg Жыл бұрын
if you are not on render or smthng
@portman8909
@portman8909 Жыл бұрын
6 cores won't be enough. Intel is the way to go.
@3polygons
@3polygons 2 жыл бұрын
IMO the difference in threads is too big, here. Yep, they are considered same category (intel did change the game here a bit) but while I see the point of doing so, 12 threads against a cpu with 20 threads (and the e-cores are very good for productivity, so is not that much of a lesser core in this scenario) is going to give the advantage to the latter, big time, if both generations are more or less recent. Clearly seen when realizing how identical these two are for Photoshop (or cinebench single core). I'd get the 7600X for _only_ , or mainly, Photoshop uses. And probably the 13600k for a station mainly for video. Or the 7700X for that. As he says in another video tho, the AM5 platform it seems will have more of an upgrade path in the future. And... for those into gaming (not me, I just do casuals or other low end gaming) the X3D chips might tell a very different story. But if it is like the last time, those chips tend to be slower than the no-x3d version for productivity, so this is the peak in productivity from AMD. Again, IMO price will be the factor, as intel in same category is not having the same number of cores anymore. Which is funny, as it has been always accused of having bet for more clock speed and not caring bout cores. Turnes have tabled. These videos are amazing, loved the other new one about the 13900k vs 7950x.
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 жыл бұрын
13600k is AWESOME ,,, drinking the tears of the AMD fan/soy boys delights me
@martineyles
@martineyles 2 жыл бұрын
Both these CPUs seem to be overkill for gaming, as the frame rates at 4k are still really high. For now I think I'd save money and buy a cheaper 12xxx or 5xxx chip or wait for this generation's budget chips to launch. Still, what I'm really waiting for is a better GPU price to performance.
@Luka_Nogalo
@Luka_Nogalo 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we'll get lucky on Nov 3rd
@dwikydarmawan6373
@dwikydarmawan6373 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, at 4k, it's more about the GPU rather than the CPU. At 4k, you probably be fine with something like 12400f or 5600. There is no need to to even glance at this gen, assuming that you have 4090 level of performance, which was used on this CPU review
@shreyasrd2034
@shreyasrd2034 2 жыл бұрын
Buy 12400f
@doctorfresh3856
@doctorfresh3856 2 жыл бұрын
IN GAMING! This is an ABSOLUTE BUTTWHIPPING! The 7600x is handing INTEL it's behind.
@clansome
@clansome 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorfresh3856 Err no it's not. Look at total platform cost for a start.
@narcoleptic-insomniac4663
@narcoleptic-insomniac4663 Жыл бұрын
So now that i can get the 7600X for $200 going intel just seems stupid
@SouthwestGaming
@SouthwestGaming 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video 🔥, Intel does have a price advantage with ddr4 and b660 support for those wanting to save money, the b660 aorus master at $164 supports 13th gen and can be flashed without a cpu
@grey.98
@grey.98 2 жыл бұрын
That's also right If u care abt upgrading then it's Amd If it's about saving money and not really considering later upgrade then intel is great.. I still hate the watts and temps on both sadly That's the only issue they don't pay attention for..
@horuherodorigesu241
@horuherodorigesu241 2 жыл бұрын
@@grey.98 True but 13600k on DDR4 is even slower.
@grey.98
@grey.98 2 жыл бұрын
@@horuherodorigesu241 no way bro As long as the MB covers the watts needed all u need is just the rams.. Plus it depends on what kind of work u r doing if it's gaming and creating medium level then it won't fail or even feel slow But if u r a creator the more expensive the better the equation would be..
@XX-_-XX420
@XX-_-XX420 Жыл бұрын
kinda, but theyre not that much cheaper, you can have a decent AM5 mobo for like 170 bucks, the cheapest 1700 board you want to pair with a cpu with suchs a higher power draw really starts at basically the same price ( cheapest 1700 board that even has VRMs was like +/- 150 last time I checked for somebody).
@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184
@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 Жыл бұрын
@@grey.98 actually it is slower, especially on Ubisoft games.
@rrradu_
@rrradu_ Жыл бұрын
The 13600K mostly beats the 7600X in DirectX 12 games, but stumbles in DX 11 and 9
@maxmaxo9971
@maxmaxo9971 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😢
@alexjones2141
@alexjones2141 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing gaming and creator scenarios good sir 👍👌🙏
@peymany.a5071
@peymany.a5071 2 жыл бұрын
You do the best benchmarks here
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see both CPU manufacturers trading blows, giving us consumers great products!
@Kaygoooo
@Kaygoooo 2 жыл бұрын
Trading blows? Besides 7950X Intel scrapped everything that AMD can offer, especially 7600X.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaygoooo With 9th, 10th & 11th gen vs what AMD had at the time, it was the opposite; AMD smoked Intel in performance. This back and forth between CPU manufacturers like this is exactly what we need; without it, companies get lazy...
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 2 жыл бұрын
@@green_block Except it was around 50% faster in multi core while consuming much less power. I mean, a Ryzen 4900HS, a 35 watt LAPTOP CPU was close to beating a 9900K DESKTOP CPU. Intel just didn't have an answer to that until 12th gen because they were too lazy to add more cores once AMD were (temporarily) out of the market with their awful Bulldozer architecture. Ryzen was the turnaround they and the market needed, and combined with Apple's own silicon, it pushed Intel back into actually having to compete rather than just offer quad core CPUs for 5 generations and have 14 nm CPUs from 5th gen to 10th/11th gen.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian True. But we have to thank AMD for forcing Intel off their lazy ass.
@KingKong-xp6so
@KingKong-xp6so 2 жыл бұрын
Garrus. Lmao trollkid. Intel consume less power in gaming still trash amdead in productivity
@Илья-ц7ш5ч
@Илья-ц7ш5ч 2 жыл бұрын
Ждал этого теста именно от тебя .
@vatsalyasinghi438
@vatsalyasinghi438 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any major differences between i5-12400H/i5-12450H/i5-12500H from their newer 13th gen counterparts ??
@Aditya-sj4ev
@Aditya-sj4ev 2 жыл бұрын
Great video jarrod 👍🏾. Hope you can get your hands on the 13900k
@cool_cat007smoove3
@cool_cat007smoove3 Жыл бұрын
Great video segment. If you are playing open world games then you will see the i5-13600k stretch it's legs. The chart clearly shows it. I recommend the i5-13600k for content creators.
@mikekrg
@mikekrg 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I don't get it. I see every other channel showing the 13600K beating the 7600X except from this one.
@Baz87100
@Baz87100 Ай бұрын
Let's be totally honest here - if you're a content creator or do lots of video editing/general high CPU demanding tasks, you're probably not gonna be looking at either of these CPUS. However, as a gamer the 7600x is a no brainer: - Way less power consumption out of the box - Can set a curve optimiser in BIOS or Ryzen Master for lower voltage and higher clocks, and of course lower temps - Cheaper - Better FPS in most games
@dhruvachoudhary2365
@dhruvachoudhary2365 11 ай бұрын
I’m getting the 7600x for 256 usd and 13600k for 353 usd which one should I go with?
@MDnub.
@MDnub. 11 ай бұрын
7600x for sure in my country the i5 13600k is only 10$ more expensive, but a 100$ difference is crazy
@johnvs7169
@johnvs7169 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO it is not correct to define value with only the processor price, without taking into consideration the total platform cost. AMD really need to make some corrections in MSRPs and have some chat with AIBs for the ridiculous prices in motherboards.
@Setyawan46
@Setyawan46 2 жыл бұрын
are we on a state of reaching the point of diminishing return from a good CPU? i mean like comparing games that already at 100+ FPS is something, whether going for Intel or AMD you barely can go wrong with your option
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 2 жыл бұрын
For gaming, yeah, we kind of did.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 2 жыл бұрын
At 4:08 13600k was not 43% faster, as you claimed. Do the math again, amigo.
@stefanflorin288
@stefanflorin288 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe where they reached with this prices, to pay just for a processor more than a gaming console.......
@SnaikHead
@SnaikHead 2 жыл бұрын
Jarrod i have an idea for you to test my good buddy, Recently in the world of Dj'ing, a dj software company named Serato introduced a feature on its dj software where it can separate 4 STEMS (vocal-instrument-base-beat) on the fly while mixing. the thing is this feature uses a huuuuuge about of CPU power to which people are talking that if you don't have an M1 at least u cant utilize this feature. to make a long story short, can you maybe dive into this subject as it is EXTREMLY important to djs across the globe and no pro tech guy ever covered the subject. i think this will be some very unique content for you as well!!! cheers!!
@codyguy2643
@codyguy2643 2 жыл бұрын
A contrast to tech deals where the 13600k had a decent lead over the 7600x in their gaming test.
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
Every other benchmark on youtube says the 13600k much better and also outperform 7700x in games.
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian jarrods benchmarks are bollocks. Only he has this strange numbers lol
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian just check any other benchmark the 13600k outperform the 7600x and in few titles the whole 7000x series…. Only test i saw was a tie where they used ddr4
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian don’t cry please 🙏
@ashtonlipscomb1295
@ashtonlipscomb1295 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian no he wins the argument
@air-Con.duction6470
@air-Con.duction6470 Жыл бұрын
I been watching your content a lot lately. I subscribed and gave a like
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@eltk1785
@eltk1785 2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 5 7600X better for gaming, i5-13600K better for those who game and do heavy workloads on their PC. It is up to you and what you do in your PC that needs more than 6 cores. And dont forget, the AMD sockets just wont die. Personally I would go for AMD thanks to longer support and given their commitment in recent years, I would expect them to up the game with the next generation adding more cores to their CPUs. As for Intel, as tempting as it looks, basically their next gen CPU-s need a whole new platform upgrade and this things keep happening every 2 years. People got shocked they could upgrade from a 1700X to 5800X3D and this is what AMD upgrade path brings to the table.
@aktan4ik
@aktan4ik 2 жыл бұрын
Is running chrome and streaming videos considered heavy workload?
@Caseoh_Music
@Caseoh_Music 2 жыл бұрын
but for most fps the 13600k is also better at games so amd is rly bad
@HasimFN
@HasimFN 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caseoh_Music are u blind?
@Caseoh_Music
@Caseoh_Music 2 жыл бұрын
@@HasimFN are u blind?
@HasimFN
@HasimFN 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caseoh_Music amd gets more fps u say intel is better at games lfmao
@Hyperion1722
@Hyperion1722 2 жыл бұрын
For a new PC buyer almost evenly matched. But Intel has the edge especially for those who wanted to upgrade their intel CPUs as they can still use the same motherboard and memory. For AMD, you have no other option but to replace your MB and buy a DDR5 memory which entails more cost. Anyways, if you have a shiny RTX 4090 and playing 4K resolution, it does not matter to upgrade your CPU as a 5600x or even a 12400F could have an fps within striking distance of their big cpu brothers.
@Petrixxxxxxx
@Petrixxxxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
And if you want to upgrade the system in the future, on AMD you simply swap the CPU and in Intel, you buy a New setup. Im 100% going with AMD because i like the longevity of the socket they make.
@Hyperion1722
@Hyperion1722 2 жыл бұрын
@@Petrixxxxxxx Not keen on buying the new CPUs as the previous gen will be an ok upgrade for me. My 6700K still serves me well for hires gaming. Would just have to push my GPU to get the right fps. With RT Ultra and Quality DLSS, I still hit 70 fps for Cyberpunk at 1620P. That is fine with me.
@gilgamesh1245
@gilgamesh1245 Жыл бұрын
AMD = cheaper, more performance, future proof
@-Krispin-
@-Krispin- Жыл бұрын
Future proofing doesn’t exist so long as technology improves. You’ll keep upgrading as you move down the line to get the best performance.
@gilgamesh1245
@gilgamesh1245 Жыл бұрын
@@-Krispin- at least not as short as intel
@auradrifter7779
@auradrifter7779 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I’m actually seeing more benefits from AMD for gaming. I was going to buy a 13600K, but after watching this, I might go AMD or wait until next year when lower end launches
@YudaXD8K_
@YudaXD8K_ 2 жыл бұрын
Haha :v i upgrade processor 3 years im use 2600x want buy i5 14600k next year
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 жыл бұрын
Get your eyes tested
@makeurmomproud
@makeurmomproud Жыл бұрын
@@tilapiadave3234 found the Intel fan boy (maybe a blind guy as well)
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 Жыл бұрын
@@makeurmomproud
@_6-6_
@_6-6_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think building now would be decent, 13600k with the best ddr4, rather than paying the enthusiast tax and being a Guinea pig. Buying ddr5 now feels bad, they’ll probably have better ddr5 the more and more mature it gets
@gregnezz
@gregnezz 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarod, if you have your msi 2080 ti still. Could you post an i5 13600k and ddr4 16gb benchmark please. I just bought a 13600kf and am upgrading from 6th gen i7 6700k.
@RicardoSilvaTripcall
@RicardoSilvaTripcall 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I also have a i7 6700k, and planing to get a 13600k, and to keep my 16gb ddr4, it was worth the upgrade? how is general performance? cheers !
@ishfar421
@ishfar421 Жыл бұрын
Im going to build my first pc, and currently there's a sale going on for the 7600x and theres a $100 difference, really don't know if the 13600K is worth $100 more...
@zenithchan1646
@zenithchan1646 Жыл бұрын
You have to consider the motheeboard prices too
@majorpayne0195
@majorpayne0195 2 жыл бұрын
I will choose 7600x over 13600k. Reason: AM5 is a new platform, I can upgrade my processor in the future if I needed to let say 3rd gen AM5 LGA 1700 is a dead end plaform anyway so for me no sense to invest on it especially to a person who loves to upgrade.
@dalefrancis9414
@dalefrancis9414 2 жыл бұрын
@The Mighty Everglades but here you are responding... Typical. You should've scrolled along.
@primekrunkergamer188
@primekrunkergamer188 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I wont pay premium price for slower performance for the ability to upgrade next few years because I intend to have the same PC for atleast 3-5 years if not more
@doctorfresh3856
@doctorfresh3856 2 жыл бұрын
@@primekrunkergamer188 Slower, Did you see those charts? 7600x is whooping the 13600k behind in gaming.
@TheYanaro
@TheYanaro 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorfresh3856 Except that every other big youtubers like LTT or GN showed that 13600k was better
@doctorfresh3856
@doctorfresh3856 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheYanaro Who cares what other people results say. Go watch them then. As far as what I've seen, In gaming the 7600x either wins or ties. 🤷
@grey.98
@grey.98 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best comparison of both Amd & Intel new generation
@Sysiu
@Sysiu 2 жыл бұрын
your review in this cpu generation is under rated
@zeropride1133
@zeropride1133 2 жыл бұрын
aka if you are not using the godly 4090 for gaming they are gonna be gpu limited. buy a nice 13600k or 7600x and pair it with the next mid range gpu out of amd/nvidia.
@solaris413
@solaris413 Жыл бұрын
problem is not 7600x, problem is its motherboard price, here in india I am getting its motherboard at $320 while the CPU at less than $300
@durgeshvj4749
@durgeshvj4749 Жыл бұрын
whole cpu for 300?? where?? whats the configuration?
@joaojgac
@joaojgac 2 жыл бұрын
Eagerly to see this review! As always nice content Jarrod's!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@SB-qo2fo
@SB-qo2fo 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather compare the 13600k with the 7700x. The 13600K/KF is much better deal than the 7600x for arround 300$.
@ThePauch1
@ThePauch1 2 жыл бұрын
No point comparing two different prized products
@SB-qo2fo
@SB-qo2fo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePauch1 No point compairing 6C/12T to 14C/20T CPU. Even with 8E Cores in the 13600k. The real competitor to the 7600x is the upcoming 13400K/KF. This shows that the 7600x and 7700x are overpriced, and AMD should reduce prices or release 7600 and 7700 (non X). I'm not fan for Intel, I have amd CPU. But Intel CPUs are better deal this time. Especially with the expensive AMD motherboards.
@anonymous_504
@anonymous_504 2 жыл бұрын
Next video: Running heavy games on Intel i9 13th gen without GPU/video card
@LatinLegacyNY
@LatinLegacyNY 2 жыл бұрын
DDR5 6000 🫠. Don’t do that if you’re planning to go with the 13600K. Either get yourself one of the better DDR4 kits or go with DDR5 6400+. The 13600K was handicapped with the memory used here.
@willpower1177
@willpower1177 Жыл бұрын
Grabbed the 7600x for $250 and got Star Wars: Jedi Survivor for free not to mention, AM5 will be supported for 2 more generations
@JoeGP
@JoeGP Ай бұрын
would be interesting to see the Ryzen 9600x vs whatever intel has, specially now with the Win 11 24H2 update giving AMD a nice boost.
@joshb4613
@joshb4613 2 жыл бұрын
You delivered for me when I was laptop shopping last year (and very happy with my Asus G15 with Ryzen processor). And you're delivering again with the processors now. And great to see the continued melodic death metal T-shirt wearing :)
@dashridla625
@dashridla625 2 жыл бұрын
As of right now 7600x is 250$ and comes with free 16gb DDR5 5600mhz ram at Microcenter and New egg running a sale Asrock b-650 Mobo for $150 just picked both of this for 400$ plus tax so stoked!
@h1tzzYT
@h1tzzYT 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree with your conclusion. Not only total platform is much cheaper for 13600k but if you want, you can pair it with ddr4 which doesnt perform that much worse compared to ddr5. ddr4 can be super relevant for users who already have it from their previous systems. 13600k performs in the same ballpark in gaming and much better in core heavy workloads AND is much cheaper. Recommending 7600k just for couple % of gaming advantage and questionable upgradeability path is ludicrous, considering that most people upgrade their cpus at the earliest every 3 years and by that time current am5 mobos will be significantly outdated and most likely unsupported. Now if anyone says "but amd made commitment to support am5 through 2025" Well they certainly did, here is the catch though "am5" not "b650/x670 chipset motherboards" Not to mention that the price saved today with 13600k+ddr4+z690 already easily covers new motherboard when you will want to upgrade your system later. zen 4 are not bad products but their cpus and motherboards are severely overpriced.
@Shineinpoverty
@Shineinpoverty 2 жыл бұрын
Idk... My mobo cpu and gpu are all freaking old, I mean 4-6 yo. For people like me a platform price does not even matter. I will upgrade everything
@h1tzzYT
@h1tzzYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shineinpoverty 4 year old cpu is not that old and performs very well, something like 8700k or 9900k are still fine for todays gaming unless you are chasing super high refresh rates but then the price to performance metric goes out of the window anyway :)
@unknownpeople8422
@unknownpeople8422 Жыл бұрын
in gaming i prefer ryzen, since intel so hot when gaming and u need proper cooler that makes your budget scale high
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 2 жыл бұрын
If you do gaming and work, go intel. If gaming and upgradability is your main concern, go for amd.
@hoangd4132
@hoangd4132 2 жыл бұрын
it's just dumb to spend more at the moment for a way worse product for the sake of "upgradability". buy a 13600k and you can just skip entire AM5/14th,15th socket.
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoangd4132 I respectfully disagree. You can save more, have better performance in the long run but you'll have the worse experience in multicore productivity at the moment. If gaming is your only concern and future upgrades for cheap, let's say in 3 years, go amd. If you need it for work and gaming NOW, go intel.
@rdmz135
@rdmz135 2 жыл бұрын
Or just wait 2 months for x3d
@zeljkoni21
@zeljkoni21 2 жыл бұрын
Why all other review on internet show 13xx at least a lead by 1-10% in games and only this one review does not????? do AMD pay you?
@utkarshrajpurohit1554
@utkarshrajpurohit1554 Жыл бұрын
Extra 30$? ~100$ here😤
@ThatOneGuyC
@ThatOneGuyC 11 ай бұрын
this video is over 1 yr old
@BasedOtter
@BasedOtter 2 жыл бұрын
I am really interested to see how much of performance drops if you use the 13600k with ddr4 compared to ddr5 ram and how much the price changes for ram and motherboard
@KimKiKi0
@KimKiKi0 2 жыл бұрын
Some DDR5 modules have become competitive in price to DDR4, at least here in the UK. Can't really remember but there isn't a large % window between DDR4 and 5 for 13th gen. Depending on how local prices are, you aren't sacrificing much
@cowdumdum
@cowdumdum 2 жыл бұрын
it's about 3-5 % of performance difference between ddr 4 and ddr 5 memory
@showtrue65
@showtrue65 2 жыл бұрын
램오버를 안할시에는 기본메모리 설정으로 ddr5와 ddr4 성능차이 거의 없다고 보면됩니다. 따라서 z690 이나 z790 의 ddr4 슬롯버전메인보드들이 기존 ddr4 램을 활용할수 있기에 인기가 있는 이유라고 보여짐
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
bro on am5 mobo and ram i think are cheap enough slightly more than am4 and ddr4 50$ more
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
@@cowdumdum its about 100% performance difference between ddr4 and ddr5, first intel ddr5 ran at low speeds like overclocked ddr4 and now amd made real ddr5 intel also made real ddr5 in 13000
@ZealousPumpkinTV
@ZealousPumpkinTV 2 жыл бұрын
My best option if I don't want to wait for B760 boards next year is to get an i7-12700K + MSI B660 mag mortar D4 wifi on black friday, I'm limited to mATX motherboards due to my case unfortunately but hopefully the 12700K reaches a discount price of around 300-320$. As a content creator, I think those 2 extra physical cores help more in streaming than 6 cores on the 13600K. Although they might get more FPS in games, that could change when multi-tasking and streaming at the same time.
@BladeXDNumeroUno
@BladeXDNumeroUno 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the 13600k is better even in multi threaded applications, the extra 2 cores don't make up for the performance boost from each core on the 13600
@ZealousPumpkinTV
@ZealousPumpkinTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@BladeXDNumeroUno I bet it is but I can only fit micro ATX boards in my case and most Z boards are full ATX and if mATX, very expensive. Z690 require bios and I dont have a 12th gen laying around to update, bios flash is supported on some models only and it's a finnicky process, The 12700K has everything I need and it's already a beast! :)
@BladeXDNumeroUno
@BladeXDNumeroUno 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian the 13600k is a lot more energy efficient that's why I'd pick that over 13700k personally but I only play games
@BladeXDNumeroUno
@BladeXDNumeroUno 2 жыл бұрын
@Garrus Vakarian can also undervolt the 13600k to get even lower though
@gammaray2260
@gammaray2260 2 жыл бұрын
Change the case, the matx case are fournaces.
@GridNomofTheShyulk
@GridNomofTheShyulk 2 жыл бұрын
Jarrod is a metal lover. He listens Insomnium. You should do best heaphones comparison too under a specific segment.
@erin758
@erin758 Ай бұрын
14:34 the practical choice is 13600k/kf
@bergdk237
@bergdk237 2 жыл бұрын
for me,this is the first review of i5 13600k vs 7600x, where the later wins🤔
@loldatfunny
@loldatfunny 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer AMD's out of the box power draw but even with that I can't justify spending same amount of money on architecture that's outdated. I'm hoping AMD comes out with performance + efficiency core CPU like Intel. Most likely going to get the 13600K for my PC build still
@Commentarian1
@Commentarian1 2 жыл бұрын
...and what about performance & efficiency cores is "better?" Intel is clearly losing the performance per watt war here. And from what I read Windows has (or had?) some issues properly utilizing this core set up. Different is not equal to innovative.
@alexsvilla7962
@alexsvilla7962 2 жыл бұрын
amd is winning in gaming and no difference on apps also amd can't get beat in power consumption.
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Commentarian1
@Shvebz
@Shvebz 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "outdated " architecture ... LMAO . Intel's next gen Meteor and Arrow lake will have the same "Chiplet" design as AMD indroducing since Ryzen 3000 .
@xHighPotencyx
@xHighPotencyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Commentarian1 the power draw behavior here is probably being caused by the motherboard. It shouldn't draw so many watts for an extended period of time, and the actual power draw of the 13600K while gaming is pretty respectable.
@madeyudhiarsana8018
@madeyudhiarsana8018 2 жыл бұрын
what about power consumption comparison while gaming?
@lmrecordsgaming8003
@lmrecordsgaming8003 Жыл бұрын
The choice is this simply. Whatever is cheapest buy that brand if your getting an amd gpu buy an amd cpu if your getting nvidia buy either.
@portman8909
@portman8909 Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's Intel. 59% improvement in multicore is no joke. AMD sucks this generation.
@lmrecordsgaming8003
@lmrecordsgaming8003 Жыл бұрын
@@portman8909 multi core performance is not everything and temps play a big roll and also price plays a big roll
@mikyxz1425
@mikyxz1425 2 жыл бұрын
Really well done mate. You deserved a like :)
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review as 99% of the other reviews got the 13600k better then the 7600x and sometime even better then the 7700x.
@freddyt55555
@freddyt55555 2 жыл бұрын
99% of the reviewers are using 6400Mhz DDR5 sticks for the Intel processor and 6000Mhz for AMD.
@gergelykiss1142
@gergelykiss1142 2 жыл бұрын
@@freddyt55555 well, 400mhz not doing anything on ram. I had to oc my 5600cl36 to 7022mhz cl30 to see improvements.
@mickeyriola9087
@mickeyriola9087 Жыл бұрын
Lol cause amd chips can’t run ram speed higher then the Intel chip . Period . Just a fact . Idk why you even mention that cause it doesn’t effect performance that much in most cases
@vikrambhaskar7976
@vikrambhaskar7976 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry man but your conclusion in the end was terrible. I usually like your content but this time you seemed so carefull and diplomatic towards both the brands. You recommended the 7600X for gaming just because it was 5% faster in 1080P? Even for just gaming that's horrible advice! In your own graphs the 13600K shows it is a faaar better well rounded cpu offering excellent gaming and productivity performance putting it in a completely different class (near 7700X territory). There is literally no point in buying the 7600X especially factoring in the total platform cost. Please try to be bit more straightforward and critical in your future reviews
@rdmz135
@rdmz135 2 жыл бұрын
He's right though. If all you do is game the 7600x is better for that. If you do productivity as well rhen obviously the 13600k is better. What's hard to understand?
@A_9_0-OP
@A_9_0-OP Жыл бұрын
Bro is just simping on intel 💀
@Frieza.43
@Frieza.43 Жыл бұрын
Lel stop crying, Intel FaN boy. Everyone knows thst AMD is the best bang for the buck.😂😂😂😂 BTW I own 7600 and it's a beast.
@gulvindersingh2275
@gulvindersingh2275 2 жыл бұрын
I5 13600k draws 351W, it is the same as the RTX 3080 power draw. 12gen and 13gen are really are power hungry chips
@AgoxGaming
@AgoxGaming 2 жыл бұрын
THNX TO INTEL AND NVIDIA FOR UPCOMMING GLOBAL WARMING we are getting DOOM by fools
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
all intel cpus are power hungry, my 1700 uses 55w on all cores 100% and an 4 core intel uses 50w per core
@AgoxGaming
@AgoxGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noooo23523 all i5 non overclocked used barely 50 avg 60 max and upto 20-40 without gaming and barely 10 watt when left alone.. this company are selling same chip with overclocking too much
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgoxGaming not overclocked i remember i5 and i7 4 cores used 150 200 w auto boosting
@AgoxGaming
@AgoxGaming 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Noooo23523 i m not judging... i m telling the actual power consumption esp when you are miner..its ez to detect the actual power consumption... my ryzne 3700x consumme 95-105 watts when overclocked normal precision boost..while my friend i9 takes 175 to 200 watt when turning on boost in mobo all while gaming or testing gpu
@giveaway6314
@giveaway6314 2 жыл бұрын
Only handful of reviews would recommend 7600X, is this a sponsored video of AMD ?
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@JPEaglesandKatz
@JPEaglesandKatz 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure in what part of the world the 13600K costs 300,= but definitely not in Europe.. More like 420,= euros so not sure you are making the right comparison...
@alvar891
@alvar891 2 жыл бұрын
Here both 7600x and 13600kf are 379eur
@niceuuuuuu
@niceuuuuuu 2 жыл бұрын
He is making the right comparison you just have different prices
@misterhoudi2824
@misterhoudi2824 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see i5-14500 vs Ryzen 5 7600x.
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