Best 4x2 or 250W to 300W led grow light 2024

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MIGRO

6 ай бұрын

I review the best grow lights I have tested for a 4ft x 2ft or 120cm x 60cm grow space. These are the best grow lights from 250 watts to 300 watts I have tested and are available on the market today.
Full blog post here: migrolight.com/blogs/grow-light-reviews/best-grow-light-for-a-4-x-2-grow-tent-2022-12-grow-lights-compared
The calculation for 3 year cost is based on delivering 800 µmols average PAR to the plant canopy in a 4ft x 2ft area. The cost includes the price of the fixture and the cost of electricity at the average US rate of 16.8C per KW hour run for 3 years at 12 hours per day.
Grow light listing in order:
Spider Farmer G4500: spider-farmer.com/products/spider-farmer-g4500-cost-effective-full-spectrum-led-grow-light/
MIGRO ARAY 4: migrolight.com/collections/led-grow-lights/products/migro-aray-4-140w-265w
Viparspectra P2000: amzn.to/2NbzHcW
Atreum Lighting Hydra 3200: atreumlighting.com/products/hydra-3200?ref=migro
HLG 350R diablo: horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-350r
MARS Hydro SP3000: bit.ly/2JyJRCb
Spider Farmer SF2000: spider-farmer.com
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@Vogel451
@Vogel451 5 ай бұрын
What about: Pro grow 320 -301B Kind x420 Chiltech x4 500w 301B Mars fc4000 301H Evo Tarantula torch, 320 AC Infinity?
@altruistic_grower
@altruistic_grower 4 ай бұрын
Just grabbed the Aray 4+red really dig what you did with the build. Appreciate your work my man 🤙
@doobie7105
@doobie7105 4 ай бұрын
The man is a genius bro 💪🇮🇪
@theredneckhippie1515
@theredneckhippie1515 6 ай бұрын
Im on year 3 with my SP-3000. It's still the best light out of all my tents.
@NisseCrusader
@NisseCrusader 6 ай бұрын
Long have i waited for this video from you! Thank you.
@josephmoore3543
@josephmoore3543 6 ай бұрын
I thank you for all of the wonderful information you provide. You helped me make my decision on a couple of lights for 2 x 4. I went with 2 viparspectra xs 1500 pro for my 2 x 4. Awesome lights for the money.
@michiel9031
@michiel9031 6 ай бұрын
Just got the ARAY 1 in house, looks very nice ! Thank you..
@guruganjagoat5281
@guruganjagoat5281 6 ай бұрын
I got myself a 4x2 and migro array 4 just last week. Awesome to see the 3year price of electricity is about the same id spend in a month on my herb!! Nicewan shane!!
@Zardnokalicious
@Zardnokalicious 6 ай бұрын
The SP3000 was my first grow light. I bought it and hung it over half of a 5X5, once I got started, I added another one. I added a tent and upgraded to FC-E8000 which is definitely more light than my two SP3000 tent, but the quality level from the SP3000 always seems to be just a tad better than the FC-E8000 tent. I am looking now to replace the two SP3000 with another larger bar light and move the SP3000s into 2X4 tents for a mom tent and tester tent.
@racerx3669
@racerx3669 6 ай бұрын
Great video again. Cheers from minneapolis.
@jorgkoch3532
@jorgkoch3532 6 ай бұрын
2 x Vipar xs 1500 Pro is wonderful 👍 and my favorite ❤
@zakdigital
@zakdigital 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Hope you’ll do a 1’x2’ shelf light review next 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 setting up shelves in the office so If high cri and low flicker could also be discussed that would be great!
@PizzaJesus
@PizzaJesus 4 ай бұрын
Hlg 65 are great low watt options higher wattage I would consider dimmed viparspectra 1500xs dimmed hlg100s, or array 1s
@growersmindset
@growersmindset 4 ай бұрын
i needed a whole new 4x2 setup and was finally able to do it. ended up going w the migro aray 4. produced my best harvest yet.
@zackaird7541
@zackaird7541 6 ай бұрын
i just bought mars hydro 2x2 kit and most of the stuff needed to grow and the light is a TS1000 LED. will be growing radishes cause i'm a new grower. its been a dream of mine to have my own indoor garden. :D
@Oheeeoh
@Oheeeoh 6 ай бұрын
I got an Atreum Hydra 320 on your recommendation a little over 2 years ago this light has been awesome. Thanks Migro for putting out great videos.
@PeterKKraus
@PeterKKraus 6 ай бұрын
I have one too.
@PhantomPain74
@PhantomPain74 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Buddy 🙏❤️
@dion8962
@dion8962 6 ай бұрын
Im using the AC Infinity Evo3 in my 2x4 and it kicks donkey balls. Plants love it.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
Cool. The Atreum is hangin' in there still. 👍
@Spiderdan-59
@Spiderdan-59 6 ай бұрын
I have the vipraspectra xs1500 pro and the maxibright daylight 200w in a 4x4 homebox tent, I also have the lumatec 100w supplementary bar!
@petercsigo3314
@petercsigo3314 6 ай бұрын
I remember a few years back. You recommended the SP 3000 from Mars Hydro. Now, looking back, it was a great choice for sure. In terms of yield, let's just say a lot of Skittles, lol.
@vurtch
@vurtch 6 ай бұрын
I have been running the sp3000 for 3 yrs 20 on 4 off. Highly recommend. Average dried harvest of 20 oz 3-4 autos in dwc . In a 2.3 x 4.6 x 6.5 spiderfarmer tent
@gygaxx69
@gygaxx69 6 ай бұрын
i split my array 8 into 2 array 4's only running one 2x4 tent atm but i love these lights
@albertingersoll6844
@albertingersoll6844 6 ай бұрын
I wish the new mars hydro fc 4000 was included in this a better light all the way around production quality than any of these I think. I love your podcast . Thank you for sharing so much valuable info !
@jeffsmith8065
@jeffsmith8065 Ай бұрын
I just got a FC4000 Evo and it's the brightest light I ever had, I made a mistake and looked at it and it gave me a bad headache, that never happened to me. Even when you stand next it you can feel the intensity
@rotnbazturd7569
@rotnbazturd7569 5 ай бұрын
3 Mars Hydro SP3000 in a 6' X 4' enclosure, on my 3rd year. Probably only need 2 as I can't turn the dimmers more than 60% or I get light burn/bleaching even at 24 - 30 inches from canopy. Had the first one in a 2 X 4 tent and honestly it was way more light than needed. From what I have experienced the SP3000 can light a 4 x 4 space. Got them on sale for $239 a piece can't be happier as they out grow the 1600 watts HPS I was using with like 10% of the heat and half the wattage.
@prof.puggle1631
@prof.puggle1631 6 ай бұрын
Your light looks good, mate
@KickYouInTheThroat
@KickYouInTheThroat 6 ай бұрын
I was disappointed not to see the XS2500 PRO on the list, but the list seems a little shorter than usual this time.
@timturk1899
@timturk1899 6 ай бұрын
Better title, "200W-400W", lol. The MIGRO ARAY 4 looks like the favorite, once again. Thanks Shane!
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 5 ай бұрын
Shane seems so 'honest' that I'm trying one of his 250 W ones - Waiting for it to be delivered at moment.
@dabonemachinist
@dabonemachinist 3 ай бұрын
Why does it seem like the favorite? Honest question because I don't understand your metrics used to base your claim on.
@roywarriner8441
@roywarriner8441 6 ай бұрын
ViparSpectra's XS2500 is better than the P2000 for only a couple bucks more, you gave a good review of the XS1500.
@bradg1226
@bradg1226 6 ай бұрын
Way better haha
@miketurenne7204
@miketurenne7204 6 ай бұрын
I have the xs2500 and it's fantastic and definitely better it's not even close
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
They do have a xs pro 3000 too! I use & love my viparspectra xs pro & KS 3000
@PointBlankw00t
@PointBlankw00t 6 ай бұрын
On the xs2500 can you move the 2 sections closer together, or are they fixed apart?
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 5 ай бұрын
@@PointBlankw00t fixed
@the_JTowny
@the_JTowny 5 ай бұрын
Had the SP for 3 years. Not missed a beat. Still measures the same output at the same distance. I was expecting some roll off. Never happened. I'd get another.
@Guiltank
@Guiltank 6 күн бұрын
Because i love flexibility i went for two Viparspectra xs 1t500 pro. I combine them with an external Controller. So i am able to dim them via bluetooth from zero to hundred percent. and i can simulate sundown ein sunrise as well.
@zumbaladin
@zumbaladin 6 ай бұрын
I love my 4x2, so discreet and perfect for 3 decent sized plants+dehumidifier (around 430g/grow). If I needed a new fixture for my 4x2 I'd probably buy two Viparspectra XS1500 Pro (2x155 Watt) as I find very useful the possibility to raise the power (some Sativas express themselves better with more light intensity) and I like the fact that with power decreasing over the years I'd still have plenty of what the plants need in 3-4 years. And if I had the money I'd set up a second 4x2 with Migro Aray 4, its very efficient power consumption is astounding ( all the people who own one are very happy with it) and the price is so competitive. I'd love to see an Aray 4+ with 320 Watt (as in one of your discussions with Dr. Bruce Bugbee he mentioned "hemp" could take a lot more light intensity than other plants and that is where the ballgame seemed to go: the possibility to experiment with more intensity).
@roywarriner8441
@roywarriner8441 6 ай бұрын
I have an Aray 4+red in one 4×2 and a Aray 4 Pro in another. No need to replace them but if I did I would go with the XS 2500 rather than two XS 1500's. It's basically two 1500's with a spacer between them. I think the driver can be mounted outside the tent. They were on sale on Amazon in the new year, it's over now but still a good price for those lights.
@exshenanigan2333
@exshenanigan2333 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking about the same after watching Shaun’s and DrMJCoco’s reviews. I was completely set on lm301h evo diodes but at XS1500 Pro’s price point it was hard to beat. XS2500 PRO was a little more than 2 XS1500 PROs on Amazon so I think going with 2 1500 PROs may make more sense. If something goes wrong mid flower you still have light until you can figure something out if you’re running 2 1500s but if 2500 goes bad you’re down to grocery store bulbs for at least a couple of days (considering most people are not hoarding grow lights :))
@teej7577
@teej7577 22 күн бұрын
OK.. I'll say it...If Just about every grow light is Using the Samsung Diodes..Do they not become slightly Ordinary and well Overated??..It's the Amount of Diodes..the Placement the Spectrum and Design that makes the light...And that's without all the other Variables that's in A Grow...The XS1500 PRO was a Gamechanger and still is...Most people wouldn't know a Bridgelux from a Samsung..let alone A Samsung H from a Samsung L...Led Companies are making sales based on people like yourself Becoming Sheep
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 5 ай бұрын
I'm trying one of Migro's own lights - a 250W as a tester on Veg... Waiting for delivery now. Will be interesting to see..
@calebp31
@calebp31 6 ай бұрын
Just came across your reviews love it! I’m in market for a new light for a 4x4 are you going to be testing results for one soon? I’m between viparspectra ks model and mammoths mint light and SP new model? What’s your opinion on those? I don’t see a lot of reviews on mammoths new wavelength light
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Have you started to use the Samsung 301h diodes in your lights?
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Hey Shane, I'm wondering if your aware of the viparspectra xs pro 2500 & 3000? I'd love to see you revise this episode w/ those included. To be clear idk if there is some mix up in the retail dept. Viparspectra Rep did tell me they're different.
@user-dk4mq4om7k
@user-dk4mq4om7k 6 ай бұрын
Hi Shane. Might I make a recommendation for your upcoming 4x4 video(s)? Try to differentiate between lights with maximum outputs that require added co2 and lights which don’t require co2. It seems like exceeding 1000 ppfd at max is common but the average tent grower probably doesn’t need anything over 1000, maybe more like 900 max. Just a thought. I really appreciate your great content. Keep up the good work.
@user-dk4mq4om7k
@user-dk4mq4om7k 6 ай бұрын
One other quick thought. The wattage consumed at various operating percentages would be really helpful too. For example, what wattage would be consumed if a light was dimmed? Would the calculation always be total wattage subtract the dimming percent? 500 watts run at 50% = 250 watts? Is that how it always works or do other factors change the number?
@BigSlick1075
@BigSlick1075 6 ай бұрын
I would love for you to test the OpticLED Slim 320s in a 2x4. It's the light that I have and I like it, but I wanna know how well it tests
@mikeinnj4424
@mikeinnj4424 6 ай бұрын
I was surprised you didn’t include the medic grow mini sun 320 on your list. Also, would you consider the 500 too extreme for a 4x2?
@alexm4567
@alexm4567 6 ай бұрын
Aray 4 looking good. 😊
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 5 ай бұрын
That's good to hear as I bought one as a 'tester' for veg after metal halide.
@trontron-ed2qr
@trontron-ed2qr 6 ай бұрын
shane please review the adjusta-watt retro led 720w
@GrowEnuffWithMuff
@GrowEnuffWithMuff 5 ай бұрын
Have you heard on tmlapy 500 or aglex m400 on the fence about which one to get
@ohmimprovement5767
@ohmimprovement5767 6 ай бұрын
The spiderfarmers not co2 only. It allows you to dial back a little on power and gives amazing canopy coverage. IMHO that's the way to go!! I have the se-7000 in my 4x4. I started out with it in my 5x5 but I fill the canopy corner to corner and I want adequate par levels throughout the canopy or its kinda counterproductive.
@imppen
@imppen 6 ай бұрын
Looks like you've tested the older SF2000 here? The newest one has better spread AFAIK and Samsungs newest EVO leds. Would be interesting to see this light in comparison.
@TheGreenGrower618
@TheGreenGrower618 6 ай бұрын
I've been running the g4500 in a 2x4 for about a year and have absolutely no complaints. It's coverage and power is unbeatable. It's literally wall to wall 1200ppfd on 100%. My yields and quality couldn't be much better. I just setup a new ac Infinity 3x3 with their controller and ventilation system and I think I'm going to go with the g5000 for it. It's pricey but just as powerful at the g4500 in a 2x4. The viparspectra 3x3 light looks good too but it's 180 watts less than the g5000 and I really want to maximize the yield in my space.
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
What is the "G" series/ brand?
@TheGreenGrower618
@TheGreenGrower618 6 ай бұрын
@@josephspezia3509 spider farmer
@enragedwookie7863
@enragedwookie7863 6 ай бұрын
I had two se5000s in a 4x8 it was pretty good but after Migro’s review of the G8600 I upgraded and keep them dialed up to no higher than 80% ever not having to run them at 100% really reduces wear and tear Spider farmer gear is pretty good for being considered “cheap” by some of my friends who only use chilLED or black dog but I smashed their numbers consistently and consecutively using what they call Walmart grow lights but it’s honestly it’s ultimately the driver and not the car imo lol Oh and I use one the se5000s now to veg clones and moms and it’s never ever been over 50% in the 4x4 veg tent and it almost works too good for that application having to top clones 8-10 times in a 30-40 day veg cycle they get really crowded too almost counter productive thinking about using 2x4s and a half sheet of plywood to double my space to make a bottom and top compartment in the 4x4 efficient use of space
@shanedupree420
@shanedupree420 6 ай бұрын
Think I’ll be getting the 2x4 migro light. Evo lights don’t have the blue spectrum I want for veg. Boards are too hot. Ac infinity is less power, and less coverage for more money. Migro will even link together. I’m sold lol , thanks Shane. Hopefully you throw in some slapZ with those lights
@stevemuller82muller65
@stevemuller82muller65 6 ай бұрын
Check out the MARS Hydro FC 4000. I like the migro lights but they take ALOT of clearance above for the way they hang by the cords🧐
@__Ben__84
@__Ben__84 5 ай бұрын
I noticed your title caps at 'up to 300 Watts' even though the top LED exceeds 400 Watts. Wouldn't '250 to 400 Watts' better reflect the range of products featured? I understand titling can be tricky, but this adjustment might improve clarity and accuracy for your viewers. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your next video!"
@gygaxx69
@gygaxx69 6 ай бұрын
also where do i get that hoodie?
@YahsonShaul
@YahsonShaul 5 ай бұрын
Shane, can you boost the power draw on the Migro Aray 4 to 320 watts?! You would now have the best 2x4 light on the market.
@user-dk4mq4om7k
@user-dk4mq4om7k 6 ай бұрын
I’m confused about the usable PPF. Is this the same as average PPFD of the fixture?
@racerx3669
@racerx3669 6 ай бұрын
I think two viparspectra xs1500 pros nine inches apart would be better. They show great par maps for this configuration in the manual. It’s comm8n to see the light go for 75 dollars shipped. After sales, coupons, and promos that is. That’s $150-200 max for the two. And 300 watts ain’t bad.
@psylocyn
@psylocyn 6 ай бұрын
At the moment I’m running (in my 2x4) 2 groplanner 150 watt and a spider farmer 100 watt. I get great yields but it’s hot as hell in the tent. I’ll be buying your 2x4 fixture as soon as I get permission from my wife. Maybe I should help one of the lights stop working 🤔
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Run your light at 220 & move your ballast out of the grow area.
@cuf4
@cuf4 22 күн бұрын
I have a question, I have a 100w lumatek bar, I'm not sure whether to buy another 100w bar or a migro aray4. my grow is 4x2
@Burgerklauer
@Burgerklauer 6 ай бұрын
did you test the SF2000 or the SF2000 EVO? Great comparison
@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT 6 ай бұрын
I tested the SF2000, not the EVO version. I think the EVO is only just out now.
@dampbutthole3025
@dampbutthole3025 6 ай бұрын
can you plssss do a california lightworks bar style LED fixture??? thanks! feel like alot of people dont give them credit...but for customer service they are deff in the top 5 you actually get to talk to someone that is from the US and isnt foreign... on the same lvl as hlg as in customer service id say
@HighGradeTexan
@HighGradeTexan 6 ай бұрын
Good luck getting them to donate one to test.
@prasinosmeouro
@prasinosmeouro 6 ай бұрын
What about the new ViparSpectra 2023 Updated P2000 200W..waiting for a review!!
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Better off with the xs pro 3000 Far better quality.
@joemores6196
@joemores6196 4 ай бұрын
no ac infinity? interesting/////// havent covered there new stuff either
@PhillyJuggalo
@PhillyJuggalo 6 ай бұрын
I do find it funny that in the three test for best lights this year especially when it come to budget and quality not one list had any of the AC Infinity lights including their newest and best Ionframe series (commercial grade tent lights) which is an absolutely amazing light for the price especially when most other companies tend to double the price that AC Infinity has for the same equivalent lights. Honestly it’s the best light I’ve personally ever owned and still use to this day, mines for a 4x4 but there are other sizes. Hope all is well Shane and hope you have an amazing upcoming month, Namaste.
@tthtonekid
@tthtonekid 6 ай бұрын
It isn't very efficient and puts out a ton of heat along with the light. Just look at the par maps they release themselves. You gotta bake the center of your tent to get sufficient light to the sides and corners.
@stangcobra592
@stangcobra592 6 ай бұрын
Atreum 320 and the FC4000 have a higher ratio of red which makes them great for flower. AC EVO is a Good piece too.
@PhillyJuggalo
@PhillyJuggalo 6 ай бұрын
@@tthtonekid actually it doesn’t put out a lot of heat, the light I’m talking about you can remove the driver from the back and on top of that the driver it’s not heating my room up since I have a small clip fan (less than $20) running on low on it and never had any heat issue, you can also lower heat in a grow tent using humidity which I do and my tent has never gone over 77 degrees Fahrenheit, you can also open tent vents to help over heating or grow in in colder months to naturally counteract it. I’m sorry if you have over heating issues but if you don’t have thing’s completely balanced out then yes you’ll get overheating naturally and on and you’re supposed to put it at lower levels then other lights because remember it’s in the description it’s a Commercial Grade meaning extremely powerful and intense not only that remember there’s IR LEDS in there too which naturally create a bunch of heat lol. Shane and Bruce Bugbee have both explained and showed in experiments all of this but it’s quite basic knowledge. Oh and also take into fact if you grow in colder months your house heater will also be constantly adding heat to your house and room and me personally that still hasn’t raised my grow tent heat from 77 degrees Fahrenheit with a humidifier constantly keeping it at a 1.3 kpa VPD level (for veg stage). My plants have absolutely loved the light and I’ve never had any burning issues either. Honestly I’ve never heard of anyone else other than you have heat issues with the light and I mean absolutely no disrespect by that, but out of hundreds of reviews I’ve never heard of that issue happening. Oh and btw every company that has removable drivers even directly states if your having heat issues place the driver outside the tent which I have since day 1 and just so you know I have a pretty basic setup too: tent, two clip fans for inside the tent, 1 clip fan covering the driver, my Ionframe, humidifier and an in-line fan place outside my tent as well with a basic fabric pot setup lol. I truly wish you luck on your next grow and if I misunderstood what you ment then I apologize I’m responding to how it sounds to me. Have a great upcoming week, Namaste. Oh and one last thing it is highly efficient even running with Samsung LM301H EVO diodes the most efficient diodes on the market literally lol.
@PhillyJuggalo
@PhillyJuggalo 6 ай бұрын
@@stangcobra592 maybe so but density is a bit higher than most other company’s when it comes to AC EVO. Of course not disrespecting other companies just from proof from growers that use a lot of different companies lighting and even in their opinions it’s made end results denser.
@tthtonekid
@tthtonekid 6 ай бұрын
@PhillyJuggalo bruh just using the most efficient diodes doesn't make your light the most efficient. That's why migros lights put a lot of others to shame using old Samsung diodes. Just look at the coverage uniformity posted by ac infinity for the evo 4 for example. 1400 in the center to 682 on the edges. This disparity gets even worse the closer you get to the canopy. Not saying it's a bad light but that's why it's not on here.
@hutch0025
@hutch0025 6 ай бұрын
xs3000 pro hands down the best
@Boobear83
@Boobear83 5 ай бұрын
Why does nobody seem to test, review or use vivosun? I’m new to growing and am wondering if it’s a trade secret that they are a ripoff or something as I’m looking to upgrade and really get into more indoor growing. I have a 4x8 tent and only two vs1000 lights I could afford at the time. Thanks for any advice.
@AtomicHighJinx
@AtomicHighJinx 3 ай бұрын
Kind X420 for the win
@Langenholz
@Langenholz 6 ай бұрын
Aren't the PAR maps difficult to compare when the hanging height varies between different models? Or am I missing something?
@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT 6 ай бұрын
The reason hanging heights are different is because every grow light will have its own optimum hanging height. Then you can compare the optimum PAR map for each grow light.
@artimusclydefrog
@artimusclydefrog 3 ай бұрын
why didnt you include the GLS progrow 320? from what I can tell by spectrum/efficiency/PPFD output GLS are still putting out the best lights in the market
@BlackGoku42
@BlackGoku42 5 ай бұрын
Why the viparspectra p2000 and not rhe xs2000?
@Just___me_
@Just___me_ 6 ай бұрын
Why doesn't the total 3 year cost equal the purchase price plus the 3 year elec. cost ?
@lonerandy
@lonerandy 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the Migro Array works with the Vivosun controller?
@sokafx1043
@sokafx1043 6 ай бұрын
i just purchase the mars hydro fc 4000 evo 320w it too sounds good for 4x2
@stangcobra592
@stangcobra592 6 ай бұрын
Where did you get it? They're stuck overseas and delayed from Mars and their vendors🤔
@stangcobra592
@stangcobra592 6 ай бұрын
By the way YES it's a stellar 4x2 light and would be high on this list and will be included for sure next year after Shane gets one to test
@sokafx1043
@sokafx1043 6 ай бұрын
I’ve got it from a eu site to get it there too on hold but for the 30 January
@seanm.9391
@seanm.9391 Ай бұрын
SP3000's on their 4th year and still crushing it. Get a light with a good spread and fill that 2x4 with a scrog full of tops.
@melangkoh4184
@melangkoh4184 6 ай бұрын
Shane, i think its not fair that some of these lights are still judged by the old ParSpectrum, like the HLG 2.51 umol, while the newer ones are measured in epar. The HLG probably has more like 2.65 now. Same goes for most of the others. It makes them look worse when compared to Lights that have been tested recently.
@iBOW2no1
@iBOW2no1 6 ай бұрын
Check out GML lights.... Best par maps in the game period!!!
@jaredhertaus287
@jaredhertaus287 5 ай бұрын
Would you pick the sp3000 or the fc4000. Im struggling to decide need a light for both flower and veg and mars makes a kit for both
@PizzaJesus
@PizzaJesus 4 ай бұрын
Id honestly say depends on budget but seeing as how your already weighing the fc 4000 evo I would lean in its direction, its more efficient and has better coverage
@StayRec
@StayRec 3 ай бұрын
Can you do 3x2?
@richnault2866
@richnault2866 6 ай бұрын
are there any discount codes available for MIgro lights?
@HighGradeTexan
@HighGradeTexan 5 ай бұрын
Good question !
@ustakalfa33
@ustakalfa33 Ай бұрын
I have watched all of your videos all the time and I supported you. What I have to admit that I don't trust you and your measurements because some setups are measured 30 cm hanging distance and other of these 45 cm. Is there any logical side to compare two lights with different hanging distance ?
@AffinityPhoto
@AffinityPhoto Ай бұрын
VIPARSPECTRA xs2500 pro is 250W which falls into this review category. It’s the only light I’ve seen with even lighting.
@ahoyskid
@ahoyskid 6 ай бұрын
I have an SF1000 and SF2000 in my 2*4. The perfect size for stealth grows. No need for any bigger if growing DTW in Coco. 👌 Excellent results with Shogun Coco nutrients. All thanks to DrCoco
@CaspersGarden
@CaspersGarden 6 ай бұрын
I'm geting a 2x2 from Ac infinity it comes with a 100w. Will that be enough or should I bumb it up a few watts? I was think a 200w atleast or maybe just add in the ion beams for additional lighting?
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Use 2 lights above & ion strip in corners. 2 footprints are better than 1!! Check out Jorge Cervantes Medical Growers Bible.
@CaspersGarden
@CaspersGarden 6 ай бұрын
@@josephspezia3509 do I double up the 100w? Or find a set with 2 ment for the 2x2-2x4? I'll definitely get the ion bars
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 5 ай бұрын
@@CaspersGarden I don't understand your question
@joeymusacchio9816
@joeymusacchio9816 6 ай бұрын
I run the G4500 at 60-70% during flower. Intense coverage.
@paulie6446
@paulie6446 6 ай бұрын
Is that without co2?Cheers✌️
@joeymusacchio9816
@joeymusacchio9816 6 ай бұрын
@@paulie6446 yup, can still pull 500-600 dry from two or three well trained but tall, W/ 50+ coca~colas on a double layer SCROG, without any CO2. For that you need to plan your space for the OSC fans well. Unfortunately it takes time for trees to grow that big. 2 months of veg.
@paulie6446
@paulie6446 6 ай бұрын
@@joeymusacchio9816 thanks man - my grow depends a lot on fan placement and use due to 'restrictions' lol.✌️
@chaddamp2894
@chaddamp2894 6 ай бұрын
Hi,just purchased Secret Jardin Cosmorrow 40w Led Blooming Cosmo LED Grow Light Flowering system,is this a recomended lighting system for me to grow from seed for my allotment vegetables? kindest regards Paul
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
For "medicinal" in veg, you do not want to use that light by itself. Your plants will be leggy, stretched out and thin. Unless your pruning & heavily training
@Darko1324
@Darko1324 3 ай бұрын
Only run Hlg and love em.. got the 350r Diablo.. literally never has to go above 50% most of the time. And there's 6 trees underneath. Love it.
@brandonbackus3713
@brandonbackus3713 6 ай бұрын
Also off topic but I have a question.so if the sun puts off about 2000 par in the summer but are lights we keep at let's say 1500 par in flower why use the co2?if plants can withstand such high par outside without etra co2 why need it with a lower par?I asking cuz I really feel it's b.s. because I don't use co2 and both of my nabors do and my plants come out just as good,there word not mine..
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Co2 needs to be ran correctly 4 it to work. Holler at me 4 further discussion
@marcusparnell2403
@marcusparnell2403 6 ай бұрын
Any idea where the AC Infinity IONFRAME EVO3 fits into this table?
@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT 6 ай бұрын
They have not sent any EVO lights for testing yet..
@marcusparnell2403
@marcusparnell2403 6 ай бұрын
thanks for getting back to me. This light does look like it might upset the table for efficiency but would be very interested to see your PPF output table on this one.@@MIGROLIGHT
@stangcobra592
@stangcobra592 6 ай бұрын
@@marcusparnell2403 you should be interested in the spectrum too, the FC4000 has it beat.
@stevemuller82muller65
@stevemuller82muller65 6 ай бұрын
Well done Shane 🥳 can't wait for you to do a analysis of the new MARS Hydro fc 4000. I think it's probably one of the best values on the market today for a 2×4. I got one on the Black Friday sale for 271$ 🇺🇲😎🤙 regularly 320$🥳 . I'd consider it a budget light but has really high performance with the Samsung 301H EVO diodes 🧐
@SamiLiukkonen358
@SamiLiukkonen358 6 ай бұрын
Greit deel,!!!...nice that you wait right Time bye it,!!.👍🌞🤯
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Only fce Don't waste your time & money on reg fc. Viparspectra has better specs & longer cords. Fyi
@fbjr63
@fbjr63 6 ай бұрын
When you're done rest, buy the Best Grandmaster LEDs Borg! The GML team members are Extremely bright...
@mr.marmars
@mr.marmars 6 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@user-lw7xg3xk1p
@user-lw7xg3xk1p 5 ай бұрын
I think it would be nice to see the Medicgrow 500 watt Minisun-2 compared. I have never used a better light in a 2 x 4 tent. It is the best bang for your buck. It costs less and performs better than every light on this list. The 320 watt version doesn’t even belong in this class. Maybe because it blows the doors off the Migro…
@prof.puggle1631
@prof.puggle1631 6 ай бұрын
No AC Infinity in the line up?
@shanedupree420
@shanedupree420 6 ай бұрын
They won’t send him one cuz they know it won’t beat his lights. Output, cost, efficiency, even spread, heat… overall migro beats ac at least on 2x4 for veg rooms.
@mattrobinson6594
@mattrobinson6594 6 ай бұрын
HLG lights have never left me down
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
Too expensive They're nice lights, but.... Other brands are very close to comparable.
@mattrobinson6594
@mattrobinson6594 6 ай бұрын
@@josephspezia3509 after 15+ yrs of using LED lights i've found you get what you pay for...the bad part is the LED technology keeps getting better and makes our current lights outdated too fast. (good part is weight and flavor go up with new technology)
@EricCheetoh
@EricCheetoh 4 ай бұрын
Why does everyone ignore the viparspectra v2000 or v1000??...its always the p2000 or p1000
@Andi_M.
@Andi_M. 6 ай бұрын
It's a shame that you tested the 5 year? old SP 3000 from Mars Hydro instead of the new FC 4000 EVO.
@petercsigo3314
@petercsigo3314 6 ай бұрын
Not at all the SP 3000 it's been delivering for me a top performance with a very good yield.
@DaSilva995
@DaSilva995 6 ай бұрын
It would also take it out of testing range
@Kelsdoggy
@Kelsdoggy 4 ай бұрын
The Migro is infinitely the better deal here
@wastedwages8229
@wastedwages8229 6 ай бұрын
Chilled Growcraft x6 mini is still king
@bobroberts9306
@bobroberts9306 6 ай бұрын
I needed to upgrade my grow light for a 4 x 2 tent and was seriously considering ChilLed's x3 mini. But then, Ac Infinity came out with their ion frame bar lights. They have Samsung LM301 H EVO diodes and are much cheaper than ChilLed- so I bought the EVO3 for my 4 x 2 grow tent. Big mistake, although a nice light, it didn't properly provide enough light intensity around the perimeter of the grow area. I'm now interested in the new 2024 ChilLed x3 330w light. For my current new grow, I have added AC's 16" supplemental lights in hope of much better results. After this grows results, I'll decide on whether to keep the EVO3 or go with a ChilLed Growcraft light. Honestly, if AC's light was 20" x 40" and over 300w, it possibly could be a great 4 x 2 light. Anyway, 420 sales will probably be happening when my current grow finishes and I'll seriously consider purchasing a ChilLed growcraft light. Any advice and thoughts concerning ChilLed's light would be appreciated. Thanks
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
Too much $ anyway.
@christophergomez2584
@christophergomez2584 28 күн бұрын
Mars hydro fc 4000
@teej7577
@teej7577 22 күн бұрын
That's My First choice atm...if I can get one for a good price in Australia and isn't last years stock..Spewing
@christittle1131
@christittle1131 6 ай бұрын
What about the vipar spectra 4000. I know vipar list it as a 5 x3 but that was 4-5years ago it fits in a 4x2 easily. I mean it’s only 39” x11” if it was in a 4x2 it be a foot narrow and almost a foot shorter. Vipar messed up putting a 5x3 for it cause it is a 4x2 KILLER!!!! U put hlg 350r in and hlg says it’s for 3x5 why not understand how vipar spectra xs4000 isn’t the light for a 4x2
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
It's only advertising, boasting what it can do. Your right for operating it in that space. I believe the xs pro 3000 has taken that space. They run cooler and drivers are detached w long cords. I use & love my viparspectra
@robinradema1
@robinradema1 6 ай бұрын
I've been running the Mars hydro sp3000 for about 3 years now. Great lights. Only bad thing about it seems to be the dimmers. I've replaced mine on both my lights.
@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know
@petercsigo3314
@petercsigo3314 6 ай бұрын
I've been using the same light and there's nothing wrong with the dimmers.
@timpage5021
@timpage5021 6 ай бұрын
Yea after a couple years the dimmer gets weird . At full tilt it’s not actually 100% anymore . I turn the dimmer off and it’s at full wack. But yea after a couple years the dimmer knob is useless . Still crushes a 2x4 better than most anything pulling the same wattages
@Eskomgrow
@Eskomgrow 6 ай бұрын
You should make bigger LED lights ..... I'm from South Africa and use to watch your videos until 2023 they got over here i got the 4bar and its 👌🔥💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@MrE1981
@MrE1981 6 ай бұрын
He does make bigger lights, 4x4 and 5x5 bar lights. Browse the channel or website.
@tthtonekid
@tthtonekid 6 ай бұрын
The 5x5 is a monster in my 4x4 never used it past 80% lol
@havougmbh
@havougmbh 6 ай бұрын
Best 300W to 800W led grow light planned?
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
U don't need high wattage anymore. Newer lights are far more effective. If u want higher power....rdj bounds is the brand. For a cheaper yet strong light. I've heard they get warm, though. Idk if they can be ran at 220 for cooler operating temps.
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
I personally love viparspectra & ac infinity If Shane incorporated samsung 301h, that would be IT
@jimmy_Ross
@jimmy_Ross 6 ай бұрын
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE YOUR LIGHT YOU SELL WILL NEVER GO FOR HALF THE PRICE SO THERE OUT BUT FIXTURES LIKE THE VIPARSPECTRA I KNOW YOU CAN GET THOSE FOR HALF THE PRICE SOME TIMES SO HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS HALF THE PRICE COMPARED TO THE OTHER AT FULL PRICE
@damienharrison1
@damienharrison1 6 ай бұрын
The Array puts out almost 50% more light than the Viparspectra, does that answer your question?
@jimmy_Ross
@jimmy_Ross 6 ай бұрын
so i can buy 2 viparspectra lights for the same price as 1 ARRAY wright lol so how does the ARRAY put out twice as much light when clearly if you used 2 viparspectra its better then then 1 ARRAY and it cost the same so how dumb are you @@damienharrison1
@MrE1981
@MrE1981 6 ай бұрын
He'll not answer you if you write in all CAPS, like a r#tard.
@josephspezia3509
@josephspezia3509 6 ай бұрын
​@@damienharrison1what models are you comparing? I believe the xs pro & KS series are comparable. Pretty sure they're cheaper too.
@ibafy6751
@ibafy6751 6 ай бұрын
Where is SANlight? Way better than any of the brands above
@IcantonBs
@IcantonBs 5 ай бұрын
What do you Like better about them? Light spectrum?
@jimmy_Ross
@jimmy_Ross 6 ай бұрын
YEAH BUT WHAT IF YOU PAY HALF THE PRICE FOR THESE LIGHTS LOL THEN HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT LOL I DONT CARE WHAT YOU GET FOR FULL PRICES I WNT TO KNOW HOW GOOD THESE ARE FOR HALF TO PRICE FOR THE GROW LIGHTS WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME THEN
@brianwilson8198
@brianwilson8198 6 ай бұрын
Do some maths.
@user-ee3zo7jl8t
@user-ee3zo7jl8t 6 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see that your channel is doing horrible ripping me off for a light telling me that it’s coming in the mail and I’m a subscriber and all this bullshit about a year and a half ago just for me to get ripped off $150 and I know it was you because you used your picture just like off the KZbin nobody can even get that
@O.C.Gardener
@O.C.Gardener 6 ай бұрын
Disappointed you didn't test the most popular brand sold, AC Infinity. Particularly with their new IONFRAME.